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Apr 14, 2015 7:07 AM
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So I've had this question that placed me in perplexity for while...

God as religion cases is an inescapable substance that is evidently the inventor of everything.

God recognizes what will happen later on and everything that has happened in the past yet as again as religion cases.

So the way people will acts for the duration of their lives is now situated in stone and will never show signs of change. Yes people reason their activities, however at same time god knows everything.

So whether that individual supplicates or not is situated in stone. Unchangeable regardless of what happens.

As religion cases God made this world to test the individuals he has made.

Presently salaries my inquiry:

In the event that God knew what each and every human will ever do in his/her life, what's the purpose of judging those known destinies later?

Where's the fun and anticipation in that?
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Apr 14, 2015 7:09 AM
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Nah we will be bored if God didnt test us
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God is a bully
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Because Zeus said so.
Apr 14, 2015 7:13 AM
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Think of it like a chess game.


can manipulate the pieces but everyone has free will.
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Remv_quevav said:
Nah we will be bored if God didnt test us


Why is that?

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Thanks for your honesty.

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Apr 14, 2015 7:14 AM
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Coolspot said:
Think of it like a chess game.


I don't get it :/
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Kenneth_ said:
Remv_quevav said:
Nah we will be bored if God didnt test us


Why is that?
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Think of it like a chess game.
He can manipulate the pieces but everyone has free will.

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Remv_quevav said:
Kenneth_ said:


Why is that?
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Think of it like a chess game.
He can manipulate the pieces but everyone has free will.



Does that mean that God doesn't know everything?
But he does x__x
Apr 14, 2015 7:21 AM
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What does that have to do though? :/
Apr 14, 2015 7:24 AM

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That's like asking why the wolf dressed up as grandma when he could have just sprung on Little Red in the woods.
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Kenneth_ said:
Praland said:
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What does that have to do though? :/

He it's sadist, should be obvious :/
Apr 14, 2015 7:27 AM
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Praland said:
Kenneth_ said:


What does that have to do though? :/

He it's sadist, should be obvious :/


Thanks for clarifying.

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That's like asking why the wolf dressed up as grandma when he could have just sprung on Little Red in the woods.


I can see where you're coming from.
Apr 14, 2015 7:28 AM

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Kenneth_ said:
Praland said:

He it's sadist, should be obvious :/


Thanks for clarifying.

I'm glad of helping.
Apr 14, 2015 8:04 AM

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He justs like sitting back and eating popcorn.
Apr 14, 2015 8:07 AM

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The better question would be:

If God knows what's going to happen, why is "God's punishment" such a thing?
Like, what.


Apr 14, 2015 8:08 AM
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Tigervu said:
He justs like sitting back and eating popcorn.


But it's no fun though.
Questioning and testing the obvious for everyone billions of times :/

AzureDaora said:
The better question would be:

If God knows what's going to happen, why is "God's punishment" such a thing?
Like, what.


That's a reasonable question too.
Apr 14, 2015 8:09 AM

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Trying to place logic in religion, good luck with that.
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Spooky_Love said:
Trying to place logic in religion, good luck with that.


Okay :3
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As a person who did arguments against both Atheists and Theists almost every single effin day before, it's hard to convince religious people to admit that some of their beliefs don't make sense, and just go with the stereotypical phrase that is "I have faith".


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Praland said:
Sadism


AzureDaora said:
As a person who did arguments against both Atheists and Theists almost every single effin day before, it's hard to convince religious people to admit that some of their beliefs don't make sense, and just go with the stereotypical phrase that is "I have faith".


Well,and most likely,faith is all there really is to it.
Apr 14, 2015 8:26 AM

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Ugh what a question for an atheist.
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Christianity is fundamentally nonsensical, what else is new?
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Baman said:
Christianity is fundamentally nonsensical, what else is new?


skitarii avi irony.
Apr 14, 2015 8:54 AM

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Spooky_Love said:
skitarii avi irony.
Hey hey, the Omnissiah is totally legit man, if not then how do you explain all the machine spirits, huh? Checkmate Heretech!
Apr 14, 2015 8:56 AM

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Kenneth_ said:
Remv_quevav said:


Does that mean that God doesn't know everything?
But he does x__x
probably like that
isnt that amazing???
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Apr 14, 2015 9:08 AM

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We don't have Free will we have Free choice
we are being judged on our choices

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The lack of lord jesus in this topic saddens me
Apr 14, 2015 9:33 AM

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Ok, so imagine God knows everything that's going to happen. It still needs to actually happen though. If it doesn't actually happen then God 'knew' things that didn't happen. Like God used this world to test but can see through time to the results, but needs to let the simulation run anyway or those results would never come to pass and thus wouldn't be the results.
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Apr 14, 2015 9:43 AM
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coming from a person that doesn't believe in god, you can't predict people's choices and they do what is needed or desired.
Apr 14, 2015 10:01 AM
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I actually see it as different possibilities. I see it as a different scenarios. So basically God knows what are the infinite paths we can take in the future but he does not know which path we will take, that is up to us and hence the free will part. Basically nothing we do will surprise him but at the same time we have our own choice of choosing our own path.
Apr 14, 2015 10:26 AM

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What if we are god, and were just doing things because we've already experienced everything else in past lives and got bored? Karma is just the physical law by which our next life will be determined.

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Apr 14, 2015 10:32 AM

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Apr 14, 2015 10:37 AM

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Ok, so imagine God knows everything that's going to happen. It still needs to actually happen though. If it doesn't actually happen then God 'knew' things that didn't happen. Like God used this world to test but can see through time to the results, but needs to let the simulation run anyway or those results would never come to pass and thus wouldn't be the results.


w-w-w-what?

I don't get it. At all.


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icirate said:
Ok, so imagine God knows everything that's going to happen. It still needs to actually happen though.


Hmm That's ridiculously hypothetical though.

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If it doesn't actually happen then God 'knew' things that didn't happen. Like God used this world to test but can see through time to the results, but needs to let the simulation run anyway or those results would never come to pass and thus wouldn't be the results.


But you said he can see through time..
Meaning the results are STILL set in stone xD
As in God knows everything and exists everywhere. Implication : Omnipresence.
So the results to God would still be obvious.

I still don't get your point though..

Trying to prove?
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Spooky_Love said:
Trying to place logic in religion, good luck with that.

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AzureDaora said:
icirate said:
Ok, so imagine God knows everything that's going to happen. It still needs to actually happen though. If it doesn't actually happen then God 'knew' things that didn't happen. Like God used this world to test but can see through time to the results, but needs to let the simulation run anyway or those results would never come to pass and thus wouldn't be the results.


w-w-w-what?

I don't get it. At all.

It's like a man saw a sheep running towards the edge of the cliff, "Hey don't go there, it's dangerous you could fall!", but the sheep keep on running and it fell, and then the man said "Told ya so!"

What a jerk.
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azzuRe said:
AzureDaora said:


w-w-w-what?

I don't get it. At all.

It's like a man saw a sheep running towards the edge of the cliff, "Hey don't go there, it's dangerous you could fall!", but the sheep keep on running and it fell, and then the man said "Told ya so!"

What a jerk.


A man creates two figures out of clay.
He drops one from one height, knowing it will not break, as he has done it thousands of times.
He drops another from a different height, knowing it will break, as he has done it thousands of times.
When it does break, he curses and condemns it, blaming the clay figure for falling so far.

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icirate said:
Ok, so imagine God knows everything that's going to happen. It still needs to actually happen though. If it doesn't actually happen then God 'knew' things that didn't happen. Like God used this world to test but can see through time to the results, but needs to let the simulation run anyway or those results would never come to pass and thus wouldn't be the results.


Yep, along the lines of this.
It's just like Minority Report. Being arrested for a crime you will commit in the future prevents you from committing said crime, so that invalidates the arrest in the first place.

I know it's kind of hard to follow, but you were given brains to think people, so use em.
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Because Zeus said so.

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God knows
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Its all one big stack of dominoes just waiting to be toppled over, the pictures there, it just needs to be painted.
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Trying to place logic in religion, good luck with that.
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Kenneth_ said:


So the way people will acts for the duration of their lives is now situated in stone and will never show signs of change. Yes people reason their activities, however at same time god knows everything.

So whether that individual supplicates or not is situated in stone. Unchangeable regardless of what happens.

As religion cases God made this world to test the individuals he has made.

Presently salaries my inquiry:

In the event that God knew what each and every human will ever do in his/her life, what's the purpose of judging those known destinies later?

Where's the fun and anticipation in that?
:/

Well this way God doesn't send people instantly to hell, he waits until there're dead. I think that's pretty fair, isn't it?
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Religion is used to control people

God is fiction
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-JonasTheJay- said:
Kenneth_ said:


So the way people will acts for the duration of their lives is now situated in stone and will never show signs of change. Yes people reason their activities, however at same time god knows everything.

So whether that individual supplicates or not is situated in stone. Unchangeable regardless of what happens.

As religion cases God made this world to test the individuals he has made.

Presently salaries my inquiry:

In the event that God knew what each and every human will ever do in his/her life, what's the purpose of judging those known destinies later?

Where's the fun and anticipation in that?
:/

Well this way God doesn't send people instantly to hell, he waits until there're dead. I think that's pretty fair, isn't it?

Sounds like a dick-move if he's just waiting for them to do bad stuff so he can throw them into hell, your analogy is a bit off I think.
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By the time you assume god is real, you must throw away all of the laws of commone sense you know. Because IF you believe that god is real, he is an omnipotent source of everything, a being so complex and mysterious the human mind will never comprehend it.
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