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I already had this ending spoiled for me, but I definitely enjoyed this ending was cinematic as hell, despite me watching it on potato quality. |
| I'm so happy that Light lost in the end. Good story with some edge of your seat moments. I somewhat prefer the manga though. 7/10 Always love that moment when Matsuda shot Light. That guy is the MVP. |
Pixel_VapourAug 25, 2017 12:54 PM
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Aishiteruze said: windy said: How can you guys say Light is awesome :< I don't.. I stopped liking light ever since he tricked rem into killing L. Damn him! I stopped liking Light ever since he killed Raye Penber |
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Mancelee88 said: Need some advice I just watch the episode were l dies is if worth watching the rest I really love l and can't bring my San to watch the rest without him in it Well Light gets his just deserts in the end so I'd say it's worth watching just for that. |
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| I may be in the minority but this ending was so satisfying for me (as a Light hater) after enduring the previous few infuriating episodes of everything going his way, I really enjoyed seeing him lose, no matter how it was executed. lol but honestly Light deserved to go out like a little bitch so I'm glad I kept watching, but I'm also glad it was Ryuk to be the one to write his name in the end. Maybe it's just because I can't stand Light and root for anyone to outsmart him no matter who it is that I can't see the same flaws as you guys can, but I don't get why everyone seems to dislike Near? lmao I actually thought he was great - not as good as L of course but I still think he's adorable and an interesting character. The explanation of switching out the books and everything was pretty weird and requires a tiny bit of suspension of disbelief but it's still good enough for me; I'm just glad Kira is gone :P Also maybe I missed something but did it ever explain what happened to Lights mom and sister? cause they're the characters I feel most bad for out of all of this :( |
mirp448Sep 1, 2017 1:39 AM
Drake_Vader said: Yiuumii said: I had high hopes for this anime ... but no ... Still ish Light could have had is crazy God world. Or that L would have discovered him in first place. But more then half of the anime was totally boring and a pain to me. Weeell it dropped from 9/8 to 4. I need something refreshing after this. You should try LA : BB Murders(novel) and then play KillBook: Shinigami in a Cell(Android game) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wKillBook_5147591&hl=en seems interesting, will try that thanks! |
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| @mirp448 I'm a fan of Light, and I can say that the ending was fair. Light was a brilliant character. He was smart, good-looking, fair-minded. All these things were enough for him to take his rightful place (he could be a secretary or atleast a good policeman), but he preferred his godlike ambitions. He started revelling in power and making mistakes. He didnt understand when to stop, that was his grave mistake. L (he is my favorite character as well) passed away and I understood that Kira must die. Light went mad. He didnt spare nobody. His father, Misa, Takada, L, and many random victims; - they all were just the tools for carrying out his plan. It wasnt worth it. Also, his plan was leaky. He didnt know how to be a God or how to rule the world. He just wanted to kill everybody who opposed him and especially L. He was like an animal at bay. I was glad that Ryuk killed him. I didnt want to see such a great character killed by some idiots or Near. About Near: I dislike him so much cuz he replaced L. It was a very bad decision of script writer or character designer to make him so similar to L. Its like "Hey, we just killed your favorite character, cheers! By the way, we have a new ingenius detective kid to replace him and make you angry! A u happy now?". Anyway, this character is bad written and looks like a contrived coincidence. tl;dr - Death Notes shouldnt be used by humans. |
| “All men are jealous idiots. And women are stupid too, to feel happy about it. It's true, there are idiots everywhere!” “I know it's difficult to look past my brilliant tail, brain and looks, but I also have excellent ears and eyes.” “I need to have a drink, and I need one soon!” “I am Holo the Wise Wolf so you shut up!” |
| Just watched the last episode recently and want to say that i am somewhat confused by how it actually turned out. The decisions of both main characters seem a bit weird and overcomplicated. Why make such a long term and hard to implement schemes if you dont even need to contact anyone to perform execution? As i remember shinigami eyes work even through remote views so anyone can just place a hidden camera somewhare and kill anyone. The Light had a dedicated servant in his command and could just order him to eleminate whom who he thinks poses a threat to his plans. No need to even risk himself as it was in the series. No need to play a double agent and allow any suspiction. At least, just carry a gun with you, sometimes it just as effective as a Death Note. Also have to note that without a note with Light's script on it it's completely unprovable that it's he was the murderer. I dont know how much pages the death note has, but you still can burn any used pages and be in safety. |
| I would have liked the ending better if Light won, but he didn't, oh well. But the only way to make him lose, is via Deus Ex Machina - duplicating the real Death Note within a day exactly the same, how did Giovani did it, was truly a miracle... to a point someone as precise as Mikami couldn't spot it. Would have given this a 9, dropped it to an 8. Still an entertaining watch, agreed with most posters here who said it should've ended at episode 26. |
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| Good 7/10 series overall. Season 1 was great, being a consistent 8 or 9/10, whereas season 2 felt tacked on and only really got exciting in the last three episodes. Was satisfying to see the smug look wiped off Light's face, even if it was only really due to Mikami screwing up. I thought the final sendoff being from Ryuk was a nice touch and thematically fitting. Still, season 2's existence felt quite unnecessary. A better ending would have been some kind of dramatic encounter between Light and L in which they both die, although that would require changing the plot somewhat. The show was most appealing to me when it focused on the mind game battle between Light and L - two equal geniuses, but Near and Mello fall short in comparison. |
| Wow. And so it ends. Honestly, I hear I lot of people being disappointed with the ending, and after seeing it for myself I really can't see why. I think it's one of the best executed endings I've seen in anime- and I have seen a lot of anime. I've been counting down the episodes until Light would eventually die, but somehow, this episode made me pity the hell out of him. Especially the part where he was running past his younger self...I actually cried because he could've been something great and look where he ended up- bleeding out on the stairs of an abandoned warehouse. The whole thing probably got covered up and nobody would ever know what he was truly trying to achieve. It's ironic, but he'll just go down as one of the delusional mass-murderers he was so intent in ridding the world of. Ultimately, Light was the victim of his own sense of justice; his unnatural notion of good, in and of itself is "evil". Because no matter how great somebody is, and how "just" their initial intentions, it's impossible for one person to change the entire world, especially one in which everyone is both just & unjust at different points. That's something Light didn't understand, and I think that's the major difference between him and L, despite all the similarities. Seems to me like there is no real justice in the world of DN and the real one- the only real justice is just to let the world- and nature- run its course. Maybe that's why he saw L before he died- it's really a huge reminder of that sentiment. And despite the initial intent to flee, he looked like he finally understood that when he closed his eyes. Mikami killed himself and Misa killed herself. Like attracts like, I guess. Ultimately, Light was pretty lost and empty to begin with...so it's only natural that the people he attracted were much the same. Matsuda actually did his job so I was pretty proud. No way did I expect him of all people to pull the trigger. He must've felt so betrayed ;-; I think I'll be pondering this one for a while, and it's a re-watcher, that's for sure. I was sceptical when I started the series, but without a doubt, Death Note is an anime that definitely deserves to be regarded as highly as it is. |
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| Just rewatched it for the first time after my first encounter with it and I have to admit I totally forgot how amazing the first 15ish episodes where.. And how much I hated the rest of it.I gave it 8/10 years ago and I think that will stay, the first part (maybe minus the memory loss episodes, those felt sort of boring) where 10/10. Then the rest was kinda meh. It was just no fun watching. Felt like a totally different anime. This final episode was good enough I guess. If I had to compare DN to something it would be psycho pass, but PP had the option for a better ending. Also I guess the fan theory of light becoming a shinigami himself is solid. The first 5 or 6 episodes Ryuk made it sound like this would be the big surprise for him. Thus he probably did create his world. Kira believers are big enough to do stuff on their own now (and as a shinigami he can still interfere) But after all those years one question remains unanswered! How many pages does the DN have? I expected him to run out of space at some point, so sticking normal paper back in and thus turning it into part of the DN was my guess. Considering the end it would hillarious if that would work. PS: Considering this still is the most popular anime even with all its flaws kind of fits the industry in general. |
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Comander-07 said: Just rewatched it for the first time after my first encounter with it and I have to admit I totally forgot how amazing the first 15ish episodes where.. And how much I hated the rest of it.I gave it 8/10 years ago and I think that will stay, the first part (maybe minus the memory loss episodes, those felt sort of boring) where 10/10. Then the rest was kinda meh. It was just no fun watching. Felt like a totally different anime. This final episode was good enough I guess. If I had to compare DN to something it would be psycho pass, but PP had the option for a better ending. Also I guess the fan theory of light becoming a shinigami himself is solid. The first 5 or 6 episodes Ryuk made it sound like this would be the big surprise for him. Thus he probably did create his world. Kira believers are big enough to do stuff on their own now (and as a shinigami he can still interfere) But after all those years one question remains unanswered! How many pages does the DN have? I expected him to run out of space at some point, so sticking normal paper back in and thus turning it into part of the DN was my guess. Considering the end it would hillarious if that would work. PS: Considering this still is the most popular anime even with all its flaws kind of fits the industry in general. I think the Death Note never runs out or something like that. I still maintain the thought that Death Note is heavily overrated. Still better than AoT though. |
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Pixel_Vapour said: Comander-07 said: Just rewatched it for the first time after my first encounter with it and I have to admit I totally forgot how amazing the first 15ish episodes where.. And how much I hated the rest of it.I gave it 8/10 years ago and I think that will stay, the first part (maybe minus the memory loss episodes, those felt sort of boring) where 10/10. Then the rest was kinda meh. It was just no fun watching. Felt like a totally different anime. This final episode was good enough I guess. If I had to compare DN to something it would be psycho pass, but PP had the option for a better ending. Also I guess the fan theory of light becoming a shinigami himself is solid. The first 5 or 6 episodes Ryuk made it sound like this would be the big surprise for him. Thus he probably did create his world. Kira believers are big enough to do stuff on their own now (and as a shinigami he can still interfere) But after all those years one question remains unanswered! How many pages does the DN have? I expected him to run out of space at some point, so sticking normal paper back in and thus turning it into part of the DN was my guess. Considering the end it would hillarious if that would work. PS: Considering this still is the most popular anime even with all its flaws kind of fits the industry in general. I think the Death Note never runs out or something like that. I still maintain the thought that Death Note is heavily overrated. Still better than AoT though. It seems like it, but considering how everything in DN is explained in detail it was always bothering me that this was never remotely stated. We clearly saw the names dont disappear, so do they erase them after they are dead? Is the death note reusable? That may sound stupid, but they should ran out of paper at some point. why do you think its overrated? I rated it lower, but I still think half of it was great |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would describe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Comander-07 said: Pixel_Vapour said: I think the Death Note never runs out or something like that. I still maintain the thought that Death Note is heavily overrated. Still better than AoT though. It seems like it, but considering how everything in DN is explained in detail it was always bothering me that this was never remotely stated. We clearly saw the names dont disappear, so do they erase them after they are dead? Is the death note reusable? That may sound stupid, but they should ran out of paper at some point. why do you think its overrated? I rated it lower, but I still think half of it was great It has too many flaws to be deemed as great and popular as it is. Mainly the second half. The first half was a 9/10 though. |
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Pixel_Vapour said: Comander-07 said: It seems like it, but considering how everything in DN is explained in detail it was always bothering me that this was never remotely stated. We clearly saw the names dont disappear, so do they erase them after they are dead? Is the death note reusable? That may sound stupid, but they should ran out of paper at some point. why do you think its overrated? I rated it lower, but I still think half of it was great It has too many flaws to be deemed as great and popular as it is. Mainly the second half. The first half was a 9/10 though. I think its common knowledge the second part of DN sucked |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would describe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Comander-07 said: Pixel_Vapour said: It has too many flaws to be deemed as great and popular as it is. Mainly the second half. The first half was a 9/10 though. I think its common knowledge the second part of DN sucked Which is why I'm surprised about how high a score it has. It should really be within the 8 - 8.20 range. |
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Pixel_Vapour said: I guess either people dont care about the bad part or as it seems many simply fall for the "good guy wins ending" with Kira as the bad maniac and N as Ls replacement. If you want the kira to loose I guess you care less about all the BSComander-07 said: It seems like it, but considering how everything in DN is explained in detail it was always bothering me that this was never remotely stated. We clearly saw the names dont disappear, so do they erase them after they are dead? Is the death note reusable? That may sound stupid, but they should ran out of paper at some point. why do you think its overrated? I rated it lower, but I still think half of it was great It has too many flaws to be deemed as great and popular as it is. Mainly the second half. The first half was a 9/10 though. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would describe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Light should've won and the bit with the notebooks was a bit of a stretch but I'm still left on a high note with a good resolution. Finally made it to the end after I've watched the first half a handful of times. |
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| You can't predict when a guy goes cray-cray, eh? Mikami had enough reasons to lose it. Not the best timing though. |
| And still, Bill will live on. He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god. And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living, until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet. Until the sun is long since gone. Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open. Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from. He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out. |
Mad said: it still was an ok ending. If Kira was to win, it should have ended in ep 26 anyway. And the whole "note-replica in one day"- ting was a little stupid... Mikami would have noticed the difference right away. Yagami should just do it the way I would! :p Let the notbook stay fake and have Mikami write down all names except Near's :) (don't know if it'd work or not, but at least Near's face expression would be interesting :p) YES, I THOUGHT SAME THING!!! OMG, we prob brain-tw1n's, -xdfp`" |
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| How exactly did Near hear Light's thoughts when Light said "Or maybe Mikami betrayed me" in his head? lol It was a good episode |
| At Last it ended. L and hes true successors win. They solved the case. I'am very proud :). Overall : 8/10 |
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| Finally! After binged watching this anime.. one of the most top anime to watch and now off my bucket-list. For my thoughts on this arc, I really liked how he died there. A few hours ago, I was on episode 25 and L just died. I couldn't accept it and I totally lost the enthusiasm to watch this anime. But I just went on and on.. Then finally the conclusion! I'm on the side where he had to die. EVENTUALLY. He was a good person on the start and this machine (notebook) has made him who he is now. I bet we have things that change us whether its a form of a book, addiction, games .etc I guess that is something the author would like us to know. Too much of something is bad. The motive was good but how he does it is what makes us human or not. The end truly justifies the means. He had to suffer for the things he did. For Matsuda, he was really key part of the story for me. He asks the question, "What was it all for?" Everything just for that? He dying on the stairs was a direct reference on how L massaged his foot. I really want to vent out everything but man! A book that doesn't make the reader asks question is not worthy of being called a book. So as to anime. This is TRULY one of the best. |
| I had to hide the tears for this one. I really wanted light to win. At the end you could really see how truly alone light was, and that he really believed that he was doing something good for all human kind and that he was the one to make the new world. He really did show how scared and pathetic he really was, even though he wanted to make a difference. Am I the only one who was sad to see both light die, and Misa die? Even if people admitted it or not, everyone was secretly glad about what Light did, seeing those horrible criminals got put of the planant, yet light was the only one with the balls and the mind to put it into action, only someone truly heartless like Light could do something like that, and thats why he was meant to be chosen for the notebook |
| I am a little disappointed by the anime. It is a great story, but not masterpiece. I wanted Light to win this, because I don't like Near and Mello and now the story just ends... and I don't like that the kid is smarter than Light. Best character was L Lawliet then Misa Amane. It would be nice if Misa lived after Light died and Near dies instead, together with Light. The first part before Near and Mello shows up was way better. The only good thing in the second part are Mikami and Takada. |
| (づ￣ ³￣)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´｡✪ω✪｡｀) I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;) |
Piegoose said: Comander-07 said: I guess either people dont care about the bad part or as it seems many simply fall for the "good guy wins ending" with Kira as the bad maniac and N as Ls replacement. If you want the kira to loose I guess you care less about all the BS I enjoyed the different vibe the show gave off after L passed, it felt large-scale and that Light was closer to being ruler of the world. The second-half definitely could've been done better, but I also had smaller issues with the first half anyways (like how Light convinces Naomi Misora to trust him twice, and how L made so many convenient assumptions, predicting his possible death twice). But it's fun and there's great characters still even after L dies. You have to appreciate Light's character I guess to stay into it. First time I watched I was rooting for him, but I don't think the show pulled anything by revealing he'd gone mad with power. Yeah I feel they hit a dead end by giving him such a cult and making him mad, him winning (would pretty much be continuing to be undercover, just without open antagonism) and keeping his level headed character would be my favourite ending. After they made him mad however they only had the choice to either make him win as a mad demi god or well what they did. The main problem is that I could live with L winning, but not his replacements. So the canon ending for me will always be Light defeating L and thats it. Victory. Kinda like how Zankyou no Terror had a real disappointing mid part but atleast got the ending right. >like how Light convinces Naomi Misora to trust him twice Wasnt that the part where Light says something like "gods of fate blessed him"? I took that as the author beeing honest in how deus ex machina this was, L is much worse, yes. Not quite the all knowing strategist from Arslan Senki but very close (If you arent familiar with that show, the main strategist frequently/always predicts *exactly and in detail* what the enemy will be doing, took all the tension away) For me L stopped beeing a character worth "supporting" when he randomly abducted a girl and lived out his bondage fetish. It was years back when I first watched this an I already was kinda put off by this. So Light had no competition, with L becoming unlikeable and his replacements both beeing shitheads. The show hitting the turbo halfway through was great with TTGL and KLK, Death Note beeing like this would be a dream. |
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Piegoose said: Well yes, that is why ultimately he had to loose. Its just a problem how/to whom he lost. And if we are talking about deus ex machina BS - copying the entire death note with his exacty writing in one night? (something like this happened right?) Would have been far better if some higher up shinigamis urged Ryuk to kill him off, since his interference was going overboard or whatever. Comander-07 said: Yeah I feel they hit a dead end by giving him such a cult and making him mad, him winning (would pretty much be continuing to be undercover, just without open antagonism) and keeping his level headed character would be my favourite ending. After they made him mad however they only had the choice to either make him win as a mad demi god or well what they did. The main problem is that I could live with L winning, but not his replacements. So the canon ending for me will always be Light defeating L and thats it. Victory. Kinda like how Zankyou no Terror had a real disappointing mid part but atleast got the ending right. >like how Light convinces Naomi Misora to trust him twice Wasnt that the part where Light says something like "gods of fate blessed him"? I took that as the author beeing honest in how deus ex machina this was, L is much worse, yes. Not quite the all knowing strategist from Arslan Senki but very close (If you arent familiar with that show, the main strategist frequently/always predicts *exactly and in detail* what the enemy will be doing, took all the tension away) For me L stopped beeing a character worth "supporting" when he randomly abducted a girl and lived out his bondage fetish. It was years back when I first watched this an I already was kinda put off by this. So Light had no competition, with L becoming unlikeable and his replacements both beeing shitheads. The show hitting the turbo halfway through was great with TTGL and KLK, Death Note beeing like this would be a dream. Yeah I always wished it went uber large-scale after L dies. Light kills off the task force and then anonymously directs people to go after governments and such to take direct control of the world. It'd be a hard plot to write intelligently though since there'd be so much variables the writerd have to become aware of (not that I know myself). I just finished my rewatch since near its release, but it really is consistent that Light was mad with power, he always was. Near was right, he used delusions of justice to justify his abuse of power over other people. Kira is evil, even though I originally rooted for him. But if Light had more restraint, was willing to become more knowledgable about his victims, and kill without worrying about flaunting his existence, he could've done good for the world. But going for quantity of names like he did is just delusional to bettering the world. From a moral standpoint I have problems feeling bad for murders and rapists getting killed in a pretty nature way (heart attack), while at the same time I cant support organisations who abduct people. The main appeal always was the intellectual battle between Light and L, with Light slowly degrading second. To make the show interesting after L was defeated we would need other characters as smart as them, which would in turn make L and Light less special. Its just a shame, but also kinda ironic, how one of the prime examples for anime and one of the go to recommendations for newbs is inherently such a mess. Because that shows so much about the industry. What would have been the other option? The show becoming semi boring, stretching over 100 eps with endless hiatus in between, while both Light and L have to go out of character because the author is at a loss and nothing as interesting as the first seasons happening ever again. And the adaption ultimately just stopping with an anime original open end because nobody can be bothered to care for a 10 year old project. Like with most other anime these days. (I feel the way serialization works kills many good anime these days, as someone who doesnt enjoy manga nearly as much and LNs still taking years to get translated I have no other option. When an author gets a spot for his franchise, he/producers cling to it for as long as possible, turning a show which should have been over long ago into an unfinished semi abandoned behemoth. Usually writing doesnt get better for that project, as characters are exhausted and events will end up beeing just repetitions) So we probably got the best possible ending, if you dont fancy the inofficial L died Light wins open end. |
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Piegoose said: It was already Light vs the government though, just that having more people involved makes it easier to get infiltrated, so they used small teams.The notebook copying was definitely deus ex machina bs, I didn't buy it but I enjoyed the episode around it and the character development. My head-canon to live with that moment is that Mikami was hard at work checking the fake notebook, so he wasn't as thorough with checking the real notebook since he wasn't in contact with it, so the SPK could get away with a bit sloppy job. Imo I'd rather have Kira be settled with on human terms like anime though than just put an end to anonymously by shinigami king. Idk bout you but heart attack happens to be one of the most terrifying ways to die for me lol, so if I was Light and knew I was going to die by Ryuk, I'd beg for a cause of death to be written. For me I was as interested in Light as the battle, mostly because there was so much artificial manipulation going on around it. But after that ended, the show could've been interesting in different ways, like how I was saying Light vs governments would've been cool. I don't think it's a case of length as to why it's a mess. It could've been longer with a different plot and I'd have enjoyed it more. It's a good length though, I just think the author should've been a bit more original after L died instead of just copying his character with a inferior version. Mello was a bit interesting, but I never was comfortable with a teen heading the underworld, especially one as emotional as him. I'd like the unofficial L vs Light ending if I didn't love the ending so much, besides the convoluted nature of it. The problem with having not so shitty L replacements would be downgrading both L and Light by making them not special anymore. If you can find smart people at every corner they loose their charm. |
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