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Aug 17, 2012 12:39 PM
#51
1) J.C Staff sucks at most adaptations(that aren't directed by Nagai). They ruined Zero no Tsukaima and Shana, which are much easier to adapt than VN's, and they ruined Tsukihime(which, granted, was a long time ago but it deserves a mention) and most recently Arcana Famiglia. 2) LB! is much harder to adapt than Clannad, which even KyoAni, a company experienced on adaptating Key works, had trouble with. So yea, J.C Staff isn't a company one can put faith in immediately unless proven wrong. 3) I'm happy and I hope she delivers a healthy baby, but it's irresponsible of the company just knowing this now, specially since the anime is coming on October. 4)KyoAni isn't doing LB! because they are very stupid. As far I as am concerned, they would make tons of money with this adaptation. They haven't accepted it because they don't want to, it's got nothing to do with being busy. There's no guarantee this is going to suck or not of course, but there are plenty if reasons to be worried. |
leokikoAug 17, 2012 12:43 PM
Aug 17, 2012 12:40 PM
#52
jmal said: skapandi said: But I guess some people will just never be satisfied with it since it's not kyoani(pretty bad taste of them to animate hyouka, a snore fest, and not this, by the way) 1) Hyouka is amazing. 2) I'm sick of people drawing these asinine conclusions that "KyoAni isn't doing Little Busters! because of show 'x'". They were approached about Little Busters! years ago. Claiming it's the "fault" of a 2012 anime that they didn't animate something Key asked them to do in like 2009-2010 is utterly ridiculous. You do realize you try to defend everything in virtually every news thread, right? Or at least every thread I bother to read. White Knighting or blind optimism is no better than the usual pessimism of these forums. |
Aug 17, 2012 12:41 PM
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RyanSaotome said: I know you like to stay positive, but you really aren't worried at all? Its got the Kill Me Baby director, its got a studio that can't animate worth crap and has a terrible reputation with VN adaptions, its got seiyuu changes everywhere, the designs look like crap and the trailer already shows they will rush Refrain into the original series. There really isn't much to get "hyped" about here. I fully expect this to be a major trainwreck with so much wasted potential. I REALLY hope I'm wrong, and I'm proven wrong, but I am NOT getting my hopes up for something that has very little chance of actually being good. The trailer doesn't prove anything regarding this. The opening sequence to Clannad had After Story scenes in it, yet After Story still had its own season. |
Aug 17, 2012 12:45 PM
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Killuan said: jmal said: skapandi said: But I guess some people will just never be satisfied with it since it's not kyoani(pretty bad taste of them to animate hyouka, a snore fest, and not this, by the way) 1) Hyouka is amazing. 2) I'm sick of people drawing these asinine conclusions that "KyoAni isn't doing Little Busters! because of show 'x'". They were approached about Little Busters! years ago. Claiming it's the "fault" of a 2012 anime that they didn't animate something Key asked them to do in like 2009-2010 is utterly ridiculous. You do realize you try to defend everything in virtually every news thread, right? Or at least every thread I bother to read. White Knighting or blind optimism is no better than the usual pessimism of these forums. Well, this topic is definitely one worth defending. Considering the heated debate that happens when it comes to the Little Busters! anime adaption. |
Aug 17, 2012 12:45 PM
#55
That's unfortunate. She at least had more experience than the new girl. But a baby is definitely more important than one role. RyanSaotome said: Hope for the best, assume the worst.jmal said: I know you like to stay positive, but you really aren't worried at all? Its got the Kill Me Baby director, its got a studio that can't animate worth crap and has a terrible reputation with VN adaptions, its got seiyuu changes everywhere, the designs look like crap and the trailer already shows they will rush Rewrite into the original series. There really isn't much to get "hyped" about here. I fully expect this to be a major trainwreck with so much wasted potential. I REALLY hope I'm wrong, and I'm proven wrong, but I am NOT getting my hopes up for something that has very little chance of actually being good.McRib said: AND IT GETS WORSE God, this is going to be the biggest trainwreck of the year. - Many adaptations change multiple, even all of their seiyuu. - This one retains everyone it can, with the exception of a dual-role seiyuu having the job split between two, and y'know, a pregnant woman who needs to put her child first. - People act like it's the end of the world anyway. You people. All of you. What the fuck. Just what the fuck. -KamioRika- said: The Clannad opening sequence had a bit of foreshadowing for After Story, so I'm really hoping that's the same case here.And how exactly does the trailer show that they will rush Refrain into one season? Because there were Refrain scenes in it? We don't have a specific episode count yet, but Key has already stated that the series will be "significantly long". I'm 99.9% positive that the trailer was just an animated version of the OP, used to show off the animation and character designs. Pretty sure there wasn't any actual episode animation in it. So no, the trailer does not prove that they will squash Refrain into one season. |
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Aug 17, 2012 12:56 PM
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noyoureinsane said: Killuan said: jmal said: skapandi said: But I guess some people will just never be satisfied with it since it's not kyoani(pretty bad taste of them to animate hyouka, a snore fest, and not this, by the way) 1) Hyouka is amazing. 2) I'm sick of people drawing these asinine conclusions that "KyoAni isn't doing Little Busters! because of show 'x'". They were approached about Little Busters! years ago. Claiming it's the "fault" of a 2012 anime that they didn't animate something Key asked them to do in like 2009-2010 is utterly ridiculous. You do realize you try to defend everything in virtually every news thread, right? Or at least every thread I bother to read. White Knighting or blind optimism is no better than the usual pessimism of these forums. Well, this topic is definitely one worth defending. Considering the heated debate that happens when it comes to the Little Busters! anime adaption. All comments (in news threads) are just opinions or expectations. He's not changing any ones mind by disagreeing with each and every negative post. At least wait until it airs to defend it, as it may be as bad as the pessimists assume, or it may end up being good. Either way, even after release opinions will differ. Debates are all fine and good, but I see this in virtually every thread. And that's not to say this thread is what broke the Camel's back, but it's just a trend I've been seeing for a long time... As negative as some posters are, I typically see them post and then disappear from the thread. If they haven't, then they're commenting back to a rebuttal. And it keeps them in this thread. |
KilluanAug 17, 2012 1:02 PM
Aug 17, 2012 1:07 PM
#57
Guys, take it easy. It's Mio. Not Kud or Rin. The other VA changes make sense as well. Getting tired of the "omg J.C Staff it will be terrible!!" mentality. I'm not going to state that I'm not worried about the LB anime since making good VN adaptions can be difficult, but dragging Tsukihime into this is ridiculous for several reasons. Personally I liked Toradora/Index/Railgun, so hearing that we have a different director than those is a bit sad, but I still have hope. I can't really say whether J.C Staff is that terrible at adapting or not since while I've watched a lot of their adaptions and didn't like them very much (Ano Natsu, Shana, ZnT, Arcana to name a few), but I have no clue of whether I would've liked the source material anyway. I liked the Index source material and liked the adaption, so they do have cases where I'm satisfied with their adaptions. As I said before, the challenge lies in successfully adapting it from the VN format to an anime. Little Busters doesn't seem terribly hard to adapt, but not easy either, though the fact that the setting allows "looping"/"world resets" As for "KyoAni would've made it so much better", well, they got their chance at adapting LB and said no. I'm a bit sad because of that since I find Hyouka to be terribly boring (albeit very beautifully animated), but that's the way it is. No need to blame J.C Staff for that (and the Hyouka fans get happy). |
Aug 17, 2012 1:36 PM
#58
Dalek-baka said: Indeed it's downfall of the series. It's J.C. Staff fault that she got pregnant and values child health more than some cartoon :D some people are just magical <3 You know, it really is silly to say that it's the company's fault that she ended up pregnant and is going to have a baby soo. This sort of thing just happens unexpectedly, nobody knew she was going to have a baby. It is unlikey to expect/assume the worst predicament the moment it started hatching inside its egg. You have to accept the circumstances whether you like them or not. Also you shouldn't can't force a woman to continue working while being "pregnant" at the same time as they may not do a lot of active work if they end up becoming very ill. Noted by some people in this news discussion above; A woman who becomes pregnant must always put their child first whether their job is a seiyuu, teacher, nurse, etc. |
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Aug 17, 2012 2:15 PM
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jmal said: leokiko said: Killuan said: You do realize you try to defend everything in virtually every news thread, right? I'd have at least 50 times as many posts if that were true, and I don't even read ~2/3rds of news threads. If you have a legitimate, substantive correction to something I said, let me know. That's all I care about. If correcting an opinion were possible, I would. I do, however, have a multitude of things I disagree with you on. But I'm not one to argue opinions. And you dismissed the second part of that sentence. I generally only check the more popular news threads, so what I said still pans out. I see you in almost every news thread I frequent. And it's always the same thing. |
Aug 17, 2012 2:23 PM
#60
I don't care about Mio at all - I'd just assume they skip her route completely LOL. But, I'm sure the replacement will be a decent seiyuu who won't make our ears bleed or anything XD. J.C Staff HAS done some good anime (like Toradora!) so I have faith! Not to mention the character designs are adorable >w> |
Aug 17, 2012 2:32 PM
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Aug 17, 2012 2:42 PM
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Aug 17, 2012 2:45 PM
#63
I dunno, to me its just shocking that one of the biggest VNS of the last 5 years, from a company that KyoAni supposedly has a good relationship with has gone unanimated. There has to be something fishy there going on. Maybe one of the parties asked for too much money or offered too little, or Kyo Ani got offered some really nice deal for Nichijou or Hyouka that Key couldn't match, or something. But theres no logical reason KyoAni would not be doing Little Busters after they did an amazing job with both Kanon and Clannad. |
Aug 17, 2012 3:13 PM
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jmal said: leokiko said: 4)KyoAni isn't doing LB! because they are very stupid. As far I as am concerned, they would make tons of money with this adaptation. They haven't accepted it because they don't want to, it's got nothing to do with being busy. To be fair, what were they getting heavily into when Key was pitching it? K-ON!, by far their most successful and profitable title ever, far bigger than LB! ever would have been (their previous Key titles sold very well, but much less). That's not to say it's "because of" K-ON! that they didn't do LB!, but if you want to discuss it in terms of "lost sales potential", the coparison should be made. You could say they didn't do it because they didn't want to, after a fashion though, yes. At the very least if people look at it that way they'll stop yelling at Key for "not picking KyoAni", which isn't fair. Killuan said: You do realize you try to defend everything in virtually every news thread, right? I'd have at least 50 times as many posts if that were true, and I don't even read ~2/3rds of news threads. If you have a legitimate, substantive correction to something I said, let me know. That's all I care about. maxie said: I've watched a lot of their adaptions and didn't like them very much (Ano Natsu, Shana, ZnT, Arcana to name a few), but I have no clue of whether I would've liked the source material anyway. AnoNatsu was anime original. My bad,I just saw that there was a manga for it and assumed it came before the anime. Good point about K-ON! btw. |
Aug 17, 2012 3:20 PM
#66
Ahh thats bad news and good news at the same time lol |
Aug 17, 2012 4:11 PM
#67
Hope she has a good delivery. It's a shame they can't keep the original VA, but this definitely has priority. |
Aug 17, 2012 5:24 PM
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Aug 17, 2012 5:57 PM
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Aug 17, 2012 6:23 PM
#71
Oh well not like it has aired yet would of sucked if it was in the middle of show airing |
Aug 17, 2012 6:42 PM
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Aug 17, 2012 6:42 PM
#73
No one cares about little busters animu. We care that this might effect her voicing in a dozen hentai titles. |
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Aug 17, 2012 7:27 PM
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mitch3315 said: I blame J.C. Staff for getting her pregnant. +1 |
Aug 17, 2012 7:28 PM
#75
>80+ posts in 12 hours >Most of them are DURR HURR IT'S GOING TO BE A TRAINWRECK BEFORE IT EVEN AIRED >Few of them are JUDGE THE ANIME WHEN IT AIRS, THEN CALL IT A TRAINWRECK >The topic is only about a single change in the cast due to pregnancy of a single VA >People use this topic to vent their frustration on why it's J.C. Staff and NOT MY FAVORITE STUDIO ADAPTING IT, BAWWWWWWW If it's going to be the best anime ever, don't come back crying to me. If it's going to be bad, you can just read the VN (it's translated) and get the full story from it. KyoAni would have never picked it up (Maybe only when they'll remake it in 2016), and I thank J.C. Staff for at least making an adaptation when nobody else wanted to pick it up. It was 5 long years wait for an adaptation, better than nothing. |
Aug 17, 2012 7:39 PM
#76
nextday said: Why would anyone actually be looking forward to this? Ever since JC Staff was announced the news has only gotten worse and worse. Who cares if it's JC STAFF, lolol no one is being optimistic at all.. all the negative things everyone is talking about right now, what if it were all the opposite? |
MagicFlierAug 19, 2012 12:44 AM
Aug 17, 2012 7:59 PM
#77
Health is important. To me, people's health comes first before some anime. Best of luck to Kawaragi-san and her baby. @most people Awkward moment we seeing people express a lot of negative things towards J.C staff when I enjoyed a good number of their work. lol I am completely oblivious to Little Buster's background, so this change does not affect me really. I will still watch it to see why the show is getting so much attention. |
Aug 17, 2012 8:06 PM
#78
I'm definitely coming back to this thread when the show aired, and say it out loud straight to those who praise the studio like it's somekind of super pro. It ain't going to be a nice show lads.At least, not the way we wanted it to be. |
Aug 17, 2012 9:22 PM
#79
oh well another bad news but it can't be help again |
Aug 17, 2012 9:41 PM
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leokiko said: 1) J.C Staff sucks at most adaptations(that aren't directed by Nagai). They ruined Zero no Tsukaima and Shana, which are much easier to adapt than VN's, and they ruined Tsukihime(which, granted, was a long time ago but it deserves a mention) and most recently Arcana Famiglia. I found Shana to be quite good myself. And maybe it's because I don't have a keen eye for detail that I missed all the animation flaws, but I didn't really see much to go apeshit about. ZnT was never a masterpiece, but I still found it enjoyable. Arcana Famigila looks good, but it shows signs that it doesn't really have a high budget, based on the limited animation and slow pace. Still, I do think that if they have a higher budget (which LB will undoubtedly have), they can make it look good. 2) LB! is much harder to adapt than Clannad, which even KyoAni, a company experienced on adaptating Key works, had trouble with. So yea, J.C Staff isn't a company one can put faith in immediately unless proven wrong. Key put their faith in J.C. Staff, despite the latter's reputation concerning VN adaptations, so I think you should do the same. I do believe the staff voiced your concerns, but followed it with a "we'll make sure they'll do it right" comment, implying that they'll oversee the process closely, as opposed to KyoAni, who could do it on their own. In any case, I think you'd do better to judge the show when it's (done) airing, and not when you haven't seen the finished product. 3) I'm happy and I hope she delivers a healthy baby, but it's irresponsible of the company just knowing this now, specially since the anime is coming on October. The 'company' (I assume you mean the studio) has nothing to do with this. She only announced her pregnancy this very week, so they were forced to replace her. If she didn't get pregnant, she would've stayed on board. If you want to blame someone for this new cast change, blame her (or maybe even the lucky fellow who gets to be the father of her baby). 4)KyoAni isn't doing LB! because they are very stupid. As far I as am concerned, they would make tons of money with this adaptation. They haven't accepted it because they don't want to, it's got nothing to do with being busy. How do you know? Do you have connections at KyoAni? Do you know any of their employees, or even their managers? have you spoken to any of them? No? Then accept what KyoAni says and deal with it. And even if it were true what you said, it's not like they have to go with Key's invitation. They have the right to say 'no', just like anyone else. Whether that's a smart move or not remains to be seen. There's no guarantee this is going to suck or not of course, but there are plenty if reasons to be worried. Yet I (and many others) find those reasons largely unfounded, because they're not based on footage of this show, but on earlier works that were made under vastly different conditions. Seriously, if you think it's going to suck tat much, don't watch it. But if it becomes a smashing success, don't come crying to me. |
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Aug 17, 2012 10:01 PM
#81
mitch3315 said: I blame J.C. Staff for getting her pregnant. I hope she has a son so she can name him JC |
Aug 17, 2012 10:17 PM
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AO968 said: It's an assumption although a very valid one. Key/Visual Arts approached Kyoto Animation several times, according to VA's president and several other sources, and they were refused. This happenned during the course of a few years so there were several opportunities where they could have scheduled the show if they were busy yet still interested. Visual Arts was baically giving them first dibs and pretty much kept the offer open for years. If someone refuses an offer over and over and over, the normal assumption is that they don't particularly care for the product.How do you know? Do you have connections at KyoAni? Do you know any of their employees, or even their managers? have you spoken to any of them? No? Then accept what KyoAni says and deal with it. |
Aug 17, 2012 10:21 PM
#83
Either way i don't think we should just assume that it'll be horrible before we actually watch the anime right? Lets actually watch it before we decide whether it's good or not |
Aug 17, 2012 10:43 PM
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Leon-Gun said: Can you blame them? LB came out in 2007. KyoAni were still doing Clannad at that time. Both Clannad and AS took 4 seasons to complete. Before that, they did Kanon and Air. Don't you think KyoAni would have been tired of doing Key projects after all that? AO968 said: It's an assumption although a very valid one. Key/Visual Arts approached Kyoto Animation several times, according to VA's president and several other sources, and they were refused. This happenned during the course of a few years so there were several opportunities where they could have scheduled the show if they were busy yet still interested. Visual Arts was baically giving them first dibs and pretty much kept the offer open for years. If someone refuses an offer over and over and over, the normal assumption is that they don't particularly care for the product.How do you know? Do you have connections at KyoAni? Do you know any of their employees, or even their managers? have you spoken to any of them? No? Then accept what KyoAni says and deal with it. I'd think KyoAni wanted to branch out a bit after Clannad and do different titles considering they only release 2 shows per year ( Minus the years during Clannad's airing which looks like they put most of their staff on ) Think about it. While Clannad was airing, they didn't release any other show during that time ( Oct 2007 - March 2009 ). If KyoAni did LB which seems to be as long as clannad, we wouldn't have gotten K-ON which has made more money than all of their Key adaptations combined. Heck, we probably wouldn't have seen Disappearance either. From a financial/business point of view, not doing LB was a wise move by KyoAni considering the limited amount of shows they release. Doing LB would have taken all their staff just like Clannad, so KyoAni likely didn't want to do that for awhile until they do different shows. Key just didn't want to wait any longer, and KyoAni didn't want to be stuck doing 1 show for 1.5 years until they were ready. That's my take. Also, there's always Rewrite ;p |
YveseAug 17, 2012 11:09 PM
Aug 17, 2012 11:45 PM
#85
^No I can't blame them, it made sense in terms of business. They wanted to move away from Drama to comedy and branch out. I just hate this back and forth defending or in denial of what was obviously a concious decision on their part. They wanted no part on VN adaptations because it didn't fit their vision for the future years. It's not about being "busy" or anything, they just had no interest. Of course they don't want to alienate potential costumers so an excuse has to be given, but in the end, it's business. That's why I doubt KyoAni will remake it (unless they have a major flop and they are pressed for cash which is doubtful at this time, they have more than enough fallback series to depend on) so everyone should just admit this is what we will get, like it or not. |
Aug 18, 2012 1:20 AM
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It keeps getting worse...well, I guess I can finally make up my mind on skipping this if anything. Hope the baby will be healthy! |
Aug 18, 2012 2:06 AM
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AO968 said: leokiko said: 1) J.C Staff sucks at most adaptations(that aren't directed by Nagai). They ruined Zero no Tsukaima and Shana, which are much easier to adapt than VN's, and they ruined Tsukihime(which, granted, was a long time ago but it deserves a mention) and most recently Arcana Famiglia. I found Shana to be quite good myself. And maybe it's because I don't have a keen eye for detail that I missed all the animation flaws, but I didn't really see much to go apeshit about. ZnT was never a masterpiece, but I still found it enjoyable. Arcana Famigila looks good, but it shows signs that it doesn't really have a high budget, based on the limited animation and slow pace. Still, I do think that if they have a higher budget (which LB will undoubtedly have), they can make it look good. 2) LB! is much harder to adapt than Clannad, which even KyoAni, a company experienced on adaptating Key works, had trouble with. So yea, J.C Staff isn't a company one can put faith in immediately unless proven wrong. Key put their faith in J.C. Staff, despite the latter's reputation concerning VN adaptations, so I think you should do the same. I do believe the staff voiced your concerns, but followed it with a "we'll make sure they'll do it right" comment, implying that they'll oversee the process closely, as opposed to KyoAni, who could do it on their own. In any case, I think you'd do better to judge the show when it's (done) airing, and not when you haven't seen the finished product. 3) I'm happy and I hope she delivers a healthy baby, but it's irresponsible of the company just knowing this now, specially since the anime is coming on October. The 'company' (I assume you mean the studio) has nothing to do with this. She only announced her pregnancy this very week, so they were forced to replace her. If she didn't get pregnant, she would've stayed on board. If you want to blame someone for this new cast change, blame her (or maybe even the lucky fellow who gets to be the father of her baby). 4)KyoAni isn't doing LB! because they are very stupid. As far I as am concerned, they would make tons of money with this adaptation. They haven't accepted it because they don't want to, it's got nothing to do with being busy. How do you know? Do you have connections at KyoAni? Do you know any of their employees, or even their managers? have you spoken to any of them? No? Then accept what KyoAni says and deal with it. And even if it were true what you said, it's not like they have to go with Key's invitation. They have the right to say 'no', just like anyone else. Whether that's a smart move or not remains to be seen. There's no guarantee this is going to suck or not of course, but there are plenty if reasons to be worried. Yet I (and many others) find those reasons largely unfounded, because they're not based on footage of this show, but on earlier works that were made under vastly different conditions. Seriously, if you think it's going to suck tat much, don't watch it. But if it becomes a smashing success, don't come crying to me. 1) That's subjective. ZnT's LN was great, but due to J.C's major changes, it turned into shit. Same for Shana II, which turned Shana III into a mess. They enjoy driving their franchises into the ground, apparently. At least Index/Railgun works. 2) Aren't you doing the same I'm doing(supposedly)? I'm not putting faith on Key or J.C Staff until I see the anime. I will maintain my expectations low. Plus, Maeda Jun already said on twitter that he will barely be involved with the anime, that's another bad news right there. 3) My mistake there, sorry. 4) Declining one of the most anticipated VN adaptations that fans were clearly wanting them to do ISN'T A SMART MOVE. By any stetch of imagination. 5)Good for you(and many others), but J.C Staff hasn't produced an decent anime for me without Nagai so far, and the staff isn't really promising, so for me those reasons are enough. Also, really funny how you assume I'm writing this anime off already. I have low expectations, sure, but I will certanily watch it. Please, J.C Staff, prove me wrong. Nothing would make me happier than that. @sorry about the weird format of my post, kinda tired and the quoting here on MAL confuses me =p |
leokikoAug 18, 2012 2:12 AM
Aug 18, 2012 8:11 AM
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leokiko said: I know you were quoting someone else, but read my post above.4) Declining one of the most anticipated VN adaptations that fans were clearly wanting them to do ISN'T A SMART MOVE. By any stetch of imagination. Leon-Gun said: Agreed.^No I can't blame them, it made sense in terms of business. They wanted to move away from Drama to comedy and branch out. I just hate this back and forth defending or in denial of what was obviously a concious decision on their part. They wanted no part on VN adaptations because it didn't fit their vision for the future years. It's not about being "busy" or anything, they just had no interest. Of course they don't want to alienate potential costumers so an excuse has to be given, but in the end, it's business. That's why I doubt KyoAni will remake it (unless they have a major flop and they are pressed for cash which is doubtful at this time, they have more than enough fallback series to depend on) so everyone should just admit this is what we will get, like it or not. |
Aug 18, 2012 8:12 AM
#90
HAH! Another J.C. Project that failed perfectly. It's not like they didn't have 8 months to write the script and record her lines. Pregnancies last fucking months they could've planned ahead. I've said it before and I'll say it again: This will terribly fail. Like all things this studio produces lately. Mark my words. I'm only saying this to annoy you guys. And after the last episode I'll be here to quote my posts only to prove: I was right. Yui Horie as Riki... oh boy... okay. But now this... Well fucking done J.C. Staff. You can't even hire people properly. |
Aug 18, 2012 8:22 AM
#91
The only thing i know about LB is that i look forward to it, so this change doesn't affect the whole series for me, as it does for some of you. I couldn't care less. She is pregnant, good luck! |
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Aug 18, 2012 8:29 AM
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Nunnanation31 said: RyanSaotome said: I know you like to stay positive, but you really aren't worried at all? Its got the Kill Me Baby director, its got a studio that can't animate worth crap and has a terrible reputation with VN adaptions, its got seiyuu changes everywhere, the designs look like crap and the trailer already shows they will rush Refrain into the original series. There really isn't much to get "hyped" about here. I fully expect this to be a major trainwreck with so much wasted potential. I REALLY hope I'm wrong, and I'm proven wrong, but I am NOT getting my hopes up for something that has very little chance of actually being good. The trailer doesn't prove anything regarding this. The opening sequence to Clannad had After Story scenes in it, yet After Story still had its own season. Have you ever heard of chekhov's gun before, perhaps? No? Then google it. mitch3315 said: I blame J.C. Staff for getting her pregnant. This. ↑ |
Aug 18, 2012 10:47 AM
#93
jmal said: skapandi said: But I guess some people will just never be satisfied with it since it's not kyoani(pretty bad taste of them to animate hyouka, a snore fest, and not this, by the way) 1) Hyouka is amazing. 2) I'm sick of people drawing these asinine conclusions that "KyoAni isn't doing Little Busters! because of show 'x'". They were approached about Little Busters! years ago. Claiming it's the "fault" of a 2012 anime that they didn't animate something Key asked them to do in like 2009-2010 is utterly ridiculous. Hyouka, amazing?Only the animation, lol.I'd say it's okay at best-- it's been pretty boring, especially lately.But whatever, nothing I say'll change your opinion so On the second point, you're right.That sounds even more annoying though. |
Aug 18, 2012 11:36 AM
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Radzeer said: The Voice Acress JUST made this public and I doubt she'd tell them until they contacted her.And you obviously have no idea how anime made for TV works. This isn't an OVA or a Feauture Movie (and even those are recorded in a short period of time with the animation and such taking the largest portion of the process).HAH! Another J.C. Project that failed perfectly. It's not like they didn't have 8 months to write the script and record her lines. Pregnancies last fucking months they could've planned ahead. I've said it before and I'll say it again: This will terribly fail. Like all things this studio produces lately. Mark my words. I'm only saying this to annoy you guys. And after the last episode I'll be here to quote my posts only to prove: I was right. Yui Horie as Riki... oh boy... okay. But now this... Well fucking done J.C. Staff. You can't even hire people properly. |
Aug 18, 2012 11:42 AM
#95
Could we lock this thread already? Same discussion all over again. |
Aug 18, 2012 1:48 PM
#96
skapandi said: jmal said: skapandi said: But I guess some people will just never be satisfied with it since it's not kyoani(pretty bad taste of them to animate hyouka, a snore fest, and not this, by the way) 1) Hyouka is amazing. 2) I'm sick of people drawing these asinine conclusions that "KyoAni isn't doing Little Busters! because of show 'x'". They were approached about Little Busters! years ago. Claiming it's the "fault" of a 2012 anime that they didn't animate something Key asked them to do in like 2009-2010 is utterly ridiculous. Hyouka, amazing?Only the animation, lol.I'd say it's okay at best-- it's been pretty boring, especially lately.But whatever, nothing I say'll change your opinion so On the second point, you're right.That sounds even more annoying though. No. Hyouka is amazing. It has it all: Great mystery, character development and awesome animation. If you have been following it and watched the conclusing of the recent arc, you will know that it had a theme which was presented for every character and explored through the main mystery. KyoAni did that masterfully. Plus, they have mastered character acting in anime already. See the way Satoshi express himself to Oreki on the latest episodes. Which is why I'm sad they aren't doing LB!, they are experienced on adaptating Key works and have proven they can actually improve on the main work. When J.C Staff decides to stick to the original, they fail (see: Index, which popularity came from its LN). |
leokikoAug 18, 2012 1:53 PM
Aug 18, 2012 5:46 PM
#97
Awww it's a pity. I really like Mio's voice in the vn. It's part of the reason why I like her so much. Hope the new seiyuu doesn't sound too different from the original. All the best to her and her baby. :D |
Aug 18, 2012 10:33 PM
#99
-Yumaol- said: I believe in JC Staff. =) Here too. It's not their fault that there was a cast change. Okay. She won't be the VA. So what? Just because of this, the anime will suck? What if the choose someone who might suit the character even better? Perhaps someone new who might get a lot more attention and be featured on many more successful series? Just... Be open minded about it. The anime didn't even start yet, for Heaven's sake! And quite frankly... I think you guys are lucky that JC Staff is doing this anime. Because, even with adaptations, they actually follow the source material. Right, sometimes their adaptation is not the best.... But all the JC Staff shows I watched so far were very enjoyable. Now, as a Hayate no Gotoku fan, I've just experienced the "disappointment" of NOT having JC Staff doing the 3rd season. Then, after come rumours that the series won't follow the source material AT ALL... What else can I say? Long Story short, JC Staff had left everything prepared to start Season 3 from where it should and I believe they certainly would. Instead, we (probably) will have some spin-off kind of drabbling from a different studio. Chances are that it will not even contribute to the original plot at all. Even so, I'm not going all over the place ditching Manglobe (I was angry before, but not at that extent) and I'm still eagerly waiting to watch the new anime with hopes that it will be good. And here, we have a highly anticipated anime being made by JC Staff. It's not even a second or third season. It's the very first. I can NOT see how this possibly could actually go wrong. You will have the plot you all wanted, just maybe with a few adaptation. But... well... That's the anime world. We are all used to it. It could be A LOT worse. So, what I'm saying is (I'll be a bit blunt, so sorry =\) Please... calm down, enjoy the show and just then start judging it. |
JPblueserAug 18, 2012 10:47 PM
Aug 19, 2012 1:14 AM
#100
-Yumaol- said: I believe in JC Staff. =) JC Staff's success with this project will lead them into a brighter future. ALL HAIL JC STAFF! |
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