Kakegurui - Compulsive Gambler -
| I just finished watching all the episodes, and I rate this a 5 at best. It is not thought provoking at all. There is hardly any strategy or any logical analysis involved. In the very first episode, the way in which she reaches the conclusion that Ryouta is the one sending signals is so unrealistic and makes no sense. She claims that Meari wasn't using any visual or audio cues, but literally any of the hand gestures that she was making could have been the signal. She also claims that it was easy to figure out what Ryouta was signaling by observing his demeanor. The anime completely and intentionally misleads you by showing Ryouta acting as if he didn't know what would happen when he was the one who was enabling Meari's cheating. I suppose this was done for two reasons: 1. to add suspense and 2. to ensure that the viewers never guess that Ryouta is the one helping Meari cheat. Either way, it annoyed me. I also don't like how the anime tries to portray all of Yumeko's opponents as some sort of lunatics by having them overly contort their faces. They do this for Yumeko herself as well, but only because she's supposed to be some intimidating gambling freak. Because this is a gambling anime, I'd hold this to the same standards as Akagi. Kakegurui does not compare at all. It's straight up trash compared to Akagi. |
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| Yeah... most people don't really about the minute details care as long as the show covers it up with confident presentation. It's the rule of cool. Say it confidently enough then (as long as the gamble isn't too far-fetched) people will eat it up. I've been rewatching it and it's honestly not terrible as a barebones high school rom-com. The music is great, which goes far pulling you into the admittedly feigned atmosphere. The art looks good enough, it's colorful and the character designs look quite good. Most people haven't even seen Akagi too so it's not like everyone's comparing it as they watch it. If it didn't have likable characters, attractive visuals, thrilling music, and confidently presented (yet overly simplistic) gambles it'd probably have a much lower score. There's just barely glue holding this pile of shit together to make people like it. |
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| Probably the first time I saw a thread complaining overrated for a series which was ranked 1000+. and don't you know the Majority of MAL think 7 as average? thus why Kakegurui's score is actually just par with the standard. Plus the top reviewers for the shows were giving it a low score, So It's quite surprising to see another bash when the show has already finished airing. Anyway, I don't disagree when people said this isn't great anime, it surely lacks of 'cheating' detail as Akagi or Kaiji, but I quite enjoy the over-the-topness and the voice acting. |
| I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die. |
| The art and animation are incredible, it's very visually appealing even though the gambits are absolute shit. The things you pointed out are wrong though. Maeri couldn't signal everyone in the room with some small hand gesture, the visual focus had to be on the other side of her otherwise the people standing behind her would not get the signal. You are right that much of the gambles don't make sense, it's like if Kaiji was written by someone sub 100 IQ. |
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Mywifesson said: The things you pointed out are wrong though. Maeri couldn't signal everyone in the room with some small hand gesture, the visual focus had to be on the other side of her otherwise the people standing behind her would not get the signal. Her hand gestures were not small though. She would raise her hand up to the side, which you could easily see from behind. A 7.5 is between good and very good according to MAL, neither of which I think describe this anime compared to other similar anime. @Rievlyne that quote in your signature is from Fear and Loathing isn't it |
Zoa6Feb 8, 2018 3:42 PM
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Zoa6 said: Mywifesson said: The things you pointed out are wrong though. Maeri couldn't signal everyone in the room with some small hand gesture, the visual focus had to be on the other side of her otherwise the people standing behind her would not get the signal. Her hand gestures were not small though. She would raise her hand up to the side, which you could easily see from behind. A 7.5 is between good and very good according to MAL, neither of which I think describe this anime compared to other similar anime. @Rievlyne that quote in your signature is from Fear and Loathing isn't it No. It's some lyric of Avenged Sevenfold's Bat Country |
| I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die. |
Oh. I think they may have gotten it from Fear and Loathing then. Panic! at the Disco also borrowed the quote. The full quote is by Hunter S. Thompson: “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” |
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Zoa6 said: Mywifesson said: The things you pointed out are wrong though. Maeri couldn't signal everyone in the room with some small hand gesture, the visual focus had to be on the other side of her otherwise the people standing behind her would not get the signal. Her hand gestures were not small though. She would raise her hand up to the side, which you could easily see from behind. A 7.5 is between good and very good according to MAL, neither of which I think describe this anime compared to other similar anime. @Rievlyne that quote in your signature is from Fear and Loathing isn't it No that doesn't work then because what would the different hand gestures signal and how would she make it differentiated so that each hand signal could be clearly seen? How could she avoid detection? The focal point had to be across from everyone else and outside the view of Jambane and also take place at a time the gaze of everyone was centralized. |
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| cause just like u dont like this show other do. |
| 7.58 is not that high yumeko carried this show for me |
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| Most people rate based on enjoyment, and I suppose seeing girls going bat shit crazy while screaming and moaning over gambling was pretty entertaining for them. |
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| Art is incredible. Some of the gambles aren't truly astonishing, but contrary to what you say I think they do make sense. But I'm pretty sure there's a lot of things that most of ppl here couldn't get (like the "Nishinotoin" joke) ^^ Anyways, you're not supposed to watch Kakegurui like you would watch Death Note, if you think this way, I'm not surprised you were disappointed. And well, after that, it's just taste, but I think it has, at least, the merit to be unique (and I personally find it really enjoyable, except last episode which was totally off the manga). Also, for ppl who wonder why a second season like @Yoshithehero : if the show isn't really appreciated here on MAL (or at least "average") it has a real success in Japan. Actually, lots of shows that meets a huge success in Japan are disliked on MAL (JUMP aside) ... and I don't think that MAL users are, financially wise, important enough to be somewhat relevant ^^ Zoa6 said: Because this is a gambling anime, I'd hold this to the same standards as Akagi. This is the dumbest thing to do btw, and I'm pretty sure you should have been learnt to never do something like this in middle school .... I find hard to believe that some people (especially older than 20) still has this kind of mindset... what a shame i.i ... I won't bet too much on humanity's future lmao I mean ya... at a different scale you could say that kakegurui is an anime, I didn't like kakegurui, so I don't like anime... legit... genius! |
Saoji-Feb 16, 2018 8:29 AM
Yales said: Anyways, you're not supposed to watch Kakegurui like you would watch Death Note Huh? I did not compare it to Death Note, I compared it to Akagi. Yales said: Zoa6 said: Because this is a gambling anime, I'd hold this to the same standards as Akagi. This is the dumbest thing to do btw, and I'm pretty sure you should have been learnt to never do something like this in middle school .... I find hard to believe that some people (especially older than 20) still has this kind of mindset... what a shame i.i ... I won't bet too much on humanity's future lmao I mean ya... at a different scale you could say that kakegurui is an anime, I didn't like kakegurui, so I don't like anime... legit... genius! What the hell are you talking about? Comparing different shows/movies/anime/games/books/etc. that fall under the same genre is normal, in case you didn't realize. - Both Akagi and this anime are about gambling. - Both have a main character who likes high stakes. - The main protagonists of both anime are supposedly "insane". - Both involves a series of gambles in which the main character forms some sort of strategy (though in the case of Kakegurui you can hardly call it that) to win. So why would I NOT hold Kakegurui to the same standards? It's not like I'm trying to compare Kakegurui to Nisekoi or something. I think Akagi is superior in basically every aspect except maybe art style (I personally like the art style in Akagi, but I know a lot of people don't). And I also like how Akagi doesn't like to gamble unless literally everything is put on the line. It makes him seem actually insane, as opposed to him simply contorting his face while talking loudly. And if Akagi has a rating of 8, Kakegurui shouldn't be anywhere close to that imo. Akagi was a lot more interesting with more enthralling gambling. Edit: I just noticed you didn't even watch Akagi. So really, what ARE you talking about? |
Zoa6Feb 17, 2018 9:46 PM
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Zoa6 said: Yales said: Anyways, you're not supposed to watch Kakegurui like you would watch Death Note Huh? I did not compare it to Death Note, I compared it to Akagi. Yales said: This is the dumbest thing to do btw, and I'm pretty sure you should have been learnt to never do something like this in middle school .... I find hard to believe that some people (especially older than 20) still has this kind of mindset... what a shame i.i ... I won't bet too much on humanity's future lmao I mean ya... at a different scale you could say that kakegurui is an anime, I didn't like kakegurui, so I don't like anime... legit... genius! What the hell are you talking about? Comparing different shows/movies/anime/games/books/etc. that fall under the same genre is normal, in case you didn't realize. - Both Akagi and this anime are about gambling. - Both have a main character who likes high stakes. - The main protagonists of both anime are supposedly "insane". - Both involves a series of gambles in which the main character forms some sort of strategy (though in the case of Kakegurui you can hardly call it that) to win. So why would I NOT hold Kakegurui to the same standards? It's not like I'm trying to compare Kakegurui to Nisekoi or something. I think Akagi is superior in basically every aspect except maybe art style (I personally like the art style in Akagi, but I know a lot of people don't). And I also like how Akagi doesn't like to gamble unless literally everything is put on the line. It makes him seem actually insane, as opposed to him simply contorting his face while talking loudly. And if Akagi has a rating of 8, Kakegurui shouldn't be anywhere close to that imo. Akagi was a lot more interesting with more enthralling gambling. Edit: I just noticed you didn't even watch Akagi. So really, what ARE you talking about? The quote about death note wasnt for you especially, But it kinda gives an answer to "Both involves a series of gambles in which the main character forms some sort of strategy (though in the case of Kakegurui you can hardly call it that) to win." it was just to say that kakegurui isn't an anime where you resolve some kind of puzzle and the execution is mind-blowing. It has a part of it, but it's not the focus. It's not aiming for something like this. (thing that you didn't get, maybe because you were comparing both shows too much? hehe) All shows are different, it may have common points but it shouldn't be put in the same standard, no. (or it means you're not really open-minded, as you're not open to something new within the structure of something already used... which is fine too btw). And disliking something because you preferred something else that was similar is pretty lame tbh. I found quite weird you used the term "art" in your response (I got you were referring to the design though) but yes, anime and manga are art by its definition, so each anime/manga is unique (and should be treated as such) even if it's inspired by other. Up to you to like it or not, this is not the point, but once more, stating that a part of the reason you disliked kakegurui is because you preferred another show that had a similar outline is really lame and has nothing to deal with me watching the other show or not. It's the consumer state of mind, unable to judge something on its own that made me tilt. No need to feel offended. My words might sound harsh, but I'm not trying to take you down or anything. It's just that your point felt surreal as it's, to me, really important to know how to judge something for what it is on its own. And not including some other factors that aren't directly related each other... I mean it's not even the same author lol... (and even if it were, it'd be debatable). To image it differently, I perceived what you said a bit like if you would ask a professional top chess player to naturally be a professional top shogi player as well (because, after all, rules are some sort of similar and it kinda looks the same... although if you go a bit more deeply, you'll realize it's really different). And on response to, "And if Akagi has a rating of 8, Kakegurui shouldn't be anywhere close to that imo. Akagi was a lot more interesting with more enthralling gambling." I'd like to add one last thing, (that is pretty obvious too but you don't seem to get it neither): Your taste isn't general. And for that matter, it's something that came up in Kakegurui too... I quote and I'll leave it here: "Judging everything by your own standards isn't good. Not all people are from the same cloth, after all. [...] There's no such thing as a person that completely aligns with your belief. That's what makes it so grand, no?" EDIT: After this conversation I've actually started to watch Akagi (it's been a while I planned to watch it so it was the time). It's really good yep, but it's different in a lot of ways from Kakegurui, I 100% maintain what I said. EDIT2: I actually disliked Akagi, rip |
Saoji-Feb 27, 2018 12:10 PM
| Really just kind of felt like they needed a catalyst for gratuitous fanservice shots. Probably would have served better as hentai. Nothing was likable or worth taking seriously for me. The art and animation was nice for the most part, although the fact that in the last few minutes they used CGI felt hilariously fitting for how disappointed I was by the whole thing. Pretty awful. I'm also surprised about the score it's got. It's far from even being average. |
| Fanservice gets a 9/10 for me The rest of the male characters like Ryoto 2/10 |
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| Personally I liked it quite a bit and gave it an 8/10. But I also love gambling and play poker Literally every day. Obviously nowhere near or even in the realm of the stakes portrayed in this show, but that's why I enjoyed it; knowing that feeling and then vicariously experiencing it multiplied exponentially by the stakes presented in this anime. |
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| Why is this thread generic and retarded? Real question. |
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Yales said: I've mostly seen the Kaiji comparison, because two shows that both include gambling are somehow always supposed to aim for the same feeling and character/gambling dynamics, it's really weird seeing them compared 90% of the time.Zoa6 said: Huh? I did not compare it to Death Note, I compared it to Akagi. What the hell are you talking about? Comparing different shows/movies/anime/games/books/etc. that fall under the same genre is normal, in case you didn't realize. - Both Akagi and this anime are about gambling. - Both have a main character who likes high stakes. - The main protagonists of both anime are supposedly "insane". - Both involves a series of gambles in which the main character forms some sort of strategy (though in the case of Kakegurui you can hardly call it that) to win. So why would I NOT hold Kakegurui to the same standards? It's not like I'm trying to compare Kakegurui to Nisekoi or something. I think Akagi is superior in basically every aspect except maybe art style (I personally like the art style in Akagi, but I know a lot of people don't). And I also like how Akagi doesn't like to gamble unless literally everything is put on the line. It makes him seem actually insane, as opposed to him simply contorting his face while talking loudly. And if Akagi has a rating of 8, Kakegurui shouldn't be anywhere close to that imo. Akagi was a lot more interesting with more enthralling gambling. Edit: I just noticed you didn't even watch Akagi. So really, what ARE you talking about? The quote about death note wasnt for you especially, But it kinda gives an answer to "Both involves a series of gambles in which the main character forms some sort of strategy (though in the case of Kakegurui you can hardly call it that) to win." it was just to say that kakegurui isn't an anime where you resolve some kind of puzzle and the execution is mind-blowing. It has a part of it, but it's not the focus. It's not aiming for something like this. (thing that you didn't get, maybe because you were comparing both shows too much? hehe) All shows are different, it may have common points but it shouldn't be put in the same standard, no. (or it means you're not really open-minded, as you're not open to something new within the structure of something already used... which is fine too btw). And disliking something because you preferred something else that was similar is pretty lame tbh. I found quite weird you used the term "art" in your response (I got you were referring to the design though) but yes, anime and manga are art by its definition, so each anime/manga is unique (and should be treated as such) even if it's inspired by other. Up to you to like it or not, this is not the point, but once more, stating that a part of the reason you disliked kakegurui is because you preferred another show that had a similar outline is really lame and has nothing to deal with me watching the other show or not. It's the consumer state of mind, unable to judge something on its own that made me tilt. No need to feel offended. My words might sound harsh, but I'm not trying to take you down or anything. It's just that your point felt surreal as it's, to me, really important to know how to judge something for what it is on its own. And not including some other factors that aren't directly related each other... I mean it's not even the same author lol... (and even if it were, it'd be debatable). To image it differently, I perceived what you said a bit like if you would ask a professional top chess player to naturally be a professional top shogi player as well (because, after all, rules are some sort of similar and it kinda looks the same... although if you go a bit more deeply, you'll realize it's really different). And on response to, "And if Akagi has a rating of 8, Kakegurui shouldn't be anywhere close to that imo. Akagi was a lot more interesting with more enthralling gambling." I'd like to add one last thing, (that is pretty obvious too but you don't seem to get it neither): Your taste isn't general. And for that matter, it's something that came up in Kakegurui too... I quote and I'll leave it here: "Judging everything by your own standards isn't good. Not all people are from the same cloth, after all. [...] There's no such thing as a person that completely aligns with your belief. That's what makes it so grand, no?" EDIT: After this conversation I've actually started to watch Akagi (it's been a while I planned to watch it so it was the time). It's really good yep, but it's different in a lot of ways from Kakegurui, I 100% maintain what I said. EDIT2: I actually disliked Akagi, rip Half my blog posts are about Kakegurui just cause I kinda though it was pretty alright and there seemed to be so much weird hate for it out there. |
Joined: 2015 Exactly. That's the point I was trying to make. Those threads have always been here and they always will be and they should either be ignored or ridiculed. I have given a 10 to a show that has an average rating of 7.00 - now does that mean this rating is wrong? It would be helpful if average ratings were removed from the site - what's the point of them? And don't tell me about TOP ANIME. Please. I've seen it all over the decade I've spent here and it's all just goin' in circles. For the longest time I just stopped caring. But once in a while even I get the need to say something. |
WerchielApr 15, 2018 5:45 AM
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| I loved it. I compare the visual style to Prison School. |
| Because it's popular. |
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| There are 7 wonders in this world, this is the most enigmatic one yet. |
 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔱𝔬𝔲𝔠𝔥 𝔶𝔬𝔲, 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔫' 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔴𝔦𝔱𝔥 𝔞𝔩𝔩 𝔪𝔶 𝔪𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱 ______________________ |
| This show is great due to its style and high tension. I really don't care if they come up with the greatest gambling scenarios or not. What matters to me is the characters and their reactions to their wins and losses. In this regard, this anime was a tremendous hit (at least to me). |
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| Because some people probably fap to it. |
| I just love when poeple complain about A N I M E being unrealistic |
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| An anime has to be pretty terrible to be rated lower than a 6 on here. It’s rating is normal. MAL ratings don’t go by the full 1-10 rating scale, hardly anything is even rated lower than 4. |
| Opinions or whatever the fuck ennit but the intro is hot shit and it's really all I care for other than it's complete over the topness |
| not everything has to be thought provoking to be good. It was fun, dumb, entertaining and thats enough. |
STOP SLEEPING ON ODD TAXI |
| Disregarding the score in general, the show is honestly pretty shite tier outside of the art. One of the best things about gambling media is suspense, and this series has more or less nothing in that regard. |
What a beautiful Duwang |
| I gave the show 8/10 Reason is because it is fun and entertaining I'm simple guy, if I enjoy an anime I give it a good score. I don't need to think hard about it. Maybe the games are dumb and lack strategy but that does not matter when show is so entertaining to watch. |
| The last anime I finished that was such a hot garbage was Absolute Duo. I was halfway through when I gave up the series being anything decent but by then I just speedwatched until the end just for completion sake. The show starts posing about how smart it is and all this strategy, but you quickly discover it really has nothing, it's basically just Yumeko wins. There's no insight how she figures anything out, she just knows after taking a look. The stakes usually don't matter, nothing ever happens or changes. |
| This is just really fun to watch. The characters are edgy and extremely beautiful. What not to love? |
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