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Journey_95 said: most pairings were unnecessary except of course Naruto x Hinata and Sasuke x Sakura apart from that a nice ending You don't seem to understand. This was several years into the future. The author intentionally wanted to keep the whole romance and pairings opened to the reader and be up to interpretation. You just have to visualize how many years things could possibly change, and im sure that is what the novels and part 3 of the manga will help to tie up those loose ends. In fact one of the novels the author already officially stated that it reveals sakura's feelings and why she chose sasuke, despite all of the shit he's done. |
ArtimesGamerMar 3, 2015 2:04 AM
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| @ link9us I think you too many eat dirt which made by SP, it was SP who made NS which actually non-romantic into romantic. Only to squeze wallet of helpless pinky flat chest tsundere lover. Example how SP made Sakura so helpless despite her act in manga http://ilikesakura.tumblr.com/post/110196196884/like-seriously-sakura-can-heal-herself-she |
db84xMar 3, 2015 4:45 AM
link9us said: Journey_95 said: most pairings were unnecessary except of course Naruto x Hinata and Sasuke x Sakura apart from that a nice ending You don't seem to understand. This was several years into the future. The author intentionally wanted to keep the whole romance and pairings opened to the reader and be up to interpretation. You just have to visualize how many years things could possibly change, and im sure that is what the novels and part 3 of the manga will help to tie up those loose ends. In fact one of the novels the author already officially stated that it reveals sakura's feelings and why she chose sasuke, despite all of the shit he's done. Do you know when will these novels be released? They could be quite interesting if they really do fill the gaps. |
danae17 said: link9us said: You don't seem to understand. This was several years into the future. The author intentionally wanted to keep the whole romance and pairings opened to the reader and be up to interpretation. You just have to visualize how many years things could possibly change, and im sure that is what the novels and part 3 of the manga will help to tie up those loose ends. In fact one of the novels the author already officially stated that it reveals sakura's feelings and why she chose sasuke, despite all of the shit he's done. Do you know when will these novels be released? They could be quite interesting if they really do fill the gaps. Naruto - Kakashi Hidden Legend: Lightning of the Frozen Sky Author: Akira Higashiyama | Release Date: February 4 The story will focus on Kakashi and his new job as the Sixth Hokage. In addition, he will deal with an incident that occurred in the new peaceful, orderly ninja world. Shikamaru Hidden Legend Author: N/A | Release Date: March 4 It will focus on Shikamaru's battle against the strongest genjutsu-user. Akatsuki Hidden Legend Author: N/A | Release Date: April The story will reveal the truth about this organization. Based on the feature image, the story will focus on Deidara, Kisame, Kakuzu, and Hidan. Gaara Hidden Legend Author: N/A | Release Date: June The story will feature a love story, something that the Kazekage Gaara does not know very well. Sakura Hidden Legend Author: N/A | Release Date: July Sakura's romantic feelings will be revealed and the reason she ultimately ended up with Sasuke. Konohagakure Hidden Legend Author: N/A | Release Date: August The story will focus on the other Konoha ninja after the end of the original manga. Based on the preview image, it will likely focus on Shino, Kiba, and Rock Lee. The Japanese branch of Amazon lists Shikamaru Hiden, the second of six planned Naruto epilogue novels, for March 4. The novel will be penned by Takashi Yano. The first novel by Akira Higashiyama, Naruto - Kakashi Hiden: Hyōten no Ikazuchi (Naruto - Kakashi Hidden Legend: Lightning of the Frozen Sky), will ship in Japan on February 4. The story of Naruto - Kakashi Hiden: Hyōten no Ikazuchi revolves around Kakashi Hatake, who is melancholy despite his new position as the Sixth Hogake. In addition, an incident has occurred in the new peaceful, orderly ninja world. Beginning in February, one volume of the Hiden novel series will be released per month. The full list of novels and release dates is as follows: Kakashi Hiden ('hiden' means 'secret legend') - February 4 Shikamaru Hiden - March 4 Akatsuki Hiden - April Gaara Hiden - June Sakura Hiden - July Konohagakure Hiden - August Kishimoto had said in an interview in November that he will still have other work left to do in the Naruto franchise until summer, so he will not begin preparing his next non-Naruto title in earnest until after that. A new film following Naruto and Hinata's son Bolt and Sasuke and Sakura's daughter Sarada will open in August. Also this was translated not to long ago bout the Shikimaru Hidan Novel Details of extended Synopses: Everywhere post-war, there’s been an outbreak of multiple incidents of shinobi (who have) disappeared. Even in Konoha, Sai has vanished…The shinobi who disappeared went towards an enigmatic and developing nation called “The Country of Silence”. Shikamaru accepts the mission to assassinate the head of the “Country of Silence”. What did he see there…? The greatest battle of Nara Shikamaru will be depicted in the second book in the Hiden series! All of the novels bridge the story from Chapter 699 to the Last naruto the movie, so yeah they definitely will feel in those gaps left behind with that sudden time skip. I definitely look forward to it. |
ArtimesGamerMar 4, 2015 1:50 AM
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| I don't feel like making a whole new topic about the ending so forgive me for high jacking(kinda?) this thread. This is from a Team Gai fan's POV I just want some closure and none of my RL friends care about Naruto ;_; As usual I am super late to the party. I was ignoring the manga while waiting for the anime to finish, but meanwhile I saw so many spoilers that yesterday I just went and read the last 40 chapters of the manga. The ending. No. No. NO. You do not do this. My heart sank when they showed Neji's grave ;_; It's bad enough that Tenten did not express any feelings when Neji died, even in the anime, but this ending was just terrible from a Team Gai's POV. At that scene where everyone stares at Neji's grave, Tenten and Lee are not even there. WTF Kishimoto! Tenten never expressed any sadness over Neji even at the end. What poor writing. Earlier in the manga, Tenten looks at Gai and Lee and thinks "ugh why did you leave me alone with those two?" And that's like...the worse reaction ever. Like the only reason she cares that Neji is gone is because now she has to deal with the idiots alone?? I hope it's better handled in the anime! (Nothing was said about Shikaku and Inoichi either...) My only (small) highlight was when Tenten is stuck in Tsukuyomi and Neji is in her dream. Although even there, she only cares about Lee and Gai not being idiots. *sigh* I'm an adult, I can deal with the fact that none of my ships came true. I accept all the ShikaTema, NaruHina, SaiIno, Choujixthat Cloud girl(dafuq?) and KibaxWhothehellwasthisgirl of this world. I would accept Tenten and Neji NOT being together if it meant that Neji was alive. Heck, if Neji married some random girl I'd be really disappointed but I would accept it because he'd be alive and we could still make up our stories. But now he's not there and only Hinata (mildly) cares. You know, I would have been okay with Tenten and Lee ending up together. LeeTen has always been cute. I would have been satisfied with that. I know there's nothing to prove or disprove that they did not get together, but I was under the impression that they did not. Otherwise it would have been super obvious like it was with the others. While everyone is shown being married, having kids and being happy, Tenten is only shown being bored and alone and owning a business that doesn't work! Why does Tenten always get the short end of the stick? If only she had said something like "If only you were still here..." But NOPE! Nothing. I can't shake the feeling that Neji died only to set up NaruHina. OR that he died only so Naruto had the correct number of friends when everyone was a tail of the Kyuubi for that one attack. (Remember that?) What if for 15 years of Naruto, Tenten never actually cared all that much about Neji?? Tenten's design looks really cool in The Last. I wonder how Neji's design looks... OH WAIT HE'S DEAD!!! I haven't seen The Last yet (where can I see it?) but I'm sure Tenten appears for just 30 seconds and nobody mentions Neji except maybe Hinata for one second... In my head, Neji and Tenten got together in the Road to Ninja universe! Sure Neji is a pervert but it's still Neji. *coughAndsinceTentenissoclumsy,theymusthavereallyinterestingsexcough* It looks like Naruto - or is it Boruto now? - will continue in some form. But none of it is worth it if Neji is dead and Tenten is forgotten!! WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DIE NEJI?? He was only 18/19 !! I've never been so upset over the death of a fictional character! If only it had been done well!! Help me, Naruto community!! Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go watch a marathon of Lee's Springtime of Youth. It's the canon Naruto! The superior Naruto! AT LEAST WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE SPRINGTIME OF YOUTH! THEY CAN NEVER TAKE IT FROM US!! Enjoy the current Chuunin Exam filler in the anime, cause it's the last Team Gai story we'll ever see! I leave you with this parting gift. It's the full version of Twinkle Twinkle, the first ending theme of Springtime of Youth, the best opening of Naruto history because dancing Neji is adorable. It shall be Team Gai's anthem for years to come. tl;dr: Screw the ending. Neji forever!! |
| You make valid points. I guess the part I really have trouble with is how his death was quickly swept under the rug by his own team mates. Lee is showing crying for a panel, Gai says don't cry but otherwise doesn't show much emotion. Tenten is the worse of all and never expresses any sadness at all. They were left out of the grave scene even :/ I hope the anime handles this better. I just would have liked to see them have some closure. I'm not denying the story but the reactions were done too poorly for me to accept =( |
sapphireluna said: You make valid points. I guess the part I really have trouble with is how his death was quickly swept under the rug by his own team mates. Lee is showing crying for a panel, Gai says don't cry but otherwise doesn't show much emotion. Tenten is the worse of all and never expresses any sadness at all. They were left out of the grave scene even :/ I hope the anime handles this better. I just would have liked to see them have some closure. I'm not denying the story but the reactions were done too poorly for me to accept =( It was a war after all and Tenten has been shown to be the more mature character out of the group. People died left and right, it would have been impactful to see all the Konoha nin shed some tears, but it´s unrealstic, which was explained at the start of the war in the conversation between Kankuro and Omoi. The manga is Naruto centered, that´s probably the reason we see him and Hinata at his Grave and not Nejis mom or Hanabi who is equaly related to Neji as Hinata. Lees reaction was more akin to his goofy character, while the others simply remained their cool "to not lose more comrades". Simply the fact that everyone who had an affiliation with him had him in his dream alive should be reason enough to show their affection towards him. But showing him in everyones dream would be overkill. Remember we saw Shikamarus dad in his dream and Inos in hers but not in Tentens. Kishi is also way more merciful as a writer than him.  |
IsterioMar 4, 2015 5:23 AM
| @ Isterio I think George R.R. Martin equal with Gen Orobuchi, both of therm really cold blood. Kishi is still not in their level since it need nerves of steel to kill character especially when it already around for loong time. |
| I put off finishing this back in 2014. I said it was because I got a job & my uni finished & I was too busy for Anime/manga. It wasn't...I just didn't want to leave a giant hole in my heart where Naruto was for the past 9 years. Oh god these feels :(((( I wanted it to end so badly back in 2013 but now...it's true what they say, be careful what you wish for lol |
Abmanju said: I put off finishing this back in 2014. I said it was because I got a job & my uni finished & I was too busy for Anime/manga. It wasn't...I just didn't want to leave a giant hole in my heart where Naruto was for the past 9 years. Oh god these feels :(((( I wanted it to end so badly back in 2013 but now...it's true what they say, be careful what you wish for lol I wish it had ended 5-7 years ago when it was still good. |
Isterio said: Drunk_Samurai said: I wish it had ended 5-7 years ago when it was still good. I wish you would not comment in this thread and go back fangasming over One Piece which is full of comedic plotholes. You don't know what a plot hole is. |
| It was okay. 7/10 |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| I have only one word for for final chapters - disappointing. Plus I get to see more pairings-related drama in gaiden hah. |
| So basically, everyone became interested in love and sex off-screen in the meantime. Everyone got laid and everyone god kids, even the dogs. |
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| Eh, well I already had it spoiled that Naruto x Sakura wasn't a think long ago (hence why I never bothered finishing the series) but at least I can be content with Shikamaru x Temari. Leave it to Tsunade to still look ever young, whereas Mei has got fat. :P Kind of curious as to what was up with the scene with Sasuke at the end (of course I'm sure the sequel will enlighten me). Guessing it's either his daughter pranking him, or someone like Karin or Orochimaru stalking him. Took me a long while to remember which female wore glasses, in regards to Salad(?)... but now it hit me, aren't those Karin's glasses? Maybe someone already mentioned this or it's already been explained but that's definitely curious. natsucule said: Eh, granted my knowledge is limited from having not read any of the sequel, I think the only forced pairing that I saw here was Chouji and Karui... I don't ever remember them meeting. Ino and Sai was hinted at a couple times, so I'm not surprised by that either... even if I don't like it.Ending in a nutshell Too many forced pairings. Klad said: Modern technlology has always been a thing in Naruto. From the very beginning they had cellphones and shit.And how the possibile fuck a city is in there? o___o Naruto had a laptop too. |
| Thanks for the 7 years!! I really wanted to see who they end up getting married to.. |
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| Kishimoto is a master at story telling. |
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Soren said: Eh?Kishimoto is a master at story telling. |
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Soren said: Kishimoto is a master at story telling. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. |
| I think it was terrible. They should have ended it at chapter 699 |
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| NaruHina <3 .. Rest is okay after some horrible fights. But it was great ride overall. Thank you Kishimoto for keeping me entertained for years. |
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FoxyKitsune said: You don't think it was terrible; it was terrible.I think it was terrible. They should have ended it at chapter 699 |
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ziggy_Z said: You don't think it was terrible; it was terrible. Yeah. Pretty much lol |
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| I've completed naruto! Some of those children look so weird. |
| At least my childhood manga is finished, i think the ending is perfect for this series ...what else do you expect? Naruto become hokage and everyone is happy -finish! |
| That was really cute! It's finally over! 8/10 |
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FoxyKitsune said: I think it was terrible. They should have ended it at chapter 699 Kishi did, 700 is a epilogue. |
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| Many people hate this manga because it's overhyped, but I really think that it was a good manga overall. It had all the shonen canvas and conveyed them with some intelligence. The traditionnalistic aspect and the use of Shinto mythology is a plus for me. Some of the fight really had brillant tactics. The first season was better, way smoother, while the second a bit too sloppy at times, but neverthles it was still enjoyable. Naruto was one of the first manga, I've read and I don't regret having started it. |
Krystalx27 said: FoxyKitsune said: I think it was terrible. They should have ended it at chapter 699 Kishi did, 700 is a epilogue. That's not how it works. |
| I gotta say that adult Sasuke's hairstyle is ugly and ruins his entire character, might be the worst thing I've ever seen. |
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| WTF is that on Boruto's head. Are you saying his head is an apple? Shikadai is obviously Shikamaru's kid. Wow. That kid is obviously Ino and Sai's kid. What an ugly combination. Sai's skin color with Ino's hair color is ugly AF. Plus, the eyes. Should have gave the kid Ino's skin color and just made him wear Sai's clothes. Chouchou? That's clearly Chouji's kid, but the big issue here is WTF is up with her design? Who is the mother? Just by looking at Chouchou, I feel a familiarity due to the eye so it is probably someone we know. Kishi really told himself "Let me give Chouji a fat black kid to make everyone say WTF." WTF! Is that Anko? No focking way! That is not my waifu! This is not the right future. 3 pages in and I'm already saying Kishimoto needs to redo this shit. Don't tell me Kishimoto is using the logo of woman in their 40's must be fat now. So Naruto has two kids and the other is a girl. Bet that Hinata kid will be irrelevant AF thus making you wonder why Kishimoto gave Naruto 2 kids when only 1 is enough. Rock Lee and his kid. lol Tenten owns a store. lol Damn. Gaara lost all his spiky hair. Temari and Shikamaru got together. :) Kiba got together with that cat girl. Sad as hell seeing Akamaru old as shit. I knew that she would be Chouchou's mother, but how the hell did Chouji get with her. Need answers. Asuma's daughter looking like Kurenai. Kurenai looking old as shit. Damn. Guy looks like he aged while the same can't really be said for Kakashi. Ohnoki on his deathbed. Mizukage got fat. Tsunade continues cheating death. Dat laptop. Naruto really became Hokage. I like how Shikamaru looks like his dad. Hold up. Is that Shizune? If so, why didn't you keep Anko the same, Kishimoto? You asshole. You ruined my waifu. Boruto acting like Naruto once did. Of course Boruto would call Minato a geezer. Naruto doing fatherly things. Iruka and Konohamaru. Sad seeing Iruka look that old. Sakura is a mom? Who the hell is the father? Also, I see Kishimoto giving Sakura that Kushina hairstyle and reaction face. That is going to trigger certain people and they do have a reason to be triggered. Sasuke is the father? Well, I do see the resemblance. It's strange. The kid reminds me of a Sasuke and Karin combination than a Sasuke and Sakura. Just saying. Kishimoto gave Sasuke a daughter? That's weird. Let me guess. Boruto and Sarada are going to get together. That must be the reason. Sasuke looking like an Uchiha. Well, Madara-esque. Oh shit! They have cities now. Been a long ass time since I read the Naruto one shot, but I think it had cities in it as well, so I guess Kishimoto added that here. And that was the end of Naruto. Damn anime couldn't even adapt this chapter. Reading this felt weird. The only character design I approve of is Shikadai. Everyone else looks weird or like shit. Then there's Anko. You destroyed my vision of my waifu. Went from sexy fishnet woman to fat woman. You had me devastated like:  |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| Naruto is the new Hokage, boring last chapter, especially since his kid is doing the same things he did. |
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| 700 chapters and finally done. I set here not entirely sure how I'd rate the series as a whole so I'm probably going to ramble on about my thoughts on it until I reach a decision but before that, this chapter wasn't very good. It clearly felt like an epilogue type chapter with 699 being the true "finale" so to speak, and it kinda works well as that. I wasn't that interested and I kinda forgot a lot of the stuff that happened and it was just a few days ago that I finished it. It's mostly just shipping, which I don't care about, and I knew most of these results from earlier. Sakura & Sasuke ended up together is gross. But time for it as a whole. Or rather part 2, as a whole. Part 1 was a fairly solid shonen series that was really good at executing the emotional core of the protagonist and those he paralleled with like Gaara. I'd probably give that an 8, it was generally good stuff. The second half, and the far more lengthy portion of the series of course, is a lot more of a mixed bag. You know, I convinced myself I was going to go and ramble on about my thoughts. About my disappointment in the use of the supporting cast (sans Shikamaru, honestly think he feels more like a main character than Sakura does, which is fine, Shikamaru is awesome), about how several of the plot-lines ended up (Kaguya for example, or how after getting caught Yamato's plot is told resolved in like six panels spread out across hundreds of chapters it feels like). But I think ultimately, if I'm going to spend my time ruminating on Naruto, I should just be concise and talk about it's central conflict, the one between Naruto & Sasuke. Outside of just being spoiled of it, it was obvious that Sasuke was going to end up being redeemed. It was obvious Naruto was going to win him back, it was all throughout the manga's DNA that it was going to, hence the Talk no Jutsu. Which by the way, I like because to me Talk no Jutsu just translates to the series caring more about the characters than the action, which is where my interests typically lie anyway. Especially with the direction Part 2 took, I found a lot of the fights kinda boring here but that's neither here nor there. I'm a bit conflicted on the Sasuke arc because I want to love it. The most frustrating thing about Sasuke's plot-line is how well it should gel with me. To copy what I wrote to a friend because I'm too lazy to reiterate my points, "I do like the direction Sasuke takes after joining the war and I do like, not necessarily the final fight, but the aftermath of the final fight. I think Kishimoto executed that moment really well, the use of the flashbacks and thoughts from Sasuke, the expressions, he drew that chapter really well and several moments were effective based on the drawing (like Sasuke's expression after Naruto said it hurt seeing Sasuke isolate himself again), and the final imagery of the lack of arm, and blood hand holding reinforcing their relationship was pretty strong too, and came as a shock when turning that page. I want to praise that but the thought running through my head was "I really wish this worked for me, I really wish the build-up matched" because like, this kinda ridiculously loyalty, saving someone trying to martyr themselves, is totally up my wheelhouse. But the two biggest problems is that I don't think what we saw of Naruto & Sasuke's relationship prior to his departure warranted the dedication that Naruto held for him (which granted, they did pin somewhat on Sakura making him promise), and I feel the stuff about their childhood probably should've been established prior to the arc where he was basically leaving. Like I really liked Gungrave which had a similar best friends turn enemy kinda thing to it but that worked a lot more for me because it did a much better job of establishing a strong bond between those two protagonists. Here, it just seemed like kinda your typical shonen rival relationship, until Sasuke decides he's going to run off to Oorochimaru, once that threat's established, we start getting deeper insight into what Sasuke means to Naruto, and while I think it connects fine to what we know about both of them, coming in at that point feels a bit forced. The other problem being Sasuke just going completely off the rails after finding out Itachi's backstory and deciding that everyone in Konoha needed to die. Like, if he didn't have that extreme drop, I think this could've really worked for me because in isolation, I do really like that conclusion chapter to their conflict, but as a whole, Sasuke was too all over the place." The short version of that is if their relationship dynamic was a lot stronger earlier on/if got more time to absorb into it prior to the threat of Sasuke's departure and/or if Sasuke didn't nosedive into insanity against all inhabitants of Konoha, I think this plot line would've really worked for me because in a bubble I do think Kishimoto nailed the ending of their arc. Like, even Sasuke's reason for fighting Naruto after the whole Kaguya stuff, I thought that logically lined up with his character profile, revealed some essence of likability in the manner that he was trying to essentially martyr himself, and made it more plausible for him to be brought back. It's just, I can read that chapter and tell that if things were handled a little differently in the middle of the story or near the beginning, then this would've really worked on me. I could've loved this, instead I have a detached appreciation for the ending execution and a frustration at what the build was. Anyway, I've been mulling between whether or not Naruto is a 6 or a 7 for me and ultimately I decided to go for a 7. It's close but ultimately I always lean more favourably. And there was still a lot of this series I really liked, even if the moments became fewer and fewer between in the final stretches. Also, just cause I never mentioned it anywhere else, one of my favourite moments of the past two hundred chapters, maybe my favourite, was Naruto's goodbye to Minato where he was answering everyone of Kushina's words from before she died. It was really sweet, their was a long space between them so it felt more touching revisiting it, and I think it's moments like that that Kishimoto really nailed. |
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