Nayrael said: To be perfectly honest, most of these are Visual Novels which are only technically games. They are more like novels. Regular video games are less often successful (and VN's themselves fail more often than not). Also, some like Gungrave sucked when they reached the parts from the game and shone when they weer in original material. Yeah, but what it gets adapted in a anime is not gameplay, is the story. And Japanese games are well known for something: rich storylines. So it doesn't really matter if they are VN's. Also, from what I saw, Tales of Zestiria X has some VN elements too. |
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Nayrael said: At time when FSN was released, Visual Novels could barely sell without sex scenes. If you wanted to make a VN, you needed to have them, otherwise the risk of failure grows rapidly. Typemoon, which was a new company at the time, was not about to take the risk. Nowadays, they cut out the sex scenes from new releases. Not to mention that FSN's success as a story was one of main reasons why non-eroge VN's became a thing. With that all said, having sex scenes does not make something a porno game, unless you are a Mormon or some other fanatical Christian/Muslim who thinks that having a little sex in a story makes you porn.  kronopy said: Really? NEVER!!? Outstanding: Fate Stay Night, Stein;Gate, Clannand, Air, Persona, Kannon, ef: A Tale of Memories, Gungrave... Decent Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, Little Busters, Tales of the Abyss, Danganronpa, Sengoku Basara , Senjou no Valkyria, Layton Kyouju to Eien no Utahime, etc. (any many other adaptations that some of us really enjoyed). Shows like Pokemon, Yu Gi Oh, and Digimon, that where and are very popular betwen the young ones. Everything I slashed out is either a visual novel, which, like the post I quote below states, are NOT video games. Yugioh was also a manga, anime series, and card game before it was a video game? To be perfectly honest, most of these are Visual Novels which are only technically games. They are more like novels. Regular video games are less often successful (and VN's themselves fail more often than not). @kronopy Video game adaptations have a track record like the Cleveland Browns. You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise. @Nayrael like I said, not often to find real Fate defenders out there ;) |
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| @lawlmartz "Video game adaptations have a track record like the Cleveland Browns. You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise." for someone who has watched less than 90 TV series how can you make such a bold claim? |
moodie said: @lawlmartz "Video game adaptations have a track record like the Cleveland Browns. You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise." for someone who has watched less than 90 TV series how can you make such a bold claim? We found the Browns fan, guys. Go ahead, tout those four championships like they mean something |
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lawlmartz said: Doesnt answer my question. You barely watched much anime let alone video game adaptions so why are you making bold claims?moodie said: @lawlmartz "Video game adaptations have a track record like the Cleveland Browns. You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise." for someone who has watched less than 90 TV series how can you make such a bold claim? We found the Browns fan, guys. Go ahead, tout those four championships like they mean something |
moodie said: lawlmartz said: Doesnt answer my question. You barely watched much anime let alone video game adaptions so why are you making bold claims?We found the Browns fan, guys. Go ahead, tout those four championships like they mean something You apparently have not read the original post I made, and you make the poor assumption that I my statement applies purely to anime. |
| How to fix the review section, detailed here The average reader (HS level) reads at about 200 WPM. So a 500-800 word review should take 3-5 minutes to read. That's an acceptable length for something you're interested in spending 25 minutes to 4.5 hours of your life watching. Oh, and ANN requires any and all reviews to be 800-1200 words, no matter the length of the show. |
lawlmartz said: moodie said: Doesnt answer my question. You barely watched much anime let alone video game adaptions so why are you making bold claims? You apparently have not read the original post I made, and you make the poor assumption that I my statement applies purely to anime. So are you going to answer my question? BTW ur original post is nonsense as well. But heres my question again. You barely watched much anime let alone video game adaptions so why are you making bold claims? Ur basing ur argument on wiki? Thats an instant fail if you tried to persuade me in college. |
| the art looks crisp as heck tho. will give it a chance |
| I'll try being optimistic for once because Ufotable did some pretty good adaptations... I haven't played the game so I can't compare to the story but at least it's gonna have great animation... right? |
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blademan729 said: Honestly i feel Zesteria the X has the best animation in a Ufotable animation since the release of UBW . The reason its being made is bandai namco is paying them to make the anime based on their 20th anniversary title its not so blasphemous of them to think of this idea. And to be honest your kind of judging a book on its cover Tales of Eternia was an amazing game with a terrible anime where as Symphonia was a good game with a good anime . All game to anime adaptations are not failures the company and animation studio just need to know what they are doing. Also Zesteria X has gotten many good reviews from the showing on the 25th. As for the "most hated game" it was not hated for the story it was hated for the horrible passing and camera angles so I say give the anime a chance. It did have camera issues and weird pacing, but it was hated for several parts of the story too, though they're some specific things that they can be fixed for the anime adaptation |
lawlmartz said: Incorrect. UBW is from Fate Stay Night, which is a porno game. While I'll admit it's probably one of the better porno game adaptations alongside Key stuff, it's still a porno game. It's still a video game, though. |
zaidk said: Haha...totally The funnier thing is that the animes from ufotable can be counted on fingers! Some ovas for tales of series Fate/series God eater The garden of sinners And some other I forgot (maybe one or two) And I'm sure zestiria will fail you forgot Gyo.. One of the most terrible OVAs of this decade |
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| Just gonna say that comic book movies were considered the black sheep of the medium for a long time, but recently have been some of the biggest movies to come out ever, with vast fan bases and people praising it to the heavens. There's no reason video game movies (or anime) can't follow the same path sometime in the future, and I am glad that people are still trying to make it happen. That being said, the story for this game was less than stellar to say the least. I just hope this isn't a quick cash-grab to promote Tales of Zestiria and the upcoming Berseria. From rumors I've heard, the story is going to be told differently in this anime. Not sure if that's false or not, but I'm hopeful for this being at least decent regardless. |
EternalSerenityJul 1, 2016 9:59 PM
| isn't ufotable the studio that does the cgi movies of the tales of games or something ? |
| Visual novels aren't real video games, so they don't count, pplz. |
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| God eater was bad but it managed to pull itself somehow.As for this one I'd wait for a few more episodes before I cast that vote on whether its crap or not.Played the game and yes its not that good but not really that bad either. |
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| There is no point of blaming studios for adapting shitty games. They only do their jobs to make money - they are paid regardless of sales, these go to owners of IP. |
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lawlmartz said: Did ufotable not learn their lesson with God Eater? Video game adaptations are never a good idea. What is ufotable's problem? Does anyone actually want this (Yes, I do recognize that these decisions are made entirely by men in suits, not consumer demand or lack thereof) I thought God Eater was amazing. There is quite a lot of people who would have to disagree with you on this one. Those men in suits must know what they are doing ;) |
Predit0r773 said: lawlmartz said: Did ufotable not learn their lesson with God Eater? Video game adaptations are never a good idea. What is ufotable's problem? Does anyone actually want this (Yes, I do recognize that these decisions are made entirely by men in suits, not consumer demand or lack thereof) I thought God Eater was amazing. There is quite a lot of people who would have to disagree with you on this one. Those men in suits must know what they are doing ;) What was "amazing" about it? How amazingly terrible it was? |
| How to fix the review section, detailed here The average reader (HS level) reads at about 200 WPM. So a 500-800 word review should take 3-5 minutes to read. That's an acceptable length for something you're interested in spending 25 minutes to 4.5 hours of your life watching. Oh, and ANN requires any and all reviews to be 800-1200 words, no matter the length of the show. |
| My personal opinion, everything about this anime was amazing. If it was terrible you would think the 59k people who watched and voted on this anime would reflect it. Looks like the average consumer enjoyed this anime. You are just one of the odd man out and that is perfectly fine everyone has their own opinion. |
Predit0r773 said: My personal opinion, everything about this anime was amazing. If it was terrible you would think the 59k people who watched and voted on this anime would reflect it. Looks like the average consumer enjoyed this anime. You are just one of the odd man out and that is perfectly fine everyone has their own opinion. (from my post a month ago) And since when have MAL ratings ever been an accurate indicator of quality? Anyone who's been around for very long knows that they're a pretty useless metric of perceived quality. Look at the numbers behind that. Only 1/3 of the 157k people who started it have even marked it finished yet, and of that 157k, 8.5% (or 13k) have dropped it. Another 6.8% have it on hold, and the show is approaching a year in age, which says to me they probably aren't going to finish it any time soon. Bottom line- take your MAL scores with a salt shaker. Shake it a salt shaker Furthermore, 15,196 of the people who've voted on it, or 26.6%, rated it a 6 or less. |
lawlmartzJul 4, 2016 11:31 AM
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| Lol I have just watched the prologue episode and guess what...It looks like its going to be better than the game LOLOLOLOLOL! |
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| I haven't seen everything from ufotable but the Fate series God Eater and based on what I saw of this anime are superb <3 this isn't a studio like Deem that has an awesome anime one season. And a few seasons later trashes it with a bad one |
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| Do people really think that Zestiria is the worst Tales game? Last time I checked, that title belonged to Tales of the Tempest. It was so poorly received that it started the whole distinction between main and escort titles. Zestiria wasn't even that bad. VierMill said: It did have camera issues and weird pacing, but it was hated for several parts of the story too, though they're some specific things that they can be fixed for the anime adaptation While I agree with most those points, no where in my over 120 hours with the game did I feel like the party was bashing on Alisha for being "inferior" to Rose. This was a very widespread "complaint" from a certain blog that had a list of problems with the game. This blog post was written right after the Japanese version of the game came out, and the author only picked up these problems via a game stream, and not playing the game themselves. For example, the author quotes a few lines from the game, with how Lailah says that Rose is not as much as a burden as Alisha. Taken out of context, this can seem derogatory, but this makes sense considering the story so far. Rose's resonance is so much higher than Alisha's. Having Alisha as Sorey's squire literally took away some of his senses. The scene that this happened was early on the game though, so I doubt the post author saw it. A lot of points in the blog post are valid, while others are subjective. Most of the backlash came from people being butthurt about Bamco's admittedly horrible marketing techniques with the game. ------------------------------------ In general, Tales of Berseria is generating a lot more positive hype than Zestiria. Considering how mediocre some people are calling Zestiria, I think it's great that UFO is doing this. It allows people who don't want to play Zestiria to know the story if they want to play Berseria. |
EpicCh33seJul 4, 2016 3:39 PM
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| 3 things: - God Eater, was certainly not a masterpiece, however, it was not bad at all. Good ost, great animation and entretaining from beginning to end - Fate is a game and Ufotoble did an amazing job out of it(but I get it if when you say "games" you don't count VNs) - Don't get all this Zestiria hate. I recently started playing the game and I'm enjoying the heck out of it. And as for the anime, this prologue was amazing, and yes, I actually want this... "Does anyone actually want this?" wow, that's hipocritical as f*ck. Feel free to shut up for now and if it actually turns out to be bad, then feel free to talk about it then |
Veldin461Jul 4, 2016 4:06 PM
Veldin461 said: 3 things: - God Eater, was certainly not a masterpiece, however, it was not bad at all. Good ost, great animation and entretaining from beginning to end - Fate is a game and Ufotoble did an amazing job out of it - Don't get all this Zestiria hate. I recently started playing the game and I'm enjoying the heck out of it. And as for the anime, this prologue was amazing, and yes, I actually want this... "Does anyone actually want this?" wow, that's hipocritical as f*ck. Feel free to shut up for now and if it actually turns out to be bad, then feel free to talk about it then I couldn't agree more. ^^ |
And since when have MAL ratings ever been an accurate indicator of quality? Anyone who's been around for very long knows that they're a pretty useless metric of perceived quality. This is how a lot of people try to rationalize why ratings don't match what they believe the anime to be worth, as in don't match their hipster, "superior elite taste". Tales of symphonia was fine, but this is shaping up to be better in many ways. I haven't seen nearly enough anime that are video game adaptations, and i imagine most people haven't either, so i don't think theres nearly enough evidence to conclude video game adaptations is a bad idea. I think it has good potential if theres enough creative freedom, and unlike LN and manga adaptations, the story will likely be complete, which is a good thing. |
| well there is never a win-win situation is there.. people are bound to get pissed one way or another |
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EpicCh33se said: Do people really think that Zestiria is the worst Tales game? Last time I checked, that title belonged to Tales of the Tempest. It was so poorly received that it started the whole distinction between main and escort titles. Zestiria wasn't even that bad. VierMill said: It did have camera issues and weird pacing, but it was hated for several parts of the story too, though they're some specific things that they can be fixed for the anime adaptation While I agree with most those points, no where in my over 120 hours with the game did I feel like the party was bashing on Alisha for being "inferior" to Rose. This was a very widespread "complaint" from a certain blog that had a list of problems with the game. This blog post was written right after the Japanese version of the game came out, and the author only picked up these problems via a game stream, and not playing the game themselves. For example, the author quotes a few lines from the game, with how Lailah says that Rose is not as much as a burden as Alisha. Taken out of context, this can seem derogatory, but this makes sense considering the story so far. Rose's resonance is so much higher than Alisha's. Having Alisha as Sorey's squire literally took away some of his senses. The scene that this happened was early on the game though, so I doubt the post author saw it. A lot of points in the blog post are valid, while others are subjective. Most of the backlash came from people being butthurt about Bamco's admittedly horrible marketing techniques with the game. I just mentioned the points that people seems to complaint about, I don't think either that the party thought like that about Alisha, though I didn't read Alisha's episode and I don't know what happens then |
| Why is episode 1 discussion thread closed wtf!? |
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CrowleYo said: Why is episode 1 discussion thread closed wtf!? This is not really the first one, it's a prologue: http://myanimelist.net/anime/33558/Tales_of_Zestiria_the_X__Saiyaku_no_Jidai |
lawlmartz said: an anime's job is not purely to successfully solicit consumers to purchase products, but to entertain. LOL who said that stupid thing to you? Anime is made just for profit. They don't make it for you or me to enjoy and be happy with it, they make it to make money. Most animes are made just to advertise something and others are made aim for the DVD/Blu-Ray sales (and figures and stuff). |
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Kaetokiha said: lawlmartz said: an anime's job is not purely to successfully solicit consumers to purchase products, but to entertain. LOL who said that stupid thing to you? Anime is made just for profit. They don't make it for you or me to enjoy and be happy with it, they make it to make money. Most animes are made just to advertise something and others are made aim for the DVD/Blu-Ray sales (and figures and stuff). Use your brain here for a minute. If consumers did not enjoy a product, they would substitute away from it. Someone in the world out there sells dog sh*t. You going to buy it? There's no accounting for taste, however... |
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| Lol op, what did Ufotable do, for you to get so mad. Tales of Zestiria did not even have the chance of proving himself yet. Seriously give it some time. I actually think as a original adaption this could have much potential. This character group together that's something you could make a good stuff from and the setting too. I really do think that. Also for the haters, the game was not even that bad. If you like tales games you like zesteria all the same. Every Tales game had his traits that where better than the others. |
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| Wow. Ufotable did amzing things, not just action crap. Just go watch Kara no Kyoukai wich is way more a psychological travel in the kind of Ghost in the shell than an action anime like Tales of Symphonia (wich was pretty good). The story of Tales of Zestiria wasn't bad, it was rushed for the game could be release for the 20th of the series, like Xillia did and Bandai will never learn. I'm sure the anime will be good and there seem that there will be some link with the next game Tales of Berseria because the main caracther (the pirate demon girl) is in the ending of the prologue that was fast, but well paced and good. |
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| God eater was meh. It could have been a lot better but they had to bring swaggy characters who can't do shit and miserably crying piece of shiet. But I think Tales series is perfect for anime. Even the game was full anime. (30fps ftw) |
| dont't watch that anime if you are going to give it 1* and cry 10000 words in review about it. |
| Can't say I agree OP, thought God Eater was a pretty damn good watch. It was also the best looking show while it was airing too. |
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| It seems I'm one of the few who actually loved playing Tales of Zestiria... Whelp. I mean, I do admit that the story had some flaws and there were some technical issues, but overall the game was very very enjoyable to me. The main characters in particular and their interactions with each other were what made me love the game. Also there were some really good parts in the game's story even though the story overall isn't that amazing. So, I have really high hopes for this adaptation, since I also love other Ufotable's works and this game felt a bit "anime-like" to me (I don't know if the other Tales of games are like this since I haven't played them, but this game gave me that impression). And well, even if the story for this anime isn't that good, at least I will get to see some of my favorite characters with very good animation, so it's a win-win situation for me ahaha! |
| Someone has mentioned it before - unfotable gets paid for animating the game. And, to tell you the truth, I have ZERO interest in Tales series but I just finished watching the first episode and the animation is so overwhelming that I'm gonna continue watching it even if it turns out to be crap. That's how they buy their viewers and make them interested in the game. |
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Sakaitsu said: CrowleYo said: Why is episode 1 discussion thread closed wtf!? This is not really the first one, it's a prologue: http://myanimelist.net/anime/33558/Tales_of_Zestiria_the_X__Saiyaku_no_Jidai Oh, thank you! It actually makes sense, cause MC wasn't even introduced yet. |
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