namkeenchoot said: Scordolo said: No I don't understand why is it necessary for you AOT fans to defend the show unconditionally. You started off with "you don't know anything huh" if that isn't being aggressive then idk what is. This discussion isn't even about AOT I just used it as an example I used NGE also as an example later on but you don't see NGE fans commenting now do you? Hell I didn't even specify which part of AOT I was referring to I just named the show in general yet you come in here trying to immediately prove how you are smarter than the others because you like AOT a complicated and convoluted piece of literature for intellectuals such as yourself. Also I don't even particularly like Naruto or demon Slayer but you claiming that AOT is a smarter show is quite hilarious to me.I wasn't even aggressive in my previous post so why being so aggressive? Just chill. I'm not saying Demon slayer or Naruto are bad. I love them actually. I'm just saying they spoonfeed lots of unnesecarry information unlike Aot. All right, that point was bad on my part. But you're wrong in your original post too you know. I got pissed off when you said "It's like the Author wrote whatever came on his mind" when clearly is not true as there have been many foreshadowing/clues before that particular plot event happens. |
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Ishitateso said: Mal look at this user. So evil. He is trying to overcome your rule by using pictures. That's challanging the definition of disrespecting the powah of mods, then I think mods are busy at some other thing. They can't be that genuine. Or they? ...Dear MAL, I don't know why I should write more than 30 characters when there are more than 30 characters in the picture and I have nothing more to add. |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
namkeenchoot said: MrSpenfo said: I do get what you are saying. It just boils down to human nature and there is no one true meaning, I just wanted to find out if I was the only one who had doubts also it is my nature to doubt people for better or for worse. Just wanted to know if I was the oddball who couldn't see things which are otherwise so "obvious".You're right, you have no way of truly "knowing", however how many things do you truly know in real life? All of life, what "reality" is, all boils down to your own perspective and your interpretation of the information you have collected throughout your life time. The more things that coincide, the more you believe in them, and when things contradict, you lose faith in them; stories are the exact same way. There will always be someone who perceives life and stories differently then you do. However, just because you can't truly "know" something, doesn't mean you can't be confident in your interpretation, after all, that's exactly what it means to have faith. Ultimately, what matters most isn't what's in the author's head; it's the average reader's interpretation that actually matters. You might think this sounds wrong, as it could lead a "bad" writer to getting fame or a "good" writer to being neglected, but like I said before, you can never truly "know", so you should let the work speak for itself. Consider it like this, the more often a coincidence occurs, the less likely it is to only be a coincidence. I mean, it's healthy to hold a certain level of doubt over all things, especially those you don't have the most experience with, but through experience your doubt should be reduced and your faith increased. So if you're afraid of misinterpreting the story in front of you, my only suggestion would to be to consume as many stories as you can, and spend time asking yourself questions about the material you've read/watched. After all that's what I've been doing for the past ten years and I definitely have a much higher level of understanding now, than I did when I first thought I might want to be a writer. |
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| Interpret complex is fine as long as you are in the right direction But interpret complex and wrongly... |
| People might view the text differently to how the author intended, but it's very unlikely that they are actually thinking more about it than the author did. |
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Peeti said: to overcome your rule by using pictures Wow, you are right! There are only 2 characters on those pictures: Natsumi and Komari. The poster was trying to pass them as 7 different characters from 4 pictures. |
| Thinking about something in deep, and perhaps reaching further than the author intended is just a way of engagement and the author would much likely encourage that kind of interaction with their work. I find complaining about this kind of veering toward anti-intellectual territory and for no good reason. |
alshu said: I make people wow sometimes but now you too! I am impressed with maself now.Peeti said: to overcome your rule by using pictures Wow, you are right! There are only 2 characters on those pictures: Natsumi and Komari. The poster was trying to pass them as 7 different characters from 4 pictures. |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
| Yes. Ever since the Evangelion discussion boards of the late 90s. |
| Well tbh I always get that feeling... |
| Yes.. The One Piece fans surely think and create more plot than the author Oda himself. Most of the plots are good though. |
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| They most certainly do. I remember reading about Death Note and it's use of apples as a symbol for "stuff" while the author and/or artist years later claimed that they just thought apples were cool. I don't know if it's true, though. |
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| I think a lot of times, the illustrator or author portraits things that although not always thoroughly thought, has a subconscious feeling behind that drives how they want it to look. Those subconscious intentions/feelings make it sound more grandiose when put into words. |
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namkeenchoot said: G1llette said: I mean the author is a single individual and when the readers think about what the author has written it is multiple people maybe even in the millions. Is it that wrong of me to assume what a million different minds came up with may just be more than what a single mind came up with?People might view the text differently to how the author intended, but it's very unlikely that they are actually thinking more about it than the author did. I assumed the original post was referring to individuals, but it doesn’t make much of a difference. Analysing texts is often about coming to our own conclusions, not uncovering the mindset of the author |
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