Altay545 said: Wow so much hate on this discussions lol. While I do think that sometimes people take it too far shipping 2 girls together when theyre having normal interactions, people that refuse to see that theres something more at times also piss me off. Well its all a case by case thing really but some people are just too set on one side. I do hate yuri baiting though and this show has definitely done it, like c'mon anyone refusing theyre not yuri baiting are delusional, the pv trailers and the promotional art always has showed their relationship very ambiguous. Now im a filthy yuri lover myself so i'll admit i'd love this to be a yuri and might be looking too much into things, but when I saw the trailer for this one with a buddy of mine, who doesn't like yuri, he asked me if this was a yuri i was waiting for and that he'd watch it cuz the production values looked great (And cuz i hounded him to watch more yuri), so yeah I dont think its just people "looking too much into nothing". At least I dind't see the yuri stuff in the pv. But for the opening there is definitively some yuri bait. |
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Tigerle said: At least I dind't see the yuri stuff in the pv. But for the opening there is definitively some yuri bait. Really nothing in the pv? Welp again even a friend of mine who isnt into yuri thought that this was a yuri from that pv lol, and i aint saying that as some irrefutable proof or something, im just saying that like even if someone not into yuri got those kinds of hints theres a good reason for people believing this will be a yuri right? OP definitely baiting right lol, I personally hope it doesn't end in just bait and its an actual yuri, there really arent that many yuri anime out there. Either way OP and ED are both quite good right? ED especially is so chill. |
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| The correct term is Yuri and not shoujo ai Sadly I don't think so. P.A. Works has proved with their previous work they don't like lesbians very much. And only use them as bait. This time I am not bitting,I learned my lesson Because its P.A. Works I think this is going to be nothing more than bait But I hope I am wrong about that, and that this Is a wonderful lesbian romance |
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| When deep friends is a thing that doesn't exist so they must be gay.™ People pretending that something is something else by denying or forcing an untrue viewpoint are both just as bad as one another. You cannot deny and wish that’s it’s not when it’s proven to be gl, but you also cannot be adamant and wishing that two close friends going through a lot together automatically make it look like a gl. Fetishising is not cool. |
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seba_kings said: I saw on crunchyroll ig that this is a romance anime, will it be between the two girls (idr their names) or that'll feel too cliché? Being gay isn't cliche lol For this anime, my guess is no romance or het. though they could subvert things since there's subtext. As for gay media, it's fine to not be interested. It's not exactly a niche though since plenty of straight people watch stuff with yuri or yoai. Also, people should ship whoever they like - it doesn't affect anyone else. |
| hehehehe.. i don't if it's shoujo ai tho i think it will be just normal romance anime |
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| PA Works never did anything yuri and on top of that, they made very similar shows with female comradery as it's main focus, like Sakura Quest, Hanasaku Iroha and Shirobako, which were not yuri at all, so it's safe to assume this one won't be as well. |
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| Its anime original, so there's literally no way to know yet. |
Piromysl said: PA Works never did anything yuri and on top of that, they made very similar shows with female comradery as it's main focus, like Sakura Quest, Hanasaku Iroha and Shirobako, which were not yuri at all, so it's safe to assume this one won't be as well. Both Hanasaku Iroha and Shirobako had romance. In Hansaku Iroha there was het romance while in Shirobako the romance is for the anime industry. |
Yinkie66 said: I honestly think it’s going to be shoujo ai and here’s why. Currently, the only genre listed is slice of life, but slice of life isn’t a genre that works on its own. Take k-on for example which is heavily slice of life based while also having some comedy and being about music. Aquatope however doesn’t have comedy strong enough for the whole show to revolve around it. And let’s not forget that this show will be 24 episodes long. 24 episodes long about nothing just doesn’t sound right. At least to me.. Let me know what you think This show was only labeled SoL because the synopsis was pretty generic and didn't say anything about genres. |
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Yinkie66 said: RobertBobert said: This show was only labeled SoL because the synopsis was pretty generic and didn't say anything about genres. Yeah but when watching the show, you can clearly tell it’s a slice of life. I’d say 95% of all anime I watch are slice of life so.. Well, with this logic, any show about the life of ordinary people is Slice of Life. That, as we found out, is somewhat misleading, agree. This is the same logic as naming horror any thriller or disaster movie. All of them evoke fear in some way, but they are not horror films. |
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| Hope it's not gonna be Shoujo Ai cause it's usually too innocent and boring to watch for me, I'm not a huge fan of the show so far anyway though so I'd be happy for those who'd enjoy it. |
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| If you ask me, every anime should be yuri. Archon_Wing said: This is pretty crazy. Two girls get a bit close to each other.... they must be gay! This crap has been going on even before the show aired; this just sounds like twisting facts to suit the conclusion. Plus PA Works also has had many shows with heavily female casts and none of them had any sensuality to any appreciable levels. Even the romance in Hana Saku Iroha was kinda a secondary thing. I mean look, I think I have my yuri goggles turned up really high. If it was something like Eupho, I'd understand. I thought Adachi and Shimamura was a blessing because we had a yuri relationship that was just wholesome and did not involve excessive drama or (even worse) one of the characters being crazy. It was also very clear on it, and not this "bait" crap. This though; this is grasping at straws. If it were a guy and girl doing this, I would not recognize it; if it were 2 guys doing this, I wouldn't either. If there was some kind of inconsistency in reaction, then maybe there would be a case. Btw, I don't care either way. Some men just don't get it that women can be pretty close with each other without being anything gay. Men don't seem to be so close with each other like women often do. Then these men who doesn't have any clue about women yells that it is gayyyyy. Sad. And if it is gay then I don't see what would be wrong with it either way. I think most beautiful thing in the world is love between two women. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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| Wow, by episode 4 it has way more “yuri” action then there ever was in Adachi to Shimamura in terms of physical stuff. |
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| It won't, just let it go. I would be happy if it turned out to be a wholesome shoujo ai, but the way the story has been told so far has made it clear that these two girls will be very good friends but nothing more. |
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RavenWolf1 said: Archon_Wing said: This is pretty crazy. Two girls get a bit close to each other.... they must be gay! This crap has been going on even before the show aired; this just sounds like twisting facts to suit the conclusion. Plus PA Works also has had many shows with heavily female casts and none of them had any sensuality to any appreciable levels. Even the romance in Hana Saku Iroha was kinda a secondary thing. I mean look, I think I have my yuri goggles turned up really high. If it was something like Eupho, I'd understand. I thought Adachi and Shimamura was a blessing because we had a yuri relationship that was just wholesome and did not involve excessive drama or (even worse) one of the characters being crazy. It was also very clear on it, and not this "bait" crap. This though; this is grasping at straws. If it were a guy and girl doing this, I would not recognize it; if it were 2 guys doing this, I wouldn't either. If there was some kind of inconsistency in reaction, then maybe there would be a case. Btw, I don't care either way. Some men just don't get it that women can be pretty close with each other without being anything gay. Men don't seem to be so close with each other like women often do. Then these men who doesn't have any clue about women yells that it is gayyyyy. Sad. And if it is gay then I don't see what would be wrong with it either way. I think most beautiful thing in the world is love between two women. Huh, I keep hearing one or other guy trying to prove that girls are too gay because he never did that with his dudebro. I used to often complain about these people acting like bigots, but it looks like their logic just shuts down when they see something shippy. Spicelit said: Wow, by episode 4 it has way more “yuri” action then there ever was in Adachi to Shimamura in terms of physical stuff. You ignore the fact that both shows have different accents. Kimetsu no Yaiba subjectively has more physical interaction between male characters than any Yuri on Ice!, but I doubt that makes it a show that even just tries to tease in that direction. |
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Archon_Wing said: Accents? Like genre? I’m not following ya. Spicelit said: Wow, by episode 4 it has way more “yuri” action then there ever was in Adachi to Shimamura in terms of physical stuff. You ignore the fact that both shows have different accents. Kimetsu no Yaiba subjectively has more physical interaction between male characters than any Yuri on Ice!, but I doubt that makes it a show that even just tries to tease in that direction. Both AtS and Aquatope have the tag shoujo ai. If Aquatope is going to be a shoujo ai, then based on this episode I think it will have a much more solid main relationship than AtS. Sure, there isn’t really any solid proof that this is gonna be a shoujo ai, but with the direction it’s going I feel like it is. I think I’m just confused by the tags… |
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Spicelit said: Archon_Wing said: Accents? Like genre? I’m not following ya. You ignore the fact that both shows have different accents. Kimetsu no Yaiba subjectively has more physical interaction between male characters than any Yuri on Ice!, but I doubt that makes it a show that even just tries to tease in that direction. Both AtS and Aquatope have the tag shoujo ai. If Aquatope is going to be a shoujo ai, then based on this episode I think it will have a much more solid main relationship than AtS. Sure, there isn’t really any solid proof that this is gonna be a shoujo ai, but with the direction it’s going I feel like it is. I think I’m just confused by the tags… You confused something, Aquatope never had such a tag and was never positioned as romance at all. As for accents, different shows put them in different ways. The romance show will obviously dose and appreciate more the physical intimacy between the characters, rather than throwing them off so easily. |
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Archon_Wing said: I definitely forgot about that lol. I honestly just remember it as a shoujo ai that doesn’t cross any huge boundariesSpicelit said: Wow, by episode 4 it has way more “yuri” action then there ever was in Adachi to Shimamura in terms of physical stuff. Did we watch the same show? AdaShima had a scene where I mean it was much more of a comedic moment than a sexual one, but how many "only friends" do that regularly? Certainly a stronger case than just hands touching on the face. |
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Liddo-kun said: after the latest episode.. I'm still not sure. Feels like what just happened is a big yuri bait. Need more episodes.. before deciding. Yes bait, but nothing more. Hibike! Euphonium is the best example of an anime in which two girls kiss each other but there is no previous development leading up to that moment just sheer fanservice totally out of place. A romantic story would have a different, emotionally more impactful approach to a scene like the one you are referring to, that is why I think this series will not have more meaningful shoujo ai moments than that you would get from a story just baiting it viewers. Of course it is still possible that in the long run their friendship will turn into something more beautifull but now I don't see any hint to that in the anime. |
IshitatesoAug 1, 2021 7:31 AM
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Ishitateso said: Liddo-kun said: after the latest episode.. I'm still not sure. Feels like what just happened is a big yuri bait. Need more episodes.. before deciding. Yes bait, but nothing more. Hibike! Euphonium is the best example of an anime in which two girls kiss each other but there is no previous development leading up to that moment just sheer fanservice totally out of place. A romantic story would have a different, emotionally more impactful approach to a scene like the one you are referring to, that is why I think this series will not have more meaningful shoujo ai moments than that you would get from a story just baiting it viewers. Of course it is still possible that in the long run their friendship will turn into something more beautifull but now I don't see any hint to that in the anime. Hibike Lesbian Kiss? When it was? But going back to yuri bait, I don't understand why people keep calling bait any scene they find intimate. Western fans really need to understand that the intimacy between characters can be shown in a bunch of different ways, especially in Japanese culture, and it is manic to expect any such moment to be an attempt by bait yuri shippers to be just silly or narcissistic. Female characters can also be intimate with each other for plot purposes rather than bait yuri shipeprs. However, remembering how people called yuri bait even the very existence of mostly all-female titles, my question becomes rhetorical. |
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| instead of Yuri, wouldn't it be better to call the relationship between the two a platonic relationship. people always thought of the relationship between two girls and two boys as Yuri and Yaoi. eventhough it's more like a platonic relationship. |
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Snow_dropindo99 said: instead of Yuri, wouldn't it be better to call the relationship between the two a platonic relationship. people always thought of the relationship between two girls and two boys as Yuri and Yaoi. eventhough it's more like a platonic relationship. The problem is that lately people are extremely prone to wishful thinking and quickly make it personal due to general immaturity. Modern shipping has long been reminiscent of conspiracy theories, such as manic attempts to convince oneself that any platonic intimacy between characters is a yuri bait on the part of the authors. For example, I still remember the times when Iroha was broadcast, when a bunch of people non-ironically thought that the authors ship MC with one of her female colleagues. |
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| Shoujo ai? Not enough shoujo ai for me. A friendship between two girls is better. |
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| There's definitely room for interpreting it as shoujo ai, and the anime makes it ambiguous, but it would probably more correctly classified as "yuri bait" in that case. Or you could just see it a sister-like relationship between two girls. I don't think the direction cares about making it clear either way. |
| the story has been quite enjoyable so far... yuri added or not, I intend to watch this anime to the end. however, due to cash being so short and hard to obtain these days.. I would probably only buy things from this show if they give yuri, or strong enough bait that makes me open wallet. |
| I planning on watching this cause is giving girls love vibes so I hope is shoujo ai |
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| I do not understand why other people necessarily want this to be "normal romance", there are over 1000 anime with "normal romance" instead of Shoujo ai which there are not even a quarter....I understand that enough people here have been and are raised in very heteronormative societies and they have grown up to be taught in not seeing anything other than the usual pairing of Boy x girl...But still there are muchhh moreee animes showing that already....So much so that Shoujo ai romances are refreshing for me and others like me |
loolz said: I do not understand why other people necessarily want this to be "normal romance", there are over 1000 anime with "normal romance" instead of Shoujo ai which there are not even a quarter....I understand that enough people here have been and are raised in very heteronormative societies and they have grown up to be taught in not seeing anything other than the usual pairing of Boy x girl...But still there are muchhh moreee animes showing that already....So much so that Shoujo ai romances are refreshing for me and others like me Yeah but this is not shoujo ai. |
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Swagernator said: loolz said: I do not understand why other people necessarily want this to be "normal romance", there are over 1000 anime with "normal romance" instead of Shoujo ai which there are not even a quarter....I understand that enough people here have been and are raised in very heteronormative societies and they have grown up to be taught in not seeing anything other than the usual pairing of Boy x girl...But still there are muchhh moreee animes showing that already....So much so that Shoujo ai romances are refreshing for me and others like me Yeah but this is not shoujo ai. I love appealing to emotions in discussions that try to figure out the truth in interpretation. It's like people quite seriously expect wishful thinking to work if they ask really hard. |
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| So far this has been a really good friendship anime imo. Kukuru said to Fuuka "I've never had a sister and have always wanted one" then they held hands when they fell asleep. Not at all in a romantic sense but because they have both been lonely and wanted comfort and friendship. I think Fuuka and Kukuru look at each like sisters. The only possible romance may be Kai and Kukuru, but i doubt it. |
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loolz said: I do not understand why other people necessarily want this to be "normal romance", there are over 1000 anime with "normal romance" instead of Shoujo ai which there are not even a quarter....I understand that enough people here have been and are raised in very heteronormative societies and they have grown up to be taught in not seeing anything other than the usual pairing of Boy x girl...But still there are muchhh moreee animes showing that already....So much so that Shoujo ai romances are refreshing for me and others like me I don't understand why you and some other people would want it to be a Shoujo Ai in the first place ether, There are a handful of shoujo ai series out there and most of them are left to be forgotten mainly caz even the peopke who like shoujo ai aren't showing enough love ether. reality check : -lesbians makes only like 15% of the LGBT community (even less so then gay men) -LGBT people in general isn't 50% of the population no matter how much you want to believe it -these kind of shows don't garner enough attacntion for sales as so many of them had not getting 2nd sasons due to poor sales and when that happens the shows are left with the source to be forgotten with time then people well come and complain that they don't exist when they did just not as a selling itam and with the advent of the internet and people getting access to better entertiement for free why would they waste money on trash like yuri/yoai and shouju-ai ? when they can still get it for free and webtoon is flooded with these kind of materials |
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