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| Veeeeery nice episode, so much action! We also got a little bit of character dev. so I'm very pleased with this episode |
| Still enjoying this series but the first half of this episode felt off and a bit dull (in comparison to how magnificent it has been) but then a whole missing piece of time and back to greatness. |
| @Sapewloth Yes, you were right oh mighty and wise shark. I must admit my mistake in expecting any kind of realism from this abstract masterpiece. I agree with you, Kurusu scenes are the ones worth watching, too bad he is an adult and can't have too much spotlight. @LoneWizard Yeah, right. The evading manoeuvre was quite funny too. |
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HyperL said: ouriel said: Well, this certainly was far better than the previous episodes, but, the last scene had to happen, God dammit Michael Bay, cut it out already. I really dislike when they just break their own world physics for the rule of cool and this rule of cool overstayed its welcome; first the scene with the train hitting the rock and jumping off the rails and landing perfectly back on to it and now this scene, where a train that is reinforced and probably weights hundreds of tons, which is in motion and some petty humans who barely weight not even 7% of the total weight of the train can put enough "inertia" so it doesn't go off the rails. I would still prefer if Kurusu was unable to fight, and just delegate the roles and coordinate how and when to take action, assuming that he knows how to devise a strategy and plan and coordinate the actions of Mumei, Ikoma and the Ikoma's friend who was operating the canon. As @zal said previously, it would've been better in the previous episode if he was the one who devised the plan than Ikoma being the one, because it says that Ikoma has far better military knowledge and knows how to delegate roles and assignments to other people, oversee the plan and so forth than what Kurusu is able to do. Ayame is, well... Ayame, her consistency of uselessness is on point ever since the beginning, tho I really wish they develop her, else she's just another damsel in distress and an unimportant character. The same thing I said for Kurusu, applies for Ayame as well. And the heart of the Black Smoke, was that girl from Mumei backstory, right? Because she has the same looks as that one. Overall, the most enjoyable episode for me so far. However, I'd enjoy it more if they planned far better than going full Michael Bay. :( I disagree with the statement that Ayame is consistently useless. Yes, she can't do much about the Kabane situation (she is just a princess after all), but it is noticed that she can deal with her people (as a princess should). She can control uproars like in ep3 (standing defenceless in front of Ikoma that was considered a possible thread for most), sacrifice herself for the good of her people like in ep 4 (giving her own blood to Ikoma so he could save the people) and guide/command her people for the good of the people. It is also noticed that she is can remain calm in desperate situacions, nor she jump to conclusions (she one of the few that had faith in the Kabaneri) and she do fight a little when she needs to (like in ep4), invalidading the statment that she just another damsel in distress. So yeah that's it for my little rant. And i'll admit i did get a little triggered, since i like Ayame a bit more than Mumei, but i think you should at least keep all my pints in mind. I am not asking for her to go battle the Kabane, but I want her to lead the people, and surely she picked some of those skills from her father. Why I call her useless is because, all she does is just saying yes to things, there's no authority figure where she's going to hold a stance and stick by it; she doesn't delegate roles, she doesn't manage the train, her crowd control abilities are non-existent, she had a coup because of her uselessness, which ended in a far worse situation, with lots of people dead; she rarely interacts with the people of the train, unless a ruckus happens between Ikoma, Mumei and the guards; in the first episode all people would've died if they stayed in station as she was asking, in episode 2 the offensive rhetoric against Ikoma and Mumei from the guards stir even more hate and paranoia by the people and she was unable to do anything to stop this issue as leader should, her stop in episode 3 brought even more demise and despise, allowing people to stay in the open, knowingly that the Kabane are nocturnal species, with the upcoming coup due to her inability to lead in episode 4, episode 5 and 6, she's just the same as the previous episodes, her only words are "I see", "Yes", "Ok". I'll say once again, there's no authority figure in Ayame, thus, her uselessness. And no, this is not a critique for Mumei being better than Ayame or anything, it's a critique about her character which can be better developed than being left as a useless side character. |
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| I loved this episode and especially the OST. The ending still slays. Oh and we finally get the name of the guy I've been adoring, his design and voice are manly <3 |
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sleeplesstown said: sn3akyk1d said: More inconsistency and stupidity in particular the heart bombs acting in ways that aren't consistent, the train bursting through the STEAL GATE that stopped the smoke monster but they broke through with no trouble and no momentum. The average passenger train is about 130 tons, so it's not that outlandish. The big reinforced train in the show would likely weigh several times that. For it to start from standstill and the distance that it had, its ridiculous. |
ZoroZoldyck said: I loved this episode and especially the OST. The ending still slays. Oh and we finally get the name of the guy I've been adoring, his design and voice are manly <3 Which one? Sukari or Suzuki? |
ouriel said: To be fair you are expecting too much by comparing Ayame with a lieutenant that has experience and training under his belt, she was just a naive noble girl before the attack, I would like to see her character develop more, not remaining stagnant like the past few episodes. I agree she is mostly useless/negligible apart for 2/3 moments where she shone, just like most of the characters that are not Ikoma and Mumei.HyperL said: I disagree with the statement that Ayame is consistently useless. Yes, she can't do much about the Kabane situation (she is just a princess after all), but it is noticed that she can deal with her people (as a princess should). She can control uproars like in ep3 (standing defenceless in front of Ikoma that was considered a possible thread for most), sacrifice herself for the good of her people like in ep 4 (giving her own blood to Ikoma so he could save the people) and guide/command her people for the good of the people. It is also noticed that she is can remain calm in desperate situacions, nor she jump to conclusions (she one of the few that had faith in the Kabaneri) and she do fight a little when she needs to (like in ep4), invalidading the statment that she just another damsel in distress. So yeah that's it for my little rant. And i'll admit i did get a little triggered, since i like Ayame a bit more than Mumei, but i think you should at least keep all my pints in mind. I am not asking for her to go battle the Kabane, but I want her to lead the people, and surely she picked some of those skills from her father. Why I call her useless is because, all she does is just saying yes to things, there's no authority figure where she's going to hold a stance and stick by it; she doesn't delegate roles, she doesn't manage the train, her crowd control abilities are non-existent, she had a coup because of her uselessness, which ended in a far worse situation, with lots of people dead; she rarely interacts with the people of the train, unless a ruckus happens between Ikoma, Mumei and the guards; in the first episode all people would've died if they stayed in station as she was asking, in episode 2 the offensive rhetoric against Ikoma and Mumei from the guards stir even more hate and paranoia by the people and she was unable to do anything to stop this issue as leader should, her stop in episode 3 brought even more demise and despise, allowing people to stay in the open, knowingly that the Kabane are nocturnal species, with the upcoming coup due to her inability to lead in episode 4, episode 5 and 6, she's just the same as the previous episodes, her only words are "I see", "Yes", "Ok". I'll say once again, there's no authority figure in Ayame, thus, her uselessness. And no, this is not a critique for Mumei being better than Ayama or anything, it's a critique about her character which can be better developed than being left as a useless side character. |
zalMay 20, 2016 6:10 AM
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Darklight0303 said: Can you read? I said alternative version. As in, the same notes are played except this time it's an orchestrated version without the lyrics. You can faken sing along from 17:41robis798 said: I wish that the epic ost wasn't just an alternative version of the ED. Nonetheless, the whole scene was still pretty hype. Huh? You mean the track that played during the fight with the Fused colony? That wasn't Nine Lie. That was the main theme from the OST 20:06 even has lyrics |
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Kzalca said: HyperL said: 1) No, Kurusu's arm didn't healed fast. It only did if you assume they arrived at the station not so long after the battle where he got his arm cut (at episode 4). But they never stated how much time it taked to get there, and it can safely be assumed that it took them a couple of days, specially since is a train we're talkin about. 2) What Mumei had was not exactly a trauma. Just the fear of being weak that got to her head because her brother throws away anyone he sees as useless. Also, she was unconscious for a while, just some minutes of rest can calm a person down from unreasonable behavior. Thanks for clarifying. I still do have a lot of problems in this episode. 1.)Like that part when all the people on the train pushed it to the side. It just doesn`t seem possible. The train is made of METAL. It looks really heavy. I remember a lot of the passengers died in the last few episodes. Also they were going pretty fast. 2.) Why didn`t that fused kabane attack them when the train went in and rescued Mumei and Ikoma. I mean the train probably went slow. I`m surprised the weren`t attack by that huge thing. It probably took time to lift the rocks. It just seems convenient to me. I can't say much about the train part. But if you didn't noticed, the fused colony "defused" when it colapsed with the gate. While the people rescued ikoma and mumei, the beast was taking its time reforming itself. |
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Kzalca said: HyperL said: 1) No, Kurusu's arm didn't healed fast. It only did if you assume they arrived at the station not so long after the battle where he got his arm cut (at episode 4). But they never stated how much time it taked to get there, and it can safely be assumed that it took them a couple of days, specially since is a train we're talkin about. 2) What Mumei had was not exactly a trauma. Just the fear of being weak that got to her head because her brother throws away anyone he sees as useless. Also, she was unconscious for a while, just some minutes of rest can calm a person down from unreasonable behavior. Thanks for clarifying. I still do have a lot of problems in this episode. 1.)Like that part when all the people on the train pushed it to the side. It just doesn`t seem possible. The train is made of METAL. It looks really heavy. I remember a lot of the passengers died in the last few episodes. Also they were going pretty fast. 2.) Why didn`t that fused kabane attack them when the train went in and rescued Mumei and Ikoma. I mean the train probably went slow. I`m surprised the weren`t attack by that huge thing. It probably took time to lift the rocks. It just seems convenient to me. I can't say much about the train part. But if you didn't noticed, the fused colony "defused" when it colapsed with the gate. While the people rescued ikoma and mumei, the beast was taking its time reforming itself. |
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| That was some really nice teamwork, I really liked how everyone had a role to play. This episode also redeemed the past few episodes and I'm leaning towards liking Mumei again thank goodness. Also that Ikoma catching Mumei scene was perfect, I'm ready to ship this |
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robis798 said: Darklight0303 said: Can you read? I said alternative version. As in, the same notes are played except this time it's an orchestrated version without the lyrics. You can faken sing along from 17:41Huh? You mean the track that played during the fight with the Fused colony? That wasn't Nine Lie. That was the main theme from the OST 20:06 even has lyrics And I am telling you to go listen to the full ost. The track that played since the moment the Fused colony started attacking again is the MAIN theme of the OST. The ED version is much longer and a different tone. |
zal said: ouriel said: To be fair you are pretending too much by comparing Ayame with a lieutenant that has experience and training under his belt, she was just a naive noble girl. But I agree she is mostly useless/negligible apart for 2/3 moments where she shone, just like most of the characters that are not Ikoma and Mumei.I am not asking for her to go battle the Kabane, but I want her to lead the people, and surely she picked some of those skills from her father. Why I call her useless is because, all she does is just saying yes to things, there's no authority figure where she's going to hold a stance and stick by it; she doesn't delegate roles, she doesn't manage the train, her crowd control abilities are non-existent, she had a coup because of her uselessness, which ended in a far worse situation, with lots of people dead; she rarely interacts with the people of the train, unless a ruckus happens between Ikoma, Mumei and the guards; in the first episode all people would've died if they stayed in station as she was asking, in episode 2 the offensive rhetoric against Ikoma and Mumei from the guards stir even more hate and paranoia by the people and she was unable to do anything to stop this issue as leader should, her stop in episode 3 brought even more demise and despise, allowing people to stay in the open, knowingly that the Kabane are nocturnal species, with the upcoming coup due to her inability to lead in episode 4, episode 5 and 6, she's just the same as the previous episodes, her only words are "I see", "Yes", "Ok". I'll say once again, there's no authority figure in Ayame, thus, her uselessness. And no, this is not a critique for Mumei being better than Ayama or anything, it's a critique about her character which can be better developed than being left as a useless side character. I am giving weight to the rank she holds(in this case a high ranking noble) and comparing how an effective leader compares to an ineffective one. This applies for Kurusu as well, but, I'm giving too much thought in an action anime in the end. :( |
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Darklight0303 said: robis798 said: Can you read? I said alternative version. As in, the same notes are played except this time it's an orchestrated version without the lyrics. You can faken sing along from 17:41 20:06 even has lyrics And I am telling you to go listen to the full ost. The track that played since the moment the Fused colony started attacking again is the MAIN theme of the OST. The ED version is much longer and a different tone. That's what the word - alternative - means |
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ouriel said: I see the reason but if she would undergo a drastic change in her character we would complain about rushed character development. KnK has no way out xD. The focus on characterization is minimal... too bad...zal said: To be fair you are pretending too much by comparing Ayame with a lieutenant that has experience and training under his belt, she was just a naive noble girl. But I agree she is mostly useless/negligible apart for 2/3 moments where she shone, just like most of the characters that are not Ikoma and Mumei. I am giving weight to the rank she holds(in this case a high ranking noble) and comparing how an effective leader compares to an ineffective one. This applies for Kurusu as well, but, I'm giving too much thought in an action anime in the end. :( |
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StevePen387 said: Please somebody tell me I am not the only person that noticed this- Based on the two times the schematic of the town is shown, showing the train tracks and the walkways etc., as well as the general schematics shown in various scenes and overhead shots of the town, it is quite easy to peace together the general outlay of the tracks. Yeah.... about the railway, maybe only a few people noticed that cause we don't give a f about the map cause it's difficult to understand the map, especially since it's in Japanese....or we didn't pay much attention to it. If you could kindly provide a good illustration with arrows on the routes that they're taking, that would be really helpful. Thanks. Secondly and most egregious, somehow the section from the part of the track where the rubble was lifted to the other gate they need to get to is only about 1/5(generously) of the entire loop from the gate they came in, to the destination gate. However, even at full speed plus extra pressure in the last 30 or so seconds, this sprint takes about 3-4 minutes! Assuming some scenes overlap, even cutting out some time and sticking to just say one characters or groups scenes last 2+ minutes! This whole full speed dash should take 30 seconds at most!, but realistically based on the size of the train compared to the track width, it would actually take less than 15 seconds at full speed! We're really not sure about the exact distance of the entire town/railway and the exact speed of the train is unknown so you really can't accurately calculate those times. So that could've been just for theatrical mumbo jumbo, just for the sake of the action scene's tension. And lastly but this is not as bad as the first two- why would they take the risk to travel and get the cannon? I know they also used it as an excuse to pick up the two in the tunnels, but why would they take the train down with them? I don't know if it was just the front of the train and not the whole thing, but either way isn't this stupid taking the train down, attracting the shadow monster and possibly risking the only train engine? Why would they not use the small crane they had to drop somebody down from the top level? Instead they go again around a few loops in the whole spiral track layout instead of perhaps going to inspect the crane, maybe cutting the crane wire and allowing the rubble to fall after tieing a rope to the hanging rubble to make sure it does not fall on the tracks. Either way if they really needed the cannon or not, I think it is ridiculous but at least it can be explained by- if they are quiet perhaps the beast will not attack and at that point they did not even know if the beast was occupied eating- they only realized once they saved the two of them and headed out of there. 1. Cause the best defense is a good offense. 乁( º Ꮂ º )ㄏ (lel cause they needed to save the MCs ofc hahahahaha) 2. If they're gonna get a huge-ass canon, it's gonna be easier and faster to carry and attach it to the train if it's nearby, rather than risking for the slow-ass crane to bring it up and attach it to the train. 3. Either way, they're gonna attract that monster wherever their location may be because (refer to** below), so might as well use the faster route, as stated in #2. 4. Sorry, you lost me there. └[￣ᨓ￣]┘ But I'm sure they let the others to go down to check Mumei and Ikoma's location (cause they probably don't know the exact place the fell) and also to check their condition. **I doubt the Giant Black Smoke thinggy wouldn't chase them they if were "quiet". That thing is already triggered, so it's gonna regenerate and attack them regardless of what they do. |
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zal said: I see the reason but if she would undergo a drastic change in her character we would complain about rushed character development. KnK has no way out xD. The focus on characterization is minimal... too bad... Well, they had 4-5 episodes to develop the side characters, there might still be a chance, but I don't know how long this anime will be. Tho it'd be nice if some of the side characters receive better characterisation. :D |
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| Each episode makes it harder and harder to uphold my suspension of disbelief. Tis a shame. Ikoma's method of fighting the Kabanes would (should) get him killed immediately. He lets them jump onto him, then shoots their heart at close range. Assuming him being a Kabaneri gives him increased physical strength, him not being bowled over by the force of one of them jumping into him is fine. But when he has multiple Kabanes all over him, I don't get how he isn't being ripped apart straight away. I mean, we've been shown how they jump and lunge at people, biting into them immediately and the like. Ikoma being immune to the virus doesn't suddenly mean bites and claws aren't going to injure him. He gets surrounded by lots of them, and they just lightly hold onto him, doing nothing else aside from a little shoving to-and-fro. The hell? Not even going to touch that Fused Colony whatever the fuck it was. |
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ouriel said: zal said: I see the reason but if she would undergo a drastic change in her character we would complain about rushed character development. KnK has no way out xD. The focus on characterization is minimal... too bad... Well, they had 4-5 episodes to develop the side characters, there might still be a chance, but I don't know how long this anime will be. Tho it'd be nice if some of the side characters receive better characterisation. :D It's on the official website that's it's gonna be a 12 ep series. http://kabaneri.com/package/03/ Hoping there's an s2 LOL I doubt they can wrap things ups in the remaining eps. |
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Kzalca said: HyperL said: 1) No, Kurusu's arm didn't healed fast. It only did if you assume they arrived at the station not so long after the battle where he got his arm cut (at episode 4). But they never stated how much time it taked to get there, and it can safely be assumed that it took them a couple of days, specially since is a train we're talkin about. 2) What Mumei had was not exactly a trauma. Just the fear of being weak that got to her head because her brother throws away anyone he sees as useless. Also, she was unconscious for a while, just some minutes of rest can calm a person down from unreasonable behavior. Thanks for clarifying. I still do have a lot of problems in this episode. 1.)Like that part when all the people on the train pushed it to the side. It just doesn`t seem possible. The train is made of METAL. It looks really heavy. I remember a lot of the passengers died in the last few episodes. Also they were going pretty fast. 2.) Why didn`t that fused kabane attack them when the train went in and rescued Mumei and Ikoma. I mean the train probably went slow. I`m surprised the weren`t attack by that huge thing. It probably took time to lift the rocks. It just seems convenient to me. If you didn't noticed, the fused colony "disfused" when it colapsed with the gate. While the people was helping ikoma and mumei, the beast was taking its time reforming itself. |
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Raz1515 said: Darklight0303 said: ooh can't wait! I'm guessing he's gonna be the brother probablyAccording to a tweet from Mamoru Myano his character is getting introduced next week Here he is! Biba's design. |
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Thug_Gou said: ouriel said: Well, they had 4-5 episodes to develop the side characters, there might still be a chance, but I don't know how long this anime will be. Tho it'd be nice if some of the side characters receive better characterisation. :D It's on the official website that's it's gonna be a 12 ep series. http://kabaneri.com/package/03/ Hoping there's an s2 LOL I doubt they can wrap things ups in the remaining eps. Well, crap. I thought this was going to be 20 something episodes, I doubt there'll be time now to develop the other characters. :( |
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HyperL said: Kzalca said: Thanks for clarifying. I still do have a lot of problems in this episode. 1.)Like that part when all the people on the train pushed it to the side. It just doesn`t seem possible. The train is made of METAL. It looks really heavy. I remember a lot of the passengers died in the last few episodes. Also they were going pretty fast. 2.) Why didn`t that fused kabane attack them when the train went in and rescued Mumei and Ikoma. I mean the train probably went slow. I`m surprised the weren`t attack by that huge thing. It probably took time to lift the rocks. It just seems convenient to me. I can't say much about the train part. But if you didn't noticed, the fused colony "defused" when it colapsed with the gate. While the people rescued ikoma and mumei, the beast was taking its time reforming itself. Oh. I didn`t notice that. Also I noticed while rewatching, it was trying to get those dead Kabane in the tunnel. I guess that`s what gave them more time to escape. I`m glad I came to this forum. It`s helpful to hear other people`s opinions. |
ouriel said: Thug_Gou said: It's on the official website that's it's gonna be a 12 ep series. http://kabaneri.com/package/03/ Hoping there's an s2 LOL I doubt they can wrap things ups in the remaining eps. Well, crap. I thought this was going to be 20 something episodes, I doubt there'll be time now to develop the other characters. :( Yeah, it's such a shame :(, but I hope we get a season 2. >_< AngryPotato34 said: Raz1515 said: ooh can't wait! I'm guessing he's gonna be the brother probably Here he is! Biba's design. Well that's a bit of a spoiler LOL But we're gonna see him next week so nvm *sigh* anyway, he looks like he could be Yukina's brother. xD and He's hot. w00t!!! |
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AngryPotato34 said: Raz1515 said: ooh can't wait! I'm guessing he's gonna be the brother probably Here he is! Biba's design. Well that's a bit of a spoiler LOL But we're gonna see him next week so nvm *sigh* anyway, he looks like he could be Yukina's brother. xD and He's hot. w00t!!![/quote] Fixed! :D |
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Too bad ----------03 can't see your posts anymore :( boohoo and more awesome Gaijin-sama <3 AngryPotato34 said: AngryPotato34 said: Well that's a bit of a spoiler LOL But we're gonna see him next week so nvm *sigh* anyway, he looks like he could be Yukina's brother. xD and He's hot. w00t!!! Fixed! :D Thanks! :) |
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AngryPotato34 said: Raz1515 said: ooh can't wait! I'm guessing he's gonna be the brother probably Here he is! Biba's design. Wow Biba looks fabulous like Myano said he is |
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AngryPotato34 said: Raz1515 said: ooh can't wait! I'm guessing he's gonna be the brother probably Here he is! Biba's design. This guy looks like an assh*le. I can see a Ikoma vs Biba in the future. |
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Comic_Sans said: I'm sorry, but was that monster supposed to be scary? No? Where did you get that? This is not a horror show, its not suposed to spook you. The fused colony was only suposed to be dangerous, which he was for the train people. |
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Comic_Sans said: I'm sorry, but was that monster supposed to be scary? No? Where did you get that? This is not a horror show, its not supposed to spook you. The fused colony was only supposed to be dangerous, which he was for the train people. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: Moreover this is the third time they use this route (kabane, wazatori, big black thing). Present a presumably dangerous creature at the end of one episode. Let the characters shit on it the next episode.No? Where did you get that? This is not a horror show, its not supposed to spook you. The fused colony was only supposed to be dangerous, which he was for the train people. |
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zal said: Such variety, much wowComic_Sans said: Moreover this is the third time they use this route (kabane, wazatori, big black thing). Present a presumably dangerous creature at the end of one episode. Let the characters shit on it the next episode.Then how do the creators of this show expect me to take something that looks so ridiculous as that zombie colony monster seriously? I found it neither scary nor did it give me a feeling of danger, it was just laughable |
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zal said: Comic_Sans said: Moreover this is the third time they use this route (kabane, wazatori, big black thing). Present a presumably dangerous creature at the end of one episode. Let the characters shit on it the next episode.Then how do the creators of this show expect me to take something that looks so ridiculous as that zombie colony monster seriously? I found it neither scary nor did it give me a feeling of danger, it was just laughable Yes, but you can thank the writing for that, because plot armor dictates they must survive somehow. It doesn't change the fact that if something like that monster existe in real life we would be scared to death. |
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| So who thinks the Young Master might want to take Ikoma in for study to perfect his clearly imperfect Kabanerization method? If all of Mumei's group was Kabaneri and they all turned into Kabane in the end then there is a clear flaw with the procedure. |
Darklight0303May 20, 2016 8:16 AM
HyperL said: When you present something like really terrible and then it is easily defeated not once but more times the show loses credibility. Plot armour? Not its fault, not this time. The fault is in the difference between the expectation (created by the show itself) and the actual danger brought by the creature. This can be a let down in serious anime or a joke in comedy anime (one punch and others).zal said: Moreover this is the third time they use this route (kabane, wazatori, big black thing). Present a presumably dangerous creature at the end of one episode. Let the characters shit on it the next episode. Yes, but you can thank the writing for that, because plot armor dictates they must survive somehow. It doesn't change the fact that if something like that monster existe in real life we would be scared to death. |
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| The action in this episode made me breathless. Love it. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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| It is kind of convenient that when they saved Ikoma and Mumei, that mass of Kabane didn't approach them at all, and we got an explanation that they take everything (the corpses in this case) and they were able to escape since the mass focused on getting those corpses instead of humans. -_- |
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Fiji said: It is kind of convenient that when they saved Ikoma and Mumei, that mass of Kabane didn't approach them at all, and we got an explanation that they take everything (the corpses in this case) and they were able to escape since the mass focused on getting those corpses instead of humans. -_- There's more corpses than humans if you think about it. You at most have 5 people in the open from the train from what we see. That's nothing compared to the kabane and corpses still laying around the shantie town under the catwalk of that station. THe only reason the Fused colony even woke up was because the Kabane that Mumei killed in episode 6 shrieked when it was killed. Before that it was passive at the base of the crater. If it didn't have a passive threshold of activity then there would not have been any survivors after it first attacked the town |
zal said: HyperL said: When you present something like really terrible and then it is easily defeated not once but more times the show loses credibility. Plot armour? Not its fault, not this time. The fault is in the difference between the expectation (created by the show itself) and the actual danger brought by the creature. This can be a let down in serious anime or a joke in comedy anime (one punch and others).Yes, but you can thank the writing for that, because plot armor dictates they must survive somehow. It doesn't change the fact that if something like that monster existe in real life we would be scared to death. I see. But the writers just backed themselves Into a corner, since they can't kill any relevant characters yet, not without developing them first, othewise the deaths would not be as impactful like in some of the scenes in AoT for example. So they have no option but to keep them surviving for now. |
HyperLMay 20, 2016 8:38 AM
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HyperL said: This is the price to pay to have half the episodes composed of action, loses impact after some time, plus Ikoma's awful fights. KnK is always in a hurry to get somewhere but it is losing the interest of some viewer on the way and no time to get closer to the characters. zal said: When you present something like really terrible and then it is easily defeated not once but more times the show loses credibility. Plot armour? Not its fault, not this time. The fault is in the difference between the expectation (created by the show itself) and the actual danger brought by the creature. This can be a let down in serious anime or a joke in comedy anime (one punch and others). I see. But the writers just backed themselves Into a corner, since they can't kill any relevant characters yet, not without developing them first, othewise the deaths would not be as impactful like in some of the scenes in AoT for example. No need to kill characters but make the creature pose a real threat, somehow. |
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HyperL said: zal said: When you present something like really terrible and then it is easily defeated not once but more times the show loses credibility. Plot armour? Not its fault, not this time. The fault is in the difference between the expectation (created by the show itself) and the actual danger brought by the creature. This can be a let down in serious anime or a joke in comedy anime (one punch and others). I see. But the writers just backed themselves Into a corner, since they can't kill any relevant characters yet, not without developing them first, othewise the deaths would not be as impactful like in some of the scenes in AoT for example. So they have no option but to keep them surviving for now. S-s-so-some-someone's gonna DIE?!!!  I hope it won't be Gaijin-sama </3 |
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