| There are actually people defending this shit lol. The brain damage is real. |
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--ALEX-- said: Ryuk9428 said: Stirling Griff and Connie Bonaros are not right-wingers though. They are literally a part of the "Centre Alliance" led by a guy named Nick Xenophon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connie_Bonaros https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_Griff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Alliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-Best If anything, that just goes to show what an utterly dictatorial regime Australia is that it wasn't even a far-left or far-right party that advanced this law, it was a fucking centrist party. As I've said many times, Japan embodies right-wing ideology better than pretty much any Europeanized country does and we are all here consuming their media because their values produce better media than ours do. Well, what I meant by "Right Wing ideology" is that this is typical stuff by christians. Christians who believe that porn (ALL PORN) should be banned or censored. Christians who LOVE to shove their religious morality down our throats! And let me tell you something about Japan... Japan's right wing is responsible for CENSORING real life porn. Imagine going to PornHub right now and watching porn, and all the vaginas and dicks are blurred with mosaic pixels. Well, that's how ALL porn is in Japan, and that IS 100% due to Right-Wingers. And it's horrible, because I'm a HUGE fan of JAV porn...I believe Asian women are the BEST women on this planet, they are the most "natural" and best looking to me. Yeah the genitals are censored but I think the reason why that law continues is because, honestly, people aren't that bothered by it. It would be nice if it was gone but its not really that big of a deal given that the Japanese government lets people do so many other things. I'd argue that the majority of anime and visual novels that are made in Japan would be extremely difficult or impossible to get made in America at this point. If I went to pornhub and the genitals had a mosiac on them I don't think it would bother me that much as I am used to watching a good bit of JAV porn or fapping to ecchi where they either aren't shown at all or have a mosiac. To me, censorship seems more about authoritarian vs libertarian leanings than left vs right. It just so happens at different points of history, authoritarians have been more attracted to different sides. Usually authoritarians flock to the side they believe is winning the cultural tug of war. Let me ask you Alex, do these articles sound like they are written by sex hating prudes? https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/the-sexual-revolutionaries-got-sexual-satisfaction-all-wrong/ https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/12/men-see-women-sex-objects-its-not-misogynist-its-reality/ Its the National Review. They are even more conservative than Fox. What about these Christian blogs? https://www.focusonthefamily.com/marriage/your-husbands-sex-drive-is-gods-gift-to-you/ https://thetransformedwife.com/why-do-men-have-such-a-strong-sex-drive/ |
Ryuk9428Oct 24, 2020 10:17 PM
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| How fucking brain dead you have to think that banning hentai is a good move, fuck Australia, fuck prudes and fuck any financial interest that main stream porn migth have to cuck the alternatives. |
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| And here I was told Australia had more freedoms than the US. |
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Gogetters said: And here I was told Australia had more freedoms than the US. Australia is more far left than the UK. The far left stuff they push out wouldn't fly in the UK and definitely not the US. |
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| Australian government doesn't know the internet exists? |
Hoppy said: We have a right wing party in control as of current so I disagree with your sentiment, I’d say Australia isn’t that politically different from the UK.Gogetters said: And here I was told Australia had more freedoms than the US. Australia is more far left than the UK. The far left stuff they push out wouldn't fly in the UK and definitely not the US. |
MonochrosanityOct 28, 2020 7:25 AM
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Hoppy said: Gogetters said: And here I was told Australia had more freedoms than the US. Australia is more far left than the UK. The far left stuff they push out wouldn't fly in the UK and definitely not the US. Australia's government is right wing as of now so you would be wrong. also i would like to point out that right wing religious conservatives have been waging war on anime longer then any far left group. anyone else remember when things like digimon and pokemon were called satanic? |
GrimAtramentOct 28, 2020 9:48 AM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
hazarddex said: Hoppy said: Australia is more far left than the UK. The far left stuff they push out wouldn't fly in the UK and definitely not the US. Australia's government is right wing as of now so you would be wrong. also i would like to point out that right wing religious conservatives have been waging war on anime longer then any far left group. anyone else remember when things like digimon and pokemon were called satanic? Can you find sources for the right attacking anime? Every article i see is always liberals attacking it for sexism, diversity and transphobia. |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: hazarddex said: Australia's government is right wing as of now so you would be wrong. also i would like to point out that right wing religious conservatives have been waging war on anime longer then any far left group. anyone else remember when things like digimon and pokemon were called satanic? Can you find sources for the right attacking anime? Every article i see is always liberals attacking it for sexism, diversity and transphobia. I have NEVER seen a “leftist” American politician want to ban anime or hentai or loli or anything like that. You know who I HAVE seen in America want to ban anime and hentai? CHRISTIANS! Because once again I will use my own anecdotal evidence, I was once a Christian and I KNOW very well how they think. Anime and hentai are viewed as “satanic” for Christians such as evangelicals. It is a SIN to watch pornography for Christians. It is a SIN to masturbate for Christians. It is a SIN to take any carnal pleasure for Christians. Anime is viewed as a “secular” trap that is used to lure young men away from god. Hell, I can’t even blame Christians here...they’re 100% right...I worship Momo more than their phony god. Anyways...Christians are VERY anti-anime and hentai. |
Kayle_x_Morgana said: hazarddex said: Australia's government is right wing as of now so you would be wrong. also i would like to point out that right wing religious conservatives have been waging war on anime longer then any far left group. anyone else remember when things like digimon and pokemon were called satanic? Can you find sources for the right attacking anime? Every article i see is always liberals attacking it for sexism, diversity and transphobia. idk why you are replying to me when you said you blocked me, but here https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/09/christian-group-goes-on-attack-against-steams-new-adult-filters-sexy-visual-novels/69286/ this happened when a game know as kindred spirit got banned off stean. (most notably was a yuri visual novel.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_on_Sexual_Exploitation there history original name was Morality in Media(which they changed so people wouldn't recognize them.), which was and still is a christian/catholic group that apposed pornography, and same sex marriage. https://medium.com/@paymantaei/the-5-biggest-controversies-in-pokémon-history-infographic-7afe81747ab3 the pokemon one  also from personal experience religious right tends not to like anime. |
GrimAtramentOct 28, 2020 1:16 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| And that’s the most laughable thing about Internet Right-Wingers. They don’t know anything about the Right-Wing in America. In America, EVANGELICAL Christians are the MOST loyal and biggest voting block for the GOP. That’s why they cater soooo much to them. Evangelical Christians would BAN all anime in a heartbeat if given the chance. They would ban ALL porn if given the chance. They would make masturbation illegal if given the chance. There’s a GOOD reason why Evangelicals are Called the “American Taliban”....it’s literally who they are. They worship a FAKE god and read fairy tales for grown-ups and then want to shove their nonsense down our throats. |
| Lol, this thread is hilarious. Seeing people talk about god or how evil the right it's about censorship when everytime I saw some drama about anime, like with Goblin Slayer, The Shield Hero, Uzaki, etc it's generally the left that makes it a thing it's so ironic that it's funny. Anyways, not fan of censorship. |
HeimurOct 28, 2020 1:24 PM
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hazarddex said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Can you find sources for the right attacking anime? Every article i see is always liberals attacking it for sexism, diversity and transphobia. https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/09/christian-group-goes-on-attack-against-steams-new-adult-filters-sexy-visual-novels/69286/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_on_Sexual_Exploitation https://endsexualexploitation.org/articles/statement-steam-approves-first-uncensored-porn-game/ there history the're original name was Morality in Media(which they changed so people wouldn't recognize them.), which was a christian group that apposed pornography, and same sex marriage. this happened when a game know as kindred spirit got banned off stean. (most notably was a yuri visual novel.) https://medium.com/@paymantaei/the-5-biggest-controversies-in-pokémon-history-infographic-7afe81747ab3 the pokemon one Really? It literally supports the fake metoo movement quoting a huffpoop feminazi Steam is willfully contributing to the cultural objectification of women with this game. Also this is just one group that no one whatsoever listens to. I didn't even know it existed to now. Compared to how many articles from left wing? |
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| @Heimur I've seen a lot of people say they don't like the shows, but no one say they want it banned. (unless were talking people who spam change.org peitions which don't really do anything.) which i got to say is it illegal not to like certain shows now? i don't like Goblin slayer because the protagonist is a brick, and the show does DnD poorly. (like seriously if you are struggling with goblins beholders should mop the floor with your carcass.) and how is demons invading less of a problem then goblins? makes no sense. demons in dnd ripping a hole into the material plane causes the land around the hole to literally start decaying and dying. shield hero has a great first arc, but afterwards it kinda gets meh (manga reader.) uzaki's been getting hate form both sides of the political compass. right wingers hating it because uzaki teases the main character and left wingers because uzaki's desgin. both complaints are silly. |
GrimAtramentOct 28, 2020 1:48 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| Hopefully Austrailia goes on to ban all anime and other countries follow then the world will be controlled by cartoons. Muhahahahahahaha! |
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Heimur said: Lol, this thread is hilarious. Seeing people talk about god or how evil the right it's about censorship when everytime I saw some drama about anime, like with Goblin Slayer, The Shield Hero, Uzaki, etc it's generally the left that makes it a thing it's so ironic that it's funny. Anyways, not fan of censorship. Go to ANY Evangelical church to see what they think of anime...they will tell you it’s “Satanic” or “Secular” or whatever other buzzword they use, but in the end it’s the same...they are AGAINST IT! Evangelicals in America are the BIGGEST and most LOYAL voting block for the GOP (Right-Wing). Internet Right-Wingers are JUST as degenerate as us Internet Lefties...the difference is that Internet Right-Wingers have this DEEP delusion that the GOP and Right-Wing in general would NEVER be against freedom of expression. This is comical and wholeheartedly IGNORANT! The GOP kiss the ass of Evangelical Christians. And Christianity is ANTI-Anime...that is a 100% FACT! |
hazarddex said: @Heimur I've seen a lot of people say they don't like the shows, but no one say they want it banned. (unless were talking people who spam change.org peitions which don't really do anything.) which i got to say is it illegal not to like certain shows now? i don't like Goblin slayer because the protagonist is a brick, and the show does DnD poorly. (like seriously if you are struggling with goblins beholders should mop the floor with your carcass.) and how is demons invading less of a problem then goblins? makes no sense. demons in dnd ripping a hole into the material plane causes the land around the hole to literally start decaying and dying. shield hero has a great first arc, but afterwards it kinda gets meh (manga reader.) uzaki's been getting hate form both sides of the political compass. right wingers hating it because uzaki teases the main character and left wingers because uzaki's desgin. both complaints are silly. ? Why are you saying that it was a simple you arent allowed to dislike a certain show and talking about the quality of the shows while ignoring the whole 13 weeks of only rapist enjoy GS or only Incels and woman haters would like the Shield Hero? Why ignore the 'controversies' when people wanted those shows to be cancelled because of them? ??? |
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Heimur said: hazarddex said: @Heimur I've seen a lot of people say they don't like the shows, but no one say they want it banned. (unless were talking people who spam change.org peitions which don't really do anything.) which i got to say is it illegal not to like certain shows now? i don't like Goblin slayer because the protagonist is a brick, and the show does DnD poorly. (like seriously if you are struggling with goblins beholders should mop the floor with your carcass.) and how is demons invading less of a problem then goblins? makes no sense. demons in dnd ripping a hole into the material plane causes the land around the hole to literally start decaying and dying. shield hero has a great first arc, but afterwards it kinda gets meh (manga reader.) uzaki's been getting hate form both sides of the political compass. right wingers hating it because uzaki teases the main character and left wingers because uzaki's desgin. both complaints are silly. ? Why are you saying that it was a simple you arent allowed to dislike a certain show and talking about the quality of the shows while ignoring the whole 13 weeks of only rapist enjoy GS or only Incels and woman haters would like the Shield Hero? Why ignore the 'controversies' when people wanted those shows to be cancelled because of them? ??? nah a lot of people defending GS called anyone who dared criticize the shows for any flaws it had SJW's even if a ton of them had nothing to do with the 1st episode, but the over all quality of the series. i'm not ignoring it I've genuinely not seen a anyone calling for it to be banned. people have voice there dislike, but I've not seen people saying it should be banned. from experience most people i have seen saying anime should be banned have been super evangelistic whom i grew up with from Sunday school you should be careful not to conflate people disliking something with wanting it banned I've seen a lot of "own the libs." types doing that lately. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| Look at this shit right here: https://412teens.org/qna/should-a-Christian-watch-anime.php “In the case of Japanese anime, there is, sadly, a lot of negative stigma. And due to its unfortunate tie to pornography, many parents will put an absolute ban on anime altogether in an effort to protect you.” Imagine being an Internet Right-Winger and NOT knowing that Christianity (the biggest RIGHT-wingers of them all) are Anti-Anime. @ Right-Wingers God does NOT approve of your Waifu, or your heathenistic love towards anime that comes from a nation of ATHEISTS. please repent, Anime is SINful, ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart and be a good Conservative boy, no fapping allowed either! |
hazarddex said: Heimur said: ? Why are you saying that it was a simple you arent allowed to dislike a certain show and talking about the quality of the shows while ignoring the whole 13 weeks of only rapist enjoy GS or only Incels and woman haters would like the Shield Hero? Why ignore the 'controversies' when people wanted those shows to be cancelled because of them? ??? nah a lot of people defending GS called anyone who dared criticize the shows for any flaws it had SJW's even if a ton of them had nothing to do with the 1st episode, but the over all quality of the series. i'm not ignoring it I've genuinely not seen a anyone calling for it to be banned. people have voice there dislike, but I've not seen people saying it should be banned. from experience most people i have seen saying anime should be banned have been super evangelistic whom i grew up with from Sunday school you should be careful not to conflate people disliking something with wanting it banned I've seen a lot of "own the libs." types doing that lately. Nah not banned. just censor it and change it the way THEY WANT. Aka shit Stephen universe western ways. Not a big deal. at least you can still have anime, it will just be western tier garbage then. --ALEX-- said: Look at this shit right here: https://412teens.org/qna/should-a-Christian-watch-anime.php “In the case of Japanese anime, there is, sadly, a lot of negative stigma. And due to its unfortunate tie to pornography, many parents will put an absolute ban on anime altogether in an effort to protect you.” Imagine being an Internet Right-Winger and NOT knowing that Christianity (the biggest RIGHT-wingers of them all) are Anti-Anime. @ Right-Wingers God does NOT approve of your Waifu, or your heathenistic love towards anime that comes from a nation of ATHEISTS. please repent, Anime is SINful, ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart and be a good Conservative boy, no fapping allowed either!  you sure are obsessed with RIGHT WINGERS and spamming that word. WE got your point the first 5 times. in this thread. also I already said I was an atheist if it was aimed at me. |
Kayle_x_MorganaOct 28, 2020 5:58 PM
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hazarddex said: Heimur said: ? Why are you saying that it was a simple you arent allowed to dislike a certain show and talking about the quality of the shows while ignoring the whole 13 weeks of only rapist enjoy GS or only Incels and woman haters would like the Shield Hero? Why ignore the 'controversies' when people wanted those shows to be cancelled because of them? ??? nah a lot of people defending GS called anyone who dared criticize the shows for any flaws it had SJW's even if a ton of them had nothing to do with the 1st episode, but the over all quality of the series. i'm not ignoring it I've genuinely not seen a anyone calling for it to be banned. people have voice there dislike, but I've not seen people saying it should be banned. from experience most people i have seen saying anime should be banned have been super evangelistic whom i grew up with from Sunday school you should be careful not to conflate people disliking something with wanting it banned I've seen a lot of "own the libs." types doing that lately. Sounds fair, everyone have different experiences. |
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--ALEX-- said: Heimur said: Lol, this thread is hilarious. Seeing people talk about god or how evil the right it's about censorship when everytime I saw some drama about anime, like with Goblin Slayer, The Shield Hero, Uzaki, etc it's generally the left that makes it a thing it's so ironic that it's funny. Anyways, not fan of censorship. Go to ANY Evangelical church to see what they think of anime...they will tell you it’s “Satanic” or “Secular” or whatever other buzzword they use, but in the end it’s the same...they are AGAINST IT! Evangelicals in America are the BIGGEST and most LOYAL voting block for the GOP (Right-Wing). Internet Right-Wingers are JUST as degenerate as us Internet Lefties...the difference is that Internet Right-Wingers have this DEEP delusion that the GOP and Right-Wing in general would NEVER be against freedom of expression. This is comical and wholeheartedly IGNORANT! The GOP kiss the ass of Evangelical Christians. And Christianity is ANTI-Anime...that is a 100% FACT! Any Evangelical Church? That is such a wide numerous amount of different churches some staunchly conservative others very liberal. Plus the GOP is slowly changing to accommodate changing social norms you see a lot more LGBT support going their way. You still got many old Neo Cons but fact is they are never again going to push for Defense Against Marriage acts. That dust is settled and they have started to realize the new social climate. That's why Trump won over Ted Cruz (the more classic Republican candidate). The GOP nominating someone who in large had supported gay rights in the past would have been unheard of in 2008. Most mainstream conservative parties in the West have moderate their views on social issues like gay marriage partially to attract new voters and trying to grab more young people okay with gay rights. Plus again the Right encompasses a lot including the American Libertarian Party which always was for gay rights. Neo Con views are slowly dying in the American Right replaced either by Populist or Libertarian rhetori. Anyway regardless in both cases it's not really relevant here. Guy who proposed and pushed this legislation is from a centrist party that believes in social liberalism. It probably got backed by both the Liberal (Conservative equivalent) and Labor parties in Australia. It just goes back to the issue of people trying to create this utopia through heavy litigation that both sides of the political spectrum in the West have had issues with. All they have done is ban art which will have no significant impact on actually dealing with sexual abuse instead they just made it harder for people to come forward about. Great win for humanity. That said not shocked Australia has always been a joke regarding censorship for games and other forms of media. |
BilboBaggins365Oct 28, 2020 6:58 PM
TolkienFan365 said: --ALEX-- said: Go to ANY Evangelical church to see what they think of anime...they will tell you it’s “Satanic” or “Secular” or whatever other buzzword they use, but in the end it’s the same...they are AGAINST IT! Evangelicals in America are the BIGGEST and most LOYAL voting block for the GOP (Right-Wing). Internet Right-Wingers are JUST as degenerate as us Internet Lefties...the difference is that Internet Right-Wingers have this DEEP delusion that the GOP and Right-Wing in general would NEVER be against freedom of expression. This is comical and wholeheartedly IGNORANT! The GOP kiss the ass of Evangelical Christians. And Christianity is ANTI-Anime...that is a 100% FACT! Any Evangelical Church? That is such a wide numerous amount of different churches some staunchly conservative others very liberal. Plus the GOP is slowly changing to accommodate changing social norms you see a lot more LGBT support going their way. You still got many old Neo Cons but fact is they are never again going to push for Defense Against Marriage acts. That dust is settled and they have started to realize the new social climate. That's why Trump won over Ted Cruz (the more classic Republican candidate). The GOP nominating someone who in large had supported gay rights in the past would have been unheard of in 2008. Most mainstream conservative parties in the West have moderate their views on social issues like gay marriage partially to attract new voters and trying to grab more young people okay with gay rights. Plus again the Right encompasses a lot including the American Libertarian Party which always was for gay rights. Neo Con views are slowly dying in the American Right replaced either by Populist or Libertarian rhetori. Anyway regardless in both cases it's not really relevant here. Guy who proposed and pushed this legislation is from a centrist party that believes in social liberalism. It probably got backed by both the Liberal (Conservative equivalent) and Labor parties in Australia. It just goes back to the issue of people trying to create this utopia through heavy litigation that both sides of the political spectrum in the West have had issues with. All they have done is ban art which will have no significant impact on actually dealing with sexual abuse instead they just made it harder for people to come forward about. Great win for humanity. That said not shocked Australia has always been a joke regarding censorship for games and other forms of media. The GOP has changed quite a bit since the Bush era, in fact the GOP aligned attorney generals are the ones fighting the greedy tech companies like Google. It has some issues, but if more people joined that don't fit the mold of the average GOP voter, things will be more of a big top with a red welcoming gate soon enough. |
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