| I also never understood the 4 min "commercial" anime. |
| -better fit with source material, or anime content -not enough budget or demand for a longer series -easier to get a timeslot on TV with (maybe) -pandering for people who want bigger anime lists |
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| why not? |
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| how could a show's nature be better suited to such short episodes, everything is better when it's longer think of anime where each episode is actually 3-4 shorter stories.. mostly comedy shows do this, and the stories themselves were (likely) individual manga chapters i get the budget part i guess, but i dont get the pandering. that was a bit of a MAL joke.. as in, if you watch a full length series or a short series, your list still gets just +1 completed do they eventually become full scale anime? rarely, yes (Nyaruko-san anyone?) i guess this can be a reason too.. just to test the waters before going in with a full adaptation have they considered simply merging the episodes together to make them longer? not the creators themselves, but on youtube i've seen a video with all episodes of Pupa and There She Is combined into one |
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Thedudeist said: how could a show's nature be better suited to such short episodes, everything is better when it's longer. i get the budget part i guess, but i dont get the pandering. do they eventually become full scale anime? have they considered simply merging the episodes together to make them longer? Have you seen Hetalia? It's a bunch of comedic shorts that only take up around five minutes. What good would it do to extend it to a standard full episode? They'd basically just smush it together. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
Thedudeist said: being an ONA, they're not stuck to a fixed time per episode, so everything possiblei see, so basically theyre using a smaller budget with shorter stories. i guess you could also say that while full anime has scenes which may be stagnant and annoying, something with such a short time frame will be short but sweet. Thanks guys, oh and this was mostly me referencing the new monster strike and RWBY, though im still not sure if thats an anime or not. Thankfully the longer RWBY is going the longer the episodes are getting, maybe monster strike will be the same. as for RWBY, i prefer the term Anime Influenced, which is how it's tagged on hummingbird (you might have noticed RWBY is not on MAL) |
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| It helps keep a maybe less than extensive plot very focused and not have tons of filler. A really good example of this done right is Rec. 9 episodes at about 12 minutes each, but the story remains very focused and interesting the entire time. While I still think it could've been good with more run time, it doesn't need it at all. |
| Because minimalism is pretty cool. Watch Ohayo by Satoshi Kon and then you know what I'm saying |
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| Usually the short animes are based on '4-koma' manga. Which are more like short (comedy) sketches. So they usually aren't really suitable for a long episode, although it probably depends on the source material, as Acchi Kochi (also 4-koma) got full length episodes. |
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| Sometimes it's because the manga isn't long enough to adapt it to anime without filler. Wakaba*Girl has 10 chapters and was adapted into a 13 episode anime with 8 minute episodes. Seinen anime don't usually have filler so I think this was the most logical decision. Yama no Susume had a 42 minute first season and a 324 minute second season. I'm not completely sure why they did it this way, but I think the longer episodes in the second season worked in their favour. Princess Tutu had 13 episodes that were 24 minutes and then ran for another 25 episodes which were 12 minutes. In the DVD the shorter episodes were compiled back into full length episodes. In Chi's Sweet Home they aired four 3 minute episodes each week: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and the episodes in a each week formed a single story. Each season is technically 104 episodes that are 3 minutes each but it would be easier to watch them as 26 episode anime with 10 minute long episodes (the OP is 30 seconds). Chi's Sweet Home is a kid's show and I'm pretty sure it aired in the morning so I guess it makes sense. |
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| I don't get the hate on short shows, a lot of them work better that way. |
| Why not? |
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| bcoz yuo pirate |
| Twitter and it's consequences had been a disaster for the human race |
| RWBY is a piece of shit. |
| Nothing wrong with a good short story. |
| If Teekyuu was any longer it would be insufferable Thank goodness it only comes in small bites |
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| Could be it's easy with smaller budgets. It could also be the source material doesn't have enough content for full episodes or it is better suited for a short series. |
| Insert philosophical quote or exceptional picture here. |
| I'm not sure, at least the ones I've seen obviously don't have enough time to really make you care about the characters, last one I watched was (voices of a distant star) and it was pretty bad, as the only feeling it gave me was boredom, honestly I don't think short anime (between 5 and 25 minutes) are a good idea, maybe that just because I haven't seen one done particularly well |
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silverwalls said: why not? |
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| This is why: |
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
| I like watching short anime. Most are just whacky but there are some that are really good. Pupipo!, Tonari no Seki-kun (a bit long at 13 minutes per episode), Yami Shibai, Danna ga Nani wo Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken, and Chi's Sweet Home (which was already mentioned) are all examples of good short anime. At least in my opinion, others may think differently. |
TFO1013Nov 8, 2015 8:13 AM
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| Are you talking about independent shorts and stuff? It's just impossible to regularly put out long stuff if you're working on your own, plus it often isn't even needed to bring across the intended point of a short. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I guess they have even less confidence in it being good so they just make 4 minute episodes for 12 and toss that out. I don't know if they just aren't given a budget or what but it usually happens with comedies that don't have much story. Hetalia is probably the better one as it's made up of shorts anyways explaining national trends and cultures and maybe some history. Kowabon is a horror but as far as I've seen it's not really stroy driven, just a ghost possesses someones computer and plays with their social media each episode. Kappa no Kaikata has a faceless person take care of a kappa as a pet. It's also just shorts with comedy at times so not much else they would have done otherwise. Plus tic Nee san (Plastic Nee san idk) is just a short kind of dumb comedy about girls who have plastic models in the background, I guess if it was ever going to be an anime it would just be a bunch of shorts. Military, another random, kind of dumb comedy with a bit more loli fan service and explosives. Not much else but atleast it has some what of a story or plot. Pupa is supposed to be about a girl infected by a virus that causes her to turn into a man eating insectoid. It gets better, her brother also gets the virus and it causes him to regenerate and sort of be immortal. It gets better, their father abused them because I think their mother was impregnated with the girl artificially and she became a masochist or something like that. It gets better, I think the girl eating her brother to suppress the monster transformation is supposed to be like incest sex. Overall I think I would have liked it a lot more if they actually took the time to make it a full length 12 or even 10 episode series with 22min episodes. It's trash but I still think it had a chance. While Hetalia does this method better than most others, I think they could have worked out an actual story and made something like Azumanga where each episode has a theme of which short moments they adapt. |
| as art i suppose, that being said they do seem to lack in the story department the best one ive seen is (Taifuu no Noruda), i though it was quite good, the worst was probably (voices of a distant star) just really boring, no character development and the dub sucks bricks, and it reminds me of saikano which i also hate. |
Pispas said: The fuck? |
Ptrico94 said: I guess they have even less confidence in it being good so they just make 4 minute episodes for 12 and toss that out. I don't know if they just aren't given a budget or what but it usually happens with comedies that don't have much story. That was already explained. It's because most short comedies are adapted from 4-koma manga. If you don't know what a 4-koma manga is then check one out and you'll see why they are almost never adapted into full length episodes. |
TFO1013Dec 3, 2015 8:04 AM
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| if we didn't have short anime we wouldn't have bikini warriors.. shame on you for suggesting such heresy. |
| So you're implying that you dislike the first 8 minutes of "Up" independently? |
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| I see, some short shows (3D included) are worth watching tbh especially Thai ads. |
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| Because the best of them do more in 10min than most 12hr anime. |
Thedudeist said: You said: I see, some short shows (3D included) are worth watching tbh especially Thai ads. damnit, everytime you post, i think i did it.stopp eeehht. Yes, I am You. admit it. :3 |
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HandsomeMan said: I also never understood the 4 min "commercial" anime. 4 min is still better. there is 2 min anime now, in this season. "Komori-san wa kotowarenai" |
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| A lot of long-running mainstream anime use a shorter format. An episode of Sazae-san actually consists of three shorter episodes, for instance. Doraemon's split into shorter episodes more often than not, too. The longest-running kids shows that air several days a week instead of just once, like Nintama Rantarou and Ojarumaru, have 10 minute timeslots. |
| To expand your anime list |
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Thedudeist said: how could a show's nature be better suited to such short episodes, everything is better when it's longer. i get the budget part i guess, but i dont get the pandering. do they eventually become full scale anime? have they considered simply merging the episodes together to make them longer? Well, a single manga chapter is usually much shorter than a whole anime episode. |
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