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Mar 8, 2019 8:49 AM
#1
What the fuck. Isn't it weird seeing girls get destroyed by tentacles or is it just me. |
Mar 8, 2019 8:59 AM
#2
I'm eating cereal and for some reason decided this thread should be okay for said activity, I am no longer eating cereal. |
Mar 8, 2019 9:06 AM
#3
Mar 8, 2019 9:09 AM
#4
I'm with Catalano here, I only like normal stuff like Night Shift Nurses. |
Mar 8, 2019 9:11 AM
#5
I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Mar 8, 2019 9:19 AM
#6
Why the fuck would someone watch normal hentai anyway? I mean if I wanna see normal sex I go ahead and watch normal porn (jav to be more specific). I'm a big shota x mother fan btw. |
Mar 8, 2019 9:21 AM
#7
I genuinly hope NTR get's banned worldwide. Just saying. |
Mar 8, 2019 9:22 AM
#8
Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> |
The dearer you hold a memory the more painful it becomes. |
Mar 8, 2019 9:25 AM
#9
The real question is, why don't you, OP? I mean, who even has 3D fetishes anymore? What is this, 2002? Genuinely, OP, get some help and then watch Kuroinu. |
Mar 8, 2019 9:28 AM
#10
Mar 8, 2019 9:28 AM
#11
Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. |
Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
Mar 8, 2019 9:34 AM
#12
Mar 8, 2019 9:47 AM
#13
Hey it's not the worst thing. Half of the Tari Tari doujins literally involves a horse fucking Sawa |
List of romance anime with actual romance in them --------------------------------------------------------------------------- List of romance Manga with actual romance in them 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
Mar 8, 2019 10:47 AM
#14
Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. bruh, MAL isn't the best site to fight against loli lovers |
Mar 8, 2019 11:21 AM
#15
TheProblemIsYou bro You should bow to the greatness' of tentacle-rape-NTR hentai goad |
Mar 8, 2019 11:30 AM
#16
Mar 8, 2019 11:35 AM
#17
Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. |
Mar 8, 2019 11:36 AM
#18
This is pretty funny haha I watched a hentai but I am too cowardly to put it on my list LOL Yes I know. |
Mar 8, 2019 11:37 AM
#19
Mar 8, 2019 11:40 AM
#20
Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) |
Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
Mar 8, 2019 11:41 AM
#21
Do you have one? It should be called -HENTAIDEATH XD HAHAHA |
Mar 8, 2019 11:42 AM
#22
Mar 8, 2019 11:42 AM
#23
This is completely wrong. Just ignore it! If you want a boring answer is because of little mutations that happen on our brains when it's been developing that connects sexual desires with things that are not supposed to be sexual, like a part of our brain that recognizes hands and foots and heads are too close to the part of sexual desire and sometimes the part of it that recognizes foot gets attached to the part of sexual desire and voila, here's your foot fetish completed! |
cross3773Mar 8, 2019 3:03 PM
Mar 8, 2019 11:42 AM
#24
Mar 8, 2019 11:44 AM
#25
Mar 8, 2019 11:46 AM
#26
Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. |
Mar 8, 2019 11:47 AM
#27
Mar 8, 2019 11:52 AM
#28
Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. |
Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
Mar 8, 2019 11:54 AM
#29
thevagus said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. bruh, MAL isn't the best site to fight against loli lovers I wouldn’t say I’m fighting it, just telling them they’re disturbed in the head. Admitting a sexual attraction to children is one, pedophilism by definition, and two a sure fire way to get shamed. Or assaulted if they said it irl, but they realize that which is why they talk about it on forums like this |
Hokage_JasonMar 8, 2019 12:01 PM
Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
Mar 8, 2019 11:58 AM
#30
Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. |
Mar 8, 2019 12:01 PM
#31
cevat24 said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. I mean... I’d agree it’s better but I don’t agree it’s okay. Feeding an interest could potentially lead to a stronger desire in that interest. Someone who gets off to loli hentai could eventually get tired of it and crave the real thing. The issue lies in the mindset of being attracted to children. |
Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
Mar 8, 2019 12:08 PM
#32
Capitalism_Hater said: Ecchi is not the same as hentai. Otherwise things like American Pie should be classified as porn as well, and that doesn't happen either, or does it?Milk_is_Special said: I don't because I don't watch hentai. those pictures... mmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
Mar 8, 2019 12:36 PM
#33
Hokage_Jason said: cevat24 said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. I mean... I’d agree it’s better but I don’t agree it’s okay. Feeding an interest could potentially lead to a stronger desire in that interest. Someone who gets off to loli hentai could eventually get tired of it and crave the real thing. The issue lies in the mindset of being attracted to children. And that's where you are wrong. This isn't a question that can be approached with feelings, because they lead to wrong assumptions to be made due to attempt to protect, which in fact does the opposite. If we look at it logically: First nothing would indicate that to be the case, and second, even common sense will tell you that person is much more likely to act on some desire if there is no acceptable outlet to alleviate it than if there is one. And since said attraction always did exist, as far as we can tell, some people will always have it, regardless if they read/watch loli hentai or not. But it offers victim-less way to satisfy such desires, and one that's also legal in some countries. Which brings me to another point, if one were to make a decision to choose between lolicon hentai, a victim-less way, and real child porn that has victims, assuming that law and society considers them the same, but latter is much more realistic, and therefore, let's say it plainly, more arousing choice, it's obvious choice to go for the latter, if we disregard the morals of person in question. Common sense says that's definitely not okay, since it in a way condones abuse. So it's in fact in well-being of children themselves for lolicon hentai to exist. Therefore lolicon stuff being legal, and socially acceptable enough has chance to decrease market for the real thing, as well as making such desires easier to control, and decrease the amount of actual victims. Therefore your narrative is both false and indirectly dangerous. Another point is that many lolis are so ambiguous in proportions that even people that have no interest in real kinds, but let's say prefer tiny girls, can still easily get attracted to them. In fact most lolicons fall into this category, including me, only fraction have attraction also toward real kids. It's also proven scientific fact that most men do get attracted to females that just reached puberty, due to them having greatest fertility, and due to those ambiguous proportions most men would find some lolis attractive. Some people of course have more attraction than others, but either way I fail to see how said attraction in itself is wrong, it's not something that people can affected. It either exist or it doesn't. I'm sure many people with such attraction would quite willingly choose to abandon it if it was possible. Shaming and making them out to be enemies only makes matters worse. Only actions that one takes upon it can be right or wrong, and I find people tend to have huge issue seeing this point. And again, when it comes to actions, lolicon hentai certainly has much more potential to prevent people with such attractions taking the wrong actions than to encourage them. |
Mar 8, 2019 12:37 PM
#34
Good thing I prefer NTR, or just gender-bender/trap/shoutacon... I feel blessed I'm normal |
Mar 8, 2019 12:45 PM
#35
MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: cevat24 said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. I mean... I’d agree it’s better but I don’t agree it’s okay. Feeding an interest could potentially lead to a stronger desire in that interest. Someone who gets off to loli hentai could eventually get tired of it and crave the real thing. The issue lies in the mindset of being attracted to children. And that's where you are wrong. This isn't a question that can be approached with feelings, because they lead to wrong assumptions to be made due to attempt to protect, which in fact does the opposite. If we look at it logically: First nothing would indicate that to be the case, and second, even common sense will tell you that person is much more likely to act on some desire if there is no acceptable outlet to alleviate it than if there is one. And since said attraction always did exist, as far as we can tell, some people will always have it, regardless if they read/watch loli hentai or not. But it offers victim-less way to satisfy such desires, and one that's also legal in some countries. Which brings me to another point, if one were to make a decision to choose between lolicon hentai, a victim-less way, and real child porn that has victims, assuming that law and society considers them the same, but latter is much more realistic, and therefore, let's say it plainly, more arousing choice, it's obvious choice to go for the latter, if we disregard the morals of person in question. Common sense says that's definitely not okay, since it in a way condones abuse. So it's in fact in well-being of children themselves for lolicon hentai to exist. Therefore lolicon stuff being legal, and socially acceptable enough has chance to decrease market for the real thing, as well as making such desires easier to control, and decrease the amount of actual victims. Therefore your narrative is both false and indirectly dangerous. Another point is that many lolis are so ambiguous in proportions that even people that have no interest in real kinds, but let's say prefer tiny girls, can still easily get attracted to them. In fact most lolicons fall into this category, including me, only fraction have attraction also toward real kids. It's also proven scientific fact that most men do get attracted to females that just reached puberty, due to them having greatest fertility, and due to those ambiguous proportions most men would find some lolis attractive. Some people of course have more attraction than others, but either way I fail to see how said attraction in itself is wrong, it's not something that people can affected. It either exist or it doesn't. I'm sure many people with such attraction would quite willingly choose to abandon it if it was possible. Shaming and making them out to be enemies only makes matters worse. Only actions that one takes upon it can be right or wrong, and I find people tend to have huge issue seeing this point. And again, when it comes to actions, lolicon hentai certainly has much more potential to prevent people with such attractions taking the wrong actions than to encourage them. 1. No lolicon hentai is not being made to “protect children” that’s freaking absurd, it’s made because it generates profit and because there’s people who are into it, simple as that. 2. In some cases sure it could alleviate a persons desires, but if you say it’s impossible for it to increase their desires you don’t understand psychology enough to be having this discussion. That is literally half the cycle of addiction, you pick up some habit, fetish, interest, drug, whatever it may be, and over time the relief provided may diminish, causing people to seek alternate methods. It’s not even arguable, it’s a fact. |
Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
Mar 8, 2019 12:48 PM
#36
your first mistake was perceiving them as living girls. Hentai girls are art, that is all. If anything, you should be disgusted by the idea rather than actually seeing it animated! you can be disgusted watching ntr though |
LoonitickMar 8, 2019 12:51 PM
Mar 8, 2019 12:52 PM
#37
@Hokage_Jason Then explain why Japan's rape rate is extremely low. Pedos there definitely watch/read loli hentai. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate |
Mar 8, 2019 12:54 PM
#38
Milk_is_Special said: Capitalism_Hater said: Ecchi is not the same as hentai. Otherwise things like American Pie should be classified as porn as well, and that doesn't happen either, or does it?Milk_is_Special said: I don't because I don't watch hentai. those pictures... mmmmmmmmmmmmmm I know the difference between ecchi and hentai. I just said I liked the pictures LoL |
Mar 8, 2019 12:55 PM
#39
Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: cevat24 said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. I mean... I’d agree it’s better but I don’t agree it’s okay. Feeding an interest could potentially lead to a stronger desire in that interest. Someone who gets off to loli hentai could eventually get tired of it and crave the real thing. The issue lies in the mindset of being attracted to children. And that's where you are wrong. This isn't a question that can be approached with feelings, because they lead to wrong assumptions to be made due to attempt to protect, which in fact does the opposite. If we look at it logically: First nothing would indicate that to be the case, and second, even common sense will tell you that person is much more likely to act on some desire if there is no acceptable outlet to alleviate it than if there is one. And since said attraction always did exist, as far as we can tell, some people will always have it, regardless if they read/watch loli hentai or not. But it offers victim-less way to satisfy such desires, and one that's also legal in some countries. Which brings me to another point, if one were to make a decision to choose between lolicon hentai, a victim-less way, and real child porn that has victims, assuming that law and society considers them the same, but latter is much more realistic, and therefore, let's say it plainly, more arousing choice, it's obvious choice to go for the latter, if we disregard the morals of person in question. Common sense says that's definitely not okay, since it in a way condones abuse. So it's in fact in well-being of children themselves for lolicon hentai to exist. Therefore lolicon stuff being legal, and socially acceptable enough has chance to decrease market for the real thing, as well as making such desires easier to control, and decrease the amount of actual victims. Therefore your narrative is both false and indirectly dangerous. Another point is that many lolis are so ambiguous in proportions that even people that have no interest in real kinds, but let's say prefer tiny girls, can still easily get attracted to them. In fact most lolicons fall into this category, including me, only fraction have attraction also toward real kids. It's also proven scientific fact that most men do get attracted to females that just reached puberty, due to them having greatest fertility, and due to those ambiguous proportions most men would find some lolis attractive. Some people of course have more attraction than others, but either way I fail to see how said attraction in itself is wrong, it's not something that people can affected. It either exist or it doesn't. I'm sure many people with such attraction would quite willingly choose to abandon it if it was possible. Shaming and making them out to be enemies only makes matters worse. Only actions that one takes upon it can be right or wrong, and I find people tend to have huge issue seeing this point. And again, when it comes to actions, lolicon hentai certainly has much more potential to prevent people with such attractions taking the wrong actions than to encourage them. 1. No lolicon hentai is not being made to “protect children” that’s freaking absurd, it’s made because it generates profit and because there’s people who are into it, simple as that. 2. In some cases sure it could alleviate a persons desires, but if you say it’s impossible for it to increase their desires you don’t understand psychology enough to be having this discussion. That is literally half the cycle of addiction, you pick up some habit, fetish, interest, drug, whatever it may be, and over time the relief provided may diminish, causing people to seek alternate methods. It’s not even arguable, it’s a fact. 1. I never claimed that to be the case, it's obvious there are economic reasons. Which just proves that there is enough people with interest in it, and some of them also have more real interests that might be, and likely are in more cases than not, kept in check due to it. It's indirect result of it, I never claimed otherwise. But it does exist that much must be admitted and showed to people because they label these things as dangerous way too fast without thinking it through. 2. I would say that, although in some cases it could happen, those people would need to have serious self-control issues to begin with, in which case they would likely do it anyway, maybe a bit later, but they would. People with normal self-control will be more likely than not positively affected. It's same argument as with video games causing more violent crimes, etc., which has been proven wrong every time. |
Mar 8, 2019 12:58 PM
#40
Capitalism_Hater said: Glad you like them, although I'm gonna change them soon.Milk_is_Special said: Capitalism_Hater said: Milk_is_Special said: I don't because I don't watch hentai. those pictures... mmmmmmmmmmmmmm I know the difference between ecchi and hentai. I just said I liked the pictures LoL |
Mar 8, 2019 1:03 PM
#41
MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: cevat24 said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. I mean... I’d agree it’s better but I don’t agree it’s okay. Feeding an interest could potentially lead to a stronger desire in that interest. Someone who gets off to loli hentai could eventually get tired of it and crave the real thing. The issue lies in the mindset of being attracted to children. And that's where you are wrong. This isn't a question that can be approached with feelings, because they lead to wrong assumptions to be made due to attempt to protect, which in fact does the opposite. If we look at it logically: First nothing would indicate that to be the case, and second, even common sense will tell you that person is much more likely to act on some desire if there is no acceptable outlet to alleviate it than if there is one. And since said attraction always did exist, as far as we can tell, some people will always have it, regardless if they read/watch loli hentai or not. But it offers victim-less way to satisfy such desires, and one that's also legal in some countries. Which brings me to another point, if one were to make a decision to choose between lolicon hentai, a victim-less way, and real child porn that has victims, assuming that law and society considers them the same, but latter is much more realistic, and therefore, let's say it plainly, more arousing choice, it's obvious choice to go for the latter, if we disregard the morals of person in question. Common sense says that's definitely not okay, since it in a way condones abuse. So it's in fact in well-being of children themselves for lolicon hentai to exist. Therefore lolicon stuff being legal, and socially acceptable enough has chance to decrease market for the real thing, as well as making such desires easier to control, and decrease the amount of actual victims. Therefore your narrative is both false and indirectly dangerous. Another point is that many lolis are so ambiguous in proportions that even people that have no interest in real kinds, but let's say prefer tiny girls, can still easily get attracted to them. In fact most lolicons fall into this category, including me, only fraction have attraction also toward real kids. It's also proven scientific fact that most men do get attracted to females that just reached puberty, due to them having greatest fertility, and due to those ambiguous proportions most men would find some lolis attractive. Some people of course have more attraction than others, but either way I fail to see how said attraction in itself is wrong, it's not something that people can affected. It either exist or it doesn't. I'm sure many people with such attraction would quite willingly choose to abandon it if it was possible. Shaming and making them out to be enemies only makes matters worse. Only actions that one takes upon it can be right or wrong, and I find people tend to have huge issue seeing this point. And again, when it comes to actions, lolicon hentai certainly has much more potential to prevent people with such attractions taking the wrong actions than to encourage them. 1. No lolicon hentai is not being made to “protect children” that’s freaking absurd, it’s made because it generates profit and because there’s people who are into it, simple as that. 2. In some cases sure it could alleviate a persons desires, but if you say it’s impossible for it to increase their desires you don’t understand psychology enough to be having this discussion. That is literally half the cycle of addiction, you pick up some habit, fetish, interest, drug, whatever it may be, and over time the relief provided may diminish, causing people to seek alternate methods. It’s not even arguable, it’s a fact. 1. I never claimed that to be the case, it's obvious there are economic reasons, which just proves that there is enough people with interest in it, and some of them also have more real interests that might be, and likely are in more cases than not, kept in check due to it. It's indirect result of it, I never claimed otherwise, but it does exist that much must be admitted and showed to people because they label these things as dangerous way too fast without thinking it through. 2. I would say that, although in some cases it could happen, those people would need to have serious self-control issues to begin with, in which case they would likely do it anyway, maybe a bit later, but they would. People with normal self-control will be more likely than not positively affected. It's same argument as with video games causing more violent crimes, etc., which has been proven wrong every time. Alrighty we agree for the most part then. I even agree it’s a mindset that can’t be helped, it’s not like people can chose what their brain/body reacts to, and it’s not like I’m saying people should die or be shamed for simply having that attraction. But where we probably disagree is I think it’s wrong for people to openly talk about or indulge their interest in lolis and try defending it. “It’s not real so it doesn’t make me interested in children” is flawed logic, we all know it’s onviously prepubescent girl being depicted, and that’s what you’re in to. A straight dude isn’t gonna to jerk it to male x male hentai and say “dude I’m not jerking it to guys they’re just animated I’m straight” |
Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
Mar 8, 2019 1:09 PM
#42
Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: cevat24 said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. I mean... I’d agree it’s better but I don’t agree it’s okay. Feeding an interest could potentially lead to a stronger desire in that interest. Someone who gets off to loli hentai could eventually get tired of it and crave the real thing. The issue lies in the mindset of being attracted to children. And that's where you are wrong. This isn't a question that can be approached with feelings, because they lead to wrong assumptions to be made due to attempt to protect, which in fact does the opposite. If we look at it logically: First nothing would indicate that to be the case, and second, even common sense will tell you that person is much more likely to act on some desire if there is no acceptable outlet to alleviate it than if there is one. And since said attraction always did exist, as far as we can tell, some people will always have it, regardless if they read/watch loli hentai or not. But it offers victim-less way to satisfy such desires, and one that's also legal in some countries. Which brings me to another point, if one were to make a decision to choose between lolicon hentai, a victim-less way, and real child porn that has victims, assuming that law and society considers them the same, but latter is much more realistic, and therefore, let's say it plainly, more arousing choice, it's obvious choice to go for the latter, if we disregard the morals of person in question. Common sense says that's definitely not okay, since it in a way condones abuse. So it's in fact in well-being of children themselves for lolicon hentai to exist. Therefore lolicon stuff being legal, and socially acceptable enough has chance to decrease market for the real thing, as well as making such desires easier to control, and decrease the amount of actual victims. Therefore your narrative is both false and indirectly dangerous. Another point is that many lolis are so ambiguous in proportions that even people that have no interest in real kinds, but let's say prefer tiny girls, can still easily get attracted to them. In fact most lolicons fall into this category, including me, only fraction have attraction also toward real kids. It's also proven scientific fact that most men do get attracted to females that just reached puberty, due to them having greatest fertility, and due to those ambiguous proportions most men would find some lolis attractive. Some people of course have more attraction than others, but either way I fail to see how said attraction in itself is wrong, it's not something that people can affected. It either exist or it doesn't. I'm sure many people with such attraction would quite willingly choose to abandon it if it was possible. Shaming and making them out to be enemies only makes matters worse. Only actions that one takes upon it can be right or wrong, and I find people tend to have huge issue seeing this point. And again, when it comes to actions, lolicon hentai certainly has much more potential to prevent people with such attractions taking the wrong actions than to encourage them. 1. No lolicon hentai is not being made to “protect children” that’s freaking absurd, it’s made because it generates profit and because there’s people who are into it, simple as that. 2. In some cases sure it could alleviate a persons desires, but if you say it’s impossible for it to increase their desires you don’t understand psychology enough to be having this discussion. That is literally half the cycle of addiction, you pick up some habit, fetish, interest, drug, whatever it may be, and over time the relief provided may diminish, causing people to seek alternate methods. It’s not even arguable, it’s a fact. 1. I never claimed that to be the case, it's obvious there are economic reasons, which just proves that there is enough people with interest in it, and some of them also have more real interests that might be, and likely are in more cases than not, kept in check due to it. It's indirect result of it, I never claimed otherwise, but it does exist that much must be admitted and showed to people because they label these things as dangerous way too fast without thinking it through. 2. I would say that, although in some cases it could happen, those people would need to have serious self-control issues to begin with, in which case they would likely do it anyway, maybe a bit later, but they would. People with normal self-control will be more likely than not positively affected. It's same argument as with video games causing more violent crimes, etc., which has been proven wrong every time. Alrighty we agree for the most part then. I even agree it’s a mindset that can’t be helped, it’s not like people can chose what their brain/body reacts to, and it’s not like I’m saying people should die or be shamed for simply having that attraction. But where we probably disagree is I think it’s wrong for people to openly talk about or indulge their interest in lolis and try defending it. “It’s not real so it doesn’t make me interested in children” is flawed logic, we all know it’s onviously prepubescent girl being depicted, and that’s what you’re in to. A straight dude isn’t gonna to jerk it to male x male hentai and say “dude I’m not jerking it to guys they’re just animated I’m straight” First, there are many types of lolis. Some of them may be in their early teens, and as I said, most people have interest in that, even if many may not be willing to admit it. Some of them may be even centuries old, since it's 2D, everything is possible. Therefore their age has no consequence on the arousal, because it's just a number on the paper. It's mostly about body proportions, and those are in many case ambiguous enough that the loli in question could be 10 or also 14. And they all look the same. Is it okay to get aroused by 800 years old loli and not by 10 year old loli that looks the same? If age is only factor, that would be the result, and that's just silly. Also I do not see how defending something that one likes, and it causes no harm to anyone, should be wrong. Things that cause harm should be wrong, everything else should be everyone's personal matter. Also it is true that many people may like lolis, and might not like real kids. I believe I explained reasons for that enough. 2D heavily inaccurate depiction of child =/= real child by far. |
Mar 8, 2019 1:15 PM
#43
Come on dude it’s just hentai. Just because I fap to a girl getting raped in her sleep doesn’t mean I’m gonna do it irl... |
Mar 8, 2019 1:23 PM
#44
MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: cevat24 said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. I mean... I’d agree it’s better but I don’t agree it’s okay. Feeding an interest could potentially lead to a stronger desire in that interest. Someone who gets off to loli hentai could eventually get tired of it and crave the real thing. The issue lies in the mindset of being attracted to children. And that's where you are wrong. This isn't a question that can be approached with feelings, because they lead to wrong assumptions to be made due to attempt to protect, which in fact does the opposite. If we look at it logically: First nothing would indicate that to be the case, and second, even common sense will tell you that person is much more likely to act on some desire if there is no acceptable outlet to alleviate it than if there is one. And since said attraction always did exist, as far as we can tell, some people will always have it, regardless if they read/watch loli hentai or not. But it offers victim-less way to satisfy such desires, and one that's also legal in some countries. Which brings me to another point, if one were to make a decision to choose between lolicon hentai, a victim-less way, and real child porn that has victims, assuming that law and society considers them the same, but latter is much more realistic, and therefore, let's say it plainly, more arousing choice, it's obvious choice to go for the latter, if we disregard the morals of person in question. Common sense says that's definitely not okay, since it in a way condones abuse. So it's in fact in well-being of children themselves for lolicon hentai to exist. Therefore lolicon stuff being legal, and socially acceptable enough has chance to decrease market for the real thing, as well as making such desires easier to control, and decrease the amount of actual victims. Therefore your narrative is both false and indirectly dangerous. Another point is that many lolis are so ambiguous in proportions that even people that have no interest in real kinds, but let's say prefer tiny girls, can still easily get attracted to them. In fact most lolicons fall into this category, including me, only fraction have attraction also toward real kids. It's also proven scientific fact that most men do get attracted to females that just reached puberty, due to them having greatest fertility, and due to those ambiguous proportions most men would find some lolis attractive. Some people of course have more attraction than others, but either way I fail to see how said attraction in itself is wrong, it's not something that people can affected. It either exist or it doesn't. I'm sure many people with such attraction would quite willingly choose to abandon it if it was possible. Shaming and making them out to be enemies only makes matters worse. Only actions that one takes upon it can be right or wrong, and I find people tend to have huge issue seeing this point. And again, when it comes to actions, lolicon hentai certainly has much more potential to prevent people with such attractions taking the wrong actions than to encourage them. 1. No lolicon hentai is not being made to “protect children” that’s freaking absurd, it’s made because it generates profit and because there’s people who are into it, simple as that. 2. In some cases sure it could alleviate a persons desires, but if you say it’s impossible for it to increase their desires you don’t understand psychology enough to be having this discussion. That is literally half the cycle of addiction, you pick up some habit, fetish, interest, drug, whatever it may be, and over time the relief provided may diminish, causing people to seek alternate methods. It’s not even arguable, it’s a fact. 1. I never claimed that to be the case, it's obvious there are economic reasons, which just proves that there is enough people with interest in it, and some of them also have more real interests that might be, and likely are in more cases than not, kept in check due to it. It's indirect result of it, I never claimed otherwise, but it does exist that much must be admitted and showed to people because they label these things as dangerous way too fast without thinking it through. 2. I would say that, although in some cases it could happen, those people would need to have serious self-control issues to begin with, in which case they would likely do it anyway, maybe a bit later, but they would. People with normal self-control will be more likely than not positively affected. It's same argument as with video games causing more violent crimes, etc., which has been proven wrong every time. Alrighty we agree for the most part then. I even agree it’s a mindset that can’t be helped, it’s not like people can chose what their brain/body reacts to, and it’s not like I’m saying people should die or be shamed for simply having that attraction. But where we probably disagree is I think it’s wrong for people to openly talk about or indulge their interest in lolis and try defending it. “It’s not real so it doesn’t make me interested in children” is flawed logic, we all know it’s onviously prepubescent girl being depicted, and that’s what you’re in to. A straight dude isn’t gonna to jerk it to male x male hentai and say “dude I’m not jerking it to guys they’re just animated I’m straight” First, there are many types of lolis. Some of them may be in their early teens, and as I said, most people have interest in that, even if many may not be willing to admit it. Some of them may be even centuries old, since it's 2D, everything is possible. Therefore their age has no consequence on the arousal, because it's just a number on the paper. It's mostly about body proportions, and those are in many case ambiguous enough that the loli in question could be 10 or also 14. And they all look the same. Is it okay to get aroused by 800 years old loli and not by 10 year old loli that looks the same? If age is only factor, that would be the result, and that's just silly. Also I do not see how defending something that one likes, and it causes no harm to anyone, should be wrong. Things that cause harm should be wrong, everything else should be everyone's personal matter. Also it is true that many people may like lolis, and might not like real kids. I believe I explained reasons for that enough. 2D heavily inaccurate depiction of child =/= real child by far. Well loli is a slang term so it leaves a bit of room for subjectivity, but 9/10 definitions of it you read are “a very young child, usually prepubescent” so I don’t consider someone 14+ to be a loli (not saying 14 is an acceptable age to be sexualizing either), and I especially don’t consider adults who look young (Taiga from Toradora) to be a loli. At least as far as my usage of the word goes. That’s all I have to say though, like I said we aren’t going to agree on if it’s right or wrong lol. |
Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
Mar 8, 2019 1:42 PM
#45
Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: cevat24 said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. I mean... I’d agree it’s better but I don’t agree it’s okay. Feeding an interest could potentially lead to a stronger desire in that interest. Someone who gets off to loli hentai could eventually get tired of it and crave the real thing. The issue lies in the mindset of being attracted to children. And that's where you are wrong. This isn't a question that can be approached with feelings, because they lead to wrong assumptions to be made due to attempt to protect, which in fact does the opposite. If we look at it logically: First nothing would indicate that to be the case, and second, even common sense will tell you that person is much more likely to act on some desire if there is no acceptable outlet to alleviate it than if there is one. And since said attraction always did exist, as far as we can tell, some people will always have it, regardless if they read/watch loli hentai or not. But it offers victim-less way to satisfy such desires, and one that's also legal in some countries. Which brings me to another point, if one were to make a decision to choose between lolicon hentai, a victim-less way, and real child porn that has victims, assuming that law and society considers them the same, but latter is much more realistic, and therefore, let's say it plainly, more arousing choice, it's obvious choice to go for the latter, if we disregard the morals of person in question. Common sense says that's definitely not okay, since it in a way condones abuse. So it's in fact in well-being of children themselves for lolicon hentai to exist. Therefore lolicon stuff being legal, and socially acceptable enough has chance to decrease market for the real thing, as well as making such desires easier to control, and decrease the amount of actual victims. Therefore your narrative is both false and indirectly dangerous. Another point is that many lolis are so ambiguous in proportions that even people that have no interest in real kinds, but let's say prefer tiny girls, can still easily get attracted to them. In fact most lolicons fall into this category, including me, only fraction have attraction also toward real kids. It's also proven scientific fact that most men do get attracted to females that just reached puberty, due to them having greatest fertility, and due to those ambiguous proportions most men would find some lolis attractive. Some people of course have more attraction than others, but either way I fail to see how said attraction in itself is wrong, it's not something that people can affected. It either exist or it doesn't. I'm sure many people with such attraction would quite willingly choose to abandon it if it was possible. Shaming and making them out to be enemies only makes matters worse. Only actions that one takes upon it can be right or wrong, and I find people tend to have huge issue seeing this point. And again, when it comes to actions, lolicon hentai certainly has much more potential to prevent people with such attractions taking the wrong actions than to encourage them. 1. No lolicon hentai is not being made to “protect children” that’s freaking absurd, it’s made because it generates profit and because there’s people who are into it, simple as that. 2. In some cases sure it could alleviate a persons desires, but if you say it’s impossible for it to increase their desires you don’t understand psychology enough to be having this discussion. That is literally half the cycle of addiction, you pick up some habit, fetish, interest, drug, whatever it may be, and over time the relief provided may diminish, causing people to seek alternate methods. It’s not even arguable, it’s a fact. 1. I never claimed that to be the case, it's obvious there are economic reasons, which just proves that there is enough people with interest in it, and some of them also have more real interests that might be, and likely are in more cases than not, kept in check due to it. It's indirect result of it, I never claimed otherwise, but it does exist that much must be admitted and showed to people because they label these things as dangerous way too fast without thinking it through. 2. I would say that, although in some cases it could happen, those people would need to have serious self-control issues to begin with, in which case they would likely do it anyway, maybe a bit later, but they would. People with normal self-control will be more likely than not positively affected. It's same argument as with video games causing more violent crimes, etc., which has been proven wrong every time. Alrighty we agree for the most part then. I even agree it’s a mindset that can’t be helped, it’s not like people can chose what their brain/body reacts to, and it’s not like I’m saying people should die or be shamed for simply having that attraction. But where we probably disagree is I think it’s wrong for people to openly talk about or indulge their interest in lolis and try defending it. “It’s not real so it doesn’t make me interested in children” is flawed logic, we all know it’s onviously prepubescent girl being depicted, and that’s what you’re in to. A straight dude isn’t gonna to jerk it to male x male hentai and say “dude I’m not jerking it to guys they’re just animated I’m straight” First, there are many types of lolis. Some of them may be in their early teens, and as I said, most people have interest in that, even if many may not be willing to admit it. Some of them may be even centuries old, since it's 2D, everything is possible. Therefore their age has no consequence on the arousal, because it's just a number on the paper. It's mostly about body proportions, and those are in many case ambiguous enough that the loli in question could be 10 or also 14. And they all look the same. Is it okay to get aroused by 800 years old loli and not by 10 year old loli that looks the same? If age is only factor, that would be the result, and that's just silly. Also I do not see how defending something that one likes, and it causes no harm to anyone, should be wrong. Things that cause harm should be wrong, everything else should be everyone's personal matter. Also it is true that many people may like lolis, and might not like real kids. I believe I explained reasons for that enough. 2D heavily inaccurate depiction of child =/= real child by far. Well loli is a slang term so it leaves a bit of room for subjectivity, but 9/10 definitions of it you read are “a very young child, usually prepubescent” so I don’t consider someone 14+ to be a loli (not saying 14 is an acceptable age to be sexualizing either), and I especially don’t consider adults who look young (Taiga from Toradora) to be a loli. At least as far as my usage of the word goes. That’s all I have to say though, like I said we aren’t going to agree on if it’s right or wrong lol. Russian guy, I forget the name, his book was called Lolita. Basically about a guy obsessing over a 12 year old girl and his "codename" for her in his journals and what not was "Lolita". I see your posts a fair bit and I don't always agree with you, but on this one I think you're spot on (I'm talking about all your posts on this thread). No matter how you cut it, getting off to kids is flat out wrong and completely morally reprehensible. There's no defending this. The argument I've seen others making in the thread that "it's just a cartoon" or "the age is ambiguous" or "I'm not hurting anyone" are complete paper arguments. Escalation is common for pretty much any fetish. I mean, I'm a kinkster myself and it wasn't like I met my first girlfriend at a fetish dungeon, although I did meet my last girlfriend at one, because I sought out more of what I was into as time went on. For something fairly innocuous like garden variety kinks it's no big deal because you're dealing with other consenting adults who are aware enough to know what the score is but if you're bringing minors into it, man, it feels fucked up to even be commenting on this shit. This is all going by the hardline definition of "lolita", i.e. prepubescent girl, and one portrayed as such. There's a massive difference between say, a sexually aware 15 year old (and even so, this is a fairly large legal/moral gray area) and a completely naive 12 year old. |
CallMeHootMar 8, 2019 1:49 PM
Mar 8, 2019 1:46 PM
#46
All porn is weird. The shit that pornhub normies fap to grosses me out far more than any alternative hentai kink. |
☆☆☆ "There's a huge difference between one and infinity. However, compared to the difference between existence and non-existence, one and infinite are nearly the same. I am the child destined to become the best witch... no... The greatest Creator in the world...!" -Maria Ushiromiya ☆☆☆ |
Mar 8, 2019 1:46 PM
#47
crosswrm said: If you want a boring answer is because of little mutations that happen on our brains when it's been developing that connects sexual desires with things that are not supposed to be sexual, like a part of our brain that recognizes hands and foots and heads are too close to the part of sexual desire and sometimes the part of it that recognizes foot gets attached to the part of sexual desire and voila, here's your foot fetish completed! That's so far off the mark that I can't even begin to correct you, man. |
Mar 8, 2019 1:49 PM
#48
CallMeHoot said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: cevat24 said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. I mean... I’d agree it’s better but I don’t agree it’s okay. Feeding an interest could potentially lead to a stronger desire in that interest. Someone who gets off to loli hentai could eventually get tired of it and crave the real thing. The issue lies in the mindset of being attracted to children. And that's where you are wrong. This isn't a question that can be approached with feelings, because they lead to wrong assumptions to be made due to attempt to protect, which in fact does the opposite. If we look at it logically: First nothing would indicate that to be the case, and second, even common sense will tell you that person is much more likely to act on some desire if there is no acceptable outlet to alleviate it than if there is one. And since said attraction always did exist, as far as we can tell, some people will always have it, regardless if they read/watch loli hentai or not. But it offers victim-less way to satisfy such desires, and one that's also legal in some countries. Which brings me to another point, if one were to make a decision to choose between lolicon hentai, a victim-less way, and real child porn that has victims, assuming that law and society considers them the same, but latter is much more realistic, and therefore, let's say it plainly, more arousing choice, it's obvious choice to go for the latter, if we disregard the morals of person in question. Common sense says that's definitely not okay, since it in a way condones abuse. So it's in fact in well-being of children themselves for lolicon hentai to exist. Therefore lolicon stuff being legal, and socially acceptable enough has chance to decrease market for the real thing, as well as making such desires easier to control, and decrease the amount of actual victims. Therefore your narrative is both false and indirectly dangerous. Another point is that many lolis are so ambiguous in proportions that even people that have no interest in real kinds, but let's say prefer tiny girls, can still easily get attracted to them. In fact most lolicons fall into this category, including me, only fraction have attraction also toward real kids. It's also proven scientific fact that most men do get attracted to females that just reached puberty, due to them having greatest fertility, and due to those ambiguous proportions most men would find some lolis attractive. Some people of course have more attraction than others, but either way I fail to see how said attraction in itself is wrong, it's not something that people can affected. It either exist or it doesn't. I'm sure many people with such attraction would quite willingly choose to abandon it if it was possible. Shaming and making them out to be enemies only makes matters worse. Only actions that one takes upon it can be right or wrong, and I find people tend to have huge issue seeing this point. And again, when it comes to actions, lolicon hentai certainly has much more potential to prevent people with such attractions taking the wrong actions than to encourage them. 1. No lolicon hentai is not being made to “protect children” that’s freaking absurd, it’s made because it generates profit and because there’s people who are into it, simple as that. 2. In some cases sure it could alleviate a persons desires, but if you say it’s impossible for it to increase their desires you don’t understand psychology enough to be having this discussion. That is literally half the cycle of addiction, you pick up some habit, fetish, interest, drug, whatever it may be, and over time the relief provided may diminish, causing people to seek alternate methods. It’s not even arguable, it’s a fact. 1. I never claimed that to be the case, it's obvious there are economic reasons, which just proves that there is enough people with interest in it, and some of them also have more real interests that might be, and likely are in more cases than not, kept in check due to it. It's indirect result of it, I never claimed otherwise, but it does exist that much must be admitted and showed to people because they label these things as dangerous way too fast without thinking it through. 2. I would say that, although in some cases it could happen, those people would need to have serious self-control issues to begin with, in which case they would likely do it anyway, maybe a bit later, but they would. People with normal self-control will be more likely than not positively affected. It's same argument as with video games causing more violent crimes, etc., which has been proven wrong every time. Alrighty we agree for the most part then. I even agree it’s a mindset that can’t be helped, it’s not like people can chose what their brain/body reacts to, and it’s not like I’m saying people should die or be shamed for simply having that attraction. But where we probably disagree is I think it’s wrong for people to openly talk about or indulge their interest in lolis and try defending it. “It’s not real so it doesn’t make me interested in children” is flawed logic, we all know it’s onviously prepubescent girl being depicted, and that’s what you’re in to. A straight dude isn’t gonna to jerk it to male x male hentai and say “dude I’m not jerking it to guys they’re just animated I’m straight” First, there are many types of lolis. Some of them may be in their early teens, and as I said, most people have interest in that, even if many may not be willing to admit it. Some of them may be even centuries old, since it's 2D, everything is possible. Therefore their age has no consequence on the arousal, because it's just a number on the paper. It's mostly about body proportions, and those are in many case ambiguous enough that the loli in question could be 10 or also 14. And they all look the same. Is it okay to get aroused by 800 years old loli and not by 10 year old loli that looks the same? If age is only factor, that would be the result, and that's just silly. Also I do not see how defending something that one likes, and it causes no harm to anyone, should be wrong. Things that cause harm should be wrong, everything else should be everyone's personal matter. Also it is true that many people may like lolis, and might not like real kids. I believe I explained reasons for that enough. 2D heavily inaccurate depiction of child =/= real child by far. Well loli is a slang term so it leaves a bit of room for subjectivity, but 9/10 definitions of it you read are “a very young child, usually prepubescent” so I don’t consider someone 14+ to be a loli (not saying 14 is an acceptable age to be sexualizing either), and I especially don’t consider adults who look young (Taiga from Toradora) to be a loli. At least as far as my usage of the word goes. That’s all I have to say though, like I said we aren’t going to agree on if it’s right or wrong lol. Russian guy, I forget the name, his book was called Lolita. Basically about a guy obsessing over a 12 year old girl and his "codename" for her in his journals and what not was "Lolita". I see your posts a fair bit and I don't always agree with you, but on this one I think you're spot on (I'm talking about all your posts on this thread). No matter how you cut it, getting off to kids is flat out wrong and completely morally reprehensible. There's no defending this. The argument I've seen others making in the thread that "it's just a cartoon" or "the age is ambiguous" are complete paper arguments. Escalation is common for pretty much any fetish. I mean, I'm a kinkster myself and it wasn't like I met my first girlfriend at a fetish dungeon, although I did meet my last girlfriend at one, because I sought out more of what I was into as time went on. For something fairly innocuous like garden variety kinks it's no big deal because you're dealing with other consenting adults who are aware enough to know what the score is but if you're bringing minors into it, man, it feels fucked up to even be commenting on this shit. This is all going by the hardline definition of "lolita", i.e. prepubescent girl, and one portrayed as such. There's a massive difference between say, a sexually aware 15 year old (and even so, this is a fairly large legal/moral gray area) and a completely naive 12 year old. Shit fam now I’m curious what I’ve posted that you disagree with XD not because I wanna arguebit with you but I’m just curious, maybe I did something out of line and didn’t realize it and if so would like to be made aware of it. Usually the only things I post are my opinions which I acknowledge are just that, only my opinion, and I don’t try presenting them as fact. The only thing I can recollect was shortly after I joined I got into a pretty heated arguement with two dudes over elfen lied, and regrettably I acted a bit immature, but that’s because they tried telling me I was an idiot who didn’t get it XD |
Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
Mar 8, 2019 1:51 PM
#49
CallMeHoot said: crosswrm said: If you want a boring answer is because of little mutations that happen on our brains when it's been developing that connects sexual desires with things that are not supposed to be sexual, like a part of our brain that recognizes hands and foots and heads are too close to the part of sexual desire and sometimes the part of it that recognizes foot gets attached to the part of sexual desire and voila, here's your foot fetish completed! That's so far off the mark that I can't even begin to correct you, man. No, please, feel free to correct me. I do know the foot fetish is correct and based on that I extrapolated to other things. If you don't have the patience to explain to me just link a source though ;) |
Mar 8, 2019 1:57 PM
#50
Hokage_Jason said: CallMeHoot said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: MrZawa said: Hokage_Jason said: cevat24 said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Manyaa_- said: Hokage_Jason said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. VladimirNabokov said: Pullman said: I don't get it either, why can't people just enjoy loli hentai like any normal person would. Because not everyone can have a refined taste in porn :> I don’t watch hentai in general, but Lolis is a far worse fetish than tentacles. It’s not okay getting off to little kids. It's totally fine getting off to 2d kids. I mean, who the fuck am I hurting? Absolutely no one. I can fap to loli hentai and doujins with zero guilt. Also I hate 3d kids. They're annoying. I beg you to go say that in public, prerably around adult males who have daughters, and see what happens to you ; ) Just give me a really good reason WHY I should expose my kinks to random people with daughters? Just why? Even my close friends don't know about my kinks. And they have no reason to. You just said something rarted. No you just don’t want to acknowledge the point. Getting off to kids is wrong, it’s a fetish that would get you beaten irl, for good reason. Even among criminals people attracted to kids are the lowest of the low, child molestors have been beaten to death in prison by fellow inmates. They make those kind of hentai so that irl people don't hurt real kids. It's okay for a pedo to fap to lolis as long as it keeps him away from real girls. I mean... I’d agree it’s better but I don’t agree it’s okay. Feeding an interest could potentially lead to a stronger desire in that interest. Someone who gets off to loli hentai could eventually get tired of it and crave the real thing. The issue lies in the mindset of being attracted to children. And that's where you are wrong. This isn't a question that can be approached with feelings, because they lead to wrong assumptions to be made due to attempt to protect, which in fact does the opposite. If we look at it logically: First nothing would indicate that to be the case, and second, even common sense will tell you that person is much more likely to act on some desire if there is no acceptable outlet to alleviate it than if there is one. And since said attraction always did exist, as far as we can tell, some people will always have it, regardless if they read/watch loli hentai or not. But it offers victim-less way to satisfy such desires, and one that's also legal in some countries. Which brings me to another point, if one were to make a decision to choose between lolicon hentai, a victim-less way, and real child porn that has victims, assuming that law and society considers them the same, but latter is much more realistic, and therefore, let's say it plainly, more arousing choice, it's obvious choice to go for the latter, if we disregard the morals of person in question. Common sense says that's definitely not okay, since it in a way condones abuse. So it's in fact in well-being of children themselves for lolicon hentai to exist. Therefore lolicon stuff being legal, and socially acceptable enough has chance to decrease market for the real thing, as well as making such desires easier to control, and decrease the amount of actual victims. Therefore your narrative is both false and indirectly dangerous. Another point is that many lolis are so ambiguous in proportions that even people that have no interest in real kinds, but let's say prefer tiny girls, can still easily get attracted to them. In fact most lolicons fall into this category, including me, only fraction have attraction also toward real kids. It's also proven scientific fact that most men do get attracted to females that just reached puberty, due to them having greatest fertility, and due to those ambiguous proportions most men would find some lolis attractive. Some people of course have more attraction than others, but either way I fail to see how said attraction in itself is wrong, it's not something that people can affected. It either exist or it doesn't. I'm sure many people with such attraction would quite willingly choose to abandon it if it was possible. Shaming and making them out to be enemies only makes matters worse. Only actions that one takes upon it can be right or wrong, and I find people tend to have huge issue seeing this point. And again, when it comes to actions, lolicon hentai certainly has much more potential to prevent people with such attractions taking the wrong actions than to encourage them. 1. No lolicon hentai is not being made to “protect children” that’s freaking absurd, it’s made because it generates profit and because there’s people who are into it, simple as that. 2. In some cases sure it could alleviate a persons desires, but if you say it’s impossible for it to increase their desires you don’t understand psychology enough to be having this discussion. That is literally half the cycle of addiction, you pick up some habit, fetish, interest, drug, whatever it may be, and over time the relief provided may diminish, causing people to seek alternate methods. It’s not even arguable, it’s a fact. 1. I never claimed that to be the case, it's obvious there are economic reasons, which just proves that there is enough people with interest in it, and some of them also have more real interests that might be, and likely are in more cases than not, kept in check due to it. It's indirect result of it, I never claimed otherwise, but it does exist that much must be admitted and showed to people because they label these things as dangerous way too fast without thinking it through. 2. I would say that, although in some cases it could happen, those people would need to have serious self-control issues to begin with, in which case they would likely do it anyway, maybe a bit later, but they would. People with normal self-control will be more likely than not positively affected. It's same argument as with video games causing more violent crimes, etc., which has been proven wrong every time. Alrighty we agree for the most part then. I even agree it’s a mindset that can’t be helped, it’s not like people can chose what their brain/body reacts to, and it’s not like I’m saying people should die or be shamed for simply having that attraction. But where we probably disagree is I think it’s wrong for people to openly talk about or indulge their interest in lolis and try defending it. “It’s not real so it doesn’t make me interested in children” is flawed logic, we all know it’s onviously prepubescent girl being depicted, and that’s what you’re in to. A straight dude isn’t gonna to jerk it to male x male hentai and say “dude I’m not jerking it to guys they’re just animated I’m straight” First, there are many types of lolis. Some of them may be in their early teens, and as I said, most people have interest in that, even if many may not be willing to admit it. Some of them may be even centuries old, since it's 2D, everything is possible. Therefore their age has no consequence on the arousal, because it's just a number on the paper. It's mostly about body proportions, and those are in many case ambiguous enough that the loli in question could be 10 or also 14. And they all look the same. Is it okay to get aroused by 800 years old loli and not by 10 year old loli that looks the same? If age is only factor, that would be the result, and that's just silly. Also I do not see how defending something that one likes, and it causes no harm to anyone, should be wrong. Things that cause harm should be wrong, everything else should be everyone's personal matter. Also it is true that many people may like lolis, and might not like real kids. I believe I explained reasons for that enough. 2D heavily inaccurate depiction of child =/= real child by far. Well loli is a slang term so it leaves a bit of room for subjectivity, but 9/10 definitions of it you read are “a very young child, usually prepubescent” so I don’t consider someone 14+ to be a loli (not saying 14 is an acceptable age to be sexualizing either), and I especially don’t consider adults who look young (Taiga from Toradora) to be a loli. At least as far as my usage of the word goes. That’s all I have to say though, like I said we aren’t going to agree on if it’s right or wrong lol. Russian guy, I forget the name, his book was called Lolita. Basically about a guy obsessing over a 12 year old girl and his "codename" for her in his journals and what not was "Lolita". I see your posts a fair bit and I don't always agree with you, but on this one I think you're spot on (I'm talking about all your posts on this thread). No matter how you cut it, getting off to kids is flat out wrong and completely morally reprehensible. There's no defending this. The argument I've seen others making in the thread that "it's just a cartoon" or "the age is ambiguous" are complete paper arguments. Escalation is common for pretty much any fetish. I mean, I'm a kinkster myself and it wasn't like I met my first girlfriend at a fetish dungeon, although I did meet my last girlfriend at one, because I sought out more of what I was into as time went on. For something fairly innocuous like garden variety kinks it's no big deal because you're dealing with other consenting adults who are aware enough to know what the score is but if you're bringing minors into it, man, it feels fucked up to even be commenting on this shit. This is all going by the hardline definition of "lolita", i.e. prepubescent girl, and one portrayed as such. There's a massive difference between say, a sexually aware 15 year old (and even so, this is a fairly large legal/moral gray area) and a completely naive 12 year old. Shit fam now I’m curious what I’ve posted that you disagree with XD not because I wanna arguebit with you but I’m just curious, maybe I did something out of line and didn’t realize it and if so would like to be made aware of it. Usually the only things I post are my opinions which I acknowledge are just that, only my opinion, and I don’t try presenting them as fact. The only thing I can recollect was shortly after I joined I got into a pretty heated arguement with two dudes over elfen lied, and regrettably I acted a bit immature, but that’s because they tried telling me I was an idiot who didn’t get it XD Nothing major, brap. Certainly nothing anywhere near out of line :) Truthfully I can't remember for the life of me either so it was probably just a mild difference of opinion. I mean I've read a lot of threads the last couple days and seen ya name crop up in a fair amount so it could have been anything :P On this one I am 100% in agreement though. Shit is wrong and like you said earlier, there's a reason you can't mention it in public because the vast majority of people have a moral compass and stuff to do with kids is not on it. If you tell someone you like being tied up or have a thing for feet no one gives a toss because it isn't a moral issue, it's a purely sexual one. |
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