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Feb 9, 2016 4:20 AM
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2 years ago, I joined MAL. Later, after things happened, I've always been up to date with the seasonal anime, but lol the current season is exempted.

That aside, Whenever I see the list of anime for the season, I watch at least 2-6 of them. These 2-6 anime I watched every season seems to be decent, and they aren't weaboo-like.

Now my question is, what does the mass really hate about the anime currently? Is it just a part of anime, specifically the anime that is for sexual entertainment? Anime nowadays aren't really weird or trying to be from my experience in watching seasonal anime, and the stories are good.
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Feb 9, 2016 5:24 AM
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There is nothing to hate about the current anime season. It's actually one of the most exceptional seasons in the past couple of years with 4-5 shows that are decent enough to watch. I don't see many anime forcefully trying to implement fanservice as much as they did in the past, and even if they did, that has been essentially a part of the industry's identity for the past while.
HolybaptiserFeb 9, 2016 5:28 AM
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives.

Feb 9, 2016 5:27 AM
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Well... It must be the "timing" on how the anime industry approaches the economy.
Feb 9, 2016 5:29 AM
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I think people tend to hate anime because they don't like the fans. Introducing myself as an anime geek to people always seems to put them on edge believing I would try to shove anime in their face. The new anime given to us are great but some people just don't want to try it out.
Feb 9, 2016 5:39 AM
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It's the anime fans that make it look bad, and they're on par with the gaming fans who are just as annoying as the anime fans. 9gag, youtube, reddit, 4chan and what other media is out there, they just seem to shove it in your face, and, if you just as so speak a bad word about it, oh boy, all hell's gonna break loose down on you.
Feb 9, 2016 5:49 AM
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keimaconquesta said:
Now my question is, what does the mass really hate about the anime currently?

Basically, muggles don't know anything about what anime is currently, what anime was like back at the time they first heard about it, and are likely to never know anything about what anime is really like. Many of them are also incapable of forming their own opinion after watching anime, and need their priests/politicians/celebrities to tell them. And these people mostly spew out nazi propaganda.

So it doesn't matter what anime is like. There is no point speaking to muggles unless they're young enough to actually try watching it.
Feb 9, 2016 6:00 AM
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flannan said:
keimaconquesta said:
Now my question is, what does the mass really hate about the anime currently?

Basically, muggles don't know anything about what anime is currently, what anime was like back at the time they first heard about it, and are likely to never know anything about what anime is really like. Many of them are also incapable of forming their own opinion after watching anime, and need their priests/politicians/celebrities to tell them. And these people mostly spew out nazi propaganda.

So it doesn't matter what anime is like. There is no point speaking to muggles unless they're young enough to actually try watching it.

Out of my own personal experience of what the internet has to offer, I would say that the majority of anime fans conduct themselves in a less than commendable manner on the majority of websites that provide some sort of interaction between its user base, strictly due to the fact that younger audiences do not know how to differentiate the times it is appropriate to either post a picture or a gif. Also, on a lot of internet forums where you are given the option of having an avatar, the kids that have anime related pictures as their avatars act immature or simply say stupid shit and that also does not portray what the anime community can be or what the current status of the industry is. It only takes a few idiots to ruin the image for the masses and damage control is incredibly hard when it comes to people forming opinions on the internet, since mob mentality takes place at an alarming rate when it comes to forums. This is quintessentially the same principle as having the loudest people within the anime community ruining the image of certain fandoms which lead the majority of others generalizing about that fandom.

As much as anime fans like to play the role of the victim, they are no different than the people who ostracize them. As much as anime fans want others to be accepting towards their hobbies, they are just the same and act as closed-minded about certain aspects of the industry or towards each other. Ignorance plagues humanity on a wide scale and it is far from being something representative of the current status of anime or its fans.

The vast majority of youtube Top 10 lists or whatever do nothing to portray what anime can or is about. On all platforms of the internet, we are continually being disgraced by our fellow fans whose attitudes are not about creating an image that can have appeal to non-fans, but only to cater to their fellow fans. The anime community can be a pretty closed-off place since it does nothing to actually promote itself in a healthy way. We have the worst fucking public relations out of the majority of fans out there. We are actually way more toxic than the gaming and esports community.
HolybaptiserFeb 9, 2016 6:03 AM
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives.

Feb 9, 2016 6:34 AM
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keimaconquesta said:
2 years ago, I joined MAL. Later, after things happened, I've always been up to date with the seasonal anime, but lol the current season is exempted.

That aside, Whenever I see the list of anime for the season, I watch at least 2-6 of them. These 2-6 anime I watched every season seems to be decent, and they aren't weaboo-like.

Now my question is, what does the mass really hate about the anime currently? Is it just a part of anime, specifically the anime that is for sexual entertainment? Anime nowadays aren't really weird or trying to be from my experience in watching seasonal anime, and the stories are good.

You're numb to fanservice. Every anime this season outside of 1 has it in an amount that would turn people off to anime. Same with last season.
Feb 9, 2016 6:36 AM
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This season is clearly better than, at least, the previous 2.
Feb 9, 2016 6:54 AM
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Because anything that does not agree with them, or do not want to understand,does not deserve to exist.
Anime is not a means to seek approval.It should stay true to itself.
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keimaconquesta said:
That aside, Whenever I see the list of anime for the season, I watch at least 2-6 of them. These 2-6 anime I watched every season seems to be decent, and they aren't weaboo-like.
+1 for this

i dont get raccoons who say it's hard to find good anime

otherwise, the biggest minus of newer anime are all those 13 episode incomplete adaptations, especially if they're actually interesting and you know they will most likely never get another season
Feb 9, 2016 6:55 AM
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Not sure about current season.

But for me it tends to be the fall in quality after the first 6 episodes of a series.
Feb 9, 2016 7:07 AM

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me too always picking up few anime from curently airing section ofcourse majority of series are repetitive cliche or just bad but some of them is worth watching. the ones who hate seasonal anime mostly pick up wrong shows to watch or pretend to have better taste than others and too salty to accept something new.
Feb 9, 2016 7:13 AM

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compare to other entertainment media anime is fairly a new term...people view anime now when they used to view gaming 18 years ago...just give people time
Feb 9, 2016 7:18 AM

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I'm watching 9 of the current airing anime, I really don't find anything wrong with this seasons line up. Or any seasons for that matter, if there's ones you don't find appealing, don't watch. Someones getting off to their ecchi just fine without us :')
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Holybaptiser said:
Out of my own personal experience of what the internet has to offer, I would say that the majority of anime fans conduct themselves in a less than commendable manner on the majority of websites that provide some sort of interaction between its user base, strictly due to the fact that younger audiences do not know how to differentiate the times it is appropriate to either post a picture or a gif.

Out of personal experience, the majority of internet users conduct themselves in a less than commendable manner, and anime fans aren't special in any way.
Feb 9, 2016 7:32 AM

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keimaconquesta said:


Now my question is, what does the mass really hate about the anime currently? Is it just a part of anime, specifically the anime that is for sexual entertainment? Anime nowadays aren't really weird or trying to be from my experience in watching seasonal anime, and the stories are good.


Maybe because they didn't find a lot of shows that is appealing to them nothing more nothing less

I find this season not that bad to be honest as well , its just few of them have fanservice maybe (I didn't check all of them )

I was watching 8 of the current airing but I dropped two because I wasn't completely sold on the premise not because of fanservice and I might pick it up later on when it finishes
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flannan said:
Holybaptiser said:
Out of my own personal experience of what the internet has to offer, I would say that the majority of anime fans conduct themselves in a less than commendable manner on the majority of websites that provide some sort of interaction between its user base, strictly due to the fact that younger audiences do not know how to differentiate the times it is appropriate to either post a picture or a gif.

Out of personal experience, the majority of internet users conduct themselves in a less than commendable manner, and anime fans aren't special in any way.
Except they do everything right in painting the wrong picture to people that don't know any better and that was the point of the post that you took a few sentences out of to make a mostly irrelevant comment relevant.
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives.

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Holybaptiser said:
flannan said:

Out of personal experience, the majority of internet users conduct themselves in a less than commendable manner, and anime fans aren't special in any way.
Except they do everything right in painting the wrong picture to people that don't know any better and that was the point of the post that you took a few sentences out of to make a mostly irrelevant comment relevant.

Let me try to rephrase my statement. People behaving badly on the internet is the norm. Hence, anybody who thinks that anime fans behaving badly is somehow the fault of anime is a retard.
Feb 9, 2016 8:42 AM

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lack of originality,fanservice, most of targeret to one niche fan, unconvincing teenagers characters and relations, makes hard to some people and mature adults to find enjoyiment in anime.
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Feb 9, 2016 10:32 AM

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To be completely honest, for most people anime is a bit weird. Think of it this way, in anime you have a lot of values and norms that are completely different from the ones typically found in the West. Who would think of making cartoon porn here? Or let children and teenagers live without their parents or someone else to look after them? Things like that are abhorrent according to the average person here.

It's also a fact that the most vocal anime fans are pretty much the ones giving anime in general a bad name. You know how everyone in the anime world hates weeaboos? Well, they are the ones you see the most. This is true for every niche in the world, but weeaboos are typically teenagers and teenagers tend to exaggerate their fandom. Look at Justin Bieber fangirls and you know what I mean.

Third and last reason is that lots of people see cartoons as something exclusively for children or as something that promotes violenceso they won't bother to try it.
Feb 9, 2016 11:02 AM

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People will either think you're watching battle shounen or hentai if you tell them you're an anime fan. Someone once asked if my Girls und Panzer figure was from Sword Art Online because he doesn't know of any other anime. Someone else said I should "stop watching K-On!" referring to moe anime in general.
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lolol

only what i like is good and what you like is shit

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Feb 10, 2016 1:11 AM

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What i see, most hate given towards "generic harem shit", that focused only on ecchi and FS, last season you get typically "same" anime, rakudai and asterisk.
Where this season you get musaigen and bahamut. The other like Dagashi kashi is not that different, your main reason to see this anime is only shidare right?

That list will only goes continue on and on, every new season, new anime like that appear, and basically it leaves anime industry "lack of creativity"

To think this genre will success no matter what, whether it is decent or not or even with so much hate. Not like niche genre like horror or mystery
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Dunno, it is true or not, having around at MAL these days, leave me with that conclusion.

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Feb 10, 2016 1:45 AM

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Let them hate. Let them boil in it. Meanwhile I will be having fun doing what I want.
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But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting.


Wise words.
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Comes mainly from simple misconception, for people with little or no knowledge of anime it is automatically associated with western cartoons in their minds, a form of animation almost everyone is familiar with and almost universally aimed at a very young audience. Little do they know anime is much, much more vast and can appeal to a massive range of people of many age groups.
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Holybaptiser said:
flannan said:

Basically, muggles don't know anything about what anime is currently, what anime was like back at the time they first heard about it, and are likely to never know anything about what anime is really like. Many of them are also incapable of forming their own opinion after watching anime, and need their priests/politicians/celebrities to tell them. And these people mostly spew out nazi propaganda.

So it doesn't matter what anime is like. There is no point speaking to muggles unless they're young enough to actually try watching it.

Out of my own personal experience of what the internet has to offer, I would say that the majority of anime fans conduct themselves in a less than commendable manner on the majority of websites that provide some sort of interaction between its user base, strictly due to the fact that younger audiences do not know how to differentiate the times it is appropriate to either post a picture or a gif. Also, on a lot of internet forums where you are given the option of having an avatar, the kids that have anime related pictures as their avatars act immature or simply say stupid shit and that also does not portray what the anime community can be or what the current status of the industry is. It only takes a few idiots to ruin the image for the masses and damage control is incredibly hard when it comes to people forming opinions on the internet, since mob mentality takes place at an alarming rate when it comes to forums. This is quintessentially the same principle as having the loudest people within the anime community ruining the image of certain fandoms which lead the majority of others generalizing about that fandom.

As much as anime fans like to play the role of the victim, they are no different than the people who ostracize them. As much as anime fans want others to be accepting towards their hobbies, they are just the same and act as closed-minded about certain aspects of the industry or towards each other. Ignorance plagues humanity on a wide scale and it is far from being something representative of the current status of anime or its fans.

The vast majority of youtube Top 10 lists or whatever do nothing to portray what anime can or is about. On all platforms of the internet, we are continually being disgraced by our fellow fans whose attitudes are not about creating an image that can have appeal to non-fans, but only to cater to their fellow fans. The anime community can be a pretty closed-off place since it does nothing to actually promote itself in a healthy way. We have the worst fucking public relations out of the majority of fans out there. We are actually way more toxic than the gaming and esports community.


Interesting post; I'm inclined to agree with that. I did actually avoid MAL for this reason, until I was encouraged to join by someone. So for those who aren't into anime at all, I'd only imagine that the damage to anime fandom's image is even greater. And there are a lot of anime fans that are very close minded to anime that isn't exactly to their taste, as well as things outside of anime.

That being said I think there's another side to it. I think anime's niche status causes people to be quicker to make assumptions based on limited experience. Everyone knows that gaming community has it's share of bad apples, but now it's relatively popular, you can openly be a gamer without having stereotypes attached to you. When you know functional people who play games because of the hobby's prevalence, it becomes even more unrealistic to assume that any given gamer is some fundamentally flawed individual. When you don't know any anime fans either because of how they're less common or because they ones you know are "in the closet" then it's more likely that someone will jump to conclusions based on the vocal minority. Although, it should be obvious that there are all kinds of people who watch anime, since it's just entertainment.

I think immature anime fans and ignorant people who can't form their own opinions without making generalisations are both part of the problem to be honest. And while it's somewhat understandable that many fans don't want to be associated with the resulting stereotype, people intentionally hiding their interests doesn't really help either. If every anime fan was somehow detectable on sight, people would be forced to acknowledge that it's really only some fans that are a problem and that most are just normal people.
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Y'all know some interesting people. At best I would say that people equate anime viewers to gamer's in terms of being overly obsessive. However, most of the people that I am around are 30-40 years old and unless you specify what anime is then they haven't the foggiest that it even exists. If you mention it in passing, an explanation is asked for and after given I typically get the "oh, you mean cartoons" response and that is the end of the conversation as they likely have zero interest.

Unless of course ones idea of conversation is based solely on social media, that is a different animal.
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It's the anime fans that give anime a bad rep. I avoided anime until my senior year of high school because of those fucking weebs. I did watch hentai before I started watching anime though.
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Most of it is - as many stated before - because of fans that stand out the most, like true weaboos and fanboys. These people make opinion for most anime fans just because it's them who post stuff outside the community, like for example fanservice pics or they just make rants in general about, for example, how mature anime is.

Other than that it's just prejudice. Many people hating anime haven't really watched any, besides ones from childhood, like Pokemon or DBZ and their knowledge is based on perverted pics on the Internet. The line between loving/hating anime is usually very thin and changing your mind is usually a matter of trying a good one. Heck, that's how I got into anime. I used to hate it. Now I watch it without a problem and know that majority of the community is normal.
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Radiant_Roar said:
Holybaptiser said:

Out of my own personal experience of what the internet has to offer, I would say that the majority of anime fans conduct themselves in a less than commendable manner on the majority of websites that provide some sort of interaction between its user base, strictly due to the fact that younger audiences do not know how to differentiate the times it is appropriate to either post a picture or a gif. Also, on a lot of internet forums where you are given the option of having an avatar, the kids that have anime related pictures as their avatars act immature or simply say stupid shit and that also does not portray what the anime community can be or what the current status of the industry is. It only takes a few idiots to ruin the image for the masses and damage control is incredibly hard when it comes to people forming opinions on the internet, since mob mentality takes place at an alarming rate when it comes to forums. This is quintessentially the same principle as having the loudest people within the anime community ruining the image of certain fandoms which lead the majority of others generalizing about that fandom.

As much as anime fans like to play the role of the victim, they are no different than the people who ostracize them. As much as anime fans want others to be accepting towards their hobbies, they are just the same and act as closed-minded about certain aspects of the industry or towards each other. Ignorance plagues humanity on a wide scale and it is far from being something representative of the current status of anime or its fans.

The vast majority of youtube Top 10 lists or whatever do nothing to portray what anime can or is about. On all platforms of the internet, we are continually being disgraced by our fellow fans whose attitudes are not about creating an image that can have appeal to non-fans, but only to cater to their fellow fans. The anime community can be a pretty closed-off place since it does nothing to actually promote itself in a healthy way. We have the worst fucking public relations out of the majority of fans out there. We are actually way more toxic than the gaming and esports community.


Interesting post; I'm inclined to agree with that. I did actually avoid MAL for this reason, until I was encouraged to join by someone. So for those who aren't into anime at all, I'd only imagine that the damage to anime fandom's image is even greater. And there are a lot of anime fans that are very close minded to anime that isn't exactly to their taste, as well as things outside of anime.

That being said I think there's another side to it. I think anime's niche status causes people to be quicker to make assumptions based on limited experience. Everyone knows that gaming community has it's share of bad apples, but now it's relatively popular, you can openly be a gamer without having stereotypes attached to you. When you know functional people who play games because of the hobby's prevalence, it becomes even more unrealistic to assume that any given gamer is some fundamentally flawed individual. When you don't know any anime fans either because of how they're less common or because they ones you know are "in the closet" then it's more likely that someone will jump to conclusions based on the vocal minority. Although, it should be obvious that there are all kinds of people who watch anime, since it's just entertainment.

I think immature anime fans and ignorant people who can't form their own opinions without making generalizations are both part of the problem to be honest. And while it's somewhat understandable that many fans don't want to be associated with the resulting stereotype, people intentionally hiding their interests doesn't really help either. If every anime fan was somehow detectable on sight, people would be forced to acknowledge that it's really only some fans that are a problem and that most are just normal people.

I don't disagree with the fact that both parties are to blame. I understand both sides' perspectives, if I say so myself. We live in a world where people are quick to pass judgments based on very little information, whether it be a small sample size of a community or by seeing very little of what anime, itself, has to offer as a medium. Anime does not have a good image to begin with because of the stereotype that it is a medium that hyper-sexualizes underage characters, is about cute girls being cute, has shallow storytelling and many more negative traits. It is undeniable that some anime do have these things, and when the community glorifies these things on platforms that include some form of file sharing (YouTube) or socially interactive websites like forums and image boards, it can begin to solidify a mostly incorrect preconception to the people who are ignorant - it provides evidence that strengthens such misconceptions. I am not even going to delve into the issue of most people watching pornography and most of the porn sites around having hentai that portray some of the most vulgar forms of pornography in them, since that is a whole different beast on its own.

I don't know much about the whole anime community in clubs or societies in school since I didn't have or partake in those things during my time as a student. The people who I met at school that were anime watchers seemed to be pretty normal people. I see images on the internet of the extreme cases and it is definitely not appealing, either. These are the same images and stories that get circulated around and they definitely don't do us any good.

All in all, the social stigma that is attached to the whole anime community is one that is incredibly hard to wash away. With gaming, everyone knows someone who plays video games or had at one point played video games themselves. They can know by first-hand experience that gaming can be much more than just child's play and the people playing games are not socially dysfunctional. With anime it's different because of how niche it is, like you said, because the exposure to the community is very limited and its sample size can definitely paint the wrong picture. If I was someone who was ignorant about something that I did not have much of an interest in and were to see the community of it on the internet acting like a bunch of baboons then I, too, would probably begin to think that these people are pathetic. I don't generalize, because I know that's not how things work, but I could definitely come to the conclusion that these people are, for the most part, like that.

The whole "I don't care about other people's opinions" approach to the matter is what is hurting us the most. People want to pretend showing the merits of their own character is not what they should do in their life and act like a bunch of socially inept fools while flaunting around the fact that they are fans of the medium. I see this kind of mentality being portrayed on the internet a lot when I go to message boards. If some people had the dignity to act with eloquence and elegance while being confident in the fact that they enjoy watching anime, they could inadvertently persuade some others that they might have the wrong idea. But no, we get people who are willingly calling themselves weeaboos and otakus like a bunch of fucking retards.

That's why I fundamentally disagree with flannan's perspective. It's not just the ignorant masses that are acting like retards by forming opinions of what they see on the internet, because the anime fandom is acting even more retarded then they are. They have the reasons to label and profile us as such people. We don't do anything to give the outside party the chance to see the merits of ourselves or what we enjoy.
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Most of the public is convinced that anime is all hentai, tentacle rape, and lolis. It's part of the prejudice bias: give them one good show and they'd be willing to accept it, but they don't want to watch it because of negative things they've heard about the medium beforehand. Because of this, people who have never watched any anime don't want to watch it because they've heard bad things about it and the fans. The "weeaboo" stereotype doesn't help anyone who wants to get into anime, as they're concerned about becoming one of those crazy fans.

My advice: hide your otaku habits and don't make anime your life. If people want to talk to you about it, then talk to them about it, but don't make every single conversation you have relate back to anime. Have other interests.
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It's because of fans that don't behave according to my standards. If only they were more like me everyone would love anime.
No, but really, it's just ignorance and hypocrisy. They don't know anything about anime, and, for example, may be fine with incest in Game of Thrones, but weirded out if it's in anime.
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Flevalt said:
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Let me try to rephrase my statement. People behaving badly on the internet is the norm. Hence, anybody who thinks that anime fans behaving badly is somehow the fault of anime is a retard.

I get what you are trying to say, but:
People in real life act badly all the time, more than anyone on the net could possibly do by verbal actions alone.
What kind of place are you trying to build a contrast to when you paint the internet as a place where people act badly? Real life, where you would get punched by some redneck for saying something that displeases them?
Unless you set this digital world in contrast to an utopian world, your comparison seems kind of awkward.

Basically, see this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GIFT
Yes, people tend to be more polite in my surroundings IRL than on MAL. In fact, they were more polite in my school (when I was still in school) too, though we occasionally got into fights. If schoolchildren were as bad as people on the internet, they would've spent most of their time in the hospital.
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Because it's from Japan and it looks wierd to the general public and the people that are mostly seen in the public eye are almost always the wierdest fucks in the world.

It's too foreign to people so it's disgusting and odd in there eyes.
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Most people in the west don't hate it because people don't care enough to hate it
Anime is something that takes getting used to and people usually already have enough interests elsewhere, so there usually isn't a reason for them to invest in something they may not even like that already has a storytelling style that differs from what they're used to
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the only reason is : "it's cartoon so it's for kids".

I actually agree with them, most anime are stupid enough to be for kids but I still watch them

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Basically, see this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GIFT
Yes, people tend to be more polite in my surroundings IRL than on MAL. In fact, they were more polite in my school (when I was still in school) too, though we occasionally got into fights. If schoolchildren were as bad as people on the internet, they would've spent most of their time in the hospital.


That is a very widespread - distorted - analogy.

Of course people you are close to are more polite to you, because of the consequences involved. They have to deal with you on a frequent basis, the same counts for people working at the same place as you.

But people you meet over the net are strangers to you, aren't they? The only people over the net you assume to act like douches are not the people you add on facebook or e-friends you make over the net. They are always strangers to you.

Strangers have no reason to act polite towards you, whether you are in real life or in the net. Some people visit foreign places just so they can go hog wild at some place where they aren't known.

That analogy makes actually very little sense if you are honest with yourself.

Just the fact I don't know some random foreigner who visits my town doesn't mean we shouldn't be polite to each other.

For example, if you're walking down the street and ask a person you don't know how to get somewhere, you're going to get a reasonable answer. Even if it's just "I don't know".
If you're on the internet, and ask a person to recommend you an anime, you're likely to get recommended Boku no Piko, Glassslip or Utsu Musume Sayuri.
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It's a combination of both Anime itself and it's fans.

I mean, we take a look at a hardcore fan of Breaking Bad. What do we see? Someone unreasonable, usually.

Take a look at a hardcore fan of Kancolle. What do we see? Something we wish we didn't.

It isn't fair, but there it is. We're judged by the extreme side of Anime Fandom. And Anime itself, of course, is seen as childish. Not just because it's a cartoon, but because just look at the popularity of things like Kancolle. It's popular simple because of the cute teen moe girls.

How are you supposed to explain that, then try to explain that Berserk and Shigurui is awesome? I cannot begin to count the amount of times people have told me what I've said on YouTube is irrelevant because of my profile picture.

It ain't fair, but of those of us who are judged, it's a good lesson to do the opposite, I think. Keep your chins up, tell them to open their closed minds, and walk off into the sunset.

Yeah.
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The extreme fans are the ones who are the most vocal about their fandom. Judgments about the fandom are made based on the actions of the most vocal.

Most people are content enough to only look that far at a situation. Most people don't take the time to look into it any further and to consider the perspectives of the other people involved.

They told us in elementary school that you can't judge a book by its cover, but people still do it anyway. Thinking about something deeply is hard for most people and most others are simply too lazy to try.
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It's not because of the medium. It's us. The community surrounding anime is just shit, and no one with any sense wants to be around us. Perverts, misogynists, people lacking any kind of social awareness.... who wants to be associated with that?
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keimaconquesta said:
2 years ago, I joined MAL. Later, after things happened, I've always been up to date with the seasonal anime, but lol the current season is exempted.

That aside, Whenever I see the list of anime for the season, I watch at least 2-6 of them. These 2-6 anime I watched every season seems to be decent, and they aren't weaboo-like.

Now my question is, what does the mass really hate about the anime currently? Is it just a part of anime, specifically the anime that is for sexual entertainment? Anime nowadays aren't really weird or trying to be from my experience in watching seasonal anime, and the stories are good.


If they're anything like me they just find the fans annoying, awkward and just plain not very nice or approachable people and this is coming from someone who likes anime. The fanbase just has a lot of image problems that IMO it's kind of earned. Again coming from someone still kind of on the inside.

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It's not because of the medium. It's us. The community surrounding anime is just shit, and no one with any sense wants to be around us. Perverts, misogynists, people lacking any kind of social awareness.... who wants to be associated with that?


Glad I'm not the only one.

*Looks even further above*

Where was this level of self-awareness a year ago or do people just finally agree that things have gotten that bad.
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I disagree, anime has never been more popular in the mainstream as it is today.

Just look at the phenomenon that is AOT.
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they just think there's too many boobs and ass I guess
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A little bit of ignorance, a little bit of negative stereotypes(there's exist any positive),and a little bit of annoying fans on the internet, maybe because they're snob, maybe because the are weirdos, maybe because they are annoying.
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Well, when you said anime. You got those tropes who always occur, obscure eye, the absent of a lip, a line for a nose, have to name a every single attack, etc.

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For me it was less do to with the fans (since almost all of my friends are big on anime) and more to do with the anime themselves that scared me from watching them. I thought the art was weird (and it was a while before I started to like it. There are still some styles I can't stand though) and I always associated anime with stuff like Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, and Dragon Ball Z (which just doesn't interest me) and with video games (which I don't play). That's because that's all I ever saw on TV or online. I didn't even know there were SoL, comedy, horror, etc. anime until I actually started to watch for myself. So, based off my experience, I would say the general masses just don't know everything anime has to offer.
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I would say the general masses just don't know everything anime has to offer.


Its like most things, when the majority of people don't know something they tend to fear or hate it. Which makes things like the news and social media very easy to manipulate people into hating or fearing something very quickly, before common sense or a bit of research into the subject dispels the fear/hate.
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I disagree, anime has never been more popular in the mainstream as it is today.

Just look at the phenomenon that is AOT.
Except for that small period in the 90s where DBZ, YYH, Sailor Moon, etc. were big
Yup, anime sure has never been as popular then as it is today
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