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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Bankai time at last, after Bach's monologuing on the future and hope. What will it do to give Ichigo the advantage? |
| Meh, still not a fan of this fight unless they can surprise us with something. Bankai....I'm not too hyped about this yet. |
Stark700Jun 9, 2016 4:23 AM
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| Ichigo going Bankai at the end. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| Yhwach can see every future but that does not mean he knows what future will come until the last moment it will come? if that is the case there is a delay to the predictive omniscient power of Yhwach, this is just my guess lol Bankai of Ichigo is coming! but i got a feeling next chapter will go back to that Giant Quincy Gerard battle |
| This is very good. It feels like Ichigo's moment where he talked about despair was something that was built up through everything he faced so far and all the times he lost hope(ex: Losing his shinigami powers and his emotional state during FB arc). Its damn refreshing to see Ichigo so calm and confident. I guess with YHWH being able to see all futures, the trick is to have multiple people fighting him, so it simply becomes tricky to keep up - if opponent can see all the movies, the trick is to make sure all the moves he can see lead to his defeat. SO we will most likely escalate to Ichigo, Orihime, Renji and Rukia fighting him at once. Would not be surprised if Orihime ends up landing the killing blow due to her rejection ability and her supposed similarities to hogyoku(which in itself was created to mimic Soul King). |
AhenshihaelJun 9, 2016 3:16 AM
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| Yhwach got serious in this chapter. Wise words were coming from both of them, Ichigo still seems pretty confident though, even after what Yhwach said, cant wait to see what he has up his sleeve AND dat damn Bankai |
joe_g7Jun 10, 2016 5:37 AM
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Not sure why but i thought this was his bankai lol i guess the "not even my final form" applies to good guys as well |
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RileyReid said: Not sure why but i thought this was his bankai lol i guess the "not even my final form" applies to good guys as well I thought so too or not that this is his bankai rather that his new form including all his powers and bankai also, i guess not. |
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| The chapter is full of the enemy's saying with full of confidence with his power. Ichigo's first bankai in his new form? |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| This is what we've been missing in Bleach lately, good old 1v1 sword fights, no Miracles or some other bull. Can't wait to see his Bankai. |
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| Completely forgot that Ichigo has yet to use his bankai. Looking forward to it! |
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RileyReid said: Not sure why but i thought this was his bankai lol i guess the "not even my final form" applies to good guys as well HE also could technically have a second bankai release like Byakuya (since he supposedly mastered it) AND a volstandig on top of that due to quincy side. Juha on other hand still has Yamamoto's bankai and his own volstandig too. Basically they are just starting to get serious. |
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| tbh I didn't even realize he hadn't gone into bankai yet |
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| Bankai already? When will Ichigo show his Quincy abilities? I just hope Ichigo will go Vollstandig later |
 (っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
| Oh great, now Kubo is writing Danganronpa fanfiction. Also there is no way this fight won't end with Ichigo screaming: "I can see every single future... and they're all you losing!!! Yuha Bach!!!" |
Arashi89Jun 9, 2016 9:18 AM
| Bankai eh? This better be good. I hope he won't start shooting arrows if Bankai won't be strong enough~ |
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| Since Ywach's ability is to see ALL possible future paths, his ability invokes the mathematical problem called the "Halting problem". Why? Because then, he would be able to see a future, where his power is nonexistent, which is not possible. Because of this, he has an incredible weakness. Also since he sees each grain individually and Ichigo is someone who is part of each race in Bleach it isnt difficult for Ichigo to merge all his power into one. Ywach may have a counter for one of Ichigo's ability but there might be a possibility that he cant against Ichigo's combined strength and also that Reni and Rukia can possibly change the outcome since Ywach havent taken them into account as yet. Someone mentioned a comment in some group that I find interesting as well. The future cannot possibly change it is just changing into another path that has already been foreseen. So Ywach knows which direction IChigo will choose base on his present actions. Since this involve Present and future the past might have an effect on Ywach. So the fullbringers that have recently joined the holy war may be the key to helping Ichigo out. SInce Tsukishima had the power book of the end he has the ability to change one's past so porbably this can change the future as well. But I believe it is least likely. |
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| Is he still unable to do that reishi flying shit? |
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| Nice moves Yhwach :) Yhwach with the monologue and prep talk, I think he wants Ichigo to win and give him all his power and memories. That way the son will follow his father's footstep and oppose the shinigami/soul king. |
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| Another freaking power-up for Ichigo??? |
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Fai said: This is very good. It feels like Ichigo's moment where he talked about despair was something that was built up through everything he faced so far and all the times he lost hope(ex: Losing his shinigami powers and his emotional state during FB arc). Its damn refreshing to see Ichigo so calm and confident. I guess with YHWH being able to see all futures, the trick is to have multiple people fighting him, so it simply becomes tricky to keep up - if opponent can see all the movies, the trick is to make sure all the moves he can see lead to his defeat. SO we will most likely escalate to Ichigo, Orihime, Renji and Rukia fighting him at once. Would not be surprised if Orihime ends up landing the killing blow due to her rejection ability and her supposed similarities to hogyoku(which in itself was created to mimic Soul King). Inoue has that one spirit she used only once or twice. She used it once to split that one hollow at the start and second time yami broke it. She might have found a way to use it. One way could be to split part of Bach that sees the future. Another would be to use it on Ichigo and split him in two or just his mind. This could confuse Bach almighty and land Ichigo a good few hits. One split Ichigo could be shinigami+hollow with their full power up transformation and the other is Quincy with all its bonuses and power ups. |
| Yhwach isn't as impressive as I thought he would be with the SK. |
| That moment when a Bleach chapter is more enjoyable than a HxH chapter. LOL |
| I can't wait to see the new bankai! Hopefully we'll see something other than Getsuga Tenshou as well. Let's hope it doesn't skip to another char next week lol. |
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Klad said: That moment when a Bleach chapter is more enjoyable than a HxH chapter. LOL One Piece has been better than both these past two months. Lotsa powerups coming. Who is left from the Quincy underlings? Can't remember anymore so the guy Kyoraku was still alive, Thor is still alive, Ishidas opponent, who else is left? Okay chapter saw the Bankai coming. Awaiting Voldtig release XD |
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| after reading the chapter, and seeing the taalk about many possible future i can't help but remember kara no kyoukai's mirai fukuin. |
| Felt nothing at this chapter... even the "ban-kai" shout was kinda too sudden and meh... oh well XD |
| Can someone tell me on how can I feel excited for this fight? :( Didn't Ichigo got owned by that Sternritter Askin Nakk Le Vaar and got away with it easily? I mean the fight against the poison guy showed that Ichigo has many limitations to his ability. Add to that, Yhwach gave our main character the chance to build up his hollow powers by 'savoring' the moments first. I've been trying to feel thrilled watching Ichigo and Yhwach fight for the past several chapters since this is supposed to be the biggest battle so far but I still feel that this fight is bland. Even if Kubo tries to give me surprises here and there, it would still be difficult for me to get a strong feeling. I'm still waiting for an unexpected twist that can crush this boring run for me. |
EricJun 10, 2016 3:17 AM
 At least justify your opinions instead of just saying "it's my opinion". It would've been more polite. |
| lets see how badass this form will be |
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| If this was the Soul Society arc Ichigo going Banki would be hyped but it isn't. This is most likely the last arc and "Banki" has lost its appeal. The Gran Rey Cero was cool last chapter but it was so out of character for Ichigo. Even the way Ichigo was thinking in this chapter it's like he has turned into someone else. |
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kamijoan said: Totally feel you on this one. I walked away with a similar feeling after this chapter.Felt nothing at this chapter... even the "ban-kai" shout was kinda too sudden and meh... oh well XD |
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Viz said: Uhm well let's just say that Askin's certainly had the intelligence to beat Ichigo. It's like when Zaraki rushes to kill Pernida and he gets wrecked pretty fast due to his recklessness. Thanks for that..I didn't think about that since I assumed that Ichigo would have no problem against Sternritters after he pwned the 4 Sternritter girls. Kubo shouldn't have made Ichigo lose that easily against Askin even if Askin is an elite guard. It was a huge let down for me. And if that was not enough, Yhwach gave Ichigo a chance to build up his hollow powers so that he can fight Ichigo with his true powers afterwards. What the heck? If Yhwach loses, I'll not be satisfied so much. The last battle that gave me so much fun was the Mayuri vs. Pernida fight. Mayuri's victory is the best moment for me in this arc. I doubt that Ichigo will get the same deserving victory as Mayuri. I'm still waiting for a miracle from Kubo. |
At least justify your opinions instead of just saying "it's my opinion". It would've been more polite. |
kiddscoop said: OH MY GOD BANKAI WOOO. The Bankai was hyped with the pep talk. A week is so far away... Finally we get to see the new Bankai. |
 Fake people have an image to maintain. Real people just don’t care. |
summary of the chapter |
Stay in yesterday 時を止めて |
| We going full DanganRonpa nao. |
ColdJesterJun 17, 2016 1:53 AM
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| Just one word..... BAN...KAI!!!!! I never expect to see Bankai so early. 4.2/5 |
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| I can't believe I am going to say this, but Bach is even worse than Aizen was. That transformation is stupid as fuck and he can't stop babbling. At least Aizen had reasons for his babbling, it was in his character. This guy is doing it just because Kubo can't think of an original character. |
| Ad Astra Per Aspera |
| Finally somebody said it lol : |
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| So many traps, Yhwach doesn't need them. |
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| Bach's monologue followed by Ichigo's bankai, that was freaking cool for once |
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