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Sep 26, 2017 7:41 PM
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Not as in Romance animes or animes where romance is needed to drive the plot forward. Romance animes are a completely different topic.

I'm talking about animes (fantasy, action, horror etc..) where romance is included but has no effect on the main story (not a specific anime, just anime in general). Or animes where the main story would do well without romance included.

Do you think it is just a distraction? Are you actually ok with it? Do you mind it with/ without fanservice? Do you think it helps with character development or makes the character(s) feel more realistic? Do you think romance, where it is not needed, is actually necessary?

What is your opinion on this?
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It would help if you had examples cause I can't think of an anime where there was romance and it was unnecessary.
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Sep 26, 2017 7:46 PM
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You mean like Jon Snow fucked Daenerys at the end of the season 7 finale even though they literally have 0 chemistry? Then yes.
Sep 26, 2017 7:54 PM
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At the very least, it shows that the characters "live their life". Even when it's simply mentioned while never being illustrated.
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Elegade said:
It would help if you had examples cause I can't think of an anime where there was romance and it was unnecessary.


Yeah, I'm having a hard time thinking what you're talking about as well. I think in general romance can definitely help a viewer feel more of a connection with the show even if it's main focus isn't romance. It makes it a bit more believable and the characters more relatable

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Sep 26, 2017 8:02 PM
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Necessary? No

If a proper romance hasn't been built up in the story, throwing one in there randomly is stupid. It CAN work as part of a larger story that isn't primarily a romance, but the author has to think that shit through beforehand so that it ends up legit.
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Sep 26, 2017 8:03 PM
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Depends on how the romance is done. But normally no it rarely detracts from the shows quality to me.
Sep 26, 2017 8:04 PM
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I just think it shows how the characters are human (๑╹ω╹๑ ). Romance can also be a filler if the writers don't know what to write. If it's an action anime it can add to the drama and if it's a fantasy anime it can make the plot more interesting. Personally I don't prefer fan service, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .... we can all tolorate a little every once in a while ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Necessary? Of course not. In fact I find a lot of fantasy/action authors suck at writing a romance, but still do anyway which just soaks up screen time for something that is bad anyway.

However, it probably is an attempt to get more people hooked to the series or some people to be hooked to the series for multiple reasons. Teasing a romance once in a while, get more people on board, carry on most of the fantasy/action as per normal and end it with them getting together. Gives them a shot for a more diverse fanbase and mainstream popularity, but makes it worse for people who want to watch the show for reasons other than the (often badly written) romance.
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Sep 26, 2017 8:37 PM
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I'd argue it Is best in shows where it isn't particularly central to the plot. When a show is driven by a romance-centric plot, it tends to throw needless and frustrating drama into the relationship. That's not to say I don't ever enjoy a romance anime now and then, but I think it is better used to support a show and add an additional dimension to it
Sep 26, 2017 8:54 PM

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Elegade said:
It would help if you had examples cause I can't think of an anime where there was romance and it was unnecessary.


In FMAB the romance was unnecessary. No need of it at all. You can remove it and you do no harm to the show.
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Necessary, no. But if handled well it could enhance the show pretty well. Tbh, considering how romance is handled in most romance-focused anime I saw I actually prefer it mixed with other genres.

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Elegade said:
It would help if you had examples cause I can't think of an anime where there was romance and it was unnecessary.


In FMAB the romance was unnecessary. No need of it at all. You can remove it and you do no harm to the show.
There was romance in FMAB?
Sep 26, 2017 9:40 PM

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No, but normally people will expect some.
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icecream_iscream said:
I'm talking about animes (fantasy, action, horror etc..) where romance is included but has no effect on the main story (not a specific anime, just anime in general). Or animes where the main story would do well without romance included.
Lol you've basically just answered your own question, OP. It's as you say, if it has not effect on the main story, or if the main plot is already successful without any romance, then no, it is not necessary.. it doesn't get any simpler than that.

As for my guilty pleasure, yes, I love romance and regardless of whether or not it is done properly, I will still enjoy it, to some extent (of course, preferably if it is done correctly, as in not forced and what not). I like seeing couples form, and I like seeing romance blossom and flourish. And you can judge me all you want on this bc i like what i like.

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There was romance in FMAB?


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I mean if it adds positives to the series itself, I'm all for it.
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Sep 26, 2017 10:07 PM
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I do not think romance is necessary for a show to be good; my problem is most anime do not know what romance is. To elaborate, romance is when the couple is already in a relationship and we both characters go through the good and bad of a relationship. As for most anime, they are mostly flirting and having high jinks with one another. Then at the end of the show the characters form a relationship but the series is already over. Overall, I have no problem for romance in a show it just have to fit with the show and be an actual romance.
Sep 26, 2017 10:33 PM

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Actually not necessary but sometimes romance can make the show better if used properly
Sep 26, 2017 10:34 PM

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It's too often "unnecessarily tacked on." So no, but it does help viewership in most cases (because people have shit taste).
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It's not always necessary, but romance can certainly add to series, if it's done correctly.

For example, romance may not have been needed in Beck, but it was done well.


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I personally like romance and I appreciate it when they have good romance in the show even if it doesn't require it. When anime have single gender casts I also expect the romance to be gay, which it usually is (very surprised Aikatsu Stars actually has some hetero romance, although it doesn't show it too frequently).
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Sep 26, 2017 11:31 PM

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Romance is unnecessary, from where I stand. I came to that conclusion after romance ruined so many series that were promising to be really decent. Of course, there are shows where romance is a very nice and enriching bonus, but reality is the number of shows crippled or ruined by forced and crappy romances is incomparably greater than the number of those where it was done right, benefiting the plot instead of derailing it.
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10 years ago romance is the thing but now Ive barely seen any romance at all. Nope I dont count recent so called romance where the mc doesnt give it a conclusion. I just stopped caring since no anime studos nowadays uses romance as a main genre aside from trash ecchi or isekais.
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Sep 27, 2017 1:37 AM

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well, most people experience romantic attraction, most anime are about people, and most people want realistic people in their cartoons
Sep 27, 2017 1:37 AM

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i like some good romance as a subplot
but no , romance is not necessary
you can have a great story without any romance
Sep 27, 2017 1:37 AM

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It is OP, many great things can be as good without romance.

But that was once now its just trash all.

nymi said:
10 years ago romance is the thing but now Ive barely seen any romance at all. Nope I dont count recent so called romance where the mc doesnt give it a conclusion. I just stopped caring since no anime studos nowadays uses romance as a main genre aside from trash ecchi or isekais.

The romance in today's meaning in Nippon means "throw as many hot chicks at retarded male MC as possible" and lets call it a romance.
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It is OP, many great things can be as good without romance.

But that was once now its just trash all.

nymi said:
10 years ago romance is the thing but now Ive barely seen any romance at all. Nope I dont count recent so called romance where the mc doesnt give it a conclusion. I just stopped caring since no anime studos nowadays uses romance as a main genre aside from trash ecchi or isekais.

The romance in today's meaning in Nippon means "throw as many hot chicks at retarded male MC as possible" and lets call it a romance.


Yup basically romance turned to harem genre. That is the evolution of romance. I miss the times when we have some quality romance like toradora, clannad, kanon, ef just to name a few. Oh well, I got trash to finish later im just gonna shitpost for now. Lol
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Sep 27, 2017 1:42 AM

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No. It more optional rather than necessary.
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Romances and romantic tensions as a side-story are my absolute favorite thing, especially in fantasy, while shit is going on. X3 I mean, I'm so weak for that, I can't get enough of these story lines. XD

The problem with many SOL-romances, where the romance is the main plot, are imo that some authors come up with forced drama to fill the 12-24 episodes, because they actually have not enough (or they don't have any lol) plot for so many chapters or episides.
Then they come up with the "bitch, who is prettier and more popular than me AND bullied me, tries to steal my boy"-drama for a few episodes for example. I absolutely hate that cliche with passion. XD I liked Orange, but it was also guilty of it.
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nymi said:
Swagernator said:
It is OP, many great things can be as good without romance.

But that was once now its just trash all.


The romance in today's meaning in Nippon means "throw as many hot chicks at retarded male MC as possible" and lets call it a romance.


Yup basically romance turned to harem genre. That is the evolution of romance. I miss the times when we have some quality romance like toradora, clannad, kanon, ef just to name a few. Oh well, I got trash to finish later im just gonna shitpost for now. Lol


Couple of years ago we got Your Lie in April. And while it's not everybody's cup of tea, I personally liked it, there was Plastic Memories as well. I think you guys are just focusing on the harems and ignoring what does come out as romance
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neonshock said:
Elegade said:
It would help if you had examples cause I can't think of an anime where there was romance and it was unnecessary.


In FMAB the romance was unnecessary. No need of it at all. You can remove it and you do no harm to the show.

The romance there was essential in providing a better ending for the show. It just goes to show that Ed is still a winner at the end of the day by being re-united with Al and by marrying the girl he's always had a crush on.

His liking towards Winry was totally justified as she ended up being a sister figure to him during his childhood years.
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its like icing on the cake that its a bonus/extra content
Sep 27, 2017 2:58 AM
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yes... because if the creators want it there and theres ppl that like it, it should be there
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Romance is unnecessary, from where I stand. I came to that conclusion after romance ruined so many series that were promising to be really decent. Of course, there are shows where romance is a very nice and enriching bonus, but reality is the number of shows crippled or ruined by forced and crappy romances is incomparably greater than the number of those where it was done right, benefiting the plot instead of derailing it.

I think the possible pros that comes from adding romance to a series outweighs the cons, i'm talking bringing in potential viewers with a genre as widespread as romance. Now that I think about it, I can't really think of many series completely ruined with a bad romance, at most, I see unneeded romance side plots, but it's not like I've seen everything anime has to offer.


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Sep 27, 2017 3:32 AM

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It's good for an anime having a romance but not too much like the anime is focused on romance.
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yes.. it's the perfect excuse to bring cute girls on screen
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I can't think of any instances where the romance sub-plot wasn't beneficial. I mean sometimes it's the only good thing about a show that keeps me watching it. Other than when it was badly executed this is, but that's a separate issue.
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It's not necessary, but I like shipping characters XD


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Is romance necessary? No

Do people like anime with a little of romance? Yes

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I agree that you should've added some examples but by what I've gotten, I'd say it's not "necessary" but it's appreciated.

Shipping characters is fun. Especially when the MC deserves (I can't think of another word) a relationship.
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If it's shoehorned in without any sort of prior build up (like it tends to be a lot of the time) then no
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No it's not it's just some dumb thing everyone tries to fit in. It make sense that a character could experience and develop romance but it's not necessary. Especially in movies in the west when there's that forced sex scene in the middle that feels awkward af.
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You mean like Jon Snow fucked Daenerys at the end of the season 7 finale even though they literally have 0 chemistry? Then yes.
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Sep 27, 2017 6:30 AM

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This post made me think of SAO; definitely was not necessary to have the romance aspect in that series.
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Romance is human nature. Without it some anime arent quite as realistic.

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