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| at least Iok die. And I don't why but it's like Ride will make another season of this lol. |
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| Is it me or is Rustal wanting to implement those policies came straight out of nowhere?.. It just seems out of character that after seizing Gallahorn, he would relinquish control of Mars and put a democracy in place, considering before this we only know that he thinks its necessary for Gallahorn to be in power and that he doesn't really give a shit about the corruption. |
| My rating for last season was 9/10. This one was 7/10. Overall, the show is still a solid 8/10 *shouts in Angry Joe tone* BADASS SEAL OF APPROVAL!!! Yeah, as much as how I was extremely disappointed by the previous episodes, the finale was actually very satisfying to me. Both Mikazuki and Akihiro's last stand was pure badassness. I was already expecting them to die with their heroic sacrifice. Seeing both Iok and Nobliss die in their own ways was also fine enough for me. Julietta doesn't deserve to die. Her last statement about Tekaddan somehow make her redeemable for me. However, I'm still skeptical about Rustal's goals in the long run. His actions to make Kudelia becoming a more powerful leader of Martian Union was indeed legit. But like they say, you can't hide your skeletons in the closet forever. |
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-Abyss_Walker- said: it's a fanservice to make the ending not look that bad. "hey at least the bad guy is not so bad after all" that kind of impressionIs it me or is Rustal wanting to implement those policies came straight out of nowhere?.. It just seems out of character that after seizing Gallahorn, he would relinquish control of Mars and put a democracy in place, considering before this we only know that he thinks its necessary for Gallahorn to be in power and that he doesn't really give a shit about the corruption. |
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| finally its finished. ending was predictable (except for ride's part) ever since death flags were raised so fast and enemies having impenetrable plot armor(well for some so that they could be milked for the sake of plot). but i was really disappointed that for the first time a GUNDAM doesn't really make any difference esp since half way of this series. their MS is basically just a normal MS with a gundam skin. well yeah they've killed a lot for fodders here and there but there's really nothing much to it, other than these gundam have some overclock power and only mikazuki can only do it. I guess what they lack in their mechs in this series compensated us with a lot of likeable and some detestable characters. 7/10 for me, the series had a really promising start but it just went downhill in terms of plot and characters being out of their character. im not saying im not liking it because its not my desired ending but the reason is they could've done it better, ever since they showed how they could milk Iok to make the plot move everything became predictable. and its so funny how they try to please some fans by killing Iok, i mean seriously whats the point??? its already too late the dmg has been done |
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| No, just no. The epilogue was quite good, but the first half was not. So Rustal was a good person, I haven't noticed all this time, how ignorant I must have been. |
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| Finally one of Alternate Universe Gundam series where the MC died because fuck Plot Armor. This ending feels like i'm watching the ending of War in the Pocket all over again. |
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-Abyss_Walker- said: Is it me or is Rustal wanting to implement those policies came straight out of nowhere?.. It just seems out of character that after seizing Gallahorn, he would relinquish control of Mars and put a democracy in place, considering before this we only know that he thinks its necessary for Gallahorn to be in power and that he doesn't really give a shit about the corruption. Not sure why members even think Rustal is evil in anyway, at most he is a schemer. And yes he use some shitty forbidden weapon, but thats his own way of ending the problems. Plus We only officially knew Rustal's personality in a few episodes, he just came out to oppose McGillis's ideal together with Tekkadan who is working with McGillis. In our real world logic, Rustal is the guy with vision and McGillis is simply just dreaming. |
valvravetruthApr 2, 2017 6:01 AM
| This episode was such a wild ride!I still have goosebumps. So.... Mika and Akihiro died noble death, Tekkadan died as organisation, but as family they still live. At least it's good. And Mika and Atra son is so cute. I understand that this season wanted to show us that stronger wins, no matter if you have good cause or not. I liked this season, even if was a little worse than first. 8/10 |
DazeFire said: wasnt the best ending but the ending we got was good enough to end the series with glad they decided to have mika dying as him living would have been dumb iok finally got killed and Atra had her kid and her and Kudelia are taking care of him which is nice though one thing i wish that Julietta would have got killed really hate the fact that she thinks she beat Mika but w/e all in all it was a good enough end to end the series with and now Mika and Orga are back together forever now to wait for the next gundam series Why the hatred for Julietta? She never use underhanded tactics against anyone. She just doesn't understand/know what Mika is actually fighting for. Whatsmore she never thought of herself beating Mika at all. The scene where she "defeat" Mika the devil, was just part of a propaganda. |
valvravetruthApr 2, 2017 6:03 AM
| Nobody is born evil, its such conditions which make them so. RIP Mika, Akihiro. And fck IOK!!!! |
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| Iok kujan how does it feel to be dead...damn it was good...Mikazuki died damn it my god the feels and also akihiro..atara was able to get pregnant(the magic of anime) nevertheles Love the series and very satisfied with the ending |
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| I loved this series until the last 8 or 9 episodes. Ever since Lafter died they've had some strange plot choices that I suppose were meant to be realistic takes on the results of constant conflict. That the piece of scum murderer of children Rustal Elon survives without a scratch and gets to get his hand shaken by the princess is upsetting. But not as much as having Ms. "I'll talk non-stop while fighting " Julieta killing our MC and been celebrated for it. That is just plain trolling the viewer. Are you kidding me? What kind of viewing experience do you think people get from this? Yeah, it might make for realistic storyrytelling but is about as pleasurable as having my nosehairs burnt with a blowtorch. -Abyss_Walker- said: Is it me or is Rustal wanting to implement those policies came straight out of nowhere?.. It just seems out of character that after seizing Gallahorn, he would relinquish control of Mars and put a democracy in place, considering before this we only know that he thinks its necessary for Gallahorn to be in power and that he doesn't really give a shit about the corruption. You're absolutely right. I guess someone told Okada that having a child murderer come off so scott-free wouldn't do so they had to show that it was all for a good cause all along. |
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| crushed Iok/10 despite the shortcomings of season 2, this show was still really entertaining. at least it is still one of the better long Gundam shows in years. and i think they can make another series in the same universe. they still haven't showed the remaining Gundams/Demons. i think there's supposedly 72 of them... /gg |
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| We can learn something from this series, which is "Antagonist =/= Villian". An antagonist is not necessarily evil, he merely has opposing actions and thoughts. Best used in the case for Rustal. |
| I had some problems with the plot of S2 so it wasn't as good as S1. Overall still enjoyable. 7/10 and S1 was 8/10 |
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| Its been a long time the death of a character statisfied me so much. Thank god Iok died. Slightly weaker season but a pretty solid ending for what they've been doing. |
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| Well when Rustal and Julietta are decent persons, this anime did a truly bad job at portraying their characters and showing us their view on things clearly enough. |
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| The quality is the same with season 1, but it felt less satisfying probably because the ending left me with mixed feelings. That Rustal Ellion should have died .... |
| A few other things to note: the restored Gundam Bael in the storage vault now has restraints locking its joints and Mace-chan still lives on (as it did in the finale of the previous season). Intriguing symbols. |
RollsRoyce said: valvravetruth said: We can learn something from this series, which is "Antagonist =/= Villian". An antagonist is not necessarily evil, he merely has opposing actions and thoughts. Best used in the case for Rustal. I think a sequel is still possible as I think Rustal got away from a lot of trouble. Ride is the real thing to uncover new plots. Another 10 years onwards, Akatsuki can go revenge for his dad maybe. Fabienne said: Well when Rustal and Julietta are decent persons, this anime did a truly bad job at portraying their characters and showing us their view on things clearly enough. Still believe that what Ride did back there will make Rustal as the true pilot villain in a movie or sort to end it for all. I don't think Akatsuki's mothers or anyone else from the big Tekkadan family would allow him to. |
JizzyHitler said: You're comparing a high official of what essentially the space police that are supposed to uphold order and justice, committing war crimes left and right, orchestrating massacres like in Dorts, starting bloody wars just to tarnish his rival's reputation (SAU-Arbra), shitting on the laws he's supposed to uphold, using illegal weapons twice, making deals with war profiteers to let said profiteer sell his weapons (Nobliss), with a bunch of kids who mostly were forced to kill to survive in the world full of shit because of people like Rustal running it? Even in the kill count, Rustal's schemes killed magnitudes more people than all of Tekkadan combined ever could. Are you even serious...? If you are, then something must be very wrong with you and your morals.why should the main villain reach retribution though, he may of done bad things but so did tekkadan and mcgillis, rustal was a necessary evil to keep stability in the world before he could move to capitalize on his endgame found in this epilogue. The show was gray as shit, probably the most morally gray in the entire franchise but tekkadan and mcgillis arguably would of done more harm to the world with their anarchistic power goal. |
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JizzyHitler said: I loved this ending, its going to divide people no doubt but this is a very ballsy shot at idealism and self sacrifice being portrayed as a greater good and the crushing realities of war that contradict them. Its nihilistic and depressing but I can only applaud this decision more than anything even if I am sure some people are just going to feel the show is weaker because of it. Rustal nor tekkadan were evil, they were both routes to corruption or a negative impact on the world, they have both done messed up things and killed but it was a fight for existences. I do wish things in the finale were handled better, it was kind of rushed and should of been spread out across an entire cour, but I am still gonna give this a 8/10, probably up there are one of my favorite au gundams, it went from a generic row row fight the power action show to something much more critiquing and criticizing the glorification of violence in media with this depressing finale. Couldn't have said it better. I got almost everything I wanted out of this ending. Pretty much reached the potential I thought it had, which is very rare for shows like this. |
| Essentially this series was a gundam version of game of thrones. For game of thrones fans they will enjoy it. So many favorite characters killed off in both seasons. It was a solid season but not as good as season 1. But the epilogue made me feel a little better. The way it ended makes it possible to Make a 3rd season or just end it there. There is still some trash that needs to gotten rid off. But Ioks death made me feel so good. I can give this Gundam season a 8/10. |
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| Well compared to season 1, this season didnt live up the hype, I had fun with season 1, season 2 was just... majority of BS. Cant say worst but its definitely there, and I thought GS Destiny was the worst sequel, this takes the cake haha. |
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| I'm surprised it ended well for almost everyone who survived, Iok is gone thank god, but killing off all of the main protagonists probably wasn't the best decision though. Great ending although Mika's child looking more like Atra is meh. 8.5/10 |
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Fabienne said: Well when Rustal and Julietta are decent persons, this anime did a truly bad job at portraying their characters and showing us their view on things clearly enough. I like this show because it's not beating you over the head with the morality of what's going on. The show isn't excusing Rustal for all of the shady shit he's done - he's pragmatic with his power and politics, and will ultimately go with the flow. McGillis, ironically, achieved the goal of his coup in death by exposing the corrupt hereditary-based rule of Gjallarhorn. I do think Julieta is a decent person, though. This show deals in shades of grey, and stuck to having a very grey ending. There's good and bad on both sides in almost equal measure. The only truly evil prick was Gordon Nobliss, and he got his deserts in the end. That being said, yes, Rustal himself is not what I would consider a Good Guy. He's a typical powerful politician. |
| people are comparin this to game of thrones, a stupid series that nobody will watch if not for cheap nude and sex scene lol |
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Dangerr said: thank you for saying what i wanted to but have to wait till i get home from work to do so.Fabienne said: Well when Rustal and Julietta are decent persons, this anime did a truly bad job at portraying their characters and showing us their view on things clearly enough. I like this show because it's not beating you over the head with the morality of what's going on. The show isn't excusing Rustal for all of the shady shit he's done - he's pragmatic with his power and politics, and will ultimately go with the flow. McGillis, ironically, achieved the goal of his coup in death by exposing the corrupt hereditary-based rule of Gjallarhorn. I do think Julieta is a decent person, though. This show deals in shades of grey, and stuck to having a very grey ending. There's good and bad on both sides in almost equal measure. The only truly evil prick was Gordon Nobliss, and he got his deserts in the end. That being said, yes, Rustal himself is not what I would consider a Good Guy. He's a typical powerful politician. I just want to add that mcgillis is also the whole reason rustal even did most the messed up stuff he did. Mcgillis forced the hand of him to get to this point. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
FackuIkari said: Iok is dead, the final fight was awesome, Iok is dead, Rustal wasn't so much a bad guy after all, Iok is dead and Mika's son is cute as fuck, I say it's a wrap up, I like it. IOK IS FUCKING DEAD! YES! FUCK YES! Rustal was not a BAD GUY??? he used restriced weapon all time and won fight like that , HE killed too many good guy WITH IT. |
| the final episode was absolute DOGSHIT! this is not what i wanted and not what i watched this for. this is the most unsatifying bullshit ending i saw in a long time. 5/10 for this garbage and yes im mad! |
| Damn, that ending was actually decent. Doesn't excuse the ass-pulls, bulll**** and brainfarts of the final few episodes, but it was good with what we had. About Rustal Ellion, he is no more white than Tekkadan and McGillis. He fought for his ideals, and used any means to achieve them. Standard practice. At least he did a decent job with the politics. Kudelia feels as under-utlised as ever, but the plot shifted away from her so... Honestly, I wouldn't know how to use her better either. I feel like for s2, since s1 set the bar up so high, that we were just disappointed. S2 wasn't that bad at all. There were many downs, sure, but damn were there a few ups as well (the mobile armour hype comes to mind). I feel like the series could have easily gone on for much longer, but the writers needed to end it but didn't know how to. As a side, I don't mind the Gaelio x Julietta ship at all. I rather liked Gaelio tbh. And damn Atra matured. |
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