Are shounen animes too kiddy?
smokes said: that doesnt matter actually. well the battles at first are boring, this is actually at All shounen.. they it becomes more serious and intense as they improve their powers and such. -Freedom_Gunboy- said: It is how and why they fight that matters, the result doesn't really matter since everyone knows that main chars won't die(after all it's a shounen). And as for excitement factor, once one piece battles become intense, the feelings that the chars put into fighting become so intense that one watching can't help but be excited, IMO. Perhaps I need to watch more OP. I don't expect consequences from shounen battles so I can't get into shounen as much as I used to. They're just too predictable. |
Splitter said: But defeat seldom mean anything either way, as the looser will just go back to grind some dozen levels and gain a new superskill to win next time. Sure, if someone was utterly defeated and, say, lost his arms or something and would be a cripple for the rest of his life, then that would be another matter entirely.Defeat is much more involving than the simple death of a character, because the character then must live with knowing he is weak in a world where he cannot afford to be weak. |
| Why the hell do people call something like TTGL shounen? It's obviously not. |
-Freedom_Gunboy- said: How, I get. Since it's fun to see an unique system of combat that I've never witnessed before (it's actually why I watch Shounen at all, even though I don't watch any anime anymore). As for why, they pretty much have the same viewpoint everytime (so I personally don't find it very interesting, if at all). It's either "for my friends" or "for myself" or "for my family" or whatever nonsense that people want to shed blood for.stupidfreak said: I can't get into OP because the fights aren't exciting at all. I never worry about the characters because they will always win or survive. Injuries don't matter at all because they just need to slap on some bandages and the character is as good as new. The fights just don't have much impact or excitement because there are no consequences for the main characters. It is how and why they fight that matters, the result doesn't really matter since everyone knows that main chars won't die(after all it's a shounen). And as for excitement factor, once one piece battles become intense, the feelings that the chars put into fighting become so intense that one watching can't help but be excited, IMO. |
Tachii said: As for why, they pretty much have the same viewpoint everytime (so I personally don't find it very interesting, if at all). It's either "for my friends" or "for myself" or "for my family" or whatever nonsense that people want to shed blood for. lol, every action anime has this theme.. protecting others or fighting for betrayal etc.. the thing is how they show the fights and imagination of the author.. |
smokes said: Tachii said: As for why, they pretty much have the same viewpoint everytime (so I personally don't find it very interesting, if at all). It's either "for my friends" or "for myself" or "for my family" or whatever nonsense that people want to shed blood for. lol, every action anime has this theme.. protecting others or fighting for betrayal etc.. the thing is how they show the fights and imagination of the author.. Exactly. The enjoyment of shounen battles comes from how they show the fights. As for the reasons, ya most anime, if not all, have the same theme, protecting someone or sth important. So, basically thats not the shounen's fault. However, I can understand that one might get bored watching long running shounens with repetitive themes if one doesn't enjoy the fights themselves. |
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MRS_FUTOSHI said: i love super powers and comedy xD That is why One Piece = Win =) |
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| Of course they are kiddy. Shounen animes are targetted for a young male audience (8-15 I'm assuming). |
ladyxzeus said: My 7 year old godson loved it, and he can't read subtitles. So yeah, I guess it's kiddy. But he also loves NGE. Ah, and he will also dress up as a Blaziken for Mardi Gras. Kiddy anime is not bad. Is good. They make kids more amazing. |
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Kamehamayhem said: Of course they are kiddy. Shounen animes are targetted for a young male audience (8-15 I'm assuming). /fail. till 18. seinen 18-30 |
| So ur saying that animes like Fullmetal Alchemist,City Hunter are aimed for kids!!!! |
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smokes said: Kamehamayhem said: Of course they are kiddy. Shounen animes are targetted for a young male audience (8-15 I'm assuming). /fail. till 18. seinen 18-30 Not true at all. Shounen are aimed at kids about 7-13 years old. |
Cloud767 said: So ur saying that animes like Fullmetal Alchemist,City Hunter are aimed for kids!!!! Yes, why not. They watch it, they don't need to understand it. I own one, I know how it is. |
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| As for City Hunter kids watch it to learn about Mokkori stuff so it's a fact that aside from Sazae-san and Maroko kiddy animes like One Piece and Dragon ball are the most popular shows in Japan with One Piece dominating the manga world in term of numbers |
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Cloud767 said: As for City Hunter kids watch it to learn about Mokkori stuff so it's a fact that aside from Sazae-san and Maroko kiddy animes like One Piece and Dragon ball are the most popular shows in Japan with One Piece dominating the manga world in term of numbers According to this week, is Tenjou Tengue and Kimi no Todoke instead. |
ladyxzeusJan 28, 2010 11:09 AM
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| Kimi no Todoke is for kids right after all it's aimed at little girls :P |
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| @ladyxseus you really dont know how the manga ratings works x) kimi no todoke is also for little girls) |
smokes said: there are far more serious moments in 'the big 3' shows.. like the human auction in onepiece, dramatic deaths in naruto ( good characters) or many other 'mature' moments http://i46.tinypic.com/r0p2yp.jpg etc etc.. spoiler warning for that pic please. So far, I agree with you. smokes said: Until right there. you do know what the word shounen means do you? The genre isn't called shounen for no reason..shounen is not for kids.. its just avoid 'adult' content unlike seinen... |
Jaapsneep said: It doesn't mean kids toosmokes said: there are far more serious moments in 'the big 3' shows.. like the human auction in onepiece, dramatic deaths in naruto ( good characters) or many other 'mature' moments http://i46.tinypic.com/r0p2yp.jpg etc etc.. spoiler warning for that pic please. So far, I agree with you. smokes said: Until right there. you do know what the word shounen means do you? The genre isn't called shounen for no reason..shounen is not for kids.. its just avoid 'adult' content unlike seinen... |
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Drunk_Samurai said: smokes said: Kamehamayhem said: Of course they are kiddy. Shounen animes are targetted for a young male audience (8-15 I'm assuming). /fail. till 18. seinen 18-30 Not true at all. Shounen are aimed at kids about 7-13 years old. Shounen manga is typically targeted at males aged between 10 and 18, surely its the same for shounen anime? |
| What matters more is who watches it, not the age group it's aimed at... |
ironflowers said: True otherwise the anime world would be ruled by kids :PWhat matters more is who watches it, not the age group it's aimed at... |
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Cloud767 said: ironflowers said: True otherwise the anime world would be ruled by kids :PWhat matters more is who watches it, not the age group it's aimed at... If you're watching wrestling, you'll probably see some similarities. |
Sakuma said: Like?Cloud767 said: ironflowers said: True otherwise the anime world would be ruled by kids :PWhat matters more is who watches it, not the age group it's aimed at... If you're watching wrestling, you'll probably see some similarities. |
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Touka said: Drunk_Samurai said: smokes said: Kamehamayhem said: Of course they are kiddy. Shounen animes are targetted for a young male audience (8-15 I'm assuming). /fail. till 18. seinen 18-30 Not true at all. Shounen are aimed at kids about 7-13 years old. Shounen manga is typically targeted at males aged between 10 and 18, surely its the same for shounen anime? Shounen is usually referred to as young boy. Not young boy and teens. |
| Wikipedia to the rescue. According to Japanese law, the term "shonen" refers to "a person from the time they enter elementary school until the time they are 18 years of age" (Child Welfare Laws (児童福祉法, Jidō Fukushi Hō?), Article 4.3), and "Any person who has not reached the age of 20 years" (Juvenile Law (少年法, Shonen Hō?), Article 2.1). In the realm of education and culture, this is the period of compulsory education. While the term "shonen" can refer to both young males and young females, the generally accepted term for young females is shōjo. |
ironflowers said: Wikipedia to the rescue. According to Japanese law, the term "shonen" refers to "a person from the time they enter elementary school until the time they are 18 years of age" (Child Welfare Laws (児童福祉法, Jidō Fukushi Hō?), Article 4.3), and "Any person who has not reached the age of 20 years" (Juvenile Law (少年法, Shonen Hō?), Article 2.1). In the realm of education and culture, this is the period of compulsory education. While the term "shonen" can refer to both young males and young females, the generally accepted term for young females is shōjo. lol Wikipedia. Thank you come again. |
smokes said: @ladyxseus you really dont know how the manga ratings works x) kimi no todoke is also for little girls) The comment was simply because "omg One Piece is at the top". And it isn't. It has no relation to anything else. And I like stuff for kids. Especially when they are pseudo-gory. |
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| @ladyxzeus you definitely dont know how that weekly manga ratings work dont you ? its because op didnt release the volume in that week. lmao. ps you told that many times.. stop trolling o_O |
smokes said: @ladyxzeus you definitely dont know how that weekly manga ratings work dont you ? its because op didnt release the volume in that week. lmao. ps you told that many times.. stop trolling o_O Stop writing. And I know how they work, there is nothing mysterious about them. I am simply making a statement, if it's so hard to accept it go away. (oh and btw, my 5 year old half-sister likes Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Baman, don't cry.) |
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ladyxzeus said: I-I...(oh and btw, my 5 year old half-sister likes Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Baman, don't cry.) Your half sister must be a discerning young lady of impeccable taste. |
Baman said: Are you... possibly coming on to her sister? Oh you.ladyxzeus said: I-I...(oh and btw, my 5 year old half-sister likes Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Baman, don't cry.) Your half sister must be a discerning young lady of impeccable taste. |
Tachii said: Baman said: Are you... possibly coming on to her sister? Oh you.ladyxzeus said: I-I...(oh and btw, my 5 year old half-sister likes Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Baman, don't cry.) Your half sister must be a discerning young lady of impeccable taste. Sorry to disappoint you, she also likes the disney princesses. But I have great hopes and expectations, as she pays more attention to exploding spaceships than characters talking to each other. And just for you guys to d'awwwww, she distinguishes the characters the following way: Reinhard is the prince, Mittermeyer is the good knight, Oberstein is the bad guy; everyone in the Alliance is the good guys, being Julian Minci the main character (I wonder why she thinks this). Yang Wenli is the Chinese man. We hold great discussions on this and fairy dresses. |
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ladyxzeus said: How coincidental. Exactly along the lines of how I thought when I was watching the show. Except I didn't go as far as putting Julian as the main character, and addressed Yang Wenli as the perfect Chinese role model.Sorry to disappoint you, she also likes the disney princesses. But I have great hopes and expectations, as she pays more attention to exploding spaceships than characters talking to each other. And just for you guys to d'awwwww, she distinguishes the characters the following way: Reinhard is the prince, Mittermeyer is the good knight, Oberstein is the bad guy; everyone in the Alliance is the good guys, being Julian Minci the main character (I wonder why she thinks this). Yang Wenli is the Chinese man. We hold great discussions on this and fairy dresses. |
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Tachii said: ladyxzeus said: How coincidental. Exactly along the lines of how I thought when I was watching the show. Except I didn't go as far as putting Julian as the main character, and addressed Yang Wenli as the perfect Chinese role model.Sorry to disappoint you, she also likes the disney princesses. But I have great hopes and expectations, as she pays more attention to exploding spaceships than characters talking to each other. And just for you guys to d'awwwww, she distinguishes the characters the following way: Reinhard is the prince, Mittermeyer is the good knight, Oberstein is the bad guy; everyone in the Alliance is the good guys, being Julian Minci the main character (I wonder why she thinks this). Yang Wenli is the Chinese man. We hold great discussions on this and fairy dresses. I think it was because she started watching it when Julian & Company went to Earth. Notice that she can't read the subtitles, so she is not really aware what the story is about. :3 |
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