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Jul 10, 2016 5:43 PM

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"no one stopped emilia or anyone else from dying before"

In arc 1, the first time they die is because Elsa kills Rom and Felt for some reason, and when Subaru and Emilia come in, hides in the dark and guts them. They did not even know what Elsa looked like.


So what she and everyone else still died. The means matter little outsdie Suabru solving the issue.

Next time Subaru dies is when he reveals his goal to Elsa and she goes hostile and kills Rom, Felt, and Subaru due to her much higher skill.


Still dies.

Next time he lives, only because he met Reinhardt and Reinhardt is a nice guy. If Reinhardt was not there, Subaru wouldn't achieve anything.


Reinhard only got there to do anything because 1) Subaru, Emilia, Felt and Rom fought and held Elsa back for awhile. 2) Subaru saving Felt allow her to meet Reinhard who just happened to passing by the slums. If point number 1 didn't happen everyone would be dead before he even there.

In arc 2, Subaru dies cause the maids kill him, and he was already hit by a curse by the shaman. Rem dies because she is the one bitten by the shaman dog instead so she suffers from the unseen curse. If anyone had known that dog was a mabeast, Rem would have been saved. Subaru didn't stop the threat, he made everyone else aware that there was one.



But nobody did, that's' point. One Subaru found about it and took several deaths to do under pressure of being killed by Rem. Nobody else had that luxury or chance.

In the current arc, new enemies do appear, and were unable to be stopped. Except they did not attack the huge castle filled with powerful people they attacked Rosswals mansion, filled with two strong people and three more who rushed there to help. Huge difference.


Roswaal is the strongest mage country, Puck s one of 4 Great Spirits of world, Betty centuries old spirits, the maids decently powerful oni and Emilia is skilled Spirit User.

They. All. Still. Died.

Being powerful does not mean your invincible. If a surprise attack from power opponent happens your gonna get killed. This reality of what is happening. THis not even taking the fact Roswall might not even been there at the time, one of maids responsible for security was with Subaru. And Betty of course not even being aware of what is happening since mansion defense isn't er job and she's another dimension anyway
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Myrtenaster said:

I recall Puck calling Emilia his/her daughter from the manga.


Yeah, i guess youre right. Would also make sense that it was puck both time that killed subaru this episode.
He was some ice wizard and the first time Subaru was frozen solid, the second time he got his head cut off and buried in snow.
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1. Holy mother fucking shit.....that was beyond epic, just brutally epic.
2. Love Rem, LOVE HER.....she deserves his heart, not that other chic whose name I don't care to remember.
3. WHAT THE FUCK was that about with the huge demon saying "lie next to my daughter"?
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Against Julius, he thought he was given a chance to regain what was lost. He didn't know how ineffective the spell would be. He had only used it once. If it worked, then he could land a solid hit, at least. So what if he's seen Reinhard? Reinhard barely moved. And before, Subaru was able to parry Elsa's attacks.

Yeah, know. He already knows that he can only do 'Status Effects'/Support. He knows that if Ros-chi didn't appear he would've been toast, and he knows how strong Reinhardt is.


Not everyone there is a Reinhard. It appears that you're assuming. Subaru fought dogs. And that one was big. That's not a good example. Yeah, status effects can cripple. They're effective... Again, Reinhard barely moved. He couldn't get a good idea of how strong someone like him is in sword fighting. What he saw was he using some powerful, offensive ability. But the match against Julius wasn't to the death. And do you think Subaru thought he'd win? What he wanted would've been to pay back, by injuring Julius, even if only a little.
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As i said, it's not about ''Dark Side'' but about him going full retarded. The Arc1/2 Subaru wouldn't have went to the Castle, and even then he wouldn't have done the whole knight thing. Even if he is a neet, if he comes from a Modern world he should know what 'status' means.
Also, his Emilia obsession multiplied by 25423638.
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I seriously think that this is the first time an anime shocks me so much! Excellent job by the studio!!!

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This was an incredible episode. A brutal and emotional story progress at the same time paired with interesting dialogues, a great OST and very good animations. Probably one of the best epsiodes - if not the best one.

I really liked the ending of this episode. With this ending scene in the snow (that was grandiose in my opinion), those last words "Sleep... Along with my daughter" which rounded off the episode and the credits with this wonderful song I felt like I was watching a movie of Re:Zero. A movie with an ending like this would satisfy me more probably very.

The show keeps getting more mysterious and dramatical and
simultaneously better. Now I'm eagerly waiting for the next episode. I hope Re:Zero is going to get even better with the next episodes.

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This episode was just super filthy.

On the other hand this topic needs a bit of cleaning as there is way too many spoilers without tags doing rounds.
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i've rightfully given this anime shit for being mediocre, but this was easily the best episode of the season. in arc 2 when it almost got this good, it went to shit fast. so we shall see how it goes.
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Shrimperor said:

Yeah, know. He already knows that he can only do 'Status Effects'/Support. He knows that if Ros-chi didn't appear he would've been toast, and he knows how strong Reinhardt is.


Not everyone there is a Reinhard. It appears that you're assuming. Subaru fought dogs. And that one was big. That's not a good example. Yeah, status effects can cripple. They're effective... Again, Reinhard barely moved. He couldn't get a good idea of how strong someone like him is in sword fighting. What he saw was he using some powerful, offensive ability. But the match against Julius wasn't to the death. And do you think Subaru thought he'd win? What he wanted would've been to pay back, by injuring Julius, even if only a little.

And he, as an RPG games, know Status effects means shit when alone.
And to use some Powerful abilities you have to be strong.....
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Shrimperor said:
iRels said:


Not everyone there is a Reinhard. It appears that you're assuming. Subaru fought dogs. And that one was big. That's not a good example. Yeah, status effects can cripple. They're effective... Again, Reinhard barely moved. He couldn't get a good idea of how strong someone like him is in sword fighting. What he saw was he using some powerful, offensive ability. But the match against Julius wasn't to the death. And do you think Subaru thought he'd win? What he wanted would've been to pay back, by injuring Julius, even if only a little.

And he, as an RPG games, know Status effects means shit when alone.
And to use some Powerful abilities you have to be strong.....


He forgot you need to grind mobs, level up , learn new skills then fight high level opponents. Not jump straight into Boss fights.
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RainyRai said:


Except they never got to voice any problem because Emilia had a problem and told him to shut up. When Subaru started talking shit again, Julius started talking before anyone else could.


Except no she didn't. Al she did was tell him to stop and let her handle speak out. The problem she was him announcing he was her knight like everyone else. This clear from the episode.

The words "enough of your crap" and "you guys are filled with crap" is not a phrase meant to be used as an insult? Does Subaru have to piss on their dead children for it to be an insult?


My point he was only insulting the people who insulted her and weren't giving her a chance to speak. He wasn't attacking anyone randomly. EMilai was clearly taken aback and only found her resolve after Subaru spoke out.

He proclaimed himself to be something he wasn't, and then insulted that a second after confrontation.


Nope. After the proclamation, Julius told him he didn't ahve the abilit or resolve, he only insluted them afterwards. He was clearly in the wrong no disagreement about that, but that was said of anger of being devalued. And this major theme in this arc for him.

you need to stop making shit up before I do.


Hardly, I'm the one who actually cares about this story and see where the development is going. All you do is bitch.

Seeing as that we might as well agree and disagree and drop it right here.
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@Aurioch

As i said, it's not about ''Dark Side'' but about him going full retarded. The Arc1/2 Subaru wouldn't have went to the Castle, and even then he wouldn't have done the whole knight thing. Even if he is a neet, if he comes from a Modern world he should know what 'status' means.
Also, his Emilia obsession multiplied by 25423638.


Yet Act 1 Subaru went into slums to see what was going on there there in the time he was with Emilia before he died.
Yet Act 1 Subaru called Emilia "Satella" in the middle of the town square, drawing attention of everyone around them, and it got so close to him accidentally revealing to everyone that Emilia lost Dragon Stone.
Yet Act 2 Subaru casually called the strongest mage in the country "a clown" and even tapped his back, even though he was warned before that Roswaal returned to the mansion.

As for Subaru going to the castle, while it was bad thing to do, especially as Emilia asked him not to go, it was still correct thing to do, at least from perspective of an observer. As Subaru himself said, in order to know what to do if something goes wrong and he's forced to Return by Death, he has to be there.
Not to mention that during the scene at the castle, everyone was insulting Emilia about her being a half-elf and looking like the Witch. You've seen how he reacted before on such thing. And besides, if somebody was insulting someone you love, wouldn't you defend that person yourself?
While he approached the issue the wrong way (and insulted almost everyone there in the process) while hotheaded doesn't change the fact that he did what every human would - step up to protect person he loves, even if that means taking the burden yourself.
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BRUTAL!

I wish subaru had some super OP power he hasn't found yet. I KNOW thats not the case from the LN readers have hinted that several times but man would that be refreshing.

The episodes grow darker and darker. Seeing Dead Rem and Ram twice was terrible, watching Rem get tortured to death was gut-wrenching. Then watching her crawl to subaru was tear-inducing. She such a lovable character.....

Rem+Subaru=Sorry Emilia you had your time I think lovely Rem needs Subaru more.

Man I cannot wait till next week, this series is F^cking Awesome, I think alot of other shows can learn alot from this.

ANY chance that wolf was the Witch and Emilia is her daughter, hence "sleep along with my daughter" ??? I don't believe that was Puck, could be but I don't it is.

I was glad to see him get the free reset from the wolf monster. I hope he and Rem beat the shit out of the Cultist Dick next week.
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I can't express anything except the pure frustration of Subaru weakness and the fact that I have to wait another week to see an episode. This is probably the best anime of 2016 so far for me. That ending reminds me of Guts in Berserk, hopefully this time Subaru becomes stronger just like Guts after the eclipse arc. 10/10 no 20/10 no maybe over 9000!
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RainyRai said:



"no one stopped emilia or anyone else from dying before"

In arc 1, the first time they die is because Elsa kills Rom and Felt for some reason, and when Subaru and Emilia come in, hides in the dark and guts them. They did not even know what Elsa looked like.


So what she and everyone else still died. The means matter little outsdie Suabru solving the issue.

Next time Subaru dies is when he reveals his goal to Elsa and she goes hostile and kills Rom, Felt, and Subaru due to her much higher skill.


Still dies.

Next time he lives, only because he met Reinhardt and Reinhardt is a nice guy. If Reinhardt was not there, Subaru wouldn't achieve anything.


Reinhard only got there to do anything because 1) Subaru, Emilia, Felt and Rom fought and held Elsa back for awhile. 2) Subaru saving Felt allow her to meet Reinhard who just happened to passing by the slums. If point number 1 didn't happen everyone would be dead before he even there.

In arc 2, Subaru dies cause the maids kill him, and he was already hit by a curse by the shaman. Rem dies because she is the one bitten by the shaman dog instead so she suffers from the unseen curse. If anyone had known that dog was a mabeast, Rem would have been saved. Subaru didn't stop the threat, he made everyone else aware that there was one.



But nobody did, that's' point. One Subaru found about it and took several deaths to do under pressure of being killed by Rem. Nobody else had that luxury or chance.

In the current arc, new enemies do appear, and were unable to be stopped. Except they did not attack the huge castle filled with powerful people they attacked Rosswals mansion, filled with two strong people and three more who rushed there to help. Huge difference.


Roswaal is the strongest mage country, Puck s one of 4 Great Spirits of world, Betty centuries old spirits, the maids decently powerful oni and Emilia is skilled Spirit User.

They. All. Still. Died.

Being powerful does not mean your invincible. If a surprise attack from power opponent happens your gonna get killed. This reality of what is happening. THis not even taking the fact Roswall might not even been there at the time, one of maids responsible for security was with Subaru.[/quote]
>subaru, emilia, felt and rom held elsa back
Which only happened through pure circumstance as Elsa didn't attack them until Emilia showed up, which allowed her and Puck to spring into action along with Felt and Rom. This is not something Subaru caused, it was pure luck. Subaru saving Felt has nothing to do with Reinhard's arrival, he arrived because of Subaru.

>nobody knew about the mabeasts

Yes, Subaru did suffer a lot to find out about the mabeasts. But as a whole, the only thing he did was draw attention to the issue. Your original point is that Subaru is the reason no one died ever.

>rosswall, beako, puck, emilia, maids died

No indication Rosswal and Beako died. Puck is clearly not dead. Emilia, Rem and Ram are the only ones that have been confirmed to die.

Your saying it yourself; the mansion was a tragedy because not many people were there compared to the mansion. Even if say Reinhardt got surprised gut attacked, there are still many knights there that would be capable of fighting and are now aware of the threat. Not the same as Ram getting jumped and then Emilia getting ambushed by the attackers by herself.
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So this must be what Soma's doing while preparing for Shokugekis, or Kirito now a PK member... but still, this got to be the most psychologically impacting episode of Re:Zero so far.
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Wow...
The soundtacks were beyond amazing in this episode.
I want the name of the soundtrack where they cut into the credits at the end, fucking amazing.
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Where did this come from...WHERE?!?!? This episode was in an entirely different league, 20 minutes of pure torture. The end in particular had me stitched up in goosebumps, Subaru is even further off the deep end despite how cheery he's acting this time. This continues to reinforce my belief that all of this is a plot to drive him so insane that he unleashes the power of the witch on the world.

Re:Zero has done an insanely masterful job at lulling me into a false sense of security with the reset by death. It's almost like with every reset, an extra tragedy is attached.
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I'm sooo glad I saved watching this after I had watched Ace Attorney and One Piece, This seriously blew me away I don't think I'll be able to watch anything else for the rest of the day.

Amazing episode, Amazing anime.
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Epic. Terrifying. Insane. Crazy. Suffer.
This episode,
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Crazy.

One of the best anime this year. Im glad i decided to watch it
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Jagd84 said:
RainyRai said:



"no one stopped emilia or anyone else from dying before"

In arc 1, the first time they die is because Elsa kills Rom and Felt for some reason, and when Subaru and Emilia come in, hides in the dark and guts them. They did not even know what Elsa looked like.


So what she and everyone else still died. The means matter little outsdie Suabru solving the issue.

Next time Subaru dies is when he reveals his goal to Elsa and she goes hostile and kills Rom, Felt, and Subaru due to her much higher skill.


Still dies.

Next time he lives, only because he met Reinhardt and Reinhardt is a nice guy. If Reinhardt was not there, Subaru wouldn't achieve anything.


Reinhard only got there to do anything because 1) Subaru, Emilia, Felt and Rom fought and held Elsa back for awhile. 2) Subaru saving Felt allow her to meet Reinhard who just happened to passing by the slums. If point number 1 didn't happen everyone would be dead before he even there.

In arc 2, Subaru dies cause the maids kill him, and he was already hit by a curse by the shaman. Rem dies because she is the one bitten by the shaman dog instead so she suffers from the unseen curse. If anyone had known that dog was a mabeast, Rem would have been saved. Subaru didn't stop the threat, he made everyone else aware that there was one.



But nobody did, that's' point. One Subaru found about it and took several deaths to do under pressure of being killed by Rem. Nobody else had that luxury or chance.

In the current arc, new enemies do appear, and were unable to be stopped. Except they did not attack the huge castle filled with powerful people they attacked Rosswals mansion, filled with two strong people and three more who rushed there to help. Huge difference.


Roswaal is the strongest mage country, Puck s one of 4 Great Spirits of world, Betty centuries old spirits, the maids decently powerful oni and Emilia is skilled Spirit User.

They. All. Still. Died.

Being powerful does not mean your invincible. If a surprise attack from power opponent happens your gonna get killed. This reality of what is happening. THis not even taking the fact Roswall might not even been there at the time, one of maids responsible for security was with Subaru. And Betty of course not even being aware of what is happening since mansion defense isn't er job and she's another dimension anyway


What exactly are you two fighting about
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Except they never got to voice any problem because Emilia had a problem and told him to shut up. When Subaru started talking shit again, Julius started talking before anyone else could.


Except no she didn't. Al she did was tell him to stop and let her handle speak out. The problem she was him announcing he was her knight like everyone else. This clear from the episode.

The words "enough of your crap" and "you guys are filled with crap" is not a phrase meant to be used as an insult? Does Subaru have to piss on their dead children for it to be an insult?


My point he was only insulting the people who insulted her and weren't giving her a chance to speak. He wasn't attacking anyone randomly. EMilai was clearly taken aback and only found her resolve after Subaru spoke out.

He proclaimed himself to be something he wasn't, and then insulted that a second after confrontation.


Nope. After the proclamation, Julius told him he didn't ahve the abilit or resolve, he only insluted them afterwards. He was clearly in the wrong no disagreement about that, but that was said of anger of being devalued. And this major theme in this arc for him.

you need to stop making shit up before I do.


Hardly, I'm the one who actually cares about this story and see where the development is going. All you do is bitch.

Seeing as that we might as well agree and disagree and drop it right here.

"except no she didn't"
except yes she did, she quickly asked him to stop and he kept going until she yelled his name. Then she goes back and says something.

"he only insulted the people insulting her"

"YOU ALL ARE FULL OF CRAP"

definitely.

"only after julius confronted him"

and you implied he was shoved into a corner. When Julius confronted him he quickly insulted the knights with little pressure. After this Julius continues to call him out and he is shoved into a corner.

"i like the show so I care, you complained about it so you don't"

i'm in favor of dropping this argument now.
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it was a really great episode i loved it, the eyes of subaru at the end .... shit are going to get real.

but one think i don't understand why/how he have been beheaded by the creature who look like puck
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Holy shit I'm speechless...watched the whole episode at the edge of my chair because this was so goddamn good and the last time I recall doing it was in the last Gintama movie Kanketsu-hen Yorozuya yo Eien Nare.
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@Jagd84

Is it true that Subaru is going to have a save point later on that really puts him in a rough position? That's what a had been hearing about earlier from LN readers so i wanted to know if it was true or not.

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Damn, I gotta give props to Rem for recovering and being able to get Subaru out of those chains. I use to refuse to respect and tolerate her due to the torture and being happy about Ram's lost horn, but having the grit to continue after what happened to her I can't hate anymore.

The ending credits and the moment before it was creepy as hell, that was like some horror movie type shit, just his head falls off and red text while the beast just looks on looming. This anime just went to another level of hardcore.
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What is this I just watched? Exponentially better than all other episodes. I'm astonished. Man, when was this anime that good? Instead of going uphill it rode a rocket.
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As i said, it's not about ''Dark Side'' but about him going full retarded. The Arc1/2 Subaru wouldn't have went to the Castle, and even then he wouldn't have done the whole knight thing. Even if he is a neet, if he comes from a Modern world he should know what 'status' means.
Also, his Emilia obsession multiplied by 25423638.


Yet Act 1 Subaru went into slums to see what was going on there there in the time he was with Emilia before he died.
Yet Act 1 Subaru called Emilia "Satella" in the middle of the town square, drawing attention of everyone around them, and it got so close to him accidentally revealing to everyone that Emilia lost Dragon Stone.
Yet Act 2 Subaru casually called the strongest mage in the country "a clown" and even tapped his back, even though he was warned before that Roswaal returned to the mansion.

As for Subaru going to the castle, while it was bad thing to do, especially as Emilia asked him not to go, it was still correct thing to do, at least from perspective of an observer. As Subaru himself said, in order to know what to do if something goes wrong and he's forced to Return by Death, he has to be there.
Not to mention that during the scene at the castle, everyone was insulting Emilia about her being a half-elf and looking like the Witch. You've seen how he reacted before on such thing. And besides, if somebody was insulting someone you love, wouldn't you defend that person yourself?
While he approached the issue the wrong way (and insulted almost everyone there in the process) while hotheaded doesn't change the fact that he did what every human would - step up to protect person he loves, even if that means taking the burden yourself.


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Puck is probably the witch . Why would it say my daughter
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@Aurioch

Yet Act 1 Subaru went into slums to see what was going on there there in the time he was with Emilia before he died.

Because he didn't know what was going on there, and he was pretty new.

Yet Act 1 Subaru called Emilia "Satella" in the middle of the town square, drawing attention of everyone around them, and it got so close to him accidentally revealing to everyone that Emilia lost Dragon Stone.

It's the name she gave him

Yet Act 2 Subaru casually called the strongest mage in the country "a clown" and even tapped his back, even though he was warned before that Roswaal returned to the mansion.

well, he pretty much looks like a clown :p

it was still correct thing to do, at least from perspective of an observer.

We know why the Author is doing that.

Not to mention that during the scene at the castle, everyone was insulting Emilia about her being a half-elf and looking like the Witch. You've seen how he reacted before on such thing. And besides, if somebody was insulting someone you love, wouldn't you defend that person yourself?

As i said in a lot of posts, i have no problem with him standing up to Emilia against those sickos, but the whole Knight thing is the problem. It isn't what his Arc1/2Barusu would've done.
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Just wow. Rem is awesome, love her. And to think I hated her guts before because she killed Subaru.

Well Bele--that nasty Sloth guy licked Subaru's face and eyeball all I could think about is how Subaru needs to revive so that that nastiness would disappear. Like disgusting. But yeah what's Subaru gonna do now...

Also wtf was that wolf thing. Like damn, lopped off his head and said "Return to my daughter?" Who??
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Puck is probably the witch . Why would it say my daughter


How does that even make sense?
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Puck is probably the witch . Why would it say my daughter


That's what Puck called Emilia remember he said this earlier in arc 1 and 2.

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DUDE WTF DID I JUST WATCH.


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Puck is probably the witch . Why would it say my daughter

Because Emelia to be like a daughter to him. He clearly isn't half elf.
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Puck is probably the witch . Why would it say my daughter


How does that even make sense?


Didn't Puck call Emilia his daugher? I just wanted to make sure.

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Wow this one seems to be ripped straight from Hellraiser! Wait, no, Hellraiser is much nastier. It's in the territory though, haha.

Great episode for sure. I wouldn't say the best (Emilia lap scene and Rem's smile still #1s), but easily the most exciting in the past month. I feel sorry for Rem loving a guy that is already in love with Emilia.

Elsa still A LOT scarier than Beejuice though, in my opinion. The ones that act so elegant and collected creep me out much more than the obviously insane ones. Not to mention she has a thing about gutting people and staring them in the eye with her twisted grin as they wither away.

That giant beast (Pakku?) definitely the MVP here. He made it easier for poor Sub to die quickly without having to jump again.

I don't remember what point of the story they are on though. After Subaru makes a fool of himself and gets his butt kicked by the knight, or before that? I need to go back and watch..I can't remember exactly. >_<
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Yeah puck is probably the witches spirit ? Who knows . Why would it say my daughter
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I know a lot of people are praising this episode for being super amazing and what not, but nothing really happened this episode other then a comical villain being introduced and Subaru's new goal for the arc. Otherwise it was really just a lot of violence to space everything out.
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Puck is probably the witch . Why would it say my daughter

Puck is not the witch. He said "my daughter" because he was referring to Emilia which is basically a daughter to him. He is an elder spirit and is saddened by her death.
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Also wtf was that wolf thing. Like damn, lopped off his head and said "Return to my daughter?" Who??

The big wolf monster was Puck. Emilia's death caused him to transform into a huge beast either according to a contract or due to his own grief. He most likely killed Subaru because the mansion was already frozen to death by Puck, and wanted to give him a painless death.
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How does that even make sense?


Didn't Puck call Emilia his daugher? I just wanted to make sure.


He called her his daughter in a few occasions. Pretty sure Subaru also called him "father" once, as in "father-in-law" though I'd have to verifiy this one.

But this is what Pack calls her, I don't think there is a blood-relation. I mean she's half-elf and he's a high level spirit.
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Wow this one seems to be ripped straight from Hellraiser! Wait, no, Hellraiser is much nastier. It's in the territory though, haha.

Great episode for sure. I wouldn't say the best (Emilia lap scene and Rem's smile still #1s), but easily the most exciting. I feel sorry for Rem loving a guy that is already in love with Emilia.

Elsa still A LOT scarier than Beejuice though, in my opinion. The ones that act so elegant and collected creep me out much more than the obviously insane ones. Not to mention she has a thing about gutting people and staring them in the eye with her twisted grin as they wither away.

That giant beast (Pakku?) definitely the MVP here. He made it easier for poor Sub to die quickly without having to jump again.

I don't remember what point of the story they are on though. After Subaru makes a fool of himself and gets his butt kicked by the knight, or before that? I need to go back and watch..I can't remember exactly. >_<


To help you out, it's after his fight with Emilia.

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WTH, that's Puck? Why would Puck lop off Subaru's head like that?
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I didn't blink once thru this 20min ep....
P-p-puck??...what happened?
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@terminador_2397: ah, thanks.

I'm COMPLETELY confused why Beejuice called Sub "Pride". I hope that is explained SOON. Did Sub curse himself for being prideful? @_@
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But nobody did, that's' point. One Subaru found about it and took several deaths to do under pressure of being killed by Rem. Nobody else had that luxury or chance.

In the current arc, new enemies do appear, and were unable to be stopped. Except they did not attack the huge castle filled with powerful people they attacked Rosswals mansion, filled with two strong people and three more who rushed there to help. Huge difference.

Roswaal is the strongest mage country, Puck s one of 4 Great Spirits of world, Betty centuries old spirits, the maids decently powerful oni and Emilia is skilled Spirit User.

They. All. Still. Died.

Being powerful does not mean your invincible. If a surprise attack from power opponent happens your gonna get killed. This reality of what is happening. THis not even taking the fact Roswall might not even been there at the time, one of maids responsible for security was with Subaru.
>subaru, emilia, felt and rom held elsa back
Which only happened through pure circumstance as Elsa didn't attack them until Emilia showed up, which allowed her and Puck to spring into action along with Felt and Rom. This is not something Subaru caused, it was pure luck. Subaru saving Felt has nothing to do with Reinhard's arrival, he arrived because of Subaru.

>nobody knew about the mabeasts

Yes, Subaru did suffer a lot to find out about the mabeasts. But as a whole, the only thing he did was draw attention to the issue. Your original point is that Subaru is the reason no one died ever.

>rosswall, beako, puck, emilia, maids died

No indication Rosswal and Beako died. Puck is clearly not dead. Emilia, Rem and Ram are the only ones that have been confirmed to die.

Your saying it yourself; the mansion was a tragedy because not many people were there compared to the mansion. Even if say Reinhardt got surprised gut attacked, there are still many knights there that would be capable of fighting and are now aware of the threat. Not the same as Ram getting jumped and then Emilia getting ambushed by the attackers by herself.


Ugh are you still seriously gonna keep making flimsy ass excuses and conjectures?

Listen dude this even acknowledged within the plot. Many people in cast would not be standing here if not for Suabru. He was key player in preventing tragedies of 1st, 2nd and now incoming 3rd arc by taking action with knowledge only he had access to. This is truth and what resulted in his recent behavior both terms of paranoia and self-entitlement. He was wrong to hold those debts over Emilia and should have try better to understand her POV, but his actions caused by stress and the attack on his self worth. This is fact.

I'm done with in this pointless circus argument. If believe the convenient fan-fiction in your head where this magically all lies and somehow the other characters survived those arcs on their own be my guest..
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we had to deal through such a boring arc to give us something so amazing the amount of suffering has reached all new levels which made season 1 look like child's play seriously even though there was a lot of fucked up shit going on a part of me was thinking "not to worried as long as he doesn't get tortured we can reset" though that all most happened but luckily the chains got broken (guess Rem was able to live long enough despite every bone being broken).

also pretty messed up that both resets have been caused by Puck and that ending man...not even a cut to black could of just ended it right there like that

i do have to give a shout out to Matsuoka i said before i don't like his voice but his voice acting as Betelgeuse is really well done

another thing isn't his reset a little late? each time they've gotten there the cultist are already pretty much done wreaking havoc it would take some time to gather even more people than just those two.
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Epicenter said:
WTH, that's Puck? Why would Puck lop off Subaru's head like that?

Because Subaru would have died no matter what. He was 100% going into the mansion, and because of Puck's power, going into the mansion would freeze Subaru to death. Lopping off his head is a more painless death. Puck was being merciful.

atsushi-kunn said:
I didn't blink once thru this 20min ep....
P-p-puck??...what happened?

Emilia died and Puck has flipped out due to grief, and potentially according to a contract they made.
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@terminador_2397: ah, thanks.

I'm COMPLETELY confused why Beejuice called Sub "Pride". I hope that is explained SOON. Did Sub curse himself for being prideful? @_@

It's most likely that Beejuice is one of a group of leaders in the witch cult, and that group is based on the Seven Deadly Sins(Beejuice is sloth.) He might have called Subaru pride because Subaru has a lot of the witchs scent on him, giving him the potential to be the last member.
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When he first died I was "oh crap did that really just send him all the way back to arc 1" and then I let out a sigh of relief

Then at the end when Rem commented about the smell on Subaru's face I thought she was talking about Betelgeuse's saliva from when he licked and then I realized it was witch miasma
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The voice acting of each character is too awesome for this episode especially Subaru.
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