| this is why i only watch original shows like hulaing babies |
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| Of course there is but I think it's pretty hard to not follow a basic/linear storyline. It's not even limited to anime, even movies and series follow the same formula. It's really a matter of presentation these days rather than originality to be honest |
| definitely feels like there's some saturation of particular genres like isekai. I don't mind ideas that aren't original, as long as it's presented in an entertaining and engaging way. |
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| I think slice of life school anime are oversaturated, but in terms of originality new stories are extremely rare so to a certain extent yeah. |
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| Hmm is there a anime like Dororo and The Promised Neverland maybe The Promised Neverland is abit like tokyo ghoul and attack on titan but they seem pretty origal to me even tho Dororo is based on a realy old manga ..Im new here so I dont really have that much knowlage about anime but just wanted to write my ideas |
| Dororo and Kaguya-sama are both airing this season, so no, I'm happy that anime's got plenty of originality left. |
romagia said: this is why i only watch original shows like hulaing babies This unironically. More people should check this show before going into tired rants about how anime nowadays are all the same shit. Like, it's not a valid complaint if you choose to ignore the shows that are blatantly original and aesthetically daring. |
Dante012 said: Yes, I think so too. Of course we're talking of proportions here, no need to come here and say "look at this anime or that one, it's original", of course some animes are original. But in general, it is not rare to find animes with almost the exact same synopsis as others. The problem isn't new though ; it's been this way for a few years now. Well, the issue is when those original shows are either on purpose or unknowingly missed out to sustain the generalization, which happens with these threads a lot of the time. Focusing on just the most popular stuff is a huge bias against perceiving the creativity of the industry as a whole, because things are usually popular because they include elements fans are familiar with and that have proved their effectiveness before. |
| Originality is a farce. Always has been. Always will be. Everything and everything already has been done, or will be done eventually. The best thing art can do is acknowledge this, and try to add on top of what already exist with their own ideas. I'm a cynical guy who thinks anime was better in the 80'-90's because it had more "original" ideas, but that did not inherently beget quality, there's plenty of dumb ovas with original ideas that flopped hard because they just weren't executed well. I don't think we should focus on if something is "original", but good, and why that is so. |
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| I don't think this only applies to anime. Most media really is some sort of copy of something else in one way or another |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| Idk, Virtual-san definitely brings some new stuff to the table this season. Kemurikusa has an original setting and worldbuilding and seems pretty different from most anime I've seen. I'm watching Gurazeni from last season right now as well, and it's definitely unique as far as sports anime go. I've seen a ton of sports anime but none of them had Gurazeni's laid back slice of life approach. So yeah, it's mostly a matter of what shows you pick to watch and whether you're able to recognize what makes a show unique instead of only ever focusing on similarities to other shows. For example you can see Gurazeni as just another sports anime and therefore lacking originality, but that would be missing the point and not doing the show justice. In the end you often have the choice of focusing on similarities or focusing on what makes sets a show apart. Both elements are usually present in the majority of shows. It's up to you what your perspective is gonna be. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| That is because most shows aren't original. However, every season there are multiple gems that are a breath of fresh air, and feel original. |
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Hime-han said: Do you feel like most anime now days, have no original storylines or ideas? Everything just seems to be a mirror of already made ones, they only seem to "borrow" concepts and ideas, from the ones which have been already out there for a while. I certainly feel like, with most anime's which have a similar storyline, they all seem the same, making you go "oh I feel like I've seen/ heard something like that before". Do you believe there is still space, for an original idea to emerge one day? No and execution is a much higher priority to me than originality |
Ponds667 said: definitely feels like there's some saturation of particular genres like isekai. I don't mind ideas that aren't original, as long as it's presented in an entertaining and engaging way. ^ agreed! While originality is good, I find execution to be more important. And while a lot of anime nowadays isn't original, neither has it been for a while now. Every season there's always been a few "original" ideas amongst the plethora of bad-not really great animes (don't let your pessimism ruin anime for you), even right now. Dororo, Kaguya-sama, promised neverland, s2 mob psycho, and boogiepop are a few titles I could name. |
| Anime is no less original than cinema, video games, or any other entertainment medium. Everything draws inspiration from something else; it's all derivative to varying degrees. Even Star Wars, which was considered unique and groundbreaking at the time, follows a very basic storytelling structure that was already established years before. |
| [opinion] What do people actually mean when they say "nothing is original anymore"? It seems that the comment usually means "I feel like I've read this plot premise/synopsis before". Except all that really means is "I've seen a lot of anime and thus it doesn't feel fresh to me anymore", and says nothing about the originality of the plot direction and other details, such as the specific combination of plot details and setting elements. I think anime is a lot more enjoyable if you're watching it not merely to see what the plot is going to end up being, but watching it to take in a journey. Even if you've been on a journey before, every time it's a little different. (Note: I'm not a stickler for "originality", so my perspective may be different.) |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| Some basic plot points are always going to be unoriginal because there are only so many basic plot points to choose from, and that applies to pretty much every medium. However I think that we are still getting enough shows with plenty of unique plot points. It's really a matter of perception whether one chooses to look at what's similar or what's different. There are also many show that have very few original points, but each season there are at least 3-5 shows that I think are original enough, and that's enough to choose from imo. For the rest of them one just has to be ready for some originality to be lost. But that's also not necessarily a bad thing. If anything, while highly unoriginal show will never be great, it will rarely be horrible either unless author or studio make some serious mistakes, as there are plenty of shows to learn from to make it right, while it's much easier to make original plot wrong. Both originality and execution are equally important for me. As long as it's executed well, even unoriginal plot can be appealing, and original plot can be bad if not executed right, in the end. |
MrZawa said: Well, yeah, pretty much the core idea of almost every plot type is going to be "generic" and "unoriginal".Some basic plot points are always going to be unoriginal because there are only so many basic plot points to choose from, and that applies to pretty much every medium. Like, two people fall in love, but stuff happens that makes getting together difficult for them, that's a basic plot premise for romance. There's an infinite number of things one can do with that -- starting with at least three different possible resolutions for the romance itself (they get together, they just break up, or something R&J-esque), and then there's the setting, the pacing, the choices of character tropes and personality traits, the actual obstacles (social? economic? political? physical?), the story type (drama? comedy?), and much much more. But if all we're looking at is the very very basics, then yeah, sure, everything's gonna be been-there-done-that. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| I’d say it’s easier to find an original anime than an original MAL thread to be honest. Really though, everything has been done one way or another, it literally is impossible to find something that isn’t using a few tropes of some sort. That doesn’t make it unoriginal though, you can utilize tropes and grab inspiration from other things and still keep it original in it’s own way. Let’s take Haki from One Piece, chakra from naruto, ki from dbz, and nen from HxH. These are all obviously inspired from the same concepts, but are each individual in their own ways. Mureum being a copy paste of Cell is the only thing I’ve seen so far that actually upset me from a lack of originality standpoint. |
| Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
| Things always seem to be less original than they used to be, because your scope of experienced has increased so you now realise how things are more like older things. People born in the 70s will think 80s things were more original, people born in the 90s will think 2000s stuff was more original. etc. There are shows and films that will doing familiar thigns in a different way or approach things from a difference angle. But eventually you realise there is not that much that is or can be truly original. Or if it is it's because it was a really bad idea. Originally is often mis-judged and over-rated. Being good is far more important than being truly original. The Battle Angel Alita movie does a far better job of telling the story than the Anime OAV, even though it's not original. The Island by Michael Bay does a far better job of telling the story of 'Parts The Clonus Horror' which it was illegally based on. Because it had a vastly bigger budget so we got more explosions and car chases. But it's not original. Some things break the mold, but they still came out of a mold. They just improved it. |
| You're watching wrong shows. That's all |
| Thats how its always been. Its nothing new to take ideas from other shows |
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Loonitick said: Ponds667 said: definitely feels like there's some saturation of particular genres like isekai. I don't mind ideas that aren't original, as long as it's presented in an entertaining and engaging way. ^ agreed! While originality is good, I find execution to be more important. And while a lot of anime nowadays isn't original, neither has it been for a while now. Every season there's always been a few "original" ideas amongst the plethora of bad-not really great animes (don't let your pessimism ruin anime for you), even right now. Dororo, Kaguya-sama, promised neverland, s2 mob psycho, and boogiepop are a few titles I could name. yup. A show can be the most original thing but if it's done wrong it's still bad :P |
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