isekai said: The Family Research Council opposes and actively lobbies against equal rights for LGBT persons. The conservative Christian group campaigns against same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, LGBT adoption, abortion, embryonic stell-cell research, pornography and divorce. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-anti-lgbt-address-hate-group-summit-meeting-first-president-us-homphobia-a7997401.html Did I read that right? And I had given hope on this world but it seems some hope still Exist .. I still hate Trump but atleast he is not brainwashed by the societal pressure .. Also good to know there are some good christians left in this world.. |
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jonnyhan said: Not sure if this site is ripe with intellectual dishonesty or ignorance. How often do you hear leftist politicians denouncing terrorist hate groups like ANTIFA and BLM with the level of candor they expect from Trump? Just because leftist politicians don't go give speeches in ANTIFA and BLM rallies does not make them any better than Trump who is giving speeches to social conservative groups. Also this so called hate group has committed zero acts of violence, where as ANTIFA and BLM have multiple instances of being violent recorded on video. Trump's predecessor often used divisive language and made dangerous assumptions of racism during events like Ferguson and Trayvon. I am an immigrant, but even I know USA was founded on preservation of natural rights. So while I despise social conservatives and their plea for authoritarianism through policy, it is way bigger issue when leftists that think it is okay to physically hurt someone for having bad opinions. It is funny how you idiots are not even self aware of your hypocrisy. Whoutaboutism. That is intellectual dishonesty. The hypocrit is Trump saying he will stand up for LGBT-rights and then does the opposite. |
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zodd0 said: jonnyhan said: Not sure if this site is ripe with intellectual dishonesty or ignorance. How often do you hear leftist politicians denouncing terrorist hate groups like ANTIFA and BLM with the level of candor they expect from Trump? Just because leftist politicians don't go give speeches in ANTIFA and BLM rallies does not make them any better than Trump who is giving speeches to social conservative groups. Also this so called hate group has committed zero acts of violence, where as ANTIFA and BLM have multiple instances of being violent recorded on video. Trump's predecessor often used divisive language and made dangerous assumptions of racism during events like Ferguson and Trayvon. I am an immigrant, but even I know USA was founded on preservation of natural rights. So while I despise social conservatives and their plea for authoritarianism through policy, it is way bigger issue when leftists that think it is okay to physically hurt someone for having bad opinions. It is funny how you idiots are not even self aware of your hypocrisy. Whoutaboutism. That is intellectual dishonesty. The hypocrit is Trump saying he will stand up for LGTBQ-rights and then does the opposite. I mean, I can't read minds. But I think Trump was dogwhistling that he will take care of manly gay men's rights and the others can kindly fuck off. |
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Spilling the seed is sin in Bible. Even safe sex with a condom could be consider a sin, which why missionaries in Africa try to ban them. Even looking at another woman with lust is a sin! Of course everyone wants to masturbate, so people just changed their interpretation of the myth like they always do. and they are allowed to divorce under specific circumstances (being unfaithful to your partner, breaking a marriage vow, etc). No, they are not, unless EXTREMELY specific situations happen. That is why it's "until death do us apart". King Henry VII had to form another sect of Catholicism because the Pope didn't allow him to divorce. Even today you can't get remarried in church if you divorce. Annulment isn't given like free candies, but people still divorce regardless. At least learn what their beliefs are before you try to attack them. Also you are just pulling that 90% figure out of your ass so your view is completely invalid anyway. You quite obviously don't know shit about 'most catholics'. I grew up Catholic, went to catechism and received all Catholic sacraments. Catholics, or rather religious people, are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. No one sane wants to live by laws made by people 2000 years ago. Also you are guilty of the same thing you are accusing them of. Here you are throwing out false arguments in order to legitimize your distaste for them. Your bias is no more appealing than the bible; remember that the next time you open your mouth. There is something funny about someone called iLolicon with that avatar trying to teach us about religion. I wonder how jesus christ would feel about you lusting after 10 years little girls. iLolicon said: Sorry but Red John was right. There is no room for that in Christianity. It is against core teachings and just believing JC is saviour means nothing if you don't also follow his teachings. Your friends are just falsely labeling themselves and are not really Christians at all.  |
BernrikaOct 14, 2017 5:28 AM
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Bernrika said: Spilling the seed is sin in Bible. Even safe sex with a condom could be consider a sin, which why missionaries in Africa try to ban them. Even looking at another woman with lust is a sin! Of course everyone wants to masturbate, so people just changed their interpretation of the myth like they always do. and they are allowed to divorce under specific circumstances (being unfaithful to your partner, breaking a marriage vow, etc). No, they are not, unless EXTREMELY specific situations happen. That is why it's "until death do us apart". King Henry VII had to form another sect of Catholicism because the Pope didn't allow him to divorce. Even today you can't get remarried in church if you divorce. Annulment isn't given like free candies, but people still divorce regardless. At least learn what their beliefs are before you try to attack them. Also you are just pulling that 90% figure out of your ass so your view is completely invalid anyway. You quite obviously don't know shit about 'most catholics'. I grew up Catholic, went to catechism and received all Catholic sacraments. Catholics, or rather religious people, are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. No one sane wants to live by laws made by people 2000 years ago. Also you are guilty of the same thing you are accusing them of. Here you are throwing out false arguments in order to legitimize your distaste for them. Your bias is no more appealing than the bible; remember that the next time you open your mouth. There is something funny about someone called iLolicon with that avatar trying to teach us about religion. I wonder how jesus christ would feel about you lusting after 10 years little girls. iLolicon said: Sorry but Red John was right. There is no room for that in Christianity. It is against core teachings and just believing JC is saviour means nothing if you don't also follow his teachings. Your friends are just falsely labeling themselves and are not really Christians at all. we've already been over this, see traed's post. Spilling the seed is not a sin in the bible. It is a sin in one specific case where God commanded him to do otherwise. Stop taking individual verses out of context to suit your agenda. - You are wrong. God permits divorce when one partner is being unfaithful, and when they break one of their marriage vows. He also permits it without those two reasons but condemns it and forbids remarrying if one is to do so. - You didn't fucking pay attention then. Your statement is broad and there is no evidence to support it. Your view of Catholicism is obviously just bias. Stop trying to lump in the hypocrites and liars with actual Catholics. There are many people who would call themselves Catholic who aren't. If you don't follow Catholic teachings then you aren't really Catholic, it's as simple as that. - So you resort to a personal attack on me rather than my actual argument? I will let that speak for itself. - And you respond with an irrelevant meme. There are many false Christians. There's no denying it. I've already explained that one in further detail, but you ignored that part of course because you only took out the few lines that you thought you could bend. - Just don't speak about Catholicism. You are only demonstrating to everyone that you know nothing about it. |
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Except that's all the bible is, taking verses out of context to fit one agenda while taking some other verses literally to fit another agenda. You are wrong. God permits divorce when one partner is being unfaithful, and when they break one of their marriage vows. He also permits it without those two reasons but condemns it and forbids remarrying if one is to do so. And yet the Catholic church strictly has an anti-divorce stance. You didn't fucking pay attention then. Your statement is broad and there is no evidence to support it. Your view of Catholicism is obviously just bias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman I'm willing to bet many of these Catholic are also willing to claim you are a bad Catholic and vice versa. I'm willing to bet many priests would condemn you and say you are a sinful being with that avatar, and a bad Catholic. Stop trying to lump in the hypocrites and liars with actual Catholics. There are many people who would call themselves Catholic who aren't. If you don't follow Catholic teachings then you aren't really Catholic, it's as simple as that. You don't follow Catholic teachings yourself, so who are you to lecture these people? So you resort to a personal attack on me rather than my actual argument? I will let that speak for itself.  You claim yourself to be a good christian who is knowledge of Catholicism, so yes, I'm going to point out you are obsessed with little girls and you clearly committing many acts that go against the catholic doctrine. And you respond with an irrelevant meme. There are many false Christians. There's no denying it. I've already explained that one in further detail, but you ignored that part of course because you only took out the few lines that you thought you could bend. Case in point. Just don't speak about Catholicism. You are only demonstrating to everyone that you know nothing about it. The only thing I'm trying to demonstrate is that Catholic are massive hypocrites, which I think I succeeded. Or do you think Jesus Christ would be content with your persona and tastes? DragonSlayer_19 said: So anyone who disagrees with LGBT now is associated with the word "anti" and "hate" fuckin lmao How else do you want to call them? |
BernrikaOct 14, 2017 6:14 AM
Bernrika said: Except that's all the bible is, taking verses out of context to fit one agenda while taking some other verses literally to fit another agenda. You are wrong. God permits divorce when one partner is being unfaithful, and when they break one of their marriage vows. He also permits it without those two reasons but condemns it and forbids remarrying if one is to do so. And yet the Catholic church strictly has an anti-divorce stance. You didn't fucking pay attention then. Your statement is broad and there is no evidence to support it. Your view of Catholicism is obviously just bias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman I'm willing to bet many of these Catholic are also willing to claim you are a bad Catholic and vice versa. I'm willing to bet many priests would condemn you and say you are a sinful being with that avatar, and a bad Catholic. Stop trying to lump in the hypocrites and liars with actual Catholics. There are many people who would call themselves Catholic who aren't. If you don't follow Catholic teachings then you aren't really Catholic, it's as simple as that. You don't follow Catholic teachings yourself, so who are you to lecture these people? So you resort to a personal attack on me rather than my actual argument? I will let that speak for itself. You claim yourself to be a good christian who is knowledge of Catholicism, so yes, I'm going to point out you are obsessed with little girls and you clearly committing many acts that go against the catholic doctrine. And you respond with an irrelevant meme. There are many false Christians. There's no denying it. I've already explained that one in further detail, but you ignored that part of course because you only took out the few lines that you thought you could bend. Case in point. Just don't speak about Catholicism. You are only demonstrating to everyone that you know nothing about it. The only thing I'm trying to demonstrate is that Catholic are massive hypocrites, which I think I succeeded. Or do you think Jesus Christ would be content with your persona and tastes? DragonSlayer_19 said: So anyone who disagrees with LGBT now is associated with the word "anti" and "hate" fuckin lmao How else do you want to call them? Again, you are just showing your bias. Attacking Catholicism with no basis. You read it all and then it becomes clear what it means. You are the only one taking it out of context. - I was taught that in a church. Find me evidence to suggest it's incorrect and I will reconsider my stance. I doubt you're capable though since you didn't even know of masturbation not being sinful. - I don't claim to be a 'good' Christian. Though I do claim to be Christian I openly admit I struggle with sin. I don't consider anime girls women as they are fictional and drawn characters, so I see no issue in looking at them with lust. That's my personal view and if it's wrong then I will suffer the consequences in the eye's of God. And I am not Catholic though I am familiar with their doctrines. - You are just dodging my points. I am not pushing anyone to follow Catholic doctrines nor do I follow them myself, I am simply telling you that those who don't follow them are not Catholics. How is that lecturing "those people"? - No, hypocrites are hypocrites and Catholics are Catholics, stop confusing the two. Let me go by your logic. I am an Atheist but I believe in God. That's ok right? because it doesn't matter if it's a contradiction to you apparently. |
iLoliconOct 14, 2017 6:30 AM
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iLolicon said: Let me go by your logic. I am an Atheist but I believe in God. That's ok right? because it doesn't matter if it's a contradiction to you apparently. Atheism is defined by the belief that there is no God. So no, it's not possible. You are attempting a false equivalence and failing. The moment you believe in God you are no longer an atheist. Christianity is the belief in the divine person of Jesus Christ and that there is a god. Everything else has been subjected to interpretations and changed to fit agendas. Laws that used be taken literally became "up to interpretation" (Like, again, masturbation, spilling the seed, per-marital sex), laws that used to be uncomfortable became forgotten and explanations on how life came to be became "metaphors". Even Jesus's teaching (Which are most about doing good and love and acceptance) became twisted. The Church is also a human institution that often became corrupted and didn't even follow jesus's teaching at some point (Hello, middle ages), so it would make sense that some religus people would stop following it. You yourself are the example of someone who claims to be Christian and doesn't follow Christian rules using excuses because you want to masturbate to little girls, for example. By that logic, any other Christian who doesn't follow the bible and the new testament to a T is also a Christian. |
BernrikaOct 14, 2017 6:47 AM
Bernrika said: iLolicon said: Let me go by your logic. I am an Atheist but I believe in God. That's ok right? because it doesn't matter if it's a contradiction to you apparently. Atheism is defined by the belief that there is no God. So no, it's not possible. You are attempting a false equivalence and failing. The moment you believe in God you are no longer an atheist. Christianity is the belief in the divine person of Jesus Christ and that there is a god. Everything else has been subjected to interpretations and changed to fit agendas. Laws that used be taken literally became "up to interpretation" (Like, again, masturbation, spilling the seed, per-marital sex), laws that used to be uncomfortable became forgotten and explanations on how life came to be became "metaphors". Even Jesus's teaching (Which are most about doing good and love and acceptance) became twisted. The Church is also a human institution that often became corrupted and didn't even follow jesus's teaching at some point (Hello, middle ages), so it would make sense that some Catholic would stop following it. You yourself are the example of someone who claims to be Christian and doesn't follow Christian rules using excuses because you want to masturbate to little girls, for example. Sorry but it's clear to me now that you are just retarded and incapable of understanding common sense. It went right over your head. "Atheism is defined by the belief that there is no God. So no, it's not possible. You are attempting a false equivalence and failing. The moment you believe in God you are not an atheist." You said it yourself, now let me put it on the other end of the spectrum for you. "Christianity is following Christ", so the moment you choose not to follow Christ you are not Catholic. Unfortunately you don't even know the correct definition of Christianity. Believing in God is not the same as obeying him. Even the demons and Satan believe in God's existence, that does not make them Christian. If you do not follow the teachings then you cannot be Christian. Those who purposely interpret it in certain ways to fit their agenda are not Christian and they will pay with God's judgement. If you actually tried reading the bible for yourself you'd understand the nature of God pretty clearly and find that reasonable ways of interpreting it is actually quite limited. There are a lot of false Christians yes, but stop lumping them in with actual ones. It was only the Catholic church that became corrupt, that's why there was the protestant reformation. The whole point was that all these hypocrites who called themselves Catholic, weren't in fact, and were only using God's name for their own agenda. Only the priests could read latin so they could tell the people whatever they wanted. You can bet that they would not go unpunished when the time came for them to meet God. Do you seriously consider them real Catholics when they were blatantly opposing God's will? They were liars who didn't follow Christ, so they weren't. Masturbation is allowed, and there is nothing forbidding me from looking at a fictional drawn character with lust. I am forbidden from looking at other people with lust, not drawn characters that do not exist. I follow biblical teachings, as do other Christians. What are these rules that I supposedly do not follow? Again you lack sufficient knowledge of Christianity to argue about it. You are just letting your personal bias get the better of you. - As for those who aren't pro LGBT, you could call them indifferent. Not everyone gives a shit. |
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iLolicon said: Sorry but it's clear to me now that you are just retarded and incapable of understanding common sense. It went right over your head. At least I'm not a Christian masturbating to little girls. Believing in God is not the same as obeying him. Even the demons and Satan believe in God's existence, that does not make them Christian. If you do not follow the teachings then you cannot be Christian. Which it's what I said. >is the belief in the divine person of Jesus Christ Those who purposely interpret it in certain ways to fit their agenda are not Christian and they will pay with God's judgement. If you actually tried reading the bible for yourself you'd understand the nature of God pretty clearly and fine that reasonable ways of interpreting it is actually quite limited. The bible itself isn't even coherent with the nature of God. Old testament God is a vengeful god that kills people and speaks to people directly. The new one is a merciful god that sends his son to die for us and doesn't speak to people anymore. Did you actually read it? Of course you didn't, you are a Christian. They just taught you few passages. There are a lot of false Christians yes, but stop lumping them in with actual ones. I'm pretty sure most of these "false Christians" are going to claim the other way around. They would claim you are a false Christian because you smack to little girls. It was only the Catholic church that became corrupt, that's why there was the protestant reformation. The whole point was that all these hypocrites who called themselves Catholic, weren't in fact, and were only using God's name for their own agenda. Only the priests could read latin so they could tell the people whatever they wanted. You can bet that they would not go unpunished when the time came for them to meet God. Do you seriously consider them real Catholics when they were blatantly opposing God's will? They were liars who didn't follow Christ, so they weren't. The modern Catholic church is corrupt. I wonder what Jesus would say abut these priest wearing gold chains and traveling in limousine. Either way, they are no different than you or most Christian who claim to speak for god. Masturbation is allowed, and there is nothing forbidding me from looking at a fictional drawn character with lust. I am forbidden from looking at other people with lust, not drawn characters that do not exist. I follow biblical teachings, as do other Christians. What are these rules that I supposedly do not follow? Again you lack sufficient knowledge of Christianity to argue about it. You are just letting your personal bias get the better of you. Again, thanks for proving your hypocrisy. Also you don't follow biblical teaching, stop lying. There are a mountain of rules in the bible you ignore and don't know. Spilling the seed only became allowed when it became too hard to follow for you, and it's only allowed according to some sects of christian. (Just like sex with condoms and per-marital sex). I guess if you don't trust me, go to ask some priests if it's fine to masturbate to drawing of little girls and tell us what he says? Go to church tomorrow and start distributing pictures of fictional anime little girls. I mean, it's not a sin, so there is nothing wrong with it, right? Let us know how it goes! DragonSlayer_19 said: People with a stance or opinion on the matter is what they should be called, but i guess many pro-lgbt can't perceive that lol they only see themselves and none matters... How do you feel about people who are anti-black people? Are they just having an opinion, or are they hateful and racist? Being LGBT is not a belief. |
BernrikaOct 14, 2017 7:37 AM
Bernrika said: [/quote]iLolicon said: Sorry but it's clear to me now that you are just retarded and incapable of understanding common sense. It went right over your head. At least I'm not a Christian masturbating to little girls. Believing in God is not the same as obeying him. Even the demons and Satan believe in God's existence, that does not make them Christian. If you do not follow the teachings then you cannot be Christian. Which it's what I said. >is the belief in the divine person of Jesus Christ Those who purposely interpret it in certain ways to fit their agenda are not Christian and they will pay with God's judgement. If you actually tried reading the bible for yourself you'd understand the nature of God pretty clearly and fine that reasonable ways of interpreting it is actually quite limited. The bible itself isn't even coherent with the nature of God. Old testament God is a vengeful god that kills people and speaks to people directly. The new one is a God is a merciful god that sends his son to die for us and doesn't speak to people anymore. Did you actually read it? Of course you didn't, you are a Christian. They just taught you few passages. There are a lot of false Christians yes, but stop lumping them in with actual ones. I'm pretty sure most of these "false Christians" are going to claim the other way around. They would claim you are a false Christian because you smack to little girls. It was only the Catholic church that became corrupt, that's why there was the protestant reformation. The whole point was that all these hypocrites who called themselves Catholic, weren't in fact, and were only using God's name for their own agenda. Only the priests could read latin so they could tell the people whatever they wanted. You can bet that they would not go unpunished when the time came for them to meet God. Do you seriously consider them real Catholics when they were blatantly opposing God's will? They were liars who didn't follow Christ, so they weren't. The modern Catholic church is corrupt. I wonder what Jesus would say abut these priest wearing gold chains and traveling in limousine. Masturbation is allowed, and there is nothing forbidding me from looking at a fictional drawn character with lust. I am forbidden from looking at other people with lust, not drawn characters that do not exist. I follow biblical teachings, as do other Christians. What are these rules that I supposedly do not follow? Again you lack sufficient knowledge of Christianity to argue about it. You are just letting your personal bias get the better of you. Again, thanks for proving your hypocrisy. Also you don't follow biblical teaching, stop lying. There are a mountain of rules in the bible you ignore and don't know. Spilling the seed only became allowed when it became too hard to follow for you, and it's only allowed according to some sects of christian (Just like sex with condoms and per-marital sex). I guess if you don't trust me, go to ask some priests if it's fine to masturbate to drawing of little girls and say what he ask? People with a stance or opinion on the matter is what they should be called, but i guess many pro-lgbt can't perceive that lol they only see themselves and none matters... "At least I'm not a Christian masturbating to [fictional anime] girls." And I am not saying it's wrong to but how would you even know if I masturbated to them? - "is the belief in the divine person of Jesus Christ" Don't make me repeat myself, did you even read what I wrote? believing and following are not the same. And Christianity is not just believing. - Talk smack to little girls? where did you get this idea? stop pulling nonsense out of your ass. - No, individuals who claim to be Catholic but do not fit the definition are corrupt. - You don't even know what the bible says on the matter. You are pulling these "mountains of rules" out of your ass. They don't exist, else you would cite them. Spilling seed was one particular case, and that wasn't the sin, it was disobeying's God direct command. Stop taking it out of context and making me repeat myself. - If a priest disagrees with me that is fine. I maintain that I follow biblical teachings, and there is nothing on masturbating to fictional anime girls if I chose to do so. What am I lying about? - Stop regurgitating the same crap over and over because you fail to comprehend what I've already told you. Are you not proficient in English? How are you not understanding this? Maybe you should get your parents to help explain the post to you, some words must be too difficult for you. |
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DragonSlayer_19 said: So anyone who disagrees with LGBT now is associated with the word "anti" and "hate" fuckin lmao We could just call you homophobes, because that's what you are per definition. But you tend to cry about that as well. |
zodd0 said: DragonSlayer_19 said: So anyone who disagrees with LGBT now is associated with the word "anti" and "hate" fuckin lmao We could just call you homophobes, because that's what you are per definition. But you tend to cry about that as well. disliking gays =/= scared of gays Not everyone wants to support a mental disease. Get over yourselves. |
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zodd0 said: DragonSlayer_19 said: So anyone who disagrees with LGBT now is associated with the word "anti" and "hate" fuckin lmao We could just call you homophobes, because that's what you are per definition. But you tend to cry about that as well. Just cause i disagree with it and stand by own principles doesn't mean i'm a homophobe lmao the word phobia doesn't apply.... You might want to check a dictionary |
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Bernrika said: If a priest disagrees with me that is fine. The fact you can't see the blatant hypocrisy is hilarious. I maintain that I follow biblical teachings, So I guess everyone who claims to be a christian is, as long "s/he maintains to follow biblical teaching"? O unlike Catholics, Protestants don't have priests, we just have pastors, and their word is not law. God's word is. - I would say the exact same thing about you. - You are correct. If they maintain to follow biblical teachings then they are Christian, if they are clearly not following them, then it doesn't matter what they say they are not Christian just hypocrites. |
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iLolicon said: zodd0 said: We could just call you homophobes, because that's what you are per definition. But you tend to cry about that as well. disliking gays =/= scared of gays >Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).[1][2][3] It has been defined as contempt, prejudice, aversion, hatred or antipathy, may be based on irrational fear, and is often related to religious beliefs.[4][5] Beside, most homophobes are only afraid of gay men and are fine of lesbians, like I'm sure it's your case given the kind of stuff you watch. Not everyone wants to support a mental disease. Get over yourselves. Except homosexuality isn't a mental illnesses. |
Bernrika said: >Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).[1][2][3] It has been defined as contempt, prejudice, aversion, hatred or antipathy, may be based on irrational fear, and is often related to religious beliefs.[4][5] Beside, most homophobes are only afraid of gay men and are fine of lesbians, like I'm sure it's your case given the kind of stuff you watch. Not everyone wants to support a mental disease. Get over yourselves. Except homosexuality isn't a mental illnesses. It is a mental illness. What kind of stuff do I watch? That word is new and doesn't make any sense. A phobia is something that you are afraid of. I am not afraid of gay people I just don't like that they are gay. |
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iLolicon said: You are correct. If they maintain to follow biblical teachings then they are Christian, if they are clearly not following them, then it doesn't matter what they say they are not Christian just hypocrites. I don't think you understand very well. Everyone can do what you do and claim to be "a true christian", by saying that "the bible doesn't say anything about x or y or it's just a wrongful interpretation". |
spuukiebuugi said: iLolicon said: disliking gays =/= scared of gays Not everyone wants to support a mental disease. Get over yourselves. It's not a mental disease, nor is it any of your business, asshole. Years ago because of that mindset they were throwing LGBT people in asylums where they didn't belong, despite not harming anyone. They were driven insane despite never having a mental health condition in the first place and forced to live in squalor. It was a disgusting and barbaric practice. If there's one thing I can't stand it's homophobes deciding what anyone else's orientation should be when it comes to LGBT people. No, not those tumblr brats, legitimate LGBT people. Fucking please. Oh please, get back to your threesome with Traed and Date. you are the epitome of a far-left wackjob. Your views lost any weight with me a long time ago. I am not deciding on their orientation, I am saying that wanting to fuck your own gender is a mental disease. And why are you suddenly bringing tumblr brats into the discussion? |
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Except it isn't. Do you have any proof of it? Or can we claim random stuff is a mental illness? What kind of stuff do I watch? Half of lolicon shows have lesbianism in them, and behold, you seem to like Prima/Illya, the show with 10 years old being lesbians. That word is new and doesn't make any sense. A phobia is something that you are afraid of. I am not afraid of gay people I just don't like that they are gay. A lot of phobia toward gay people is driven by fear, and again, the definition is "a fear or dislike of gay people". |
Bernrika said: If it is a reasonable interpretation, yes. It's usually quite obvious what is and was isn't in accordance to God's nature. The bible does not give as much room for interpretation as you seem to think.iLolicon said: You are correct. If they maintain to follow biblical teachings then they are Christian, if they are clearly not following them, then it doesn't matter what they say they are not Christian just hypocrites. I don't think you understand very well. Everyone can do what you do and claim to be "a true christian", by saying that "the bible doesn't say anything about x or y or it's just a wrongful interpretation". |
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spuukiebuugi said: iLolicon said: It is a mental illness. What kind of stuff do I watch? That word is new and doesn't make any sense. A phobia is something that you are afraid of. I am not afraid of gay people I just don't like that they are gay. It's all very ironic to hear this "mental illness" accusation coming from a guy with that avatar and that username. The amount of hypocrisy by thou's own definition does precede itself. "Nobody is allowed to be what I dislike except me! I can be obsssed with ten year old girls! But if you're LGBT you sicken me!" Get over yourself You're the one commenting on my comment. You get over yourself Ms. broken record. I am not saying that anyone is not allowed to be gay, just that I don't like it. Stop getting all emotional and read what I actually wrote instead of trying to put words into my mouth. |
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Bernrika said: Except it isn't. Do you have any proof of it? Or can we claim random stuff is a mental illness? What kind of stuff do I watch? Half of lolicon shows have lesbianism in them, and behold, you seem to like Prima/Illya, the show with 10 years old being lesbians. That word is new and doesn't make any sense. A phobia is something that you are afraid of. I am not afraid of gay people I just don't like that they are gay. A lot of phobia toward gay people is driven by fear, and again, the definition is "a fear or dislike of gay people". I have not watched much of Prisma/Illya. Though I do like the art work. Regardless, those lesbians are fictional anime characters. Again, I have to repeat myself because you struggle to comprehend. I do not fear gay people. I just dislike that they are gay. |
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iLolicon said: Bernrika said: If it is a reasonable interpretation, yes. It's usually quite obvious what is and was isn't in accordance to God's nature. The bible does not give as much room for interpretation as you seem to think.I don't think you understand very well. Everyone can do what you do and claim to be "a true christian", by saying that "the bible doesn't say anything about x or y or it's just a wrongful interpretation". There are as many interpretations as there are people, it's why there are 200 versions of Christianity. And they all think they are valid. I'm willing to bet the Christian authorizes think your acts are sinful. Or do you claim to speak for God? |
spuukiebuugi said: Oh please, you are on the same level. You don't seriously think otherwise so you may as well stop pretending. You came in all emotionally damaged because I said don't like gay people. Then you tried to claim I said this: "Nobody is allowed to be what I dislike". How you even managed to interpret my words that way is beyond me. They are allowed to be whatever the fuck they want but I don't have to like it. Here it is you pushing your opinions on others.iLolicon said: Oh please, get back to your threesome with Traed and Date. you are the epitome of a far-left wackjob. Your views lost any weight with me a long time ago. I am not deciding on their orientation, I am saying that wanting to fuck your own gender is a mental disease. And why are you suddenly bringing tumblr brats into the discussion? I'm a centrist saint compared to Date, and I'm nowhere near traed's level. And who the fuck are you? I've only seen you harping like a little bitch here recently. just because I support LGBT people, or women's rights, or I don't like Trump, I'm a SJW now, nice logic. To be fair, your views never had any weight with me to begin with because they are default garbage and your decaying level of moral degeneracy despite that heightened sense of morale, I saw one post of yours and I knew all your views were equally stinking garbage, so two can play at that game. Where is the evidence that homosexuality isn't a mental disease? |
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iLolicon said: It is a mental illness. What kind of stuff do I watch? That word is new and doesn't make any sense. A phobia is something that you are afraid of. I am not afraid of gay people I just don't like that they are gay. A lolicon accusing other people of having a mental illness. My fucking sides. Also I hate it when people claim they're not homophobic, but in the same sentence claim that it's wrong, or gross. You try to downplay it, but acting like it's wrong or that it's a mental disease IS homophobic. Bernrika is right, you're full of shit and a complete hypocrite. |
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iLolicon said: I have not watched much of Prisma/Illya. Though I do like the art work. Regardless, those lesbians are fictional anime characters. It's more like homophobes like you don't mind lesbians, really. People are not stupid. Again, I have to repeat myself because you struggle to comprehend. I do not fear gay people. I just dislike that they are gay. I don't think you understand either. "Homophobia" is also used to describe the dislike of gay individuals. That's the dictionary definition. Dislike is also more often than not fueled by fear. It's not necessarily your case, but it is often the case. We fear what we don't know or understand. |
iLolicon said: Bernrika said: At least I'm not a Christian masturbating to little girls. Which it's what I said. >is the belief in the divine person of Jesus Christ The bible itself isn't even coherent with the nature of God. Old testament God is a vengeful god that kills people and speaks to people directly. The new one is a God is a merciful god that sends his son to die for us and doesn't speak to people anymore. Did you actually read it? Of course you didn't, you are a Christian. They just taught you few passages. I'm pretty sure most of these "false Christians" are going to claim the other way around. They would claim you are a false Christian because you smack to little girls. The modern Catholic church is corrupt. I wonder what Jesus would say abut these priest wearing gold chains and traveling in limousine. Again, thanks for proving your hypocrisy. Also you don't follow biblical teaching, stop lying. There are a mountain of rules in the bible you ignore and don't know. Spilling the seed only became allowed when it became too hard to follow for you, and it's only allowed according to some sects of christian (Just like sex with condoms and per-marital sex). I guess if you don't trust me, go to ask some priests if it's fine to masturbate to drawing of little girls and say what he ask? People with a stance or opinion on the matter is what they should be called, but i guess many pro-lgbt can't perceive that lol they only see themselves and none matters... "At least I'm not a Christian masturbating to [fictional anime] girls." And I am not saying it's wrong to but how would you even know if I masturbated to them? - "is the belief in the divine person of Jesus Christ" Don't make me repeat myself, did you even read what I wrote? believing and following are not the same. And Christianity is not just believing. - Talk smack to little girls? where did you get this idea? stop pulling nonsense out of your ass. - No, individuals who claim to be Catholic but do not fit the definition are corrupt. - You don't even know what the bible says on the matter. You are pulling these "mountains of rules" out of your ass. They don't exist, else you would cite them. Spilling seed was one particular case, and that wasn't the sin, it was disobeying's God direct command. Stop taking it out of context and making me repeat myself. - If a priest disagrees with me that is fine. I maintain that I follow biblical teachings, and there is nothing on masturbating to fictional anime girls if I chose to do so. What am I lying about? - Stop regurgitating the same crap over and over because you fail to comprehend what I've already told you. Are you not proficient in English? How are you not understanding this? Maybe you should get your parents to help explain the post to you, some words must be too difficult for you.[/quote] I grew up catholic. I left it. I know what they teach. Divorce is considered wrong. Taking birth control is considered wrong. You must believe in the divinity of Mother Mary and Jesus Christ. Unlike other churches, Catholics believe it is OK to with art, depict religious figures. Many other Christians would disagree. The bible directly says depictions of divinity is wrong. But eh, why care right? It was important to communicate what was in the book. However, reading the bible in a language that isn't latin was controversial for a long time, and it is still a thing for many Catholics to learn latin as part of culture. The division of Lutheran and Catholics came from what was seen as poor translation. However, some believe it was Cathlolic leadership wanting to maintain a stranglehold over the people. Catholics believe in what the pope says is the word of god. So when the pope says don't use condoms, it does mean it is wrong for all Catholics to use condoms. If the next pope changes his mind, well, the word of god changed (and it has!) Catholics unlike many other Christians also believe in Mary's birth without original sin (as in she too was immaculately conceived!) Catholics believe in two kinds of sinning. And this might be why they seem to not be following their own doctrine a lot of the time. Jesus can save you from most of it. Just don't mortally sin against god and confess your shit kay? ;) Examples of mortal sin include murder, idolatry and adultery. What is adultary? voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse. So yeah. LOL fucking everyone. The belief in Purgatory. And Saints in like a godly sense (to the point where it seems like it is mount fucking Olympus) And like cool exorcisms.... oh and rings go on the RIGHT hand not the left. Which is why so many people got SO CONFUSED by Yuri on Ice but we weren't right? ;) The reason why Catholics condemn masturbation and actually a lot of Christians: Masturbation is: Focused on yourself A withholding from your spouse A statement that sex is only about pleasure — your own pleasure Inherently sterile Often accompanied by “adultery in your heart” through pornography and fantasy Any sex act not out to make babies is against the teachings of the church. "Masturbation is radically self-centered, and radically un-Christian. That’s why the Catholic teaching on masturbation says it’s wrong. It turns us and our sexuality away from God and toward ourselves by: Training our sexuality in the habit of self-indulgence, not self-giving Divorcing the pleasure of orgasm from union with the “other”, your spouse Turning away from the risks of loving another Refusing fertility & the full responsibility of sex" Yes. Masturbation is irresponsible according to the teachings. Which is why it is stupid to follow any Christian teaching if you like touching yourself. I grew up in the church. I went to catholic school. I know Masturbation is considered wrong. I know divorce is considered wrong. And I know sex before marriage is considered wrong. And sex with protection is considered wrong. Lately the pope has been saying some things about how it is not the best but it is a world we live in. But still kinda against god as far as I was taught until I left. (Seriously, 18 years of teaching and this guy going to wave it away conveniently is the criticism!) And the fact that the girls you wank it to are not real make it even worse. Sex is seen as a very connected to reality thing and yeah you are being really really selfish wanting pleasure for yourself and committing adultery in your heart. Which is a mortal sin. One which you can never be rid of. |
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Bernrika said: Yes there are many versions of Christianity all of which think they are valid. However, you singled out one of them - Catholics, and then you lumped actual Catholics in with false ones.iLolicon said: If it is a reasonable interpretation, yes. It's usually quite obvious what is and was isn't in accordance to God's nature. The bible does not give as much room for interpretation as you seem to think. There are as many interpretations as there are people, it's why there are 200 versions of Christianity. And they all think they are valid. I'm willing to bet the Christian authorizes think your acts are sinful. Or do you claim to speak for God? |
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Bernrika said: iLolicon said: I have not watched much of Prisma/Illya. Though I do like the art work. Regardless, those lesbians are fictional anime characters. It's more like homophobes like you don't mind lesbians, really. People are not stupid. Again, I have to repeat myself because you struggle to comprehend. I do not fear gay people. I just dislike that they are gay. I don't think you understand either. "Homophobia" is also used to describe the dislike of gay individuals. That's the dictionary definition. Dislike is also more often than not fueled by fear. It's not necessarily your case, but it is often the case. We fear what we don't know or understand. Fine. But in my case, which is what I am specifically talking about, not the wider spectrum, it is not fueled by fear. It is a new word, and I find it ridiculous that it came to that definition as it undermines what a phobia is. |
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Stripesu said: So. Shocking. I mean he held that Pride flag once doesn't that mean he supports the gays. Really. I mean he is almost one of the colors on the flag. Such shock. So shook. |
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iLolicon said: Bernrika said: It's more like homophobes like you don't mind lesbians, really. People are not stupid. I don't think you understand either. "Homophobia" is also used to describe the dislike of gay individuals. That's the dictionary definition. Dislike is also more often than not fueled by fear. It's not necessarily your case, but it is often the case. We fear what we don't know or understand. Fine. But in my case, which is what I am specifically talking about, not the wider spectrum, it is not fueled by fear. It is a new word, and I find it ridiculous that it came to that definition as it undermines what a phobia is. Do you know who Mathew Shepard is? |
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Rotton-Girl said: "At least I'm not a Christian masturbating to [fictional anime] girls." And I am not saying it's wrong to but how would you even know if I masturbated to them? - "is the belief in the divine person of Jesus Christ" Don't make me repeat myself, did you even read what I wrote? believing and following are not the same. And Christianity is not just believing. - Talk smack to little girls? where did you get this idea? stop pulling nonsense out of your ass. - No, individuals who claim to be Catholic but do not fit the definition are corrupt. - You don't even know what the bible says on the matter. You are pulling these "mountains of rules" out of your ass. They don't exist, else you would cite them. Spilling seed was one particular case, and that wasn't the sin, it was disobeying's God direct command. Stop taking it out of context and making me repeat myself. - If a priest disagrees with me that is fine. I maintain that I follow biblical teachings, and there is nothing on masturbating to fictional anime girls if I chose to do so. What am I lying about? - Stop regurgitating the same crap over and over because you fail to comprehend what I've already told you. Are you not proficient in English? How are you not understanding this? Maybe you should get your parents to help explain the post to you, some words must be too difficult for you. I grew up catholic. I left it. I know what they teach. Divorce is considered wrong. Taking birth control is considered wrong. You must believe in the divinity of Mother Mary and Jesus Christ. Unlike other churches, Catholics believe it is OK to with art, depict religious figures. Many other Christians would disagree. The bible directly says depictions of divinity is wrong. But eh, why care right? It was important to communicate what was in the book. However, reading the bible in a language that isn't latin was controversial for a long time, and it is still a thing for many Catholics to learn latin as part of culture. The division of Lutheran and Catholics came from what was seen as poor translation. However, some believe it was Cathlolic leadership wanting to maintain a stranglehold over the people. Catholics believe in what the pope says is the word of god. So when the pope says don't use condoms, it does mean it is wrong for all Catholics to use condoms. If the next pope changes his mind, well, the word of god changed (and it has!) Catholics unlike many other Christians also believe in Mary's birth without original sin (as in she too was immaculately conceived!) Catholics believe in two kinds of sinning. And this might be why they seem to not be following their own doctrine a lot of the time. Jesus can save you from most of it. Just don't mortally sin against god and confess your shit kay? ;) Examples of mortal sin include murder, idolatry and adultery. What is adultary? voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse. So yeah. LOL fucking everyone. The belief in Purgatory. And Saints in like a godly sense (to the point where it seems like it is mount fucking Olympus) And like cool exorcisms.... oh and rings go on the RIGHT hand not the left. Which is why so many people got SO CONFUSED by Yuri on Ice but we weren't right? ;) The reason why Catholics condemn masturbation and actually a lot of Christians: Masturbation is: Focused on yourself A withholding from your spouse A statement that sex is only about pleasure — your own pleasure Inherently sterile Often accompanied by “adultery in your heart” through pornography and fantasy Any sex act not out to make babies is against the teachings of the church. "Masturbation is radically self-centered, and radically un-Christian. That’s why the Catholic teaching on masturbation says it’s wrong. It turns us and our sexuality away from God and toward ourselves by: Training our sexuality in the habit of self-indulgence, not self-giving Divorcing the pleasure of orgasm from union with the “other”, your spouse Turning away from the risks of loving another Refusing fertility & the full responsibility of sex" Yes. Masturbation is irresponsible according to the teachings. Which is why it is stupid to follow any Christian teaching if you like touching yourself. I grew up in the church. I went to catholic school. I know Masturbation is considered wrong. I know divorce is considered wrong. And I know sex before marriage is considered wrong. And sex with protection is considered wrong. Lately the pope has been saying some things about how it is not the best but it is a world we live in. But still kinda against god as far as I was taught until I left. (Seriously, 18 years of teaching and this guy going to wave it away conveniently is the criticism!) And the fact that the girls you wank it to are not real make it even worse. Sex is seen as a very connected to reality thing and yeah you are being really really selfish wanting pleasure for yourself and committing adultery in your heart. Which is a mortal sin. One which you can never be rid of. [/quote] - I've heard that interpretation and understand that the bulk of Christians would disagree. I think otherwise. I try to see the logic behind God's word. As such, I think to myself, why does God not want us to lust after others? Then I imagine my wife lusting after another man. It would make me upset. Then I imagine her lusting after a fictional character. It doesn't bother me at all. God wouldn't just tell us to do anything without reason, I try to see it, and that is how I arrived at that conclusion. If someone thinks I am a false Christian for that view fine. But I think that I am well with God and at the end of the day it is between me and him. Perhaps those Catholic doctrines were dumbed down for you as a child? Divorce is permitted. As is masturbation. How the fuck do you think priests manage to stay celibate? It is an actual need that the bible does not speak of. |
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I've heard that interpretation and understand that the bulk of Christians would disagree. I think otherwise. I try to see the logic behind God's word. As such, I think to myself, why does God not want us to lust after others? Then I imagine my wife lusting after another man. It would make me upset. Then I imagine her lusting after a fictional character. It doesn't bother me at all. God wouldn't just tell us to do anything without reason, I try to see it, and that is how I arrived at that conclusion. If someone thinks I am a false Christian for that view fine. But I think that I am well with God and at the end of the day it is between me and him. Perhaps those Catholic doctrines were dumbed down for you as a child? Divorce is permitted. As is masturbation. How the fuck do you think priests manage to stay celibate? It is an actual need that the bible does not speak of. I seriously just double checked my understanding from 10 different websites, no, I don't think it was dumbed down. I think you are just believing what you want to believe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxalJi84eeI Vatican itself says: Porn and Masturbation are definitely mortal sins! |
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Rotton-Girl said: I've heard that interpretation and understand that the bulk of Christians would disagree. I think otherwise. I try to see the logic behind God's word. As such, I think to myself, why does God not want us to lust after others? Then I imagine my wife lusting after another man. It would make me upset. Then I imagine her lusting after a fictional character. It doesn't bother me at all. God wouldn't just tell us to do anything without reason, I try to see it, and that is how I arrived at that conclusion. If someone thinks I am a false Christian for that view fine. But I think that I am well with God and at the end of the day it is between me and him. Perhaps those Catholic doctrines were dumbed down for you as a child? Divorce is permitted. As is masturbation. How the fuck do you think priests manage to stay celibate? It is an actual need that the bible does not speak of. I seriously just double checked my understanding from 10 different websites, no, I don't think it was dumbed down. I think you are just believing what you want to believe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxalJi84eeI Vatican itself says: Porn and Masturbation are definitely mortal sins! Porn is a sin, the masturbation is not. I am protestant not Catholic but I know that divorce and masturbation is permitted within the Catholic church. The Catholic church does however teach that masturbating WHILE THINKING OF ANOTHER WITH LUST is wrong. |
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spuukiebuugi said: Realistically all extremists are just big baby keyboard warriors saying "U DONT DESERVE RIGHTS" I live in a state with a loooot of southern baptists & I think they promote an extremely toxic mindset, unfortunately they tend to be the majority here. I don't remember seeing as many extremist episcopalians in comparison when I was younger, baptists are usually the worst offenders. And Catholics. Other denominations are less extreme. Not to say that each sect doesn't have its own extremists, who bastardize religion through and through. It's unfortunately a part of religion, there'll always be extremist ideologies within every religion. on the contrary my ex boyfriend was a Christian who really didn't give a fuck, he saw the bible as figurative as supposed to literal and could care less about abortion or LGBT rights, he said that there's no point in judging people off the basis of that shit. His family was a bit too religious at times for my liking, but their church (which I was dragged to once in order to impress his mom) to me definitely wasn't the "hellfire and brimstone" kind that perpetuated the "you're going to hell if you aren't a moral saint" mindset. Now I don't particularly like the idea of sitting in a pew with my eyes rolling into the back of my head for two hours, so church services are nothing short of awful to me no matter how lax the pastor is, but it's a very unfortunate fact that the zealots do seem to outnumber the nice Christians because even though I really don't like identifying with religion, nor do I ever want to bore myself to tears in church again, I don't think all denominations of Christianity are oppressive, it's just the hellfire and brimstone ones who dominate the scene in a lot of US (most often Bible Belt or southern) states who are repugnant and often, unfortunately draw the most people. I guess that's fair. My views on religion are pretty extremely negative. Not all of them are the worst, but by default they are pretty bad to me. |
Hias said: I am not a hypocrite. I explained my position multiple times. It's not my fault that you lack the ability to comprehend basic English. Though I do pity you. I am not downplaying anything. I made it abundantly clear that I dislike gays, I cannot change them, but I am free to dislike them. Or are you not a supporter of basic human rights? such as having opposing views. iLolicon said: It is a mental illness. What kind of stuff do I watch? That word is new and doesn't make any sense. A phobia is something that you are afraid of. I am not afraid of gay people I just don't like that they are gay. A lolicon accusing other people of having a mental illness. My fucking sides. Also I hate it when people claim they're not homophobic, but in the same sentence claim that it's wrong, or gross. You try to downplay it, but acting like it's wrong or that it's a mental disease IS homophobic. Bernrika is right, you're full of shit and a complete hypocrite. And you just put it in the same sentence. My fucking sides. |
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iLolicon said: Rotton-Girl said: I seriously just double checked my understanding from 10 different websites, no, I don't think it was dumbed down. I think you are just believing what you want to believe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxalJi84eeI Vatican itself says: Porn and Masturbation are definitely mortal sins! Porn is a sin, the masturbation is not. I am protestant not Catholic but I know that divorce and masturbation is permitted within the Catholic church. No it is not. https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2017/06/22/four-cardinals-press-pope-francis-clarify-divorce-remarriage-stand/ "makes it clear that marriage is forever" Show forgiveness... but marriage is forever. And let me tell you, of course everyone has a different opinion. But note how people higher up in the church always see it as at least a psychotic thing to do? "Fr. John F. Harvey: "So often the habit of masturbation becomes compulsive, that is to say, the person is not able to control masturbatory activity in spite of great efforts to do so. Usually such a person is lacking in insight and needs therapy in conjunction with spiritual direction." 1 E. Michael Jones: "The struggle with the temptation to masturbate is the smithy in which adolescents form their character. They either learn how to control themselves, with all that that entails, or they do not, with all of the self-loathing projected as hatred of authority which that entails. Masturbation is, in a sense, the root sexual evil first of all from a developmental point of view -- it is the child's introduction to sexual sinning -- but also because all other sexual sinning is at its root masturbatory." 2 Pope Paul VI: "... masturbation is an intrinsically and seriously disordered act...the deliberate use of the sexual faculty outside normal conjugal relations essentially contradicts the finality of the faculty. For it lacks the sexual relationship called for by the moral order, namely the relationship which realizes 'the full sense of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love.' All deliberate exercise of sexuality must be reserved to this regular relationship." 3 Email we received from a member of the Catholic laity: I don't see any problem with masturbation, in spite of what the church teaches. I am a single, heterosexual male who does not have a girlfriend at this time. Masturbation feels good. It does not detract from any relationship that I am involved in. It helps me understand how my body reacts to sexual stimulation that will come in handy later in my life. It lowers my chances of developing prostate cancer. i don't see it becoming an addiction. I just do not see any negatives." Pretty much. And teaching girls that it is sin is nothing new. Because if they masturbate they take their own virginity and that would be bad. XD Oh and some Protestant groups DEFINITELY see Masturbation as worse than being gay. If you wank to your wife, sure, you MIGHT be OK. But wanking it to cartoons, probably not OK. |
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