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May 17, 2021 8:11 PM
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MinorTatu said:
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Oh, calm your tits, princess. Sorry you don't feel included, but again, how long you've been on MAL means nothing in regards to this as this topic isn't just limited to MAL, and it's been a big point of discourse in the anime community for years.


NOT EVERYONE IS IN YOUR BUBBLE YOU EGOTIST. I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS POINT BROUGHT UP, MANY OTHER PEOPLE HAVEN'T EITHETR. AND YES THE DISCUSSION IS LIMITED TO MAL BECAUSE OP SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT MAL NOT HAVING WESTERN ANIME TYPE SHOWS ON THEIR DATABASE WHEREAS THEY DO FOR CHINESE AND SK SHOWS.

You can tell to calm my tits and I can tell you to stop eating retarded for breakfast

Did you consider the part of the original post of the thread I was referring to? "I'm sure we have all stumbled across the discussion of whether or not American-made animation inspired by Japanese anime IS actually considered anime."
I was talking about that discussion. That particular point is not exclusive to MAL.

Your insults are so incredibly juvenile that pointing out how juvenile they are is the only response I'll dignify them with.

You should probably apologise to OP because you raging like a child is probably going to catch some attention and get this thread locked. Bravo.
May 18, 2021 5:56 PM

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well, chinese "anime" is actually called donghua and korean "anime" is actually called manhwa.

however, the reasoning is simple: these three countries are in east asia while american animation is in... well, america. there's a stark contrast in both the artstyle and types of animation used.
May 18, 2021 6:30 PM
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Regardless of which side you're on, both sides have decent points, and anyone on either extreme need to maybe give it more thought than "I DON'T LIKE THE OTHER SIDE SO I AIN'T LISTENING".

People against adding Western anime-styled animations solely because of style have not watched a SINGLE donghua in their life, have they? Japanese anime and Chinese donghua are so fucking different that I don't understand how anyone can even consider them in any kind of similar category. The only similarities is style, which, shocker, Western animation can do too. Also people who say "I don't like Western animation, so it shouldn't be added" are dumb.

On the other hand, people for adding Western anime-styled animations can't really answer the "where's the line?" argument, which is an actual good argument. Yes, I would like Avatar the Last Airbender and Castlevania on here, but at the same time that will open the door for everything else Western and it'd be very odd seeing Dexter's Lab on here. I wouldn't exactly mind if they just remade the site and called it MyAnimationList, it's not like it matters, but I do think it is a valid point regardless.

Either way, this should not be this big of a fucking argument. I swear if we saw a topic of "subs vs dubs" I know half of you would say "You can like whichever you like, the subs vs dubs argument should not exist" but then would come into topics like this and start ALL of the toxicity back up. Where the fuck is the consistency?
Jun 22, 2021 7:37 PM

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OOF to the person who said western animation is "worse" compared to Japan is such a weaboo lmao. They DO realize that Yoh Yoshinari (a hugely famous and influential animator & director) is a big fan of western cartoons, right? There are also a lot of Japanese artists on Twitter who love drawing western cartoons. You can be a fan of both and not trash them.

You are also fooling yourself if you think spongebob = anime, just to try to win your argument. If you were to ask someone what their favorite anime is, they would never EVER say spongebob because it's literally nowhere close to anime style. At least if you say Cory in the House, i'll give you a pass for the fun joke.
Jun 22, 2021 7:47 PM

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No clue, but I find it silly that they are included.

Here is my take:
Japanese Animation = Anime. Chinese / Korean / American / Other Country Animation =/= Anime.

If it isn't Japanese Animation, it shouldn't be here. Because it isn't anime.

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Jun 22, 2021 8:07 PM

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albegold said:
korean "anime" is actually called manhwa.

Wrong! Manhwa is the Korean word for COMIC. It's the equivalent of what Manga is to the Japanese and Manhua to the Chinese. Korean anime is ACTUALLY called 'aeni' which, like the word animation is shortened in Japanese to anime, aeni is the shortened version of 'aenimeisyeon' (which is 'animation' in Korean).

I felt the need to correct you since other people looking at this thread may actually take you seriously.

Also, I hate the stupid arguement over why Donghua and Aeni are listed on an anime site. Quite frankly, as long as it's asian I'm okay with it being listed here. You have to draw the line somewhere and while, yes, western cartoons are entertaining, if I find things like Spongebob, Avatar, Futurama, The Simpsons, etc. on this site, then I'm done. Just my opinion on the matter...
Jun 22, 2021 8:25 PM

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MAL should probably remove all Korean and Chinese animation to be honest.
Jun 22, 2021 8:33 PM

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MAL consider Japanese , Korean and Chinese show as anime because this three are East Asian countries . There art style and animation is quite similar and they also work together in there anime production ,

I don't have any problem with that i got really addicted to Chinese anime after watching LINK CLICK .
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Jun 22, 2021 11:53 PM

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Ask yourself that question again after checking out "Yu-Gi-Oh! Capsule Monsters".
Sep 5, 2021 5:08 AM

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who knows, I've always wondered that too
Sep 5, 2021 6:22 AM
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I think it's because they are all east Asian countries

Personally I don't think they should consider them anime though

Sep 5, 2021 7:05 AM

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The reason:







Japan, Korea and China have the same cultural roots.

They are like latin countries, no, even more close. These similarities transpose to animation and comics.


I approve this good sense of MAL, a lot better than average whiny weebs.


And so, it is not about "every asian animation".


Good luck trying to find here:

This 2012's Thai animation movie:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak:_The_Giant_King

This 2019's Malaysian movie:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ejen_Ali:_The_Movie

This 2020's adult comedy from Philippines that is even available on Netflix:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayop_Ka!








Sep 5, 2021 7:07 AM

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I guess cause they are all from East Asia.
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Sep 29, 2021 11:18 AM
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because the owners of this MAL want to throw around the litte authority they have?
Sep 29, 2021 11:43 AM

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its because of us, the fans. the dumbasses.

if that is hopefully to happen one day, then all kinds of fandoms will start throwing literal shit on each other.

i'd personally be happy if they do that, and improve the general layout of the site, its been nearly 10 years since any big change.

i really dont want to use imdb or other sites cuz i literally grew up on here and got used to it.
so, fingers crossed.
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Sep 29, 2021 2:58 PM
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I dont really understood who decided the limitation. In japan doesn't anime refer to anything animated (i.e disney movie/pixar movies would be considered anime). Is it just the community gatekeeping itself or just the values of the site. As we go forward places like U.S/france/China are all gonna continue making similar works and grow and I personally would love if all types of animation were shown and appreciated.
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its because of us, the fans. the dumbasses.

if that is hopefully to happen one day, then all kinds of fandoms will start throwing literal shit on each other.

i'd personally be happy if they do that, and improve the general layout of the site, its been nearly 10 years since any big change.

i really dont want to use imdb or other sites cuz i literally grew up on here and got used to it.
so, fingers crossed.
Oct 5, 2021 4:41 AM

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I mean MAL has this thing considered as anime.
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Oct 9, 2021 7:59 PM

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NinoHaruhara said:
Nurguburu said:
Cuz Asian Animation is better than western animation. Western Animation is trash.

Stay away from my anime, western animation!
THIS ONE!!!!! I 10000% agree with you. asian animation will forever be superior to american animation, though I have nothing against american animation.
Nothing is always anything. Everything changes, only motion is absolute. Therefore there could come a day where Western animation is superior to Asian animation. In some respect Western animation already IS superior to Asian animation, think CGI. (I have nothing against your opinion)
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May 12, 2023 10:36 PM

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Because when MAL was built, this was what they decided on. 

It should also be noted that Japanese animation studios collaborate with Chinese and South Korean animation studios to a high degree. The collaboration between the three countries in animation has also been increasing over time rather than decreasing, making it even harder to decide what is "anime". It's not something like OEL manga which used to be included on MAL before it was cut out since it didn't have much to do with Japan production-wise.

I guess there's also the cultural similarities. These three countries are more similar to each other than they are to any Western country.
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May 12, 2023 11:10 PM

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I'm sure we have all stumbled across the discussion of whether or not Korean, Japanese and Chinese filmography inspired by American films are actually considered Hollywood movies?

Why the bias there then, why aren't the Korean, Japanese and Chinese movies also called Hollywood movies then ?
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I don't know what you mean. Maybe this site is the exception, but outside of it, I don't see anyone consider Chinese and Korean animation as anime. If anything, I see the opposite where people dislike using the term anime on anything that isn't Japanese.
May 12, 2023 11:29 PM
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What I find ironic is that MAL lists Radiant, a Japanese-produced anime, but not the manga it's adapted from because it's made by a French author. It makes no sense. If Japan has adapted a manga into anime, no matter where the manga was made, it should be included as well. 

And as time goes on, I guarantee more and more manga made outside of Asia will be adapted into anime by Japanese studios. Or on the flip side, more and more Asian manga will be made into anime by streaming services like Netflix and Hulu. 
May 13, 2023 2:01 AM

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Because American Animation is too good to be on MyAnimeList. Weebshit is just objectively garbage, western animation is peak.
May 13, 2023 2:27 AM

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tbh I'm all for purging Mahuas and Manhwas from the website. 
But I guess eastern animations are getting closer and closer to each other in terms of message, style, even staff working on them (they co-work a lot recently), etc… 
May 13, 2023 2:31 AM
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Why does MAL consider Chinese/Korean animation but not American animation as Anime?

American anime isn't Asian..
 

May 13, 2023 2:36 AM

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Because who else tries to make an anime series than RoosterTeeth? And who cares about RoosterTeeth these days?

The series died with Monty.

May 13, 2023 3:31 AM
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Nurguburu said:
Cuz Asian Animation is better than western animation. Western Animation is trash.

Stay away from my anime, western animation!
As an Asian, I agree. xD 

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NinoHaruhara said:
Nurguburu said:
Cuz Asian Animation is better than western animation. Western Animation is trash.

Stay away from my anime, western animation!
THIS ONE!!!!! I 10000% agree with you. asian animation will forever be superior to american animation, though I have nothing against american animation.
As an Asian, I agree. 


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May 13, 2023 3:48 AM

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Guess one question I have to ask is how this rule would apply with American properties that were largely animated by East Asian animation studios, like The Last Unicorn and the 80s Transformers series?
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None of them are anime, so I have no idea. They don't even look all that similar, for the record.


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