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Oct 1, 2014 5:56 PM
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Should they rate their anime based on the objective quality? (art, sound, story, character development) Or should they rate an anime based on just how fun it was, thus being a biased and relative opinion? Remember that the ranks matter a lot so we must choose the right decision
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Oct 1, 2014 6:00 PM
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While rating anime objectively is mostly impossible, I believe we should do so to the best of our abilities.

If we are rating anime just for the "enjoyment" we personally elicited from the content, we aren't providing a valuable baseline to compare to our personal fetishes.

We can still use tag keywords on the animes themselves to highlight which ones we enjoyed beyond their objective ranking, though the counter-argument of laziness, lack of sympathy for objective ratings / record-keeping, is completely legitimate
How do people get to 2000 hours when I'm already this bored?
Oct 1, 2014 6:00 PM
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people rate anime based on their enjoyment
and some review anime based on their enjoyment
no one cares about objective quality, cause u like it = good quality
Oct 1, 2014 6:02 PM
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You make the second option in your poll sound stupid so people are less likely to pick it, but essentially that one. I rate an anime based on the quality, how many errors it may or may not have had, but biggest factor is enjoyment or as you say 'how fun it was'
Oct 1, 2014 6:03 PM
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i rate based on how i enjoyed it, being elitist is too much effort
Oct 1, 2014 6:04 PM
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I rate by personal enjoyment. But even if I give a high rating to something that's shit, because I liked it, I can still admit it's shit or that it's flawed.
Oct 1, 2014 6:08 PM
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A show can be really good but if you don't like it what is the point of giving it a high rating?
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Qans said:
You make the second option in your poll sound stupid so people are less likely to pick it, but essentially that one. I rate an anime based on the quality, how many errors it may or may not have had, but biggest factor is enjoyment or as you say 'how fun it was'
What do you mean I made it sound stupid? It is true. Enjoyment is relative.
Oct 1, 2014 6:08 PM
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I try to take both matters into consideration, and also some other underlying factors. No matter how much I enjoyed an anime, I will rate it down if it failed objectively, and the same goes for if it succeeded objectively, but kept me bored and uninterested throughout.
Oct 1, 2014 6:10 PM

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The way I see it is that your anime list is meant for you, so you should write it however you want. The best option is the one that you're most comfortable with.

Why do ratings matter a lot?
Oct 1, 2014 6:11 PM

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Protaku94 said:
I try to take both matters into consideration, and also some other underlying factors. No matter how much I enjoyed an anime, I will rate it down if it failed objectively, and the same goes for if it succeeded objectively, but kept me bored and uninterested throughout.
Now that is a good, reasonable person.

If anything, enjoyment makes me more prone to ignore some small details that would have lowered the score otherwise. For example, I can ignore the fact that Clannad's ending was a huge asspull, because I enjoyed it a lot.
Oct 1, 2014 6:12 PM

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I generally take both into consideration.

However, I personally think you should rate an anime based on how it made you feel. The whole point of "stories" are so that you can be entertained. If an anime entertains you, even if it's story was fairly mediocre, than the anime still did it's job. It entertained you.

To be rather frank though, I don't think it really matters how you rate it. I don't see a problem with either way of rating anime.
Oct 1, 2014 6:12 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
Moog- said:
The way I see it is that your anime list is meant for you, so you should write it however you want. The best option is the one that you're most comfortable with.
It's called MyAnimeList. Obviously that means all the lists on MAL are mine so you have to rate based on what I want you to rate.

Otherwise you're wrong.

What's so bad about being wrong if you rate something based on your personal opinion?
Oct 1, 2014 6:13 PM

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How should others rate?

I am in favor of making the 'pick a number out of a hat' rating system universal, but alas most people don't appreciate the idea.

One day.
Oct 1, 2014 6:13 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
]Says "academic concepts." Uses the phase "lazy art techniques."

I have cancer. brb getting chemo
Except for lazy art is something real. Some studios don't draw the hands, or make use of dumb coloring to avoid drawing details, and so on. There was a list with many examples, but I can't find the link. Anyway, you fail
Oct 1, 2014 6:14 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:

Moog- said:
What's so bad about being wrong if you rate something based on your personal opinion?
Is my sarcasm just not any good today? >__>

I just wanted to push you to see if you'd say something interesting.

Disappointed.
Oct 1, 2014 6:19 PM

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Both. Typically on how much I enjoyed it though typically if an anime is good objectively I will end up ending at least some aspects of it.
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Oct 1, 2014 6:22 PM
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Enjoyment, I don't even take anime seriously or care enough to rate if objectively, anime is just another small hobby for me. We are not required to critique anime.
Oct 1, 2014 6:25 PM
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rate like me
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Oct 1, 2014 6:25 PM
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Zergneedsfood said:
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Enjoyment, I don't even take anime seriously or care enough to rate if objectively, anime is just another small hobby for me. We are not required to critique anime.
No. If you don't critique anime you're a failure as an anime watcher.
I fail at being an anime watcher? Fuck yes.
Oct 1, 2014 6:27 PM

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FGAU1912 said:
rate like me


No ty, I'm scared to click on your list
Oct 1, 2014 6:29 PM

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Neither, people should rate how ever the hell they want, or better yet they shouldn't rate them at all because all that leads to is fights over people having shit taste.
Oct 1, 2014 6:30 PM
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Zergneedsfood said:
ScazoN said:
I fail at being an anime watcher? Fuck yes.
You need to rate like me.

1 Impact on Impact on MURICA both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in MURICA [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs
3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework (was he born in MURICA)
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in MURICA and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in MURICA and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation] (how many times do we hear "AMERICA FUCK YEA"
9 merchandise sales (obviously in MURICA)
10 art style
11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] (specifically in MURICA)

As you can see it's pretty objective. Based on this rating, I think we can all agree Bocu no Pico encapsulates the idea of Murica the best and is therefore the only 10/10.
thats too fucking weeby and otaku level, No thanks

implying this at youknowho
Oct 1, 2014 6:33 PM
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Zergneedsfood said:
ScazoN said:
I fail at being an anime watcher? Fuck yes.
You need to rate like me.

1 Impact on Impact on MURICA both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in MURICA [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs
3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework (was he born in MURICA)
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in MURICA and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in MURICA and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation] (how many times do we hear "AMERICA FUCK YEA"
9 merchandise sales (obviously in MURICA)
10 art style
11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] (specifically in MURICA)

As you can see it's pretty objective. Based on this rating, I think we can all agree Boku no Pico encapsulates the idea of Murica the best and is therefore the only 10/10.


mock me and get reported
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Oct 1, 2014 6:34 PM
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ScazoN said:
Zergneedsfood said:
You need to rate like me.

1 Impact on Impact on MURICA both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in MURICA [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs
3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework (was he born in MURICA)
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in MURICA and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in MURICA and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation] (how many times do we hear "AMERICA FUCK YEA"
9 merchandise sales (obviously in MURICA)
10 art style
11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] (specifically in MURICA)

As you can see it's pretty objective. Based on this rating, I think we can all agree Bocu no Pico encapsulates the idea of Murica the best and is therefore the only 10/10.
thats too fucking weeby and otaku level, No thanks

implying this at youknowho



who moi
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Oct 1, 2014 6:34 PM
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yeah get reported, mocking the boss is a sin

and no not you

Oct 1, 2014 6:35 PM

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FGAU1912 said:
Zergneedsfood said:
You need to rate like me.

1 Impact on Impact on MURICA both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in MURICA [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs
3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework (was he born in MURICA)
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in MURICA and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in MURICA and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation] (how many times do we hear "AMERICA FUCK YEA"
9 merchandise sales (obviously in MURICA)
10 art style
11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] (specifically in MURICA)

As you can see it's pretty objective. Based on this rating, I think we can all agree Boku no Pico encapsulates the idea of Murica the best and is therefore the only 10/10.


mock me and get reported


Wow
Oct 1, 2014 6:39 PM

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Neither, people should rate how ever the hell they want, or better yet they shouldn't rate them at all because all that leads to is fights over people having shit taste.
What? So things that lead to fight should be banned? I guess we should ban guns, politics and anime in that case.
Oct 1, 2014 6:43 PM
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FGAU1912 said:


mock me and get reported


Wow



i sick of getting mocked on here i just got back from a ban for using what some wpuld call Bigoted langauge but was not that now i will report all those who mock me in the same why i got reported fir minor things
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Oct 1, 2014 6:58 PM

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FGAU1912 said:
Praland said:


Wow



i sick of getting mocked on here i just got back from a ban for using what some wpuld call Bigoted langauge but was not that now i will report all those who mock me in the same why i got reported fir minor things

Calm down you're on the internet
Oct 1, 2014 7:00 PM

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Oct 1, 2014 7:11 PM
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I try to rate objectively so some of my guilty pleasures like Uta Prince get 5 and unfavourites like Elfien lied get 9. I don't know, I just prefer to use that way
Oct 1, 2014 7:13 PM

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Doesn't make a difference. Just rate a anime a score you think it deserves. You could do it both ways I don't care.
Oct 1, 2014 7:16 PM

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Rate everything a 10 besides Sword Art Online and you'll be alright.
Oct 1, 2014 7:20 PM

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Rate how you feel it, not how other feel it. If you like a Anime that average a score of 6-7 and you like it enough then put it at whatever you like.
Oct 1, 2014 7:25 PM

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What a pointless thread this is. Why do people on MAL constantly seek approval from strangers and ask stupid questions like these?
Oct 1, 2014 7:26 PM

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I guess you really did think your objective/subjective thread met a conclusion with objectivity being true.

My Vote: Nope.
Oct 1, 2014 7:38 PM

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I jut rate on how much I enjoyed the anime.
MAL: A community that thinks every anime is bad, but rates everything a 7/10.
Oct 1, 2014 7:39 PM
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However the hell they want, enough said

I wonder who tells people how to rate, those people must have absolutely no life at all
Oct 1, 2014 8:02 PM

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Rate it however the fuck you want because who gives a shit.
Oct 1, 2014 8:43 PM

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Just like me.
I probably regret this post by now.
Oct 1, 2014 8:54 PM

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Everyone should rate their anime like me. /sarcasm
Oct 1, 2014 8:59 PM

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I rate my anime based on my enjoyment
Oct 1, 2014 8:59 PM

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Most people usually rate anime based on how much they can fap to it.
Also known as enjoyment.









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Oct 1, 2014 11:17 PM

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The wording for both options are a bit messed up.

I would lean more toward the first (though calling it "true" is a bit much). Others should rate however they want. Different people watch for different reasons, and enjoyment is no less valid a method of rating than another.
Oct 1, 2014 11:26 PM

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There is no such thing as objectivity, people that try and rate smth like take just come off as more bias and obnoxious.

People should just rate based on how much they liked it, try-hard elitists are annoying.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:44 PM

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if i choose animes based on whether or not it will entertain me, ill rate it based on whether or not it entertained me.
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Oct 2, 2014 12:18 AM

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This makes me think of my literature class . . . anime is for fun, so of course I'm rating on how enjoyable it is. I also do look at the other things, but that is still based on how I liked it and how it made me feel.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

No truer words. No right or wrong way of seeing something. What is wrong is to claim your way is better than someone else or degrade their view to prove that yours is superior; which just plain bullying in my opinion.

     
Oct 2, 2014 12:26 AM

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Whichever way they want. The only time I think you might be able to argue objectivity is if you're doing it as a profession, but if you're not? Go nuts.
Oct 2, 2014 12:52 AM

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A bit of both I guess. Might depend on my mood too.
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