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Gundam Unicorn is better than both.
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Cowboy Bebop soundtrack > all.
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I dunno, the soundtrack hasn't really stood out to me at all thus far. I mean, it doesn't take away from the series at all, but I still haven't hit a moment where I've stopped and said "Damn, that's a good soundtrack."
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I dunno, the soundtrack hasn't really stood out to me at all thus far. I mean, it doesn't take away from the series at all, but I still haven't hit a moment where I've stopped and said "Damn, that's a good soundtrack."

I feel the same too.
They put the sountrack bit far-fetched imo.
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SayonaraSelena said:
KazukiTachibana said:
I dunno, the soundtrack hasn't really stood out to me at all thus far. I mean, it doesn't take away from the series at all, but I still haven't hit a moment where I've stopped and said "Damn, that's a good soundtrack."

I feel the same too.
They put the sountrack bit far-fetched imo.

I hardly even notice it at all, tbh. Yet another aspect of this show being hyped up to all hell.
Jul 20, 2014 7:51 PM
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KazukiTachibana said:
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I feel the same too.
They put the sountrack bit far-fetched imo.

I hardly even notice it at all, tbh. Yet another aspect of this show being hyped up to all hell.


I don't like the music, therefore if other people like it, it's just hype.
Jul 20, 2014 7:53 PM
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Personally, I disagree.

This OST is not a Zetsuen no Tempest or Magi, nor is it even remotely similar in quality to those two yet. Those are just 2 anime with great OSTs that just popped into my head right now, and there are many, many other works within the last two years that I've listened to which I consider far better than Aldnoah Zero's OST. Sure, we haven't heard all of the score in Aldnoah Zero, but so far nothing I have heard amazes me to the point where I can declare it as the best OST since Fate/Zero.

Besides, this OST is the same rote Sawano we have already heard in AoT and KLK, shows that came out after Fate/Zero, so even if you consider his works to be the finest anime music has to offer, I find it strange that you declare Aldnoah's OST to be superior over Sawano's previous works.
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Kanno Yugo is the best.
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I'm just waiting for kaioshin.

It's nice, but definitely not the best.
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Kanno Yugo is the best.


I believe that's the person that's signed on to do the soundtrack to Gundam: G no Reconguista, just thought I'd throw that out there.

And what is it with fandoms increasingly narrow and generic taste in music and it's particular obsession with this idea of Yuki Kaijura and Hiroyuki Sawano as the only possible good or noteworthy composers. As a long time aficionado of anime OST's I find it kind of insulting that people always seem to be insinuating these two are the flat out best and how they're the only two people seem to care about and continually putting on a pedestal. Honestly neither Fate/Zero nor this are even their respective composers best works by a long shot and pretty phoned in at that. People really need to start broadening their horizons when it comes to anime soundtracks a little more cause this whole Sawano/Kaijura worship is getting really bloody old and just continues to show me that people really have no appreciation for anime music at all. There's far too much good stuff out there for it to forever be all about these two.

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Personally, I disagree.

This OST is not a Zetsuen no Tempest or Magi, nor is it even remotely similar in quality to those two yet..


Zetsuen no Tempest probably had my favorite soundtrack of 2012/2013 and more or less put Michiru Ooshima (also fantastic in Patema Inverted) on the map for me. I love how she's able to carry emotion so strongly through her music and how it works so well as a driving force for key scenes in the show. With this show it's almost like Sawano hasn't even seen the series or taken the time to match his music too it in a meaningful way that carries scenes so much as makes people go "OMG EPIC". In fact I continue to get the impression lately that he just kind of cooks some random grinding riffs up in his studio at home, calls in Cyua, Mika Kobayashi or whoever to belt out some lyrics in German and Engrish to it, slaps some weird sounding title with leetspeak onto the file, does this again 15 or so more times and then basically calls it a soundtrack. Cue everybody completely losing their shit over how "epic" it sounds and the OST becoming a best seller despite offering nothing new that distinguishes it from his last soundtrack.

Life must be really easy being a composer like Hiroyuki Sawano at this rate. It's like he doesn't even have to put any effort into anything anymore and it shows because no matter what people go absolutely fucking apeshit for his "epic" sound like it's as fresh as it was 5 years ago and will call it the soundtrack of the year. It's pretty sad since I used to like the guy, but easy success has pretty much ruined him. He's pretty much guaranteed never to evolve as an artist, change it up or try to tailor his tracks to the show he's composing for like a Yoko Kanno or Hisaishi Joe.
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tl;dr subjective things
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
DawnJ said:
Kanno Yugo is the best.


I believe that's the person that's signed on to do the soundtrack to Gundam: G no Reconguista, just thought I'd throw that out there.

And what is it with fandoms increasingly narrow and generic taste in music and it's particular obsession with this idea of Yuki Kaijura and Hiroyuki Sawano as the only possible good or noteworthy composers. As a long time aficionado of anime OST's I find it kind of insulting that people always seem to be insinuating these two are the flat out best and how they're the only two people seem to care about and continually putting on a pedestal. Honestly neither Fate/Zero nor this are even their respective composers best works by a long shot and pretty phoned in at that. People really need to start broadening their horizons when it comes to anime soundtracks a little more cause this whole Sawano/Kaijura worship is getting really bloody old and just continues to show me that people really have no appreciation for anime music at all. There's far too much good stuff out there for it to forever be all about these two.


I agree wholeheartedly. I personally really dislike Sawano’s work, and while I think Kajiura can be alright, she has been incredibly repetitive recently.

While I don’t like Sawano at all, and could probably write an essay as to why, I can see how people like his music, and don’t really have a problem with other people enjoying his music. Everybody has different genres that they like.

My main issue with Sawano supporters is where they proclaim time and time again that his work is best, and that people who disagree are wrong, and stupid. All the while, they cannot explain exactly why Sawano is the absolute best, beyond that it sounds “epic” to them. I too, listen to many, many anime OSTs, oftentimes without seeing a single minute of the anime for which they are composed for. Without having the benefit of images and action accompanying a score the music I listen to really has to stand out for itself, and it is here where Sawano falls terribly flat for me. I personally got into orchestral music at a young age and thus pretty much all music that I like, from anime OSTs, to metal bands, generally have some sort of influence from classical music, especially music from the romantic period. If Sawano supporters incensed at my stance towards his work really wanted me to explain in depth, I could write up a long explanation detailing my position, something that I don’t really think they can do in return.

That is why, personally, I find composers like Yoshihisa Hirano, Michiru Oshima, Masamichi Amano, and other composers of music that take inspiration from classical styles and a heavy emphasis on themes to be ahead of Sawano.

I think it it’s worthwhile to repeat again that I have no qualms with other people liking Sawano. I simply believe that his music is not for me.

If anything, I am against people who blindly preach their word as fact, and bash others for pointing out the subjective nature of music.
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Cowboy Bebop soundtrack > all.
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Cowboy Bebop soundtrack > all.
Nah

LOVE LIVE Music > Cowboy Bebop > The rest
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micbri said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:


I believe that's the person that's signed on to do the soundtrack to Gundam: G no Reconguista, just thought I'd throw that out there.

And what is it with fandoms increasingly narrow and generic taste in music and it's particular obsession with this idea of Yuki Kaijura and Hiroyuki Sawano as the only possible good or noteworthy composers. As a long time aficionado of anime OST's I find it kind of insulting that people always seem to be insinuating these two are the flat out best and how they're the only two people seem to care about and continually putting on a pedestal. Honestly neither Fate/Zero nor this are even their respective composers best works by a long shot and pretty phoned in at that. People really need to start broadening their horizons when it comes to anime soundtracks a little more cause this whole Sawano/Kaijura worship is getting really bloody old and just continues to show me that people really have no appreciation for anime music at all. There's far too much good stuff out there for it to forever be all about these two.


I agree wholeheartedly. I personally really dislike Sawano’s work, and while I think Kajiura can be alright, she has been incredibly repetitive recently.

While I don’t like Sawano at all, and could probably write an essay as to why, I can see how people like his music, and don’t really have a problem with other people enjoying his music. Everybody has different genres that they like.

My main issue with Sawano supporters is where they proclaim time and time again that his work is best, and that people who disagree are wrong, and stupid. All the while, they cannot explain exactly why Sawano is the absolute best, beyond that it sounds “epic” to them. I too, listen to many, many anime OSTs, oftentimes without seeing a single minute of the anime for which they are composed for. Without having the benefit of images and action accompanying a score the music I listen to really has to stand out for itself, and it is here where Sawano falls terribly flat for me. I personally got into orchestral music at a young age and thus pretty much all music that I like, from anime OSTs, to metal bands, generally have some sort of influence from classical music, especially music from the romantic period. If Sawano supporters incensed at my stance towards his work really wanted me to explain in depth, I could write up a long explanation detailing my position, something that I don’t really think they can do in return.

That is why, personally, I find composers like Yoshihisa Hirano, Michiru Oshima, Masamichi Amano, and other composers of music that take inspiration from classical styles and a heavy emphasis on themes to be ahead of Sawano.

I think it it’s worthwhile to repeat again that I have no qualms with other people liking Sawano. I simply believe that his music is not for me.

If anything, I am against people who blindly preach their word as fact, and bash others for pointing out the subjective nature of music.


Oh I totally know why people like his music, it's the hype. People love the hype and his music gives feelings of hype and thus his music must be awesome and the best because it is the most hype. That said I don't dislike him, I actually love his Gundam Unicorn soundtrack where he put the effort in and doesn't just give off the same vibe all the time. Honestly nowadays it's hard to believe that the guy that composed a track like this is the same guy behind all the blasting in your ears at full volume with screaming vocals guy that people lose there minds over in shows like Kill la Kill and now Aldnoah.Zero. It's just so much more sophisticated and complex in composition and isn't just chaotic overwrought loudness for the sake of loudness which I hate in soundtracks.

Also why somebody else knows Amano? I mostly know him for his Giant Robo soundtrack which is just masterful stirring stuff and many critics acclaim it as one of the greatest triumphs of the OVA. It can be grandiose uplifting, it can be somber, it can be lighthearted and still be epic like people love to love at the same time without having to resort to loud screaming vocals and that same tired hi-hat percussion and droning bass sound that seems to be in all "epic" Sawano songs.
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I enjoyed the Kill la Kill soundtrack though, the tracks that Sawano composes are very distinctive and catchy. You have the familiar "Don't lose your waaaay" and Satsuki's theme which is reminiscent of Star Wars' Imperial March. The tracks are inserted at appropriate moments, from poignant and simple piano themes during melancholic scenes to ominous tracks during moments of increasing tension.

Perhaps the most distinctive part of the KlK soundtrack is the powerful brass, which really does fit with the over-the-top mood of the whole show. Sawano's work on KlK was great imo, I didn't like it because it was "OMG HYPE", I liked it for what it is.

However, it does feel like Sawano is running out of ideas for the OST of Aldnoah and the recycling of his style is becoming obvious.
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It really is a great ost, although I'm not sure it's better than Zankyou's.
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
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2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Jul 21, 2014 7:48 AM

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It's good but not that good.

Oh wait this is just subjective and people are allowed to have different opinions, I almost forgot that after seeing some of the posts here.
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Botato said:
It's good but not that good.

Oh wait this is just subjective and people are allowed to have different opinions, I almost forgot that after seeing some of the posts here.

They are deceived to have those blind opinions because da hype.
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for 3 Episodes yes it is i love it so far
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i don't like how they put vocals in the bgm
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i don't like how they put vocals in the bgm

I really hated vocal songs in SnK. A.Z is slightly better but still I don't like vocals, while it was good in KLK.
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Hell no. I love Sawano to death, but both Tokyo Ghoul and Zankyou no Terror (especially Zankyou no Terror) have shown to possess stronger soundtracks thus far.
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soundtrack is good, but the vocals during epic moments kinda takes away from it =[
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Hell no. I love Sawano to death, but both Tokyo Ghoul and Zankyou no Terror (especially Zankyou no Terror) have shown to possess stronger soundtracks thus far.


Even SAO has a stronger OST than this imo.
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Sapewloth said:
Hell no. I love Sawano to death, but both Tokyo Ghoul and Zankyou no Terror (especially Zankyou no Terror) have shown to possess stronger soundtracks thus far.


Even SAO has a stronger OST than this imo.
Inb4 it's just a Madoka OST rehash and doesn't deserve to be praised by people.
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The dude is just so repetitive with his goddamn music that it's almost borinf at this point. It sounds nice but I can't enjoy if it's almost the same shit that in KlK or AoT with a different tone. That said, F/0 has a nice soundtrack but AoT has the best OST I've heard in an anime yet.
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Ao no Exorcist and Guilty Crown are from Sawano but they are too different, but both of them is amazing.
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The dude is just so repetitive with his goddamn music that it's almost borinf at this point. It sounds nice but I can't enjoy if it's almost the same shit that in KlK or AoT with a different tone. That said, F/0 has a nice soundtrack but AoT has the best OST I've heard in an anime yet.


At this point I honestly would have rather them picked anyone else with an ear for space opera style music and it would have probably gotten me more into the soundtrack, but they need his name as part of their power quartet of staffers in order to drive the popularity of the show so it pretty much had to be him.
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tl;dr subjective things
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Even SAO has a stronger OST than this imo.
Inb4 it's just a Madoka OST rehash and doesn't deserve to be praised by people.


Probably you know everyone needs a reason to hate on every aspect of SAO2. Real talk though this is by far his weakest work and I agree with people that he's rehashing too much. The way he's going Gundam Unicorn will always be his best work, it was so varied and awesome one example dropped in this thread is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycF7G_Y7KXU

That doesn't sound anything like his current work. So far this is disappointing and KLK's was meh as well, if he keeps going at this rate I dunno...I mean even the bits I've heard from Xenoblade sound like SnK.
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Probably you know everyone needs a reason to hate on every aspect of SAO2. Real talk though this is by far his weakest work and I agree with people that he's rehashing too much. The way he's going Gundam Unicorn will always be his best work, it was so varied and awesome one example dropped in this thread is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycF7G_Y7KXU

That doesn't sound anything like his current work. So far this is disappointing and KLK's was meh as well, if he keeps going at this rate I dunno...I mean even the bits I've heard from Xenoblade sound like SnK.

As one of another Sawano's fans, I would agree that a lot of his recent works have the same sound, but mostly the "epic" or intense tracks. Otherwise, I think he's still got it with the softer and emotional types of compositions such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU_lnYCiTac, though yeah, none have been as good as On Your Mark from Gundam Unicorn, nor have his soundtracks sound as diverse as his older ones such as Gigantic Formula, Soul Link, Zombie-Loan (saxes!), or maybe even Iryu. It's a shame because it seems like the past four years or so he's pretty much only being hired for the more action/intense-based anime/movies/dramas. I can only hope that he made Aldnoah.Zero's soundtrack more diverse and different than his most recent anime works (because too much electronic), though I still like most of his compositions anyways. We'll see.

Probably not the best OST of the season though, I agree with Sapewloth that so far, Zankyou no Terror is on top.
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Gundam Unicorn is better than both.


I second this. Nonetheless, I love Sawano works.
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LOVE LIVE Music > Cowboy Bebop > The rest


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Inb4 it's just a Madoka OST rehash and doesn't deserve to be praised by people.


Probably you know everyone needs a reason to hate on every aspect of SAO2. Real talk though this is by far his weakest work and I agree with people that he's rehashing too much. The way he's going Gundam Unicorn will always be his best work, it was so varied and awesome one example dropped in this thread is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycF7G_Y7KXU

That doesn't sound anything like his current work. So far this is disappointing and KLK's was meh as well, if he keeps going at this rate I dunno...I mean even the bits I've heard from Xenoblade sound like SnK.

Reminder that Xenoblade X's soundtrack was composed back in 2012, just not released yet.
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Really was wondering if anyone knew the song that's in the middle of episode 3 during the battle? I like it, must get it!!
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Really was wondering if anyone knew the song that's in the middle of episode 3 during the battle? I like it, must get it!!

The soundtrack is not out yet and won't be until September 10th, but I believe the name of the song is BRE@TH//LESS.
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Really was wondering if anyone knew the song that's in the middle of episode 3 during the battle? I like it, must get it!!

The soundtrack is not out yet and won't be until September 10th, but I believe the name of the song is BRE@TH//LESS.


Not until September 10th? damn. ah well, at least there's a cut of the song part online, thanks for the name!
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The OST is incredibly nice and has some real ear worms, but the best since F/Z? No.
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skudoops said:
Gundam Unicorn is better than both.


Yup. Was going too say watching this gave me a unicorn feel (tho the MC and princess are already better characters)
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It's an incredibly generic soundtrack and indistinguishable from Sawano's other works, I don't get what everyone sees in this. It has that whole obnoxious 'EPIC' orchestra that never stops bombarding your ears, along with the annoying female vocals he puts in every other damn song.

For me, Akame ga Kill or Zankyou no Terror definitely has the best soundtrack of the season. They at least have some sort of flare to them and don't sound like they're from some Hollywood flick.
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LOVE this soundtrack. Easy soundtrack of the season for me and I figured Zankyou would run away with it
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It's an incredibly generic soundtrack and indistinguishable from Sawano's other works, I don't get what everyone sees in this. It has that whole obnoxious 'EPIC' orchestra that never stops bombarding your ears, along with the annoying female vocals he puts in every other damn song.

For me, Akame ga Kill or Zankyou no Terror definitely has the best soundtrack of the season. They at least have some sort of flare to them and don't sound like they're from some Hollywood flick.


Personally I like those two, SAO's and tokyo ghoul's. SAO has the most generic one (because kaijura keeps recycling a bit) but it still fits the show better than this has so far.
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Moonchipz said:
It's an incredibly generic soundtrack and indistinguishable from Sawano's other works, I don't get what everyone sees in this. It has that whole obnoxious 'EPIC' orchestra that never stops bombarding your ears, along with the annoying female vocals he puts in every other damn song.

For me, Akame ga Kill or Zankyou no Terror definitely has the best soundtrack of the season. They at least have some sort of flare to them and don't sound like they're from some Hollywood flick.


You must also hate Hans Zimmer
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Moonchipz said:
It's an incredibly generic soundtrack and indistinguishable from Sawano's other works...


If you're deaf or brain damaged, I guess.

Moonchipz said:
... I don't get what everyone sees in this.


Probably the same things they like about all his other works.

Moonchipz said:
It has that whole obnoxious 'EPIC' orchestra that never stops bombarding your ears, along with the annoying female vocals he puts in every other damn song.


That's your opinion, and it's entirely subjective. There's your explanation, in case the above did not suffice.

Moonchipz said:
For me, Akame ga Kill or Zankyou no Terror definitely has the best soundtrack of the season.


AgK soundtrack is largely forrgettable except the op/ed.

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They at least have some sort of flare to them and don't sound like they're from some Hollywood flick.


As though there were something wrong with that.
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^ For AgK I found it to be the other way around; OP/ED are forgettable but the OST is decent.
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