Fate/stay night Episode 16 Discussion

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Oh wow Berserker really can talk.

Ok I hope there will be some revelation about Shiro's true personality. He maybe try to act as all righteous and a wannabe justice defender, but his true personality is a pervert I guess. Like, he could just send Illyasviel back to her home, why bother to bring her to his home, lol. I'm just surprised at how fast Shirou's idiocy has influenced Saber and Rin to the extent they didn't question that.

It's funny how the king has been reduced to a servant and right now is washing a dish. lol

Shirou might as well create money with his ability. Or maybe the Holy Grail.

That glasses teacher is the final boss I guess.

My guess is Lancer's master is someone that Shirou know.

Kish0Jun 9, 2019 2:55 AM

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Jun 9, 2019 4:02 AM

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Kish0 said:
Ok I hope there will be some revelation about Shiro's true personality. He maybe try to act as all righteous and a wannabe justice defender, but his true personality is a pervert I guess. Like, he could just send Illyasviel back to her home, why bother to bring her to his home, lol. I'm just surprised at how fast Shirou's idiocy has influenced Saber and Rin to the extent they didn't question that.

normally, masters who have lost their servants should be going into the church for protection until the war is over. even if a master doesn't have their servant with them anymore, they might still be targeted by other masters because there is a chance that they could make a pact with a servant who has lost their master, Rin mentioned that in this episode

if Illya goes back to her castle, she might be attacked and killed by another master

Kish0 said:
I'm just surprised at how fast Shirou's idiocy has influenced Saber and Rin to the extent they didn't question that.

Saber kept objecting to keeping Illya in the house, but she's Shirou's servant so she gave up in the end

Rin realized that keeping Illya with them might be a smart move, you'll find out why later

Jun 9, 2019 6:45 AM

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Shayon said:

Kish0 said:
Ok I hope there will be some revelation about Shiro's true personality. He maybe try to act as all righteous and a wannabe justice defender, but his true personality is a pervert I guess. Like, he could just send Illyasviel back to her home, why bother to bring her to his home, lol. I'm just surprised at how fast Shirou's idiocy has influenced Saber and Rin to the extent they didn't question that.

normally, masters who have lost their servants should be going into the church for protection until the war is over. even if a master doesn't have their servant with them anymore, they might still be targeted by other masters because there is a chance that they could make a pact with a servant who has lost their master, Rin mentioned that in this episode

if Illya goes back to her castle, she might be attacked and killed by another master

Ok, then why Shirou didn't just send her to the church ? Shirou's reason for keeping her are no more than kindness although I'm guessing there's some ulterior motive. Only Rin realized there is another benefit of keeping her but I doubt Shirou realized that, he's too dumb anyway.

Kish0Jun 9, 2019 7:02 AM

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Jun 9, 2019 10:19 AM

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Kish0 said:

Shayon said:

normally, masters who have lost their servants should be going into the church for protection until the war is over. even if a master doesn't have their servant with them anymore, they might still be targeted by other masters because there is a chance that they could make a pact with a servant who has lost their master, Rin mentioned that in this episode

if Illya goes back to her castle, she might be attacked and killed by another master

Ok, then why Shirou didn't just send her to the church ? Shirou's reason for keeping her are no more than kindness

pretty much, he's simply too good natured and views her as a child

also, Shirou dislikes Kirei so he probably doesn't want Illya to be around him either

Jun 11, 2019 1:27 PM

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Kish0 said:
he's too dumb anyway.

Question.

If the viewer didnt realize that reason does that make them too dumb as well?

Jun 11, 2019 8:04 PM

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ssjokg said:

Kish0 said:
he's too dumb anyway.

Question.

If the viewer didnt realize that reason does that make them too dumb as well?

No, cause the viewer just come to watch and enjoy.

He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame.

Jun 11, 2019 9:23 PM

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Kish0 said:

ssjokg said:

Question.

If the viewer didnt realize that reason does that make them too dumb as well?

No, cause the viewer just come to watch and enjoy.

Kish0 said:

ssjokg said:

Question.

If the viewer didnt realize that reason does that make them too dumb as well?

No, cause the viewer just come to watch and enjoy.

So you admit that you dont even try to think.Glad to know.

Jun 11, 2019 10:06 PM

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ssjokg said:

Kish0 said:

No, cause the viewer just come to watch and enjoy.

Kish0 said:

No, cause the viewer just come to watch and enjoy.

So you admit that you dont even try to think.Glad to know.

Unfortunately im talking about viewer, not me.

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Jun 12, 2019 11:03 AM

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Kish0 said:

ssjokg said:

So you admit that you dont even try to think.Glad to know.

Unfortunately im talking about viewer, not me.

And you are the viewer.

Jun 12, 2019 12:05 PM

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ssjokg said:

Kish0 said:
he's too dumb anyway.

Question.

If the viewer didnt realize that reason does that make them too dumb as well?

to be fair, i can't blame anyone for thinking shirou is just a dumbass in this

deen shirou has a way of getting on my nerves too

Jun 12, 2019 12:35 PM

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Shayon said:

ssjokg said:

Question.

If the viewer didnt realize that reason does that make them too dumb as well?

to be fair, i can't blame anyone for thinking shirou is just a dumbass in this

deen shirou has a way of getting on my nerves too

The rest of the characters arent any better so I dont see why Shirou specifically is a dumbass, especially for stuff that even the viewer cant think about.

Jun 12, 2019 12:51 PM

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ssjokg said:

Shayon said:

to be fair, i can't blame anyone for thinking shirou is just a dumbass in this

deen shirou has a way of getting on my nerves too

The rest of the characters arent any better so I dont see why Shirou specifically is a dumbass, especially for stuff that even the viewer cant think about.

the anime's failure to portray his character makes him seem like a naive dumbass and nothing more. not talking about this issue with Illya specifically, but just in general. viewers are likely to already perceive him as a dumbass coming into this episode

the other characters fare better than him because they don't talk about being a hero of justice and all that

Jun 12, 2019 7:34 PM

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ssjokg said:

Kish0 said:

Unfortunately im talking about viewer, not me.

And you are the viewer.

Well you're wrong then. Cause I'm not a normal viewer. (My last reply for this episode, cause this is out of the discussion of the episode)

He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame.

Jun 13, 2019 9:17 AM

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