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ChronosXIII said: Wait, so Soi Fon and Toshiro died? Lolololol. Though I guess I can't be expecting permanent death since this is Kubo... Hope Urahara makes things interesting; it's just a one-sided slaughter right now. Oh sweet irony! You are assuming they are dead based on nothing else than their reiatsu disappearing when it has been proven countless of time that in the Bleach universe this does not mean death. Then because of said assumption that is completely your fault, you're blaming the author's writing. Rinse and repeat and you get what happen in every Bleach thread since... forever. You people create an understanding of the universe with the information given by Kubo and then subconsciously fill up the "holes" with assumptions. Then you assume that these assumptions are facts only because so far everything have worked fine the way you thought it was. The problem is that Kubo is filling more and more of these "holes" by adding information in his manga and now it creates contradiction between the information you assumed were right and the information that are actually right. It is easy to say that something is bad because it goes against your assumption but it is hard to back it up with argument since in the end, it was only because of your assumptions. That's why these thread are full of people saying it doesn't make sense without actually pointing to information that contradict each others. Bleach isn't perfect and Kubo's writing got it's share of problem but every time I come into these thread, Kubo get bashed for things that he didn't do. People are bashing Kubo for the wrong reasons and that is the point that hit on my nerves. |
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Shangetsu said: 2) You actually forgot that Shinigami spend years/decade learning how to do basic kido. Such specialized and irregular kido will not be learnt overnight and for 'normal growth' shinigami it might even takes weeks/months to use it to a comfortable level. And you're forgetting that there are other characters that are quite skillful with Kido. Like Hinamori, Tessai, Hachi, Aizen(I know, he is not relevant right now, but you get the idea). It would be good to put them in some strategic positions in SS with that spell in hand. Some of the captains are quite good with it too. Someone mentioned that Unohana had "maxed" all statistics in some guidebook - now it would be good to use the data from it[I hope Kubo got the copy of such guidebook to his own characters]. I bet also Yoruichi(who taught Byakuya) is quite good with it. |
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Puty said: Shangetsu said: 2) You actually forgot that Shinigami spend years/decade learning how to do basic kido. Such specialized and irregular kido will not be learnt overnight and for 'normal growth' shinigami it might even takes weeks/months to use it to a comfortable level. And you're forgetting that there are other characters that are quite skillful with Kido. Like Hinamori, Tessai, Hachi, Aizen(I know, he is not relevant right now, but you get the idea). It would be good to put them in some strategic positions in SS with that spell in hand. Some of the captains are quite good with it too. Someone mentioned that Unohana had "maxed" all statistics in some guidebook - now it would be good to use the data from it[I hope Kubo got the copy of such guidebook to his own characters]. I bet also Yoruichi(who taught Byakuya) is quite good with it. Agreed. And not to mention, when was the last time Kido's being useful? Wasn't it Urahara (an outsider) to capture Aizen years ago. We had discussion how Kubo disregarded this ability especially when needed, in earlier quincy invasion arc. did anyone properly used it when half of the captains lost their bankai. Byakuya is a kido master. Also Captain level shinigami's (except zaraki) should know some high level kidos because it is important at times like this when zanpaktou's are not really useful. |
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Puty said: Shangetsu said: 2) You actually forgot that Shinigami spend years/decade learning how to do basic kido. Such specialized and irregular kido will not be learnt overnight and for 'normal growth' shinigami it might even takes weeks/months to use it to a comfortable level. And you're forgetting that there are other characters that are quite skillful with Kido. Like Hinamori, Tessai, Hachi, Aizen(I know, he is not relevant right now, but you get the idea). It would be good to put them in some strategic positions in SS with that spell in hand. Some of the captains are quite good with it too. Someone mentioned that Unohana had "maxed" all statistics in some guidebook - now it would be good to use the data from it[I hope Kubo got the copy of such guidebook to his own characters]. I bet also Yoruichi(who taught Byakuya) is quite good with it. Because they're good doesn't mean that they can learn it overnight. This isn't a rpg where you simply have to use a skill-book to learn how to use a kido, it's a much longer and tedious process similar to assimilating a martial art technique. It's a technique that girl developed in-between the two quincies attack, there's no way she had the time to teach people about it. It's also not perfect, not optimized and is still in a stage of development. What the shinigami needed wasn't this kido, it was time. They barely recovered from the first attack that the quincies are already here striking again. They are not like Ichigo that went from a novice shinigami to bankai in about a month, they're people that trained decade/hundred of years for the power they have now. Asking them to double that power under a month is asking for the impossible. |
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| @Shangetsu Because they're good doesn't mean that they can learn it overnight. Come on. We've seen Yoruichi learning how to do that energy ball instantly(can exactly remeber what was that exactly, something about safe travel to the SS, guess they didn't have the Soul Tickets at time), we've seen Ichigo learning (not)bankai within days. Tessai and Hachi are Kidou's masters I think they are capable of learning that, this manga is all about quick progress. Add to that Yoruichi, Urahara(I know, unavailable) and some people that are kidou gods but we don't know about it yet. I suspect trying to perfect that jutsu would be more useful than Hitsugaya's swordfight training @_@. And Nanao is kidou genius from now on. Probably that's why... she wasn't seen during Fake Karakura? I'm confused now x). Han-yuu said: We had discussion how Kubo disregarded this ability especially when needed, in earlier quincy invasion arc. did anyone properly used it when half of the captains lost their bankai. Exactly, that's why it was so frustrating not being able to see actual fights at that time. |
| Urahara saves the day again! xD |
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Puty said: @Shangetsu Because they're good doesn't mean that they can learn it overnight. Come on. We've seen Yoruichi learning how to do that energy ball instantly(can exactly remeber what was that exactly, something about safe travel to the SS, guess they didn't have the Soul Tickets at time), we've seen Ichigo learning (not)bankai within days. Tessai and Hachi are Kidou's masters I think they are capable of learning that, this manga is all about quick progress. Add to that Yoruichi, Urahara(I know, unavailable) and some people that are kidou gods but we don't know about it yet. I suspect trying to perfect that jutsu would be more useful than Hitsugaya's swordfight training @_@. And Nanao is kidou genius from now on. Probably that's why... she wasn't seen during Fake Karakura? I'm confused now x). Ichigo is an exception, afair hogyoku have been helping him, he learnt bankai via special training risking... his life(or something else, I don't remember) and so on, so on. Tessai & Hachi aren't in SS, but I may be wrong. |
| Quincy are way too strong it's not even fair. Reminds me of the bount filler arc a bit. They were practically immortal but eventually they killed em because relentless attacks :/ th-that's probably gonna happen. |
| Hitsugya's Rokui Hyouketsujin looks a lot like Ishida's Sprenger. |
| I don't like how that dude fuucking mocked Yamamoto and no one can do shit on that matter. |
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| So Urahara found a way to recover bankai,this should be interesting. |
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| So Kisuke found a way to restore the bankai??! Niceee!!! |
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