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Sep 15, 2014 10:30 AM
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So the Minimum users are really on the move this time...

I got this weird Tokyo ESP feeling right now since they are declaring a revolution against the world. Hajime was awesome this episode but things are getting out of control. Did Nice die from that stab? Yikes.
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Sep 15, 2014 11:54 AM
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hmm it is interesting so in the end Art had very Buddhist goal
creating world of no desires.

Buddhism and Christianity tells that ego creates desire and desire creates sin. If you free yourself of ego and desires you achieve Nirvana a state of not wanting anything you simply are happy though you dont have anything. -

I myself dont know if ego and wanting sth is necessary wrong, it gives hapiness but after some time it goes away and in the end we want sth more, but as long we wont hurt others I guess it should not be a problem of wanting sth as long as it does not hurt others

or is it better to not want anything and meditate whole life as you can also be happy this way, but at the same time this vision of world seems kinda creepy ;o people not doing anything just happy kinda like Huxley nightmare
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Sep 15, 2014 12:13 PM
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I don't feel bad for Art. I don't think he will survive even if he does how will he earn forgiveness? I just can't stand him right now, he is very self righteous.
Sep 15, 2014 12:39 PM
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well as i have written earlier he is not self righteous in fact he is very selfless like Moral in creepy way though xD
and like Moral nobody asked him for this
Sep 15, 2014 1:04 PM
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Never knew Art had a little brother. He almost looked like a trap. O.o

So, Master used to be a part of the Minimum Agency Lab? Good to see how resolute he was to save Hajime and even took Koneko along with him to build Cafe Nowhere.

> "Let's do this shit!" XD
Sakuraba's song sure is deadly, but it had a nice ring to it too!

I was hoping Honey's dad would finally die. This guy is annoying. >.<
Ishigami isn't such a bad villain; though at least he gave those soldiers an onsen bath while killing them in process. XD

Had a feeling Art would soon betray Freemum for his selfish purpose. Damn, he's badass; subdued all 3 of them in an instant!

So, did Nice finally die this time or is it another troll? I say it's the latter.
A bit sad to see all the people including Minimum Holders have been engulfed by the side effects of the chain reaction Hajime has started..

Good episode. Did I just hear Moral voice in the next episode's PV? O.o

Sep 15, 2014 1:16 PM
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So, Is Birthday dead, has Art really killed Nice?

In the end Art did betrayed the Freemums.

One more to go.
Sep 15, 2014 1:20 PM
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Hamatora is not great, but this conclusion is very good for this type of anime, i like the episode, i expect good things of the final chapter.
Sep 15, 2014 1:26 PM
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Okay, what the hell happenned???

I promise, if Nice dies I'll hate this anime forever.
Sep 15, 2014 1:52 PM
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I never knew Art had a little brother.

Art betrayed Freemum.

Let's hope Nice isn't dead this time.
Sep 15, 2014 2:01 PM

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kinda missed the opening, but what an episode. pretty brutal too, all those deads. I expected that Art would betray Freemum, but not that this was his goal... and please don't tell me Birthday and Nice died... ;-;
wow I'm so curious for the next and last episode. argg. I really hope that Art doesn't die, but well... that's something I can only hope for. happy end? I hope so, but I think not.
Sep 15, 2014 2:14 PM

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My reaction 0 {} 0

Please Skill appear !!!!!! Reset everything OMG this is a nightmare T______T
Sep 15, 2014 2:54 PM

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Young friends. No OP.

Learning about Hajime-chan minimum. Oh, that guy was one of the scientists.

Freenum group causing terrorism, for ex-police, but he paralyzed him.

Ogata-san's character's nickname for Kitamura-san's character: Oppai-chan, and she just let Hajime-chan go.

Killing him again? So that Hajime-chan will release her minimum. Everyone losing the minimum and are laughing stupidly.

That preview... is he going to...? One more ep.
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If Nice is really dead, this would turn to be the worst second season ever. Seriously.
Anyway, intense, totally brutal episode.
Sep 15, 2014 3:08 PM
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Well that was interesting... It was only a matter of time before Art betrayed the Freemums but I didn't expect him to actually shed blood. That's payback for Gasquet!
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Sep 15, 2014 3:26 PM
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I hope Nice isn't dead, that'd be one of the worst things EVER! I mean, they like fake killed him off, and I hope everyone gets their minimum powers back.
Sep 15, 2014 3:27 PM

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Art having a younger brother called Skill!
A lot happened this episode. Learning that Master was part of the research team which he decided to abandon everything to save Hajime and Koneko!
That singing minimum, what an opening with that line. A power that does not allow others to leave or they would die.
Ishigami wanting to be the ruler of the city. Dealing with the government's special forces like it was nothing.
Ishigami with his group getting killed by Art.
Art stabbed Nice so Hajime's minimum would activate to its full power. To cleanse the world from having minimum and desire. To be a selfless world, didn't see that coming!
Hope Nice survives somehow.
Sep 15, 2014 3:45 PM

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Well I really do hope Nice isn't dead, he survived that gun shot to the heart as a kid right after Hajime used her minimum so maybe that's what's going to happen again. There was that bright white light next to the dark purple one. I'm guessing Nice may have another minimum he might not know about that can bring him back to life. Similar to the one Art seems to have. Because I still don't know how the hell he survived that, he was clearly dead.

Art sacrificed to much if you ask me, there is no hope for him having a good end in my opinion. Too many innocent people have died because of him.
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wel that was bloody and more about the past
Sep 15, 2014 4:00 PM

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Guys, think for a sec. Nice had the strongest minimum after he was hit by the nihilist the first time. However, he shouldn't have had the ability at all. There is more to Nice's or Hajime's minimum. Anyone have thoughts on this?
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Sep 15, 2014 4:05 PM

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Lol, Art is a good guy or a bad guy? Confusing.~

Fucked up ending.
Sep 15, 2014 5:01 PM

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Art will probably die next week.

One thing I don't get is how Art still has all those minimums that he injected into himself. Does the Nihilist ability not work on him? Since Saikyou said something about him being the last one with powers.
Sep 15, 2014 5:27 PM

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Nice isn't dead. He'll probably pop out in a comedic fashion next time just as he always does.

Can't stand Art. What a self-righteous *expletives*.
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Sep 15, 2014 6:20 PM

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I think it might be possible that Nice survives since in the preview for the final episode someone says, "How does it feel to be reborn?"
Sep 15, 2014 6:41 PM

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uran10 said:
Guys, think for a sec. Nice had the strongest minimum after he was hit by the nihilist the first time. However, he shouldn't have had the ability at all. There is more to Nice's or Hajime's minimum. Anyone have thoughts on this?


I like where this theory is going.

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Lol, Art is a good guy or a bad guy? Confusing.~

Fucked up ending.


It's not over till it's over.

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Nice isn't dead. He'll probably pop out in a comedic fashion next time just as he always does.


Everything will be daijobu...?


Maaan this episode blew my mind in so many ways! Boss and Koneko had backstory? Boss had hair?? Wooah so many civilian deaths! Are they seriously gonna kill everyone? Three saved the oppai! Art had a sis- HE'S A GUY?? Waht? Did Art just kill everyone? Is Nice dead- again? Wadafuuuu is even going on anymore?

Man at this rate this anime will end up the same as the Cafe:

Nowhere.

Man that was really bad. But seriously, with plot development like this episode instead of filler, Re: Hamatora is actually getting

Somewhere.

Ok ok I'll stop now. But I really do hope they give us an awesome mind-****ing episode next week or at least tie up all lose ends.
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Sep 16, 2014 3:59 AM

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I think the Nihlism minimum has actually taken effect on Art. Too happy and everything, just like everyone else. Whatever, I hope Art and that Saikyou bitch gets their just karma. Did it effect her too? I have this CRAZY theory about her...

Still, I wished Hajime just picked her up and threw out of the frick'in window before actually.

Boss and Koneko getting some backstory was interesting though. Those spec ops dudes absolutely pathetic. 19th century tactics much? At least have some snipers.

This better end well.
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HalfMetalJacket said:
I have this CRAZY theory about Saikyou...


Could you please elaborate? I think she's really powerful and I have this lingering feeling of dread that she will somehow become/create the villain for a third season, since I don't think the show will end with next week's episode. Maybe Moral will come back since we heard his voice in the preview?!

By the way, I wonder why Momoka didn't lose her desires like what happened to Murasaki, Ratio, Honey, her dad, Three and everyone else... She looked totally unaffected. I hope she will be affected because it would be bullsh*t if she weren't.
Sep 16, 2014 11:42 AM

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With the way this episode ended, I expect a full-on comedy for the final episode.
Sep 16, 2014 12:22 PM
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Wow, that was a brutal episode...

But more than that, I'm surprised everyone forgot about Art's little brother... I mean, come on, he visited his grave in season 1, which is also where Moral originally 'killed' Art. Do you guys really have that short of a memory?
Sep 16, 2014 1:46 PM

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Yup, an 8/10 is now more likely.

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With the way this episode ended, I expect a full-on comedy for the final episode.


LOL, this so much xD
Sep 16, 2014 2:26 PM
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But more than that, I'm surprised everyone forgot about Art's little brother.?


So do i O.o i was waiting to know more about him from the first season but they said nothing about what happened to him!

Ishigami is that stupid ! I mean, i expected more from him i though he was going to understand Art's real motivation ( it was so predictable x_x )
Sep 16, 2014 3:03 PM

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uran10 said:
Guys, think for a sec. Nice had the strongest minimum after he was hit by the nihilist the first time. However, he shouldn't have had the ability at all. There is more to Nice's or Hajime's minimum. Anyone have thoughts on this?

Of course there should be something more to their minimums. They wouldn't slip up and make an ENORMOUS plot hole.
Sep 16, 2014 3:43 PM

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uran10 said:
Guys, think for a sec. Nice had the strongest minimum after he was hit by the nihilist the first time. However, he shouldn't have had the ability at all. There is more to Nice's or Hajime's minimum. Anyone have thoughts on this?

Of course there should be something more to their minimums. They wouldn't slip up and make an ENORMOUS plot hole.


Agreed. Hope it gets touched on or explained in more detail next ep!
Sep 16, 2014 3:44 PM

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Art. What. The. HELL!!! I seriously want to kill him right now...
There're some screws wrong with your head man! Get it together!!! I don't think this is the world that your brother wants.

I hope Nice won't die :( Please let it be a troll like last time.

It feels so weird seeing people laughing like that, especially with Ratio laughing on Birthday's near death bed.
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HalfMetalJacket said:
I have this CRAZY theory about Saikyou...


Could you please elaborate? I think she's really powerful and I have this lingering feeling of dread that she will somehow become/create the villain for a third season, since I don't think the show will end with next week's episode. Maybe Moral will come back since we heard his voice in the preview?!

By the way, I wonder why Momoka didn't lose her desires like what happened to Murasaki, Ratio, Honey, her dad, Three and everyone else... She looked totally unaffected. I hope she will be affected because it would be bullsh*t if she weren't.

Perhaps Saikyou has already been affected by it, when Hajime first released it. For all we know, she might have been there. Maybe her void is the fact that she no longer feels any desires as a result of the Nihlism minimum.

It's likely tied to why Nice is alive. Perhaps he revives when the Nihlism minimum activates. Maybe he restores people as well, I mean everyone at the facility did not lose their desires for some reason afterwards. Maybe Saikyou was unlucky enough not to recover.

It's not a very coherent theory though, but we'll see.
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This episode was just wtf at the end. Sorta anticlimatic to me but I'll see how they wrap up all the missing questions that were popped up in previous episodes. Also, they better fix all the people who have euphoria at the moment.
Sep 16, 2014 7:05 PM
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Yeah I think they are trying to make me not appreciate this anime anymore.

I mean really?

So disappointed. Total letdown on this episode.
Sep 16, 2014 9:54 PM

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What the hell, Art.
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Sep 16, 2014 10:56 PM

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The villain won? WTF !? Did not expect.
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only one more episode till the show is over and i still dont know what the heck is art's goal. if its to erase all minimums then why does he want to do that? what does he achieve by erasing all minimums? why did he only start after morel shot him? before morel shot art he was normal and didnt really display his psychotic tendencies. All i can say is that the plot is all over the place.
Sep 17, 2014 2:01 AM
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The bad guy wins?!
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Fastest revolution ever.
Sep 17, 2014 5:54 PM

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lol well this is pretty much a bad ending huh...not sure i feel about it
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Fastest revolution ever.


-shakes head- Poor guy..he saw it coming but couldnt stop him.

AND WTF is up with this ending...Wuuttt...how can they possibly return to time before Art *coughs* To hell with this!!

Well played, Art! Well played! *throws down gloves*
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Sep 17, 2014 9:19 PM

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Also, the MHs out of that zone(nihilist minimum radius) must be laughing their asses off.
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What is it with this season's animes and "supposed anti-heros claiming to fight for a just cause because they suffered in their childhood and think it's perfectly okay to commit mass murder to further their cause"? I mean, Art, Ishigami, that b*stard in Tokyo ESP, seems this season is filled with a-holes like that.
Sep 19, 2014 6:44 PM

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in the end, he is just selfishly doing thing.
i think that is also form of ego, everything he has done is for the sake of his little bro,
selfles? yeah right, after seeing murasaki and doctor laughing off when their friend in a dire situation like that, ain't no way thing is right -_-

and please kill ultimate. saikyou? bullshit, she just have money, and if every human in that area losing their desire, why she hasn't changed?

and without desire and ego, humanity will not progress.
Sep 20, 2014 1:49 AM
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Somehow I have the feeling they just want to kill the main character in this show. It's basically the first season all over again. Besides that it was way too obvious what the goal of Art was(well at least the reasoning behind it is still unclear).

uran10 said:
Guys, think for a sec. Nice had the strongest minimum after he was hit by the nihilist the first time. However, he shouldn't have had the ability at all. There is more to Nice's or Hajime's minimum. Anyone have thoughts on this?


I was wondering the same when we first saw that memory. Nice shouldn't have had a minimum anymore after their failed escape. I'm wondering how he even survived that.

Hmm I'm curious what we'll see next episode. They can't revive Nice AGAIN(that would be just lame) but it would also suck if he actually died. I hope they tell us the reasoning behind Arts actions but to be honest I don't expect that to happen.
Sep 20, 2014 4:01 AM
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Its getting even worse,
Art is a true piece of shit and it seems like Birthday is Dead ;___;
Another troll there about nice? YES.

Fuck this shit, lets wait for the next episode.
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I was right that Art's reasons had to do with his brother. Still, he got manipulated real bad by Saikyou.
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