Tokyo Ghoul √A Episode 1 Discussion

Journey_95 said:
even as a anime only watcher I don't get why Kaneki joined up with the bad guys??
To Manga Readers what happened in the manga as opposed to what we got?

Oreo_Assassin said:
Kaneki is honestly one of the most badass characters in fiction

Journey_95 said:
even as a anime only watcher I don't get why Kaneki joined up with the bad guys??
To Manga Readers what happened in the manga as opposed to what we got?

Shiiiru said:
Manga readers can't answer that as Root A is anime original story seperate from the manga.

emxutaxmine said:


I wanted more Uta. :(

Journey_95 said:
even as a anime only watcher I don't get why Kaneki joined up with the bad guys??
To Manga Readers what happened in the manga as opposed to what we got?

Doomcalibar12 said:
One thing that confuses me is WHERE DID HE GET THE MASK FROM? lol

Doomcalibar12 said:
One thing that confuses me is WHERE DID HE GET THE MASK FROM? lol

Maya24 said:


Sometimes you don't have to worry about little things. But if you really want an answer, it's called "Hammerspace".

yaHzee said:
Having not known about the alternative universe I was so damn confused in this episode. I read the manga and was like "huh?." I'm not sure if I like this, I'd be okay with this alternate adaptation if a faithful adaptation was announced, especially with the way the original manga ended and tokyo ghoul:re being the sequel.

Doomcalibar12 said:


The thing is, the original TG manga ending was very loose ended and ended off on an awkward note. Had they done a faithful adaptation to the manga it would have been rushed like season one since they're only planning to do 12 episodes as a sequel. And don't worry about what happened at the end of this episode....obviously they're not going to reveal everything that's in Kaneki's head right now. He has a plan and we all gotta wait to see what he's up to. There's a risk in doing a totally new anime adaptation without a manga but that doesn't mean it can't be better than the manga. Especially since the original manga set the standards so low (Still hope Kaneki breaks a certain someone's bones in this adaptation).

Doomcalibar12 said:


The thing is, the original TG manga ending was very loose and ended off on an awkward note. Had they done a faithful adaptation to the manga it would have been rushed like season one since they're only planning to do 12 episodes as a sequel. And don't worry about what happened at the end of this episode....obviously they're not going to reveal everything that's in Kaneki's head right now. He has a plan and we all gotta wait to see what he's up to. There's a risk in doing a totally new anime adaptation without a manga but that doesn't mean it can't be better than the manga. Especially since the original manga set the standards so low (Still hope Kaneki breaks a certain someone's bones in this adaptation).

yaHzee said:


I honestly liked the original manga better. Yeah the ending was a bit weird, but I thought it made the sequel even more exciting. However, I guess it's possible that while this season is deviating quite a bit, the end result could be the same just in a shorter time span which could make tokyo ghoul :re possible. In that case I'm okay with it lol.

monarchyanarchy said:

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Censor Ghoul's back at it, better than ever!

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Pknoctis said:
nothing important worth quoting.

Tyrel said:
Kay. You guys can stop the bashing toward each others different respective shows now. Continuation will be seen as derailment from the actual episode.

Kagami_Hiiragi said:
That was amazing. It not following the manga is not a bad thing, if anything this material is better than anything S1 did.

PriestSlayer said:
It is written by Ishida so that is to be expected. S1 nailed the symbolism at episode 12 and the whole Kaneki torture scene though, those flowers were really meaningful and a great addition to the anime.

Maya24 said:
The reason why he joined the bad guys is probably to get closer to his enemies and destroy them from the inside.

SharifEbeefE said:
Goodness they just introduced like 8 new characters... what in the world is going on.

Kagami_Hiiragi said:


Yeah, S1 did do that well.

If S2 stays this strong, this could be a really memorable show.

kingsheep812 said:
Well... it was ok i guess. i mean the fight scenes were decent but the ending was somewhat retarded. I also heard that it took a different path from the manga. In the manga apparently he did not join Aogiri. I wanted to see Kaneki smash in Tohkha's brother's face... so lame they had to join forces. Damnit.

chickiefoo said:
Soooo.. Kaneki totally had his mask in his pocket the whole time?

Phoenix_XIII said:
I'm gunna probably come off as super pretentious in this, but I don't really care, just fair warning:

I HAAAATED this episode. Don't get me wrong, the voice actors were great, the animation was crisp, and they finally got rid of the stupid censoring; but hoooooooly shit, why is it so much to ask that an anime series follow it's manga source material?

I absolutely love the Tokyo Ghoul manga. The storytelling is beautiful, the responses to situations are realistic and the lore and mystery behind everything kept me reading right into constantly refreshing the page in hopes of seeing the new chapter of :re.

This episode single handedly destroyed all of what Tokyo Ghoul was going to evolve into. To cover my tracks, I did like Season 1; there were some changes made that were understandable, some that were unnecessary, and some that actually hindered the characters and their development (specifically the fact that Touka and Kaneki trained fairly often and Kaneki was becoming pretty good at fighting before being kidnapped by Aogiri, and the details of how cannibalism would make ghouls stronger and develop their kakuja), but all in all, it was passable.

Season 2 so far has completely destroyed what could be.

::Spoilers Ahead::

1) Yamori was still alive. Suzuya killed him, earning Suzuya his first Quinque and a promotion. This episode underplayed how sadistic and badass Suzuya is by eliminating that brief fight.

2) Kaneki's fight with Ayato was UNDERWHELMINGLY performed. He was supposed to "half kill" Ayato by breaking 103 of his 206 bones, showing that Kaneki had become much more dulled to the idea of harming another person. This was also the first display of his new level of badassery and a revealing factor that Ayato still wanted to protect Touka

3) Kaneki Joinin Aogiri instead of banding together with Banjou, Tsukiyama and Hinami in order to bring down Aogiri. Not even dipping into the impact this has on Kaneki's relationship with his crew and the implications that has on his own personality when it comes to balancing his friendships with his much darker side, this new change of story has uprooted everything that could happen with Tokyo Ghoul

4) This one is minor, but Kaneki was the one who freed Banjou and company from the prison, making Banjou feel even more indebted to Kaneki, and all the more willing to join his campaign against Aogiri. Instead, Tsukiyama breaks them out with one flimsy line that could possibly be reasoning behind Banjou and Tsukiyama joining up with Kaneki later in the season ("Are you one of Kaneki's friends?" "Yes.")

::End Spoilers::

I am heartbroken by the changes that were made and this new direction they seem to be going in. All I can hope is that Tokyo Ghoul ends and a few years later we get a new series that will actually follow the story the manga has laid out, similarly to how we had Fullmetal Alchemist, and then the supremely better (and actually canon) Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.

All I know is that if they take away Kaneki's mental breakdowns, I might have a mental breakdown.