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Nov 19, 2014 10:22 AM
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abystoma2 said:
Is there a reason that yuri/yaoi hentai are not added into hentai genre?

Yes, because Yuri/Yaoi are demography! The rating is enough.
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Unknownbutcool said:
abystoma2 said:
Is there a reason that yuri/yaoi hentai are not added into hentai genre?

Yes, because Yuri/Yaoi are demography! The rating is enough.
http://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=genre
Yuri and Yaoi aren't demographics, by the way, don't even know where you got that idea from.
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Paulo27 said:
Unknownbutcool said:

Yes, because Yuri/Yaoi are demography! The rating is enough.
http://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=genre
Yuri and Yaoi aren't demography, by the way, don't even know where you got that idea from.


But they are both hentai and yuri/yaoi. By same logic, comedy tag should be removed from anime with parody tag, as parody implies comedy.
You all need to watch Nami.

Nov 19, 2014 10:41 AM

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abystoma2 said:
Paulo27 said:
http://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=genre
Yuri and Yaoi aren't demography, by the way, don't even know where you got that idea from.


But they are both hentai and yuri/yaoi. By same logic, comedy tag should be removed from anime with parody tag, as parody implies comedy.


Can't you search by ratings though? I think that's enough because it filters Yuri and Yaoi out of "normal" hentai.
I don't disagree with you but can't really say I agree.
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Paulo27 said:
Unknownbutcool said:

Yes, because Yuri/Yaoi are demography! The rating is enough.
http://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=genre
Yuri and Yaoi aren't demographics, by the way, don't even know where you got that idea from.

Oh really, then why can't we add Shounen & Hentai or Yaoi with Shoujo?
Nov 19, 2014 12:25 PM

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Unknownbutcool said:
Paulo27 said:
http://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=genre
Yuri and Yaoi aren't demographics, by the way, don't even know where you got that idea from.

Oh really, then why can't we add Shounen & Hentai or Yaoi with Shoujo?
Because that doesn't make sense? You should probably look up what each of those words mean, that'd be a start.
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/23285/Poulette_no_Isu

Paulette, not Poulette.
reference: colorido.co.jp/works.html
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Jacquelin said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/23285/Poulette_no_Isu

Paulette, not Poulette.
reference: colorido.co.jp/works.html

Add http://anidb.net/a10541
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I recently found out that the DinoZone/DinoZaurs anime series got it's page changed?

http://myanimelist.net/anime/3499/DinoZone

It's now changed into a 5-episode OVA series.

But the actual OVA series is actually 24-episodes.
And there's a TV series with 26 episodes (aired 7-2000 - 12-2000)
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Xadyu, yeah, it was recently changed by me on user request. DinoZone was originally released as a 5-episode OVA series.
"TV series with 26 episodes" was actually produced by Sunrise Studio specifically for Western market. It is not included in the database because it doesn't meet the database guidelines. I can't recall all the details, but the same goes for the 24 episode version too.
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Jacquelin said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/23285/Poulette_no_Isu

Paulette, not Poulette.
reference: colorido.co.jp/works.html


Conflicting info here, because I had previously requested the current name which it now has due to the official site listing as "Poulette".
Here's a web archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20140709032343/http://colorido.co.jp/works.html
Also, her name is on the black board in the actual anime: http://i.imgur.com/WvDzxdq.jpg as "Poulette" as well.
It's weird that the official site has changed it now. ( ツ) chinese cartoons
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/28149/Nihon_Animator_Mihonichi

Not sure whether this has been asked or not, but why won't these get seperate entries?
Stuff like Young Animator Training Project (Little With Academia and Death Billiards and the likes) do get their own seperate entries. It think these two are comparable.
Or the KyoAni CMs. Those also get their seperate entries, even though they span like half a minute.
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Samu-tan said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/28149/Nihon_Animator_Mihonichi

Not sure whether this has been asked or not, but why won't these get seperate entries?
Stuff like Young Animator Training Project (Little With Academia and Death Billiards and the likes) do get their own seperate entries. It think these two are comparable.
Or the KyoAni CMs. Those also get their seperate entries, even though they span like half a minute.

Because if it's not popular, it's not worth the effort, as I interpret it.

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http://myanimelist.net/anime/7779/Andersen_Monogatari
I submitted an image that actually corresponds to this, but the current one is from a movie with the same name, so please delete it. Also please remove the synonyms in foreign languages, I'm pretty sure they don't belong here (or at least it's the first time I see that).

http://myanimelist.net/anime/5098/Andersen_Monogatari:_Match_Uri_no_Shoujo
I don't see why there's a subtitle when the Japanese name in the entry does not contain it (and neither does the title on the image). Please remove it. Also please remove the synonym "Anderson Monogatari Movie" which is a meaningless distinction and is misspelled.
Nov 21, 2014 2:56 PM

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Samu-tan said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/28149/Nihon_Animator_Mihonichi

Not sure whether this has been asked or not, but why won't these get seperate entries?
Stuff like Young Animator Training Project (Little With Academia and Death Billiards and the likes) do get their own seperate entries. It think these two are comparable.
Or the KyoAni CMs. Those also get their seperate entries, even though they span like half a minute.


See Ani*Kuri15 and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann: Parallel Works.
Granted, the KyoAni CMs should probably be in the same entry.
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Getting 500 error trying to add entry.

So I will ask while waiting, can these films be added? They are released on DVD by independent organization and is Japanese animation, and there are other such entries on the site, but I guess this is a bit more abstract.

http://homepage3.nifty.com/maya_y/Site/works.html
Nov 21, 2014 8:43 PM

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Kineta said:
I believe someone asked why we then have multiple movie entries for franchises. This comes from the rule: "Theatrical releases will have separate entries unless all chapters are aired together." The purpose of this rule is partially to allow users to set these movies as completed between chapters (much like the split cour TV series rule). Imagine if the Eva movies were all together in one entry: users would have the entry stuck on their lists as "Currently Airing" for 7+ years, with 2-3 year gaps of no new episodes. Aside from this, movies are a bit special in terms of release method, which also gives rise to a special rule for compiled theatrical versions to receive additional entries.

We aren't looking down on one-shots or shorts (there are many shorts in the DB with individual entries). We're simply trying to manage the database in an effective manner which lies somewhere in the middle ground between the aforementioned two opposing user views.


So what about this? http://myanimelist.net/anime/7616/Michi
2002 to 2008 and grouped in the same entry... why? because it's not "theatrical release", it's short experimental films. Maybe you don't consciously "look down" on shorts, but in treating shorts differently than mainstream releases it still creates the issues you think you are averting.

I can see where you're coming from but trying to sort shorts as releases or collections just makes no sense when you look at outliers like this and how much of it comes down to individual interpretation. In the end I think it'd make more sense to just accept that they are individual titles and stop catering to people too lazy to look them up.

The "user view" thing is just deferring responsibility to the user base, but that shouldn't happen since you don't compromise for other releases, there's no set of rules that can categorize all shorts appropriately, so it's needlessly complicating things for the sake of artificially decreasing the number of entries.
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#6924 Done
#6931 Done
#6946 As stated by lanblade, we will leave it as Poulette for the time being.
#6951 Addes Yuri to the 5544 entry

Pending genre changes:
#6923
#6951
cat_clanNov 21, 2014 11:36 PM
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#6931 Done

Shouldn't "Nov 25, 2010" be changed to "Feb 25, 2011"?
Nov 22, 2014 5:00 AM
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/23121/Jinsei/
There's no Drama and Romance in this anime. There's no Ecchi either.
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http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=14471 add Historical genre

http://myanimelist.net/anime/27811/Shaolin_Wuzang add 《中华小子》 and 中华小子 as Japanese (technically Chinese) title.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/3259/Lemon_Angel_%281988%29 add Lemon Angel II as synonym.
abystoma2Nov 22, 2014 7:23 AM
You all need to watch Nami.

Nov 22, 2014 11:29 AM

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http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=11825 add Historical genre.
You all need to watch Nami.

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lanblade said:
Jacquelin said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/23285/Poulette_no_Isu

Paulette, not Poulette.
reference: colorido.co.jp/works.html


Conflicting info here, because I had previously requested the current name which it now has due to the official site listing as "Poulette".
Here's a web archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20140709032343/http://colorido.co.jp/works.html
Also, her name is on the black board in the actual anime: http://i.imgur.com/WvDzxdq.jpg as "Poulette" as well.
It's weird that the official site has changed it now. ( ツ) chinese cartoons

Well it's written with ポ, obviously if it were Poulette it would be プ.
Nov 22, 2014 8:51 PM

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Jacquelin said:
lanblade said:


Conflicting info here, because I had previously requested the current name which it now has due to the official site listing as "Poulette".
Here's a web archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20140709032343/http://colorido.co.jp/works.html
Also, her name is on the black board in the actual anime: http://i.imgur.com/WvDzxdq.jpg as "Poulette" as well.
It's weird that the official site has changed it now. ( ツ) chinese cartoons

Well it's written with ポ, obviously if it were Poulette it would be プ.


Why would it have been プ? That's romanized to "pu".
ポ is romanized to "po" which fits the Po in Poulette.
Hence why it's used in spelling for Polle a municipality in Germany, Poljot the Russian watch brand, for the Polesine Parmense and Polesella in Italy, for polenta the food, and for Polessk the Russian town.

Granted it is also what's used to spell the man's name "Paul" (ポール). But if it was the feminine version of Paul (Paulette), shouldn't it have been spelled ポーレット?
Because googling ポーレット brings up famous people named Paulette. And even a restaurant in Japan.
http://bistrot-paulette.jimdo.com/

ポレット only brings up the anime and some filter ventilation cover thingie.
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/22177/Madonna
Main title: Madonna (Movie)

http://myanimelist.net/anime/25681/Kamisama_Hajimemashita%E2%97%8E
+synonym: Kamisama Kiss
So it comes up with the first season when that is the search entry.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/8603/Tegami:_Haikei_Juugo_no_Kimi_e
Is this an anime? I got a copy of it and nothing is actually animated. I didn't realize the first sentence of the synopsis was literal. It's coloured stills set to music as the camera pans over them. I know picture dramas are that essentially as well but those are linked to a main series. But on the other hand voice manga panels aren't allowed and they're essentially stills too.

So IDK.
If a mod would like to see it for themselves, I'm can send my copy to them as it's skimp to find online.
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http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=23321

Title should be changed to 'Log Horizon 2nd Series', as シリーズ is 'Series' not 'Season' (シーズン).
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/24405/World_Trigger

Official website should be this instead of the Toei site.
Nov 23, 2014 2:38 AM

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http://myanimelist.net/anime/4688/Minna_Agechau add Romance genre.
You all need to watch Nami.

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I made a thread back questioning the MC list for the Akame ga Kill anime. It seems I wasn't in the wrong doing so with it deciding to stray from the manga and do its own ending.

Please do one of the following:
1. Remove Mine as a MC from the anime as her value is no more than any other of the Night Raid characters.
2. Make the other Night Raid characters that have just as much meaning as her MC's.

If you're up to date with the anime, you should understand.
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Is there anything I can do to facilitate splitting the Ranma 1/2 anime into Ranma 1/2 & Ranma 1/2 Nettohen?
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animalia said:
Is there anything I can do to facilitate splitting the Ranma 1/2 anime into Ranma 1/2 & Ranma 1/2 Nettohen?

http://myanimelist.net/anime/210/Ranma_%C2%BD/moreinfo
AniDB has them split, btw
Also read guidelines. In short, even if there was a gap or change in title originally that would qualify for split, no action will be taken for old shows that are already in the DB
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/8651/Newmanoid_Cam
Japanese: Newmanoid CAM ~キャム=キャスティン~
Source: Official Site
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/5648/Bouken_Shitemoii_Goro add Ready for Adventure as english title.
You all need to watch Nami.

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http://myanimelist.net/anime/22297/Fate/stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_(TV)/

I was wondering whether the "mystery" genre should be added or not.

Since in the first few episodes, it isn't known which servant belongs to which who. We're on episode 7 (8 if you count episode 00) and all of the masters still aren't known.

Archer's past/identity is a mystery (Saber's as well, unless you've read/seen F/Z), one of the main mysteries of UBW actually.

Sakura being seen with Gilgamesh and whatever they have to do with each other is a mystery.

Also what happened 10 years ago, when Shirou was rescued by Emiya Kiritsugu. Also a mystery (unless you've read/seen F/Z).

Would the mystery genre be appropriate for this show?
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/5648/Bouken_Shitemoii_Goro add Comedy genre.
You all need to watch Nami.

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Everything should be done up to this point. (Unless I managed to miss something.)

abystoma2 said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/3259/Lemon_Angel_%281988%29 add Lemon Angel II as synonym.
Could only find a torrent using that title, I don't think that's good enough to add it as a synonym.

lanblade said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/8603/Tegami:_Haikei_Juugo_no_Kimi_e
Is this an anime? I got a copy of it and nothing is actually animated. I didn't realize the first sentence of the synopsis was literal. It's coloured stills set to music as the camera pans over them. I know picture dramas are that essentially as well but those are linked to a main series. But on the other hand voice manga panels aren't allowed and they're essentially stills too.

So IDK.
If a mod would like to see it for themselves, I'm can send my copy to them as it's skimp to find online.
The pictures were drawn specifically for the music video and it's apparently part of this big Minna no Uta series. So it's qualified enough to stay.

Ejc said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=23321

Title should be changed to 'Log Horizon 2nd Series', as シリーズ is 'Series' not 'Season' (シーズン).
We set 第2シリーズ as 2nd Season in the main title. I added a synonym though.

belatkuro said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/24405/World_Trigger

Official website should be this instead of the Toei site.
That site seems to be more about World Trigger in general while Toei's is more about the anime.

abystoma2 said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/5648/Bouken_Shitemoii_Goro add Ready for Adventure as english title.
You have a source? I can't find this English title anywhere. We don't add fan translations of titles.

Samu-tan said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/22297/Fate/stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_(TV)/

I was wondering whether the "mystery" genre should be added or not.
It's primarily an action/fantasy anime. I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think there's enough focus on these mysteries for the genre to be added.
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/24175/Nozo_x_Kimi
It's not finished airing yet.

Done
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/1531/Shakugan_no_Shana_Special:_Koi_to_Onsen_no_Kougai_Gakushuu!

Type should be OVA. It was released by itself and not as a part of the main series.
Sauce: http://www.shakugan.com/contents/hp0017/index02880000.htmlJ.C.Staff

Can you please add this under More Info as well:
The events of the OVA take place after the 13th episode of the first season.
There is a special included as well titled:
Naze nani Shana! Tokubetsu-hen (なぜなにシャナ!特別編)
OVA SP: Marianne's Exploration of J.C.Staff (マリアンヌのJ.C.STAFF探訪)
It starts out like a regular Naze Nani Shana special but after the introduction it becomes live action and you are shown a tour of J.C.Staff during Shakugan no Shana's production.

PLEASE READ THE BELOW ALL THE WAY THROUGH DUE TO SOME BACKTRACKING
http://myanimelist.net/anime/3956/Shakugan_no_Shana_II_Specials
The 3rd special here is also DVD magazine exclusive. I think it should have its own entry as an OVA since the first 2 are specials included on the DVD release of the main anime. It was released a year and a half after special #2 so it doesn't quite fit together.
Sauce: http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/newreleases/978-4-04-868122-3/
And also because there are 3 episodes in conjunction with the 1st season that got released on a DVD magazine as well that I just submitted to the database. They're part of the same Dengeki Bunko DVD magazine line.

Same issue here: http://myanimelist.net/anime/1066/Shakugan_no_Shana_Specials
The "Itadaki no Hecate-tan" (aka "Master Throne Hecatetan") episode is a magazine exclusive of my new entry: http://myanimelist.net/anime/28603
I fudged up, the new entry should list 4 eps with a 00:06:54 duration. I completely forgot about that episode. Please add the ep title so the More Info section too. And "Itadaki no Hecate-tan" should be transferred as a synonym.
Anyway, now that means the original #1066 anime entry should be 2 eps that end on May 23, 2008.
Since I jumped the gun on making the new entry, the current title doesn't reflect all 4 eps as Itadaki no Hecate-tan is not a part of the Naze Nani Shana trio. So I guess naming the entry after the magazine the 4 were in would be better? "Anime "Shakugan no Shana" no Subete" (アニメ『灼眼のシャナ』ノ全テ)
And back to Shakugan no Shana II Specials where I wanted that 3rd ep split. Since it's the same should it also be named after its magazine? "Anime "Shakugan no Shana II" no Subete" (アニメ『灼眼のシャナII』ノ全テ) At least the both of them will match that way.
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Nihon Animator Mihonichi

Each individual work deserves its own entry.

I don't understand why each work from Anime Mirai (Little Witch Academia, Death Billiard, Wasurenagumo, Buta, Ojiisan no Lamp, etc. etc.) gets its own entry, while these don't. Length should not be an issue here.
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Nihon Animator Mihonichi

Each individual work deserves its own entry.

I don't understand why each work from Anime Mirai (Little Witch Academia, Death Billiard, Wasurenagumo, Buta, Ojiisan no Lamp, etc. etc.) gets its own entry, while these don't. Length should not be an issue here.


I greatly agree with that. It´s just confusing as it is now.
You all need to watch Nami.

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abystoma2 said:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/5648/Bouken_Shitemoii_Goro add Ready for Adventure as english title.
You have a source? I can't find this English title anywhere. We don't add fan translations of titles.

http://myanimeshelf.com/anime/10741_Bouken_Shitemoii_Goro does this count?

Also, still waiting for http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=28339 to be added as Dementia. Or does it not qualify?
abystoma2Nov 26, 2014 5:53 AM
You all need to watch Nami.

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ap19, abystoma2, Each episode released in the Nihon Animator Mihonichi block does stand out indeed, but based mostly on the weekly release schedule, same producer/studio for all works, episodes being numbered and so on, it is considered an ONA series, and will stay merged.

Anime Mirai works might be merged in the future as well, as they should have been included in one entry from the beginning anyway, but at that time the nature of the project wasn't known well.

I apologize for the inconvenience it might cause you guys.


abystoma2 > http://myanimeshelf.com/anime/10741_Bouken_Shitemoii_Goro does this count?
No, that's a fansite, it's not an official source.

> added as Dementia. Or does it not qualify?
added now. Thank you.
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Anime Mirai works might be merged in the future as well, as they should have been included in one entry from the beginning anyway, but at that time the nature of the project wasn't known well.

I apologize for the inconvenience it might cause you guys.


ap19 > http://myanimeshelf.com/anime/10741_Bouken_Shitemoii_Goro does this count?
No, that's a fansite, it's not an official source.




Not that it matters, but the Bouken bit wasn't me but abystoma2.

My question was resolved by Kineta on the MAL IRC. From Kineta's post here, I suppose each year of Anime Mirai should be split while the works within the same year/airing should be merged, and Short Peace should be merged, in order to keep things consistent. I can't say I like the idea of keeping Nihon Animator Mihonichi together (primarily for scoring, but also for respecting each individual work), but if there really are users who think it should remain merged in addition to the cluttering database problem, then I suppose my own opinion isn't of much use here.
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I don't see the problem, I already mentioned a couple examples couple pages ago that are the same as this one, if they are released on a certain schedule, have about the same lenght, same producer, etc then they should be in one entry, Anime Mirai shouldn't be merged because nothing is consistent from entry to entry.
Regarding Bake, I imagine it wasn't split because it kept the title, had the title for the series changed it'd have probably gotten another entry, the names you see in NAM's description are like episode names, not different projects.
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ap19, sorry about the bouken part. Corrected.
Anime Mirai entries aside for now this seems to become a bigger issue in general, as more and more such works are released.
As you've mentioned, DB guidelines doesn't cover everything and should be updated and expanded. But that's not an easy task. You might want to read this recent post by Kineta that elaborates a bit more on the challenges we are facing.

There also could be a separate discussion for Nihon Animator Mihonichi case, although it's pretty clear that users would choose convinience over keeping the entries tight, giving the chance to voice different opinions might lead to a consensus.

Edit: That's fine, i guess. :)
LeknaatNov 26, 2014 9:00 AM
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