Monogatari Series: Second Season
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Grouchio said: Are HorribleSubs any good? I'm literally bouncing off the walls here. Yeah, they're not bad. They're probably some of the fastest subbers, but they don't sub the OP & Ed's at all. Edit: Just so you know, you can check on nyaa for the subs. For pretty much any anime. |
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| I was pretty certain that the crab lingerie would be the main attraction of the evening, and Senjougahara very successfully showcasing Araragi and Kanbaru in a nutshell. So, of what I got, Araragi was not at home, probably didn't come last night at all, but he's a man and can tend to himself (that is, left to the mercy of Fate, w/e it was :) ). Hanekawa met a Kai on her way to school, after meeting Mayoyi (!)  and later Senjougahara. By the end of their conversation, Hanekawa figures out that the fire in the distance is from her house burning. She decides to take shelter in the warehouse, where Meme and Shinobu resided, was found by and convinced to lodge in Senjougahara's own warehouse, take a shower with her (oh, boy - the seiza), and skip school (the bigger the lie, the most believable, ne?). The girls think the White Tiger is somehow involved, but don't not how yet, or so says Hanekawa. Extremely cute Neko spotted in the ED. It was a beautiful episode! ^_^ Glad to see these girls and not the sisters. THANKS! |
| Ne ne, shitagi-chan let's get along since we're both cancer~ |
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| LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. |
mugimugi said: Wait, did they cut out Kanbaru? Those bastards! I believe in the novel Kanbaru appears after Hanekawa goes back to school? asking if araragi is back yet and the text message she got. |
zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" |
| So much Hitagi, I think she's really growing on me this season. Same for Tsubasa. Really interested in, well... everything. I wanted to wait for the BD's to watch this (Come on SHAFT..) but nope, this intrigued me too much. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" Okay I'll bite, what issues did you have with this episode that would warrant a 1/5? And don't worry, I will be sure to keep in mind that you are only stating your opinion not objective fact. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" cuz vvv es da beste anime |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
DawnJ said: Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" cuz vvv es da beste anime Who says it the best anime, but "still didn't like it that much" is not "Hated it", the episode is w/o translation. Sorry, but too rushed a decision in my book. |
| GOD I WAITED FOREVER ON THIS!!!! TTATT i see what u did there, shaft. but anyway.. really awesome job, and congrats on making dat ass and boobs, appreciated it. hope that the storyline and the unique graphic keeps improving for the next eps. |
| pro tip: don't argue with elitist-otaku, especially who worships first gundam and rants about 'current animes are all moe shit'. |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
zellami said: DawnJ said: Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" cuz vvv es da beste anime Who says it the best anime, but "still didn't like it that much" is not "Hated it", the episode is w/o translation. Sorry, but too rushed a decision in my book. Subs are out though bro. |
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| My slideshow is back! Lol, even though I just finished watching everything else a couple of days ago. Liked the episode a lot, especially Senjougahara, who stripped for us for half the episode~ |
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| I didn't think they'd get quite this far in one episode but it doesn't really feel that rushed. I was thinking it would probably end with Senjougahara finding Hanekawa at the cram school. I liked how the scene with the tiger was done. |
JOHJJul 6, 2013 12:47 PM
| They really did get through a chunk of the book this episode but it looked like they were slowing down towards the end of the episode. I hope that they slow down a bit with the rest of this book it really did feel quite fast but i guess they wanted to just get right into it and then slow down? I know they need to cover a load of the books in 24 eps so i guess it makes sense but still =/ I knew shaft never put any background characters in when animating monogatari but i never thought they would remove Hanekawa's parents and the super awkward breakfast scene between them and Hanekawa. I am either out of practice or those inbtween scene text are now harder than ever to catch and seem to be more? Anyway it was a fast episode but a good one i have been waiting for this season and plan to enjoy it. P.S give me Kizumonogatari already damn it that is such a major part of Araragi and Shinobu. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" I'm confused. You dropped Bakemono and Nisemono, watched Nekomono and gave it a 2, so why exactly did you try to pick this up? Honestly, I'm not trying to troll, I'm genuinely curious because this makes absolutely no sense to me. |
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| oh god, the show is back and is as epic as ever! Was waiting for it like... from the moment i watched bakemonogatari. |
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tomtomr92 said: Is Hanekawa gona be the MC of this whole season???? and lol its WEIRD as Fuck to see Senjougahara act like this!?!?!? She is SOOO off character to me >.< Nope, she's just MC for the first arc. |
tomtomr92 said: Koybz said: Do you know how many episodes is the first arc?? also how many Arcs are in this season??tomtomr92 said: Is Hanekawa gona be the MC of this whole season???? and lol its WEIRD as Fuck to see Senjougahara act like this!?!?!? She is SOOO off character to me >.< Nope, she's just MC for the first arc. 6 Arcs and I think this arc is around 5 episodes. |
| I can't say enough good things about this first episode but the highlight was definitely seeing the interactions between hitagi and tsubasa when araragi isn't around. It was also surprising to see hanekawa confess her feelings for araragi even though she's notorious for lying and keeping secrets from others. somehow it seems like she's warming up to hitagi but I get the feeling senjougahara is merely keeping her greatest rival close as close as possible. btw anyone who gave this a 1/5 obviously isn't a fan of the monogatari mythology and should just stop being party poppers for those of us who actually wish to discuss the episode. |
| Shaft has outdone themselves with these head tilts... Intriguing start. I know Nekomonogatari wan't that long ago, but it still feels great to finally be watching this series again. |
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| Man I've been waiting to watch this. |
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VioLink said: Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" Okay I'll bite, what issues did you have with this episode that would warrant a 1/5? And don't worry, I will be sure to keep in mind that you are only stating your opinion not objective fact. Actually after thinking about it more I want to raise my score to something in the range of 2.5/5. I've always struggled with this franchise, to be honest I find most of the story arcs in it to be complete and utter fetish pandering crap, but this was kind of decent like a couple of the arcs from the original series. The characters weren't totally jerking each other off like Nise and Neko and the dialogue largely served some sort of purpose be it to tell us something about the cast and their feelings or to establish the context of the story which is something I haven't seen from this franchise in a long long time. The direction also wasn't quite as busy and impossible to tolerate though it's still largely the same old tricks. The last 5 minutes or so were mostly business as usual but I have to say I'm kind of vaguely surprised to see Senjougahara clearly showing unfiltered affection for a friend or Hanakawa actually clearly showing how she's not the borderline deity that Araragi makes her out to be. Also the prospect of her and Senjougahara actually having to solve their own problems is something I can't recall seeing out of this franchise. It's so weird to see these characters acting vaguely human. I'd swear it has something to do with Araragi not around to build them up as something they aren't and it changes the whole tone and exposure of this episode for me. The quality of the arcs in this franchise seem to vary extremely wildly is my new theory. I'd never call any of it exceptional like some, but when it's like this it can be decent, though that may just be the general mediocrity of this season making me say that. In any case 2.5/5 it is. I'm sure it'll return to it's normal aggravating tendencies and I'll be forced to drop it after this arc, but for now it's not half bad. mugimugi said: ihateeveryone said: Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" I'm confused. You dropped Bakemono and Nisemono, watched Nekomono and gave it a 2, so why exactly did you try to pick this up? Honestly, I'm not trying to troll, I'm genuinely curious because this makes absolutely no sense to me. Don't bother with him, he's just depressed because it has no space mechas and found something popular to shitpost about. As if his rating would be reasonable, watching his list. DawnJ said: pro tip: don't argue with elitist-otaku, especially who worships first gundam and rants about 'current animes are all moe shit'. This. It helps to actually get to know and talk to somebody and learn about their leanings and tastes before you go around tossing labels at them. Honestly I've never really liked this franchise, it's not a good season though so I'm giving it a shot. It was decent for a change and it's sort of a pleasant surprise. I'm not going to call it great or sing it's praises, this franchise has a tremendous hole in terms of impression of it's premise, characters, dialogue and focus to dig itself out of, but if it can keep this up it might prove watchable for a bit at least. The first season was not able to keep this up beyond it's first Hitagi Crab arc and I simply could not tolerate Nise's self-indulgence enough to watch any more than a handful of episode. Nekomonogatari was obnoxious to me and by the end I honestly hated the entire cast and wished they'd offed each other. This does not feel like the same cast even here to start, it's very odd indeed. I have no explanation for why the quality varies so tremendously between arcs of this show other than Nisioisin is an incredibly inconsistent author. Yes I am depressed that there are no space or mecha anime on. It's my bread and butter as an anime fan. I'm patient enough to wait till fall though. |
PeacingOutJul 6, 2013 1:04 PM
tomtomr92 said: and lol its WEIRD as Fuck to see Senjougahara act like this!?!?!? She is SOOO off character to me >.<  She let a bit of her true self slip out because she was genuinely worried about Hanekawa. |
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DawnJ said: But Zeta isn't first Gundam. ;opro tip: don't argue with elitist-otaku, especially who worships first gundam and rants about 'current animes are all moe shit'. |
CabronJul 6, 2013 1:05 PM
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| And there we have it, the most random but godly situation with all dem jump cut, its BACK! now the wait for 2nd episode is on! |
| I think I started sweating profusely when the episode started. I was in a veritable pool by the end of the episode. THIS EPISODE ARE WONDERFUL. AND HANEKAWA IS MY LEAST FAVORITE, BUT....man, does she look cute with bed hair. It's gonna be great year! Looking forward to Mayoi Jiangshi and Nadeko Medusa the most. |
| Awesome episode. So glad this series is back. Now we play the waiting game. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" i took at look at your anime list and you've dropped every other series monogatari and related and yet you thought it was a good idea to pick this one up...it seems to me like you're a wannabe elitist who just wants to complain when other peoples opinions don't coincide with your own. this show is not going to change for you and it's fans aren't going to either. |
| A nice first episode OP and ED sounds great |
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tankoubon-feind said: Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" i took at look at your anime list and you've dropped every other series monogatari and related and yet you thought it was a good idea to pick this one up...it seems to me like you're a wannabe elitist who just wants to complain when other peoples opinions don't coincide with your own. this show is not going to change for you and it's fans aren't going to either. I've already explained this, slow season, giving everything a shot pretty much. Yes I am a little elitist, that doesn't mean I can't at least try to be somewhat fair. It's not exactly every day you see a decent episode of a franchise that has historically rubbed you the wrong way. As long as people can state their opinions clearly and concisely and respect others I honestly have no problem what they actually think, it's their prerogative. |
| I was wondering if shaft will be able to adapt this novel. And they couldn't it seems. It's still a great episode by itself but a bad adaptation. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: VioLink said: Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" Okay I'll bite, what issues did you have with this episode that would warrant a 1/5? And don't worry, I will be sure to keep in mind that you are only stating your opinion not objective fact. Actually after thinking about it more I want to raise my score to something in the range of 2.5/5. I've always struggled with this franchise, to be honest I find most of the story arcs in it to be complete and utter fetish pandering crap, but this was kind of decent like a couple of the arcs from the original series. The characters weren't totally jerking each other off like Nise and Neko and the dialogue largely served some sort of purpose be it to tell us something about the cast and their feelings or to establish the context of the story which is something I haven't seen from this franchise in a long long time. The direction also wasn't quite as busy and impossible to tolerate though it's still largely the same old tricks. The last 5 minutes or so were mostly business as usual but I have to say I'm kind of vaguely surprised to see Senjougahara clearly showing unfiltered affection for a friend or Hanakawa actually clearly showing how she's not the borderline deity that Araragi makes her out to be. Also the prospect of her and Senjougahara actually having to solve their own problems is something I can't recall seeing out of this franchise. It's so weird to see these characters acting vaguely human. I'd swear it has something to do with Araragi not around to build them up as something they aren't and it changes the whole tone and exposure of this episode for me. The quality of the arcs in this franchise seem to vary extremely wildly is my new theory. I'd never call any of it exceptional like some, but when it's like this it can be decent, though that may just be the general mediocrity of this season making me say that. In any case 2.5/5 it is. I'm sure it'll return to it's normal aggravating tendencies and I'll be forced to drop it after this arc, but for now it's not half bad. The thing you seem to have issues with is the Monogatari series as a whole not Nekomonogatari: Shiro episode 1. If somebody else said what you just said about this episode I would think they gave it a 5/5-4.5/5 not 2.5/5. |
VioLinkJul 6, 2013 1:22 PM
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VioLink said: Kaioshin_Sama said: VioLink said: Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" Okay I'll bite, what issues did you have with this episode that would warrant a 1/5? And don't worry, I will be sure to keep in mind that you are only stating your opinion not objective fact. Actually after thinking about it more I want to raise my score to something in the range of 2.5/5. I've always struggled with this franchise, to be honest I find most of the story arcs in it to be complete and utter fetish pandering crap, but this was kind of decent like a couple of the arcs from the original series. The characters weren't totally jerking each other off like Nise and Neko and the dialogue largely served some sort of purpose be it to tell us something about the cast and their feelings or to establish the context of the story which is something I haven't seen from this franchise in a long long time. The direction also wasn't quite as busy and impossible to tolerate though it's still largely the same old tricks. The last 5 minutes or so were mostly business as usual but I have to say I'm kind of vaguely surprised to see Senjougahara clearly showing unfiltered affection for a friend or Hanakawa actually clearly showing how she's not the borderline deity that Araragi makes her out to be. Also the prospect of her and Senjougahara actually having to solve their own problems is something I can't recall seeing out of this franchise. It's so weird to see these characters acting vaguely human. I'd swear it has something to do with Araragi not around to build them up as something they aren't and it changes the whole tone and exposure of this episode for me. The quality of the arcs in this franchise seem to vary extremely wildly is my new theory. I'd never call any of it exceptional like some, but when it's like this it can be decent, though that may just be the general mediocrity of this season making me say that. In any case 2.5/5 it is. I'm sure it'll return to it's normal aggravating tendencies and I'll be forced to drop it after this arc, but for now it's not half bad. The thing you seem to have issues with is the Monogatari series as a whole not Nekomonogatari: Shiro episode 1. If somebody else said what you just said about this episode I would think they gave it a 5/5 not 2.5/5. I'm not most people lol. My average score even for series I like a lot is something like 3 or 4 with my favorite episodes getting the 5 which will usually be maybe 2-3 episode tops out of 2-cour series. Sorry but I'm not going to join some sort of monopoly of voters, it'd be dishonest to myself and others. I regret that I cannot change my vote to a 3/5 rounded up at least now to reflect my re-evaluation of the episode though. |
| SHAFT is taking the headtilts to a whole new level this time! While short haired Senjougahara takes some getting used to, the character interactions and dialogue were great in that strangely awkward style of Nisioin. And the tiger makes for an intimidating villanous presence. And yes, the fanservice was one has come to expect from this series. But I bet that the shower scene will be BD only, LOL. The older the girls, the better the Monogatari series is for me, so Senjougahara and Hanekawa screen time is much appreciated. They have a strange dynamic those 2, liking the same boy, but being able to be open about it and actually discuss it. It's not very often you see that in an anime. I also like the fact that Araragi is not around to be the knight in shining armour. It might be interesting to see them solve the situation by themselves. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: tankoubon-feind said: Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" i took at look at your anime list and you've dropped every other series monogatari and related and yet you thought it was a good idea to pick this one up...it seems to me like you're a wannabe elitist who just wants to complain when other peoples opinions don't coincide with your own. this show is not going to change for you and it's fans aren't going to either. I've already explained this, slow season, giving everything a shot pretty much. Yes I am a little elitist, that doesn't mean I can't at least try to be somewhat fair. It's not exactly every day you see a decent episode of a franchise that has historically rubbed you the wrong way. As long as people can state their opinions clearly and concisely and respect others I honestly have no problem what they actually think, it's their prerogative. That makes about as much sense as a straight guy trying to watch gay porn until he likes it. |
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tankoubon-feind said: Kaioshin_Sama said: tankoubon-feind said: Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" i took at look at your anime list and you've dropped every other series monogatari and related and yet you thought it was a good idea to pick this one up...it seems to me like you're a wannabe elitist who just wants to complain when other peoples opinions don't coincide with your own. this show is not going to change for you and it's fans aren't going to either. I've already explained this, slow season, giving everything a shot pretty much. Yes I am a little elitist, that doesn't mean I can't at least try to be somewhat fair. It's not exactly every day you see a decent episode of a franchise that has historically rubbed you the wrong way. As long as people can state their opinions clearly and concisely and respect others I honestly have no problem what they actually think, it's their prerogative. That makes about as much sense as a straight guy trying to watch gay porn until he likes it. I absolutely refuse to explain this again. You're on your own if you want to figure out my reasoning for watching this first episode so if that comparison works for you then cool, but I think I've explained it as well as I could. If someone wants to talk about something that went on in the episode I'm totally up for it for a little while, but other than that I think we're done here. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: VioLink said: Kaioshin_Sama said: VioLink said: Kaioshin_Sama said: zellami said: LOL at the little shit, rating it with 1. I still didn't like it that much. Care to discuss? I have my reasons beyond being a "little shit" Okay I'll bite, what issues did you have with this episode that would warrant a 1/5? And don't worry, I will be sure to keep in mind that you are only stating your opinion not objective fact. Actually after thinking about it more I want to raise my score to something in the range of 2.5/5. I've always struggled with this franchise, to be honest I find most of the story arcs in it to be complete and utter fetish pandering crap, but this was kind of decent like a couple of the arcs from the original series. The characters weren't totally jerking each other off like Nise and Neko and the dialogue largely served some sort of purpose be it to tell us something about the cast and their feelings or to establish the context of the story which is something I haven't seen from this franchise in a long long time. The direction also wasn't quite as busy and impossible to tolerate though it's still largely the same old tricks. The last 5 minutes or so were mostly business as usual but I have to say I'm kind of vaguely surprised to see Senjougahara clearly showing unfiltered affection for a friend or Hanakawa actually clearly showing how she's not the borderline deity that Araragi makes her out to be. Also the prospect of her and Senjougahara actually having to solve their own problems is something I can't recall seeing out of this franchise. It's so weird to see these characters acting vaguely human. I'd swear it has something to do with Araragi not around to build them up as something they aren't and it changes the whole tone and exposure of this episode for me. The quality of the arcs in this franchise seem to vary extremely wildly is my new theory. I'd never call any of it exceptional like some, but when it's like this it can be decent, though that may just be the general mediocrity of this season making me say that. In any case 2.5/5 it is. I'm sure it'll return to it's normal aggravating tendencies and I'll be forced to drop it after this arc, but for now it's not half bad. The thing you seem to have issues with is the Monogatari series as a whole not Nekomonogatari: Shiro episode 1. If somebody else said what you just said about this episode I would think they gave it a 5/5 not 2.5/5. I'm not most people lol. My average score even for series I like a lot is something like 3 or 4 with my favorite episodes getting the 5 which will usually be maybe 2-3 episode tops out of 2-cour series. Sorry but I'm not going to join some sort of monopoly of voters, it'd be dishonest to myself and others. I regret that I cannot change my vote to a 3/5 rounded up at least now to reflect my re-evaluation of the episode though. Well alrighty then, 3 is much more understandable than a 1. I feel we have made some progress here! |
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| people who say make me laugh Koybz said: It's back and it's better than ever. Just seeing the monogatari series again is enough to make me happy but yeah, this was episode was great. The tiger looks awesome btw. The OP's not bad. people who say monogatari is better make me laugh |
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VioLink said: Well alrighty then, 3 is much more understandable than a 1. I feel we have made some progress here. Indeed. You're about the only one I've talked to here that I can say the same for as well. At least you seem to get where I'm coming from. |
| Dat sex bed hair. Edit: Did any of you guys notice the Lupin reference? |
CabronJul 6, 2013 1:45 PM
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| It's kind of difficult to get used to Senjouhara's short hair but she still looks good. But wow I'm quite impressed; I read Nekomonogatari White again about 2 weeks ago and the pace of the anime is incredibly fast and skips some parts that I think are important... It may take only 3 or 4 episodes for this arc to finish and continue with Mayoi-chan (:3). Still the adaptation, just like with the other season is so good! The animation and the voices :D *drools happily* And the opening is just so cute with the little cats dancing x3. Also what I liked the most was how the tiger was shown... That's one hell of a tiger! It looks so awesome! I think it is better than how I imagined it while reading it (except for the glowing oreange-red eyes). Still Shaft made an awesome job just like with the others... and they still show the sexy parts as sexy as a reader imagined them xD. Good job Shaft! I hope you continue this arc good because it is quite interesting ^_^. |
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