Baman said: And the gameplay, uh, what gameplay? The battles are all about pounding x (and occasionally use a potion) and the exploration and puzzles are whisked away completely. lol what a pathetic reason. MW2 is all about pounding LT and RT, need for Speed is all about pounding RT and other games are all about moving Left Stick. |
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CapellaStar said: frostReturns said: Baman said: And the gameplay, uh, what gameplay? The battles are all about pounding x (and occasionally use a potion) and the exploration and puzzles are whisked away completely. lol what a pathetic reason. MW2 is all about pounding LT and RT, need for Speed is all about pounding RT and other games are all about moving Left Stick. I think you are missing the point. Most FF games require a little bit more difficulty then pressing the "easy" button to win a battle. In XIII all you have to do is press the x button and it does all of the command combination for you. The only thing you have to worry about is switching paradigms at the right moment. That's hardly gameplay. I haven't played MW2 or Need for Speed but I assume like with most FPS games and racing games, some amount of skill is required and that it doesn't do most the aiming and driving for you. Auto-aim? Green path on the ground? |
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| I'm almost finishing the game and so far I don't understand alot. If you like the battle system then you should play this game till the end but for me I found it quite boring and despite being in the last level, I dropped it. Oh, and who hated Vanille? |
| Im playin it on the xbox and I just finished the first disc but I dropped it. It's way to linear and I think the story is very boring. I also dislike Vanille and Hope. |
| There Is A Light That Never Goes Out |
| At chapter 4 I thought the game kinda sucked but now, at chapter 9, thirty-seven odd hours in, the game seems a lot more fun :P Battle system becomes more complex and therefore fun, as the story develops the characters become more likeable, and the whole thing becomes less linear and more classic RPG action. Oh, and the music in this game is actually brilliant. Everything about it has grown on me - I commented ages ago pointing out everything about the game that sucked, but not now. Everyone who disliked the first few chapters should keep on playing, I'd say - there's a lot more to the game than you first realise... ^-^ |
frostReturns said: Exactly.I think you are missing the point. Most FF games require a little bit more difficulty then pressing the "easy" button to win a battle. In XIII all you have to do is press the x button and it does all of the command combination for you. The only thing you have to worry about is switching paradigms at the right moment. That's hardly gameplay. I haven't played MW2 or Need for Speed but I assume like with most FPS games and racing games, some amount of skill is required and that it doesn't do most the aiming and driving for you. Hell, people complained about XII, but there at least you got a strategic element as you customized the Gambits to whatever situation or tactic you wanted, so when you watched the battles play themselves, you knew YOU were the one who had planned it all out. XIII on the other hand is like a movie where you have to press X sometimes. The battle system does get better after a while when you're finally allowed to actually changed your party and get some slightly more challenging battles, but it's still essentially a glorified rock-paper-scissors system, with some classes, like the Sentinel, being essentially useless in all but some very specific situations. And the silly story based level cap on the Crysta-wotzit thing is rather pointless and stupid. Oh, and the whole upgrading weapons thing is a bloody joke. Up till chapter 10, I've only gotten enough loot to fully upgrade two weapons. What the hell is the deal with that? Did they somehow think we might as well wait till the end of the game to start with it? I've been reading the guides and seen that there's apparently a lot of stuff to be done with making new weapons and whatnot, but this is pathetically poor planning from SE's side by not actually utilizing it properly throughout the majority of the game. The story still hardly manages to interest me at all. The characters are still too generic and trite to be worth caring about, and when it's all more or less character melodrama in all those cutscenes, I might as well skip them all. Hell, I knew that emo brat blamed heroman for his mother's death from the first time he said it, no need showing me twenty more cutscenes with it. The painfully linear and exploration/interaction less "gameplay" also helps to sap the story. How am I supposed to care about the fate of Cocoon when I have hardly even seen anything of it? I don't get to explore the cities, talk to the people or familiarize myself with the world outside the short codex descriptions. For such a seemingly elaborate setting they've made, it's a shame they wont even let the players explore it at all. No attachment to the world or characters doesn't make for a very interesting ride. And then you have the party needlessly splitting up and wandering aimlessly for so many contrived reasons, only to make the otherwise easy battles more challenging since you only have two members, and in so doing, boost the playtime with another hour or two. It feels like they calculated it all out when they made it, and threw in more drawn out fights and unnecessarily long areas just to hit some 40 hour average mark or whatnot. Most of the areas are terribly bland, even ignoring the linearity. I thought FF XII was bad for forcing me to walk endless walkways suspended amongst trees, and this time, it's just the same but even more boring. Granted, the Fifth Ark seems rather nice so far, but that's bloody late to start amending the crappy level design. With the tutorials popping up all the time and the usually terribly easy battles, this game gives me the same sort of feel stuff like Avatar, Advent Children and Code Geass does; that it's just a bunch of flashy graphics and melodrama thrown together in a neat package to sell as much as possible, rather than genuinely trying to tell a story. At least it goes to show that spending a lot of time and money to make something clearly has nothing to do with it's quality. I just went through Infinite Space and Devil Survivor, and those two (even despite the former's many bugs) were way more enjoyable and engrossing in every way than FF XIII has been so far. The way things are shaping up, this may very well be the worst FF I've played. At least FFX2 was enjoyable at times, despite it's terrible story. I guess it may still pick up, but at 10 of 13 chapters, I'm not going to hold my breath. |
Baman said: I guess it may still pick up, but at 10 of 13 chapters, I'm not going to hold my breath. It picks up in Chapter 11, but two chapters away from the end is still pretty damn unacceptable. |
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Zukin-Man said: Yea, I saw that now. It picks up in Chapter 11, but two chapters away from the end is still pretty damn unacceptable. But somehow, it feels like they just threw in a couple of big areas, some grinding and quests to excuse the linearity of the majority of the game. Now, if Pulse was way bigger, with lots of more different areas that would take as much time as the previous chapters combined, actual quests (other than monster hunting) that see you digging up ruins to learn about the past or somesuch, and with different endings for those who do so (Like, giving you a better ending if you've learned and found all there is, and thus opening up an alternative way to solve the main problems), I'd gladly forget about the previous 10 boring chapters. |
| It is extremely beautiful, I'm lost of words on how beautiful the world is. The color, designs, everything in this game graphical wise is breathtakingly beautiful. Shame though it's too linear and doesn't offer much side contents |
| If by beautiful, you mean the graphics, then yes, they are. But the gameplay needs a little work. Wasn't too fond of the auto-attack thingymajig. |
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Dark_Chaos said: If by beautiful, you mean the graphics, then yes, they are. But the gameplay needs a little work. Wasn't too fond of the auto-attack thingymajig. Me either, so I didn't use it. You don't have to hit auto ya know. |
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| I love the complaint of "you just press X", if you couldn't tell, auto battle was a feature for casual gamers who don't want to actually get the full experience out of the battle system. If you consider yourself a fan of JRPGs and you used auto battle....you should be ashamed. Not saying 13 is perfect, but so much of the hate is just repeating bandwagon nonsense that isn't even true or barely true. |
KingYoshi said: Dark_Chaos said: If by beautiful, you mean the graphics, then yes, they are. But the gameplay needs a little work. Wasn't too fond of the auto-attack thingymajig. Me either, so I didn't use it. You don't have to hit auto ya know. I didn't, but it was still a hassle. In any case, I played the game for the story as story is everything in a game, so I quite enjoyed it myself. |
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Dark_Chaos said: KingYoshi said: Dark_Chaos said: If by beautiful, you mean the graphics, then yes, they are. But the gameplay needs a little work. Wasn't too fond of the auto-attack thingymajig. Me either, so I didn't use it. You don't have to hit auto ya know. I didn't, but it was still a hassle. In any case, I played the game for the story as story is everything in a game, so I quite enjoyed it myself. If you mean it was a hassle because it was set to start at Auto and you had to press down to get to the attacks, you could change that in the menu. I personally think in the very first battle they should have asked you if you wanted to do that. Personally I found FF13s battle system to be awesome. |
TinkleTinkle-Hoy said: Dark_Chaos said: KingYoshi said: Dark_Chaos said: If by beautiful, you mean the graphics, then yes, they are. But the gameplay needs a little work. Wasn't too fond of the auto-attack thingymajig. Me either, so I didn't use it. You don't have to hit auto ya know. I didn't, but it was still a hassle. In any case, I played the game for the story as story is everything in a game, so I quite enjoyed it myself. If you mean it was a hassle because it was set to start at Auto and you had to press down to get to the attacks, you could change that in the menu. I personally think in the very first battle they should have asked you if you wanted to do that. Personally I found FF13s battle system to be awesome. Ahh, never knew that. Yeah, they should have asked at at the beginning, as many other games do that sort of thing :/ |
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| Enjoyable. You are kidding, right. I got one for $3 recently. So far, I'm not impressed. The battle system is shit, it feels like I'm watching cgi movie and bashing one button. The story and characters are awful. Graphics are nice and that's all. I personally like good stories and battle systems which require you to use your brain. I prefer Shin Megami Tensei series over the whole Final Fantasy franchise. |
airidas20th said: I don't understand people who make this complaint. It might be true until you get through the first third of the game, and then you skip all of the missions.Enjoyable. You are kidding, right. I got one for $3 recently. So far, I'm not impressed. The battle system is shit, it feels like I'm watching cgi movie and bashing one button. The story and characters are awful. Graphics are nice and that's all. I personally like good stories and battle systems which require you to use your brain. I prefer Shin Megami Tensei series over the whole Final Fantasy franchise. |
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Dark_Chaos said: You do realize you don't have to use it right? In fact it's to your advantage not to use it because it doesn't always choose the optimal actions.If by beautiful, you mean the graphics, then yes, they are. But the gameplay needs a little work. Wasn't too fond of the auto-attack thingymajig. |
airidas20th said: No offense, but the Shin Megami Tensei games aren't really any more complex than FF, except for maybe Devil Survivor.Enjoyable. You are kidding, right. I got one for $3 recently. So far, I'm not impressed. The battle system is shit, it feels like I'm watching cgi movie and bashing one button. The story and characters are awful. Graphics are nice and that's all. I personally like good stories and battle systems which require you to use your brain. I prefer Shin Megami Tensei series over the whole Final Fantasy franchise. |
airidas20th said: Enjoyable. You are kidding, right. I got one for $3 recently. So far, I'm not impressed. The battle system is shit, it feels like I'm watching cgi movie and bashing one button. The story and characters are awful. Graphics are nice and that's all. I personally like good stories and battle systems which require you to use your brain. I prefer Shin Megami Tensei series over the whole Final Fantasy franchise. I also prefer the SMT games to FF these days, but you clearly played FF13 for 10min and then just stopped and jumped on the bandwagon repeating what everyone else says. Last time I checked not many JRPGs battle systems are all that deep in the first hour or so of the game, although I admit FF13 takes longer then most to fully flesh out(mainly cause it is very different, and the first 7 chapters are basically tutorials). Your loss though. |
| Would have been better if OP didn't edit their post. Cop out, 0/10. More on topic, I didn't think FFXIII was that bad. |
| I liked FFXIII........ |
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