| people already predict that way before France bombing. but some people keep telling them being racist or heartless. meanwhile some other people notice that among the refugees, there's a lot of young men more than women or children |
INTP (Ne) A hound, begging for scraps at the emperor's table |
| will this mean USA voters will vote for a republican president? |
| As an American and a resident of one of the states refusing to take in any Syrian migrants, this is good news to me. The United States in general should not be taking in anyone at all from the middle east unless we fully verify who they are and monitor them closely if the are accepted. Sorry, but it's better to be cautious than sorry. For once I'm happy the U.S has this right wing stance. Look where the far left politics have gotten Europe. |
j0x said: will this mean USA voters will vote for a republican president? Republican you say?  |
SlawadiaNov 16, 2015 6:28 PM
Too bad they don't have much of a choice, the people will be placed where they'll be placed. Like those are the only people coming in through the State Department |
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
Salvatia said: j0x said: will this mean USA voters will vote for a republican president? Republican you say? thats just on the republican voters stats though im curious on who has the total expected votes regardless if the candidate is republican or democrat i hope we will not see a war hungry republican president again as a world leader especially during this time |
j0x said: I hope your joking...i hope we will not see a war hungry republican president again as a world leader especially during this time |
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
Fiction-S said: I'm not going to support this as this country is largely responsible for the indirect creation of this terrorist militant group. Take responsibility. You're okay with normal citizens being put in danger because of the actions of the government? |
Fiction-S said: toolazytopick said: You're okay with normal citizens being put in danger because of the actions of the government? I'm not okay with putting anyone in danger, but I'm also not okay with holding down a group of people from a certain nation. We're doing the same shit we did with Japanese citizens and Japanese Immigrants (albeit no concentration camps) back in world war 2 and we're starting our little ISIS witch hunts here in the states. This is also a problem of ethics. That comparison is nonsensical at best. In WWII we unjustly detained Japanese people who were US citizens which is a lot worse than keeping potentially dangerous migrants out beforehand which is the right thing to do. |
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| Damn, Minnesota has such a larger amount than most states of people wanting to help ISIS. Knowing how my state stands in a lot of issues, I don't think we will refuse to let refuges enter. I kind of like the Mall of America, but what ever. |
| In my honest opinion, as a resident of the U.S I do not believe we should be letting these refugees in. Considering Paris and how the attackers disguised themselves as refugees, I doubt bringing in refugees would do any good. Plus, another thing to think about is that if they do come, will the American Society accept them? Most likely no, many people already discriminate against muslims and these Syrians might fall victim to this discrimination, possibly even have it worse. In addition, think about the amount of immigrants in the U.S already, most of them illegal actually. We should solve one immigration problem before bringing in these new ones. Futhermore, the immigration laws in the U.S are quite complex (I get confused by them) and always changing. Although, I feel bad for the refugees, and believe that they should have a second chance. The Paris attack ruined their chances of escaping the war torn Middle-East. As of now I wait on NATO and what they would do about Article 5. I am quite interssted to see what happens next. |
Super_cool said: Damn, Minnesota has such a larger amount than most states of people wanting to help ISIS. Knowing how my state stands in a lot of issues, I don't think we will refuse to let refuges enter. I kind of like the Mall of America, but what ever. It's due to the poverty in the Somali communities over there, the poverty drives some to turn to treason which is not good at all. |
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| My state will most likely accept the refugees. I have no problem with it because this was already a set obligation, their backgrounds are being looked at very closely now, and I'm not some scared kid. These are refugees, trying to flee to a safe place. Why would we turn them away, in place for others. Those states are big proponents for the right to bear arms, would've thought they would welcome a time to use it. I prefer America doesn't take in anyone, but because it does, there might as well be some refugees from that region, in the group. |
SilverstormNov 16, 2015 7:58 PM
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
| Well honestly the US can handle them better than western Europe because its not really so much a socialist country. It depends on where you place them in the US really. |
DaRainmaker said: Let's think about this logically here please. What are all these refugees running from? It should be obvious; it's the same thing we're scared of as well - ISIS, terrorism, etc. I know we're scared...I'm scared. But just because one or two terrorists hid themselves among the (1 million?) refugees doesn't mean we have to become assholes. These people are running from the same forces we are scared of. If we turn our backs on them, the refugees have nowhere to go and then we have this "us vs. them" mentality, which is EXACTLY what ISIS wants. ISIS wants to show the Muslim world "Hey look America doesn't care about you guys; join us and lets blow em up." Starting to make sense a little now...? If you wanna learn more about the refugee crisis, watch John Oliver. He actually gives really good news in an interesting way. this is the most naive post i've seen all day "I know we're scared...I'm scared." This is irrelevant. They are not scared, they are responding appropriately to a perceived threat. "just because one or two terrorists hid themselves among the (1 million?)" ISIS literally said that they planning to attack major western cities by sending fighters along with the refugees. "If we turn our backs on them, the refugees have nowhere to go" The countries bordering Syria. Why do they have to go all the way to Western Europe specifically. Oh wait, it isn't because they are fleeing from war, it's because they're trying to move to a higher standard of living by leeching off Nanny states. 80% of those "refugees" coming into Europe aren't even women or children, but able-bodied men. "this "us vs. them" mentality, which is EXACTLY what ISIS wants. ISIS wants to show the Muslim world "Hey look America doesn't care about you guys; join us and lets blow em up." Starting to make sense a little now...?" It's true that they plan to alienate muslims and make them vulnerable to indoctrination. However that is even more of a reason why the borders should be closed and immigrants already residing in the western countries should be properly screened. No amount of perceived discrimination or oppression justifies terorrism. No civilized person will do it. And all of it isn't being done to bully muslims, it's to ensure national security. Rational muslims will consider it as an unfortunately necessity. If they don't like it, then they can fuck off. also watching a comedian for political insight LOL |
SlawadiaNov 16, 2015 8:47 PM
DaRainmaker said: Let's think about this logically here please. What are all these refugees running from? It should be obvious; it's the same thing we're scared of as well - ISIS, terrorism, etc. I know we're scared...I'm scared. But just because one or two terrorists hid themselves among the (1 million?) refugees doesn't mean we have to become assholes. These people are running from the same forces we are scared of. If we turn our backs on them, the refugees have nowhere to go and then we have this "us vs. them" mentality, which is EXACTLY what ISIS wants. ISIS wants to show the Muslim world "Hey look America doesn't care about you guys; join us and lets blow em up." Starting to make sense a little now...? If you wanna learn more about the refugee crisis, watch John Oliver. He actually gives really good news in an interesting way. thats the democrat and compassionate way, and i can somehow understand that point even though i do not completely agree with it but 1 or 2 terrorists can still do a lot of damage especially if they are highly skilled, so there is still a high risk of terrorism being done |
Not_Zura_Katsura said: Plus, another thing to think about is that if they do come, will the American Society accept them? Most likely no, many people already discriminate against muslims and these Syrians might fall victim to this discrimination, possibly even have it worse. It depends on where you put them, with the huge muslim population in Minneapolis and other places in the United states, I'm sure they will feel accepted in that community if nothing else. I think you're right, no matter what there will be some discrimination against them, but with the right profile checking and maybe some anti ISIS propaganda we can ease the tension. Or maybe not, I'm sure it's a lot harder than that. |
DaRainmaker said: Salvatia said: this is the most naive post i've seen all day also watching a comedian for political insight LOL (Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah, John Oliver) are the most objective sources of news. Please stop. You're killing me. |
| My parents were in Paris on friday. THANK GOD nothing happened to them but why should we risk the same type of attack here? its not worth the risk tbh. Also side not i live 15 min from NYC and i go to college 15 minutes from Washington DC where ISIS said they would attack next and I really hope the government wont add to the chance of an attack by accepting refugees we know nothing about. |
Hoppy said: .....not accepting migrants from Syria into their states LOL, you don't need to be a Syrian refugee to bomb US. |
#CHEXIT |
DaRainmaker said: Celestrial2 said: My parents were in Paris on friday. THANK GOD nothing happened to them but why should we risk the same type of attack here? its not worth the risk tbh. Also side not i live 15 min from NYC and i go to college 15 minutes from Washington DC where ISIS said they would attack next and I really hope the government wont add to the chance of an attack by accepting refugees we know nothing about. I understand you're scared. I totally understand that. But we should not let our fear screw over millions of people. More importantly, you shouldn't let a poorly informed sense of altruism screw over tens of millions of people. |
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
Imeon said: Hoppy said: .....not accepting migrants from Syria into their states LOL, you don't need to be a Syrian refugee to bomb US. Muslims are generally a lovely and peaceful people as long as they represent under 1-2% of the population. You'll never stop radicals from committing crimes on a small scale, but keeping their numbers low in general ensures that they can't begin large-scale ideological genocide, which is the most important thing. From what we can tell from the world around us at this day: a 60% Christian, 1% Muslim nation will result in some offended Muslims; a 60% Muslim, 1% Christian nation will result in some dead Christians. |
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
DaRainmaker said: Yes, 1 or 2 terrorists can do lot of damage as very clearly evidenced by the attacks in Paris. I don't disagree with that. But that doesn't mean we close doors to ALL refugees. We can have quotas maybe. And we would also have to implement a very strong vetting process. you know what who close all the doors to this refugees? all the rich Gulf States nations, why are this Gulf States not taking their own people by religion? this Gulf States should do more than the western nations right? so i agree with Bernie Sanders when he said he will force this Gulf States to take in more refugees and join in the fight against ISIS too |
| Holy shit DaRainmaker's posts are so cringeworthy He is just masturbating to his own self righteousness at this point Screw reality and logic, these poor people need a home boo hoo :,( We should all accept these people at the expense of the stability of entire nations |
DaRainmaker said: j0x said: you know what who close all the doors to this refugees? all the rich Gulf States nations, why are this Gulf States not taking their own people by religion? this Gulf States should do more than the western nations right? so i agree with Bernie Sanders when he said he will force this Gulf States to take in more refugees and join in the fight against ISIS too I agree. Gulf States should hold some responsibility. nah not some but more responsibility since they are the same people by religion and culture anyway and also its their neighbor country |
| I cant really blame countries who are doing this, but don't you think this could have some negative effects? Resentment can only increase from here. This is playing into ISIS's hands. |
DaRainmaker said: Caelidesu said: More importantly, you shouldn't let a poorly informed sense of altruism screw over tens of millions of people. Without things like altruism, this world wouldn't go round. Naturally, but you can't conflate the political and the personal. Feeding your neighbour and stealing your neighbour's house so that a stranger can live in it can't both be simply called 'altruism'. DaRainmaker said: Listen, I don't think we should let all the refugees but I don't think we shouldn't let in any either. We need a middle ground. I say take in an many as we can (however many that is) and implement a strong vetting process that ensures each migrant is safe and legal. The idea of moderation in all things leaves you unable to take any effective and decisive action. It's great to show restrain in some situations, but in others it's suicidally stupid. If some furniture in your house is on fire you don't look for a middle ground and put out some of the fire. DaRainmaker said: I agree wholeheartedly with this.I say take in an many as we can (however many that is) and implement a strong vetting process that ensures each migrant is safe and legal. |
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
Caelidesu said: Muslims are generally a lovely and peaceful people as long as they represent under 1-2% of the population. You'll never stop radicals from committing crimes on a small scale, but keeping their numbers low in general ensures that they can't begin large-scale ideological genocide, which is the most important thing. From what we can tell from the world around us at this day: a 60% Christian, 1% Muslim nation will result in some offended Muslims; a 60% Muslim, 1% Christian nation will result in some dead Christians. Seriously? You quoted it from that Islamophobe who been spreading shit across Yahoo to Youtube! |
#CHEXIT |
Imeon said: Caelidesu said: Muslims are generally a lovely and peaceful people as long as they represent under 1-2% of the population. You'll never stop radicals from committing crimes on a small scale, but keeping their numbers low in general ensures that they can't begin large-scale ideological genocide, which is the most important thing. From what we can tell from the world around us at this day: a 60% Christian, 1% Muslim nation will result in some offended Muslims; a 60% Muslim, 1% Christian nation will result in some dead Christians. Seriously? You quoted it from that Islamophobe who been spreading shit across Yahoo to Youtube! I didn't quote that from anyone else. I simply arrived at the same conclusion. |
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
| Watch this viral video, it will show you what is happening and what will happen to Europe. |
| Care, leftists will call you xenophobic |
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Fiction-S said: I'm not going to support this as this country is largely responsible for the indirect creation of this terrorist militant group. Take responsibility. "Innocent men, women and children must pay for the sins of the media and government" yeah, no thanks. |
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Mooncake said: Wouldn't that make them more likely to be criminals ?traed said: I think Detroit and New Orleans are suitable. Just put half in each.Well honestly the US can handle them better than western Europe because its not really so much a socialist country. It depends on where you place them in the US really. |
traed said: Mooncake said: Wouldn't that make them more likely to be criminals ?I think Detroit and New Orleans are suitable. Just put half in each. Old criminals and new terrorists would slaugher each other so nothing bad would happen |
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