| Imagine thinking the Democratic party is anywhere close to being "on the left" (would be cool if they were tho) |
| Blacks should give reparations for Obama, America's first Black president, turning Libya into open air slave markets where Blacks are hanged upside down. |
SargonTheGreat said: Femboyhooters said: democratic socialism isnt left? free healthcare isnt left? higher taxes isnt left? imagine believing the lie that america has its overton window shifted all the way to the right, thats not the case its quite the opposite actually while socialists can fit their views into the acceptable category and even the popular category people on the right who believe in a drastically smaller state or drastically lower taxes and no more social benefits arent represented and are labelled psychopaths. Imagine thinking the Democratic party is anywhere close to being "on the left" (would be cool if they were tho) The democratic party as a whole is to the center right. They overwhemingly voted against including medicare for all and the green new deal in their platform. Democratic socialists are the minority in the party. Those of us on the actual left despise Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, etc. I'm not sure what fantasy land you're living in but I wish I was there. |
SargonTheGreat said: Femboyhooters said: joe biden supports gun control and free healthcare you guys are so far left that you think kamala is a moderate, the democratic party is moderate left to far left when the party as a whole doesnt discourage far left radicals and keeps on crawling further and further left.The democratic party as a whole is to the center right. They overwhemingly voted against including medicare for all and the green new deal in their platform. Democratic socialists are the minority in the party. Those of us on the actual left despise Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, etc. I'm not sure what fantasy land you're living in but I wish I was there. Joe Biden does not support "free" healthcare. His proposed public option still leaves 3 million Americans uninsured and it doesn't eliminate medical costs and you're still restricted to providers who accept that plan. And what are you even on about? The party is moving further left? Trump recently mentioned the possibility of pardoning Edward Snowden and Dems are attacking him from the RIGHT saying that Snowden is a traitor. They do not align with ANY of our (the left's) interests. |
SargonTheGreat said: Femboyhooters said: 3 million in a country of over 300 million, also if they really were not left wing they would boot people like aoc out of the party. If they arent left wing why dont they go after antifa and rioter groups who have literal communists among their ranks.Joe Biden does not support "free" healthcare. His proposed public option still leaves 3 million Americans uninsured and it doesn't eliminate medical costs and you're still restricted to providers who accept that plan. And what are you even on about? The party is moving further left? Trump recently mentioned the possibility of pardoning Edward Snowden and Dems are attacking him from the RIGHT saying that Snowden is a traitor. They do not align with ANY of our (the left's) interests. They literally just tried to primary AOC. And Omar. And Talib. Poured millions of dollars into their challengers and failed. They do NOT want what they see as "radicals" in the party. They're trying to get rid of Ed Markey in Mass right now too. |
SargonTheGreat said: Femboyhooters said: AOC and Omar are a bunch of socialist radicals i would imagine that a political party would not want to back someone who is a massive radical, They literally just tried to primary AOC. And Omar. And Talib. Poured millions of dollars into their challengers and failed. They do NOT want what they see as "radicals" in the party. They're trying to get rid of Ed Markey in Mass right now too. while they may not be propping up Aoc and omar they are still tolerating such a far left radical presence in their party which says alot about the party itself. .....They're not tolerating it. They are actively trying to push them out. They can't LEGALLY kick them out of the party without constituents VOTING them out during a primary. Please learn how the government works |
SargonTheGreat said: Femboyhooters said: I mean im not american so I try my best but dems are leftwing neolibs lmao.....They're not tolerating it. They are actively trying to push them out. They can't LEGALLY kick them out of the party without constituents VOTING them out during a primary. Please learn how the government works Neolibs are center-right |
SargonTheGreat said: no neolibs are left wing since they are pro-immigration and pro-socialjustice, center right would be conservatives not neolibs Neoliberals are capitalists. Capitalism and leftism do not and cannot coexist. You're just making shit up at this point |
SargonTheGreat said: Femboyhooters said: No things like social democracy and heavy welfare capitalism exist which are left wing. I think your the one who is spewing nonsense.Neoliberals are capitalists. Capitalism and leftism do not and cannot coexist. You're just making shit up at this point Those are in the center, not on left. They are TO the left of conservatives but they aren't on the left. |
| See, this is why I don’t bother with these types of threads... ZERO value is in effect here. I’m not gonna defend crazy people saying crazy things... And I’m not gonna explain to my Right-Wing fans why their assertions are WRONG yet again. My initial post on this issue was sufficient. |
SargonTheGreat said: Femboyhooters said: social democracy and welfare capitalism isnt centrist stop deluding yourself lmao you must be a commie or something if you think capitalism with extensive social benefits and safety nets/ubi is anything but left wing.Those are in the center, not on left. They are TO the left of conservatives but they aren't on the left. Consider myself more of a socialist |
Femboyhooters said: SargonTheGreat said: democratic socialism isnt left? free healthcare isnt left? higher taxes isnt left? imagine believing the lie that america has its overton window shifted all the way to the right, thats not the case its quite the opposite actually while socialists can fit their views into the acceptable category and even the popular category people on the right who believe in a drastically smaller state or drastically lower taxes and no more social benefits arent represented and are labelled psychopaths. The democratic party as a whole is to the center right. They overwhemingly voted against including medicare for all and the green new deal in their platform. Democratic socialists are the minority in the party. Those of us on the actual left despise Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, etc. I'm not sure what fantasy land you're living in but I wish I was there. Center right??? Oh my god... You guys are legitimately insane. This is the kind of stuff that actual centrists should be freaked out by. Please for the love of God do not think for a second that appeasement is going to work on these people. They have completely and utterly lost their minds. [quote=Bob-o-Dominador message=60496293] Ryuk9428 said: I didn't say anything about healthcare, I said racial reparations is extreme. I was talking about Healt care earlyer, you called me and the enterety of Dems extremists, I'm point out that the most extreme thing out there isn't extreme at all, the polices of Trump and your's are extreme. Not to mention that Reparations aren't extreme neither. What do you think reparations are? Do you that a BLM agent will go to your door take your money and give it to Obama? Investment in private schools, Schoolarships, food banks, health care ans so much more are reparations - And those polices don't even need to be target by race, because since targeting the poor would target black people more, closing the whealt gap. Ryuk9428 said: Its very simple Auron. Progressive policies and ideas create single motherhood. Single motherhood creates crime. Crime creates poverty. Ofc, because there wasn't dead/nonpresent/jerk dads before leftism, and leftism only affect black people! Black people and white people are just as likely to have single motherhood if theiy are in the same situation. But black people actually have more because they are in a worse place thanks to slavery. Porvety make single moms, beliving other wise is literally unsientific. But you, ofc, don't care about all of sociology, psicology or anthropology. What? Free healthcare is not the most extreme thing being pushed by the Democrats. Free healthcare is fucking child's play compared to half the things they are doing now. The most extreme things being pushed by the Democrats are... - Affirmative action for healthcare. Kamala Harris literally thinks black people should be given preferential treatment for healthcare. - Racial reparations (which you apparently think is totally chill). - Defunding the police - Legalizing racial discrimination in California so they can discriminate against whites and asians. - Late stage abortions where a woman can abort a baby the moment before birth. - The entire idea of non-binary genders because that isn't legitimate science. - Literally believing that black people just shouldn't be arrested or prosecuted for crimes. The Democrat Party mayors are refusing to enforce the law in cities that they run and are releasing seriously violent criminals hours after their arrest. - Arresting citizens for self-defense. - Enforcing cancel culture and trying to eliminate all opposition to their party. |
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Femboyhooters said: SargonTheGreat said: democratic socialism isnt left? free healthcare isnt left? higher taxes isnt left? imagine believing the lie that america has its overton window shifted all the way to the right, thats not the case its quite the opposite actually while socialists can fit their views into the acceptable category and even the popular category people on the right who believe in a drastically smaller state or drastically lower taxes and no more social benefits arent represented and are labelled psychopaths. The democratic party as a whole is to the center right. They overwhemingly voted against including medicare for all and the green new deal in their platform. Democratic socialists are the minority in the party. Those of us on the actual left despise Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, etc. I'm not sure what fantasy land you're living in but I wish I was there. Center right??? Oh my god... You guys are legitimately insane. This is the kind of stuff that actual centrists should be freaked out by. Please for the love of God do not think for a second that appeasement is going to work on these people. They have completely and utterly lost their minds. Bob-o-Dominador said: Ryuk9428 said: I didn't say anything about healthcare, I said racial reparations is extreme. I was talking about Healt care earlyer, you called me and the enterety of Dems extremists, I'm point out that the most extreme thing out there isn't extreme at all, the polices of Trump and your's are extreme. Not to mention that Reparations aren't extreme neither. What do you think reparations are? Do you that a BLM agent will go to your door take your money and give it to Obama? Investment in private schools, Schoolarships, food banks, health care ans so much more are reparations - And those polices don't even need to be target by race, because since targeting the poor would target black people more, closing the whealt gap. Ryuk9428 said: Its very simple Auron. Progressive policies and ideas create single motherhood. Single motherhood creates crime. Crime creates poverty. Ofc, because there wasn't dead/nonpresent/jerk dads before leftism, and leftism only affect black people! Black people and white people are just as likely to have single motherhood if theiy are in the same situation. But black people actually have more because they are in a worse place thanks to slavery. Porvety make single moms, beliving other wise is literally unsientific. But you, ofc, don't care about all of sociology, psicology or anthropology. What? Free healthcare is not the most extreme thing being pushed by the Democrats. Free healthcare is fucking child's play compared to half the things they are doing now. The most extreme things being pushed by the Democrats are... - Affirmative action for healthcare. Kamala Harris literally thinks black people should be given preferential treatment for healthcare. - Racial reparations (which you apparently think is totally chill). - Defunding the police - Legalizing racial discrimination in California so they can discriminate against whites and asians. - Late stage abortions where a woman can abort a baby the moment before birth. - The entire idea of non-binary genders because that isn't legitimate science. - Literally believing that black people just shouldn't be arrested or prosecuted for crimes. The Democrat Party mayors are refusing to enforce the law in cities that they run and are releasing seriously violent criminals hours after their arrest. - Arresting citizens for self-defense. - Enforcing cancel culture and trying to eliminate all opposition to their party. You really need to get laid dude |
Hanabi-tanAug 21, 2020 1:48 PM
Ryuk9428 said: What? Free healthcare is not the most extreme thing being pushed by the Democrats. Free healthcare is fucking child's play compared to half the things they are doing now. The most extreme things being pushed by the Democrats are... - Affirmative action for healthcare. Kamala Harris literally thinks black people should be given preferential treatment for healthcare. - Racial reparations (which you apparently think is totally chill). - Defunding the police - Legalizing racial discrimination in California so they can discriminate against whites and asians. - Late stage abortions where a woman can abort a baby the moment before birth. - The entire idea of non-binary genders because that isn't legitimate science. - Literally believing that black people just shouldn't be arrested or prosecuted for crimes. The Democrat Party mayors are refusing to enforce the law in cities that they run and are releasing seriously violent criminals hours after their arrest. - Arresting citizens for self-defense. - Enforcing cancel culture and trying to eliminate all opposition to their party. ---> Biden and the Establishment (DNC) do NOT want free healthcare....they listen to their Donor Masters, which in this case is the Insurance companies, TRUST ME, the U.S will NEVER have universal heathcare because there is too much money to be lost. ---> "Defunding" the police is NOT what you might think....no one is crazy enough to actually want any city to be ran with no police force, the "defunding" thing is about allocating the extra budget that Police forces constantly abuse to be placed elsewhere, primarily on communities. ---> Legalizing racial discrimination? C'mon NO one is saying that. ---> Aborting a baby right before birth? Who is advocating that? I have literally never heard of that. ---> Non-Binary genders....Let's pretend for ONE second that we changed things and allowed more than two genders....in what way would that harm a society? For the record, I'm NOT saying I agree or disagree....I just want to know how saying that there are more than 2 genders harms a society. ---> I wanna see proof that the DNC is saying they no longer want to arrest black people... --->"Cancel Culture" The funny thing about this is that you MIGHT be right here...the DNC for the second time in a row "CANCELLED" Bernie and his movement.... Whether you want to believe it or not, the DNC are NOT "radical leftists" that is a JOKE. They are more aligned towards the Center than any REAL "Left" would be. |
--ALEX-- said: Ryuk9428 said: What? Free healthcare is not the most extreme thing being pushed by the Democrats. Free healthcare is fucking child's play compared to half the things they are doing now. The most extreme things being pushed by the Democrats are... - Affirmative action for healthcare. Kamala Harris literally thinks black people should be given preferential treatment for healthcare. - Racial reparations (which you apparently think is totally chill). - Defunding the police - Legalizing racial discrimination in California so they can discriminate against whites and asians. - Late stage abortions where a woman can abort a baby the moment before birth. - The entire idea of non-binary genders because that isn't legitimate science. - Literally believing that black people just shouldn't be arrested or prosecuted for crimes. The Democrat Party mayors are refusing to enforce the law in cities that they run and are releasing seriously violent criminals hours after their arrest. - Arresting citizens for self-defense. - Enforcing cancel culture and trying to eliminate all opposition to their party. ---> Biden and the Establishment (DNC) do NOT want free healthcare....they listen to their Donor Masters, which in this case is the Insurance companies, TRUST ME, the U.S will NEVER have universal heathcare because there is too much money to be lost. ---> "Defunding" the police is NOT what you might think....no one is crazy enough to actually want any city to be ran with no police force, the "defunding" thing is about allocating the extra budget that Police forces constantly abuse to be placed elsewhere, primarily on communities. ---> Legalizing racial discrimination? C'mon NO one is saying that. ---> Aborting a baby right before birth? Who is advocating that? I have literally never heard of that. ---> Non-Binary genders....Let's pretend for ONE second that we changed things and allowed more than two genders....in what way would that harm a society? For the record, I'm NOT saying I agree or disagree....I just want to know how saying that there are more than 2 genders harms a society. ---> I wanna see proof that the DNC is saying they no longer want to arrest black people... --->"Cancel Culture" The funny thing about this is that you MIGHT be right here...the DNC for the second time in a row "CANCELLED" Bernie and his movement.... Whether you want to believe it or not, the DNC are NOT "radical leftists" that is a JOKE. They are more aligned towards the Center than any REAL "Left" would be. And why do you think the police have the budgets that they do? Its because a large and well equipped police force is necessary to keep crime under control. The cities that have defunded the police in the wake of the riots have become an absolute disaster. Chicago may be seeing its most homicidal year in almost three decades. Bill De Blasio is pretty much single-handedly ruining New York City which used to be one of the safest cities in America. - Let me introduce to you... Proposition 16 in California https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_16,_Repeal_Proposition_209_Affirmative_Action_Amendment_(2020) - The vice president pick who will probably end up being president supports it. https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-adds-abortion-extremism-to-democratic-presidential-ticket/ Even the Washington Post seems to be freaked out by the fact that live birth abortions were literally legalized in New York recently and Virginia governor Northam seemed to be in support of that. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/abortion-extremism-in-new-york-and-virginia-paved-the-way-for-alabama-and-georgias-laws/2019/05/17/ffad643a-78f0-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766_story.html Notice how this following local newspaper is being so vague about what the law Andrew Cuomo signed would really do? Even if you were aware of what the article is saying, you have to look at it fairly closely to realize what they are actually saying. https://www.rochestercitynewspaper.com/rochester/senate-passes-abortion-rights-bill-assembly-likely-to-follow/Content?oid=9371109 - Because we shouldn't allow people to identify as genders that don't exist and we certainly shouldn't expect other people to refer to them using weird pronouns. - Look at every Democrat run city right now. Almost all the Democrat mayors in cities like Seattle, Portland, NYC, Chicago, and Atlanta are refusing to enforce the law. They may not be outright saying "don't arrest black people" but in practice that's exactly what they are doing. We've literally got attempted homicide suspects being released without bail hours after being arrested. https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/nyc-releases-attempted-murder-suspect-without-bail-feds-step-in-and-arrest-him/ Either you guys sincerely don't understand what your party has been up to lately or you're gaslighting us, but you really need to take our claims seriously when we say the Democrat Party has become extreme in recent years. And let's not forget about Nick Sandmann, a 15 year old kid who's life the leftist media tried to destroy. What they did was so outrageous that Sandmann actually managed to successfully sue a couple media outlets and is suing several others and WON. Do you know how hard it is to sue a media organization and win? After the Nick Sandmann incident is when I really realized how morally bankrupt a lot of people on the left have become. I used to think they were misguided or were just in denial about the extreme side of their party but what the leftist media organizations did to Nick Sandmann crossed a huge line for me. That was when I realized that there were no moral lows that the media and Democratic politicians wouldn't stoop to in order to beat Trump. |
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| it's so disappointing how quickly mal's racists flock towards any bone they are given, without realizing greater implications |
hverfa said: Injun/White are beyond crazy insane. Like you know how crazy regular White Americans are? Much worse.it's so disappointing how quickly mal's racists flock towards any bone they are given, without realizing greater implications |
| For those interested in learning more about the idea of reparations I'd recommend reading this article. Before I read it, I though the idea was absolutely ridiculous. After reading it, I could clearly see that there was a problem and that reparations is a possible solution to the problem. I'm still leery of the idea, but I don't think it's complete insanity. |
| Every day you can read a book or watch some anime is a good day! |
| you cant just go and steal people's home because your people used to live their a long time ago...just like israel has to get the fuck out of palestine cuz it doesnt belong to them, same thing here.. |
AmatnikiAug 16, 2020 8:41 PM
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| Everyone is responsible for themselves & should act like it. BLM continues to loot, riot, commit arson, disrupt business, damage private and public property, & commit assault. They are making their own towns into impoverished trashcans with poor living conditions on their own volition, and they expect the government to fix everything. Hilarious. Whatever message of goodwill/justice/equality (which I was on-board with, especially regarding the conduct of US police) they had has been squandered. |
o----o said: The only thing I will say is that if BLM and all the rioters were there for something good, they would have publicly denounced any radicals, antifa, any looters, anyone who carries weapons at the riots, anything that happens in Portland and all of the media's propaganda that is simply racist. If BLM was about equality, it would have been called "Black Lives Matter Too" not "Black Lives Matter". It's shocking to me how white people go to those riots and really believe into this propaganda when BLM is anti-white in its core. And when anyone says "All Lives Matter", they act as if blacks are not everyone and need special treatment. That's the book example of racism - "everyone is equal, but someone is more equal". It's so deep into our minds that we feel the need to always explain ourselves when saying "All Lives Matter" and say "blacks are all, too". That's how bad it is and that's how much the propaganda is affecting everyone. BLM is a political party and the only goal it has is to gain power. Even the co-founder said they are "trained marxists". Salvatia said: Everyone is responsible for themselves & should act like it. BLM continues to loot, riot, commit arson, disrupt business, damage private and public property, & commit assault. They are making their own towns into impoverished trashcans with poor living conditions on their own volition, and they expect the government to fix everything. Hilarious. Whatever message of goodwill/justice/equality (which I was on-board with, especially regarding the conduct of US police) they had has been squandered. I agree but be careful writing that anywhere on the Internet. I've been banned on Discord, Reddit, ResetEra and some other places for saying the same things. They also have this system of censorship on Youtube, Twitter and any major social media you can think of... where if you send a message that the auto-check system sees as "wrong", they'll hide it from public's view. On Twitter and Facebook it can be seen but you need to manually show these comments each time you want to look at them. Most people don't do that, obviously. Discord, in particular, is the worst. I've seen various servers openly promote antifa propaganda and if you, again, dare call riots "riots", looting "looting" or mention that George Floyd was high on drugs or bring up any real evidence (like the leaked camera footage from policeman's chest which showed Floyd being treated like a princess), not "racism can only be white" or "I know because I feel it" - they'll ban and then mark your account for discord general moderation. gaussian_ said: For those interested in learning more about the idea of reparations I'd recommend reading this article. Before I read it, I though the idea was absolutely ridiculous. After reading it, I could clearly see that there was a problem and that reparations is a possible solution to the problem. I'm still leery of the idea, but I don't think it's complete insanity. Don't let propaganda to brainwash you. Just like one of the criminals shouted at riots - "we've got the media behind us". All of those "articles" are written with one and only goal - to make everyone feel guilty. Equality is never about giving one side more than another. If black people can find work in the south of USA, live peacefully where it's supposed to be "the worst" for them - there is no injustice. I'm not even going to mention cities like New York and the rest.. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo - this person showcases the riots without any of the propaganda. It's all propaganda. There are problems with the police force but it should've started and ended with that. It shouldn't have ever gotten to the point where it's at now. All this is doing is making the real racists angrier and creating new ones. This whole BLM thing will just further divide people to the point where things will just implode on itself. |
Bob-o-Dominador said: @Ryuk9428 See this is why Republicans are freaking out right now. Because half of the Democrat Party at this point has moved far left and you guys don't even realize it because of the echo-chamber you've created for yourselves. You guys suggest ideas that are absolutely insane and don't even realize how insane they sound because your party has legitimized and made them mainstream. Ah, yes, the extreme far left idea of public healt care, so "insane" that it have been implemented in the vast majority of the world (and the best parts of it) and it is working in all of them, that is what you are afraid of?  How is the idea of implamatating that politc "insane"? To me it only seems that you are so deep inside YOUR eccho chamber that you just assume that the opposition ideas are wrong by default, hell you didn't even argued with me you just called me "insane". Face reality: Almost every country in the world have bouth left and rigth politcs, your ideal society where there is basically none social assisntence is the extreme, but having bearly enogh to keep people alive isn't. Far left would mean things like communism, Services being runned by coops, high UBI, dismantling of Private Institutions and so on. If "I don't want to be as good as death because of my unpayble medical bills" was far left them everyone would want to be far left, I don't have fault that your political ideologies are basically feudalism. Im from one of these dark green countries, and you are talking through your ass, you pay for "free" healthcare and its called TAXES plus you dont want "free" healthcare, because it means shitty healthcare that you are forced to pay for, it is basicaly signing your own death sentence by depending exclusively on it, the majority of the population pay for private healthcare while being forced to pay heavier taxes because of the public health sistem, that FAILS to work a lot of the time. You are basicaly gambling with your life by trusting in the public sistem, due to the garbage service they offer. I mean, a pacient with suspect of cancer might have to wait 6 months to a year to do some exams.....Its ridiculous. |
TougenAug 16, 2020 10:04 PM
Tougen said: Bob-o-Dominador said: @Ryuk9428 See this is why Republicans are freaking out right now. Because half of the Democrat Party at this point has moved far left and you guys don't even realize it because of the echo-chamber you've created for yourselves. You guys suggest ideas that are absolutely insane and don't even realize how insane they sound because your party has legitimized and made them mainstream. Ah, yes, the extreme far left idea of public healt care, so "insane" that it have been implemented in the vast majority of the world (and the best parts of it) and it is working in all of them, that is what you are afraid of? How is the idea of implamatating that politc "insane"? To me it only seems that you are so deep inside YOUR eccho chamber that you just assume that the opposition ideas are wrong by default, hell you didn't even argued with me you just called me "insane". Face reality: Almost every country in the world have bouth left and rigth politcs, your ideal society where there is basically none social assisntence is the extreme, but having bearly enogh to keep people alive isn't. Far left would mean things like communism, Services being runned by coops, high UBI, dismantling of Private Institutions and so on. If "I don't want to be as good as death because of my unpayble medical bills" was far left them everyone would want to be far left, I don't have fault that your political ideologies are basically feudalism. Im from one of these dark green countries, and you are talking through your ass, you pay for "free" healthcare and its called TAXES plus you dont want "free" healthcare, because it means shitty healthcare that you are forced to pay for, it is basicaly signing your own death sentence by depending exclusively on it, soo people with money will pay private healthcare and leave the poor people to the butcher doctors in the public sistem. From the perspective of an American, we pay taxes but it goes to a government that spends $686 billion on its military AND we have to pay for our own healthcare. So pragmatically, the best solution when dedicating scarce resources for the public interest is to have a tax payer funded healthcare system instead of an overly inflated military budget and other wasted government spending. At the end of the day, we all have to spend money to get healthcare and we have to pay taxes, but I'd rather pay taxes to get something useful in my daily life like healthcare instead of paying double for the same result. The US's problem is a lack of efficiency. Additionally, the quality of your country's healthcare system is entirely dependent on education, funding, infrastructure, and competent labor; and in the case of the US having a public healthcare system wouldn't mean "butcher doctors" due to the country's medical, technological, and economic advancements. So unfortunately for poorer countries, richer countries will always have better healthcare no matter how you slice it. |
it's over | we're so back | don't take this too seriously |
o----o said: Zeroflamez said: It's all propaganda. There are problems with the police force but it should've started and ended with that. It shouldn't have ever gotten to the point where it's at now. All this is doing is making the real racists angrier and creating new ones. This whole BLM thing will just further divide people to the point where things will just implode on itself. The Twitter account I linked is not propaganda. No one on the media is going to show those things, just like they are not showing the real evidence - autopsy report, bodycam footage, witnesses etc. The only thing they do is push racist propaganda and brainwash men and women to think that "all injustice is white". I wasn't referring to your twitter link. |
| @Ryuk9428 Kamla Harris being in favor of aborting babys rigth before birth is a terrible lie, not only there is no quotations of her saying that but the polices that she chase after are against it. Harris co-sponsored Women's Health Protection Act Congressional summary:: Women's Health Protection Act: makes the following limitations concerning abortion services unlawful and prohibits their imposition or application by any government: a requirement that a medical professional perform specific tests, unless generally required in the case of medically comparable procedures; a limitation on an abortion provider's ability to delegate tasks; a limitation on an abortion provider's ability to prescribe or dispense drugs based on her or his good-faith medical judgment; a requirement or limitation concerning the physical plant, equipment, staffing, or hospital transfer arrangements; a requirement that, prior to obtaining an abortion, a woman make medically unnecessary visits to the provider of abortion services or to any individual or entity that does not provide such services; a prohibition or ban prior to fetal viability That lie probably originates from Harris oposition to the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act that was made with the intention of changing the definition of fetal viability to after week 20 instead of after week 24 as it is today, but guess what? That is not how words works. |
No-a-nimeAug 16, 2020 10:30 PM
| heh. |
| Ahhhh yes. Because years ago the whites stole land and to settle everything, we will force people who have nothing to do with it give up their homes because we can't afford nice ones. Stupidest shit I've ever seen |
Tougen said: Im from one of these dark green countries, and you are talking through your ass, you pay for "free" healthcare and its called TAXES plus you dont want "free" healthcare, because it means shitty healthcare that you are forced to pay for, it is basicaly signing your own death sentence by depending exclusively on it, the majority of the population pay for private healthcare while being forced to pay heavier taxes because of the public health sistem, that FAILS to work a lot of the time. You are basicaly gambling with your life by trusting in the public sistem, due to the garbage service they offer. I mean, a pacient with suspect of cancer might have to wait 6 months to a year to do some exams.....Its ridiculous. I'm also from one of those those dark green countrys, I'm not talking from my ass and I do want universal free health care. In the worst case scenario you pay your taxes but never needs to use it, in the best case scenario you are poor, get cancer, go trough medical treatments that wouldn't be able to pay otherwise, survives AND don't go bankrupt. As for gambling I will tell you what really is gambling: You are an US citzen, you got in an car accident, now you have two choices: Go to the hospital to check if everything is okay and pay an extremely large bill or follow your guts and hope that it isn't that bad. If you chosed the first one you will have to pay alot of money independent of your body needing or not needing treatments. If you chose the last one you don't need to pay anything! but maybe you will discover latter down in the line that you actually needed to make that hospital visit and doing it now is even more costy. Literaly High stakes high rewards, maybe republicans like to live on the edge, huh? deg said: lots of few incidents posting here this is why anecdotal incident news should not fill up MAL overall statistics like survey of BLM sentiments will be a better news for this too much overgeneralization of few incidents ...Okay, that is actually one of the best response to this topic. |
No-a-nimeAug 16, 2020 11:04 PM
| heh. |
o----o said: SargonTheGreat said: No ambition or willingness to try in life will do that to ya, why do you think they support such extreme ideologies like communism and socialism, they refuse to put in the bare minimum and then have the nerve to envy the one who trained day and night. Sadly. guych said: Ahhhh yes. Because years ago the whites stole land and to settle everything, we will force people who have nothing to do with it give up their homes because we can't afford nice ones. Stupidest shit I've ever seen It's not like they can't afford new ones. Black people are employed on any jobs you can think of: from retail to Hollywood and from small scale politics to presidents. I see more white people talking about not being able to find a job than black. I'm just responding back to you and I know it sounds racist and hatred towards blacks but that is not my intention. If they had good jobs, then they wouldn't be trying to take their homes. Plus, then they best not be complaining about racial inequality if they have good jobs. |
o----o said: guych said: I'm just responding back to you and I know it sounds racist and hatred towards blacks but that is not my intention. If they had good jobs, then they wouldn't be trying to take their homes. Plus, then they best not be complaining about racial inequality if they have good jobs. It doesn't sound racist or hatred, what are you talking about? But yeah, I agree with you. I hope that more people will see what's wrong with the whole SJW thing after these riots. I honestly have more sympathy towards blacks who push the racial inequality rather than the white SJW who back them and infect the media, the culture with this propaganda. I honestly don’t even care about the whole BLM but when black people are trying to do the same things to white people, I just find it sad. They say white people are bad for doing those things to them but then they go do the same things. But whatever, they’ll just try to justify by saying “they did it first” |
o----o said: guych said: I honestly don’t even care about the whole BLM but when black people are trying to do the same things to white people, I just find it sad. They say white people are bad for doing those things to them but then they go do the same things. But whatever, they’ll just try to justify by saying “they did it first” Indeed. They're not there for justice or to fix inequality. It's just chaos and wanting to feel the power. Like that video of black people smashing police cars, hijacking radio, wanting to kill the family of the cop who "killed" Floyd (even though he didn't and there was evidence before, even more of it now). By the way, it's ironic that a lot of this footage - none of them wear any masks. I guess coronavirus doesn't affect some people? XD The whole thing with masks is so silly at this point. Should we wear them? Yeah, it's inadequate to not wear a mask during the global pandemic. Japanese and Asians in general wear it all the time during flu seasons... but they made this mask thing into a "are you with us or against us?". And then you see the footage of rioters - no masks. Exactly, it’s like “feel bad for us and give us more because we are treated differently or else you are considered racist.” And I find it pointless, no matter what anyone does, racial inequality will still exist. It’s not gonna go away. People out here are actually trying to get rid of hatred by committing crimes or standing outside with a sign. Like for sure black people don’t deserve the shit they have to go through but then again, it’s just not realistic to remove hatred from every single person in this world |
Ryuk9428 said: See this is why Republicans are freaking out right now. Because half of the Democrat Party at this point has moved far left and you guys don't even realize it because of the echo-chamber you've created for yourselves. You guys suggest ideas that are absolutely insane and don't even realize how insane they sound because your party has legitimized and made them mainstream. There is a clear division in the Democrat party right now. The far left don't have the numbers and support to push their radical ideas. However, the other side needs those individuals, and can't simply dismiss them. There is a reason why the #WalkAway movement about leaving the Dems continues to gain traction. Because those classic liberals and moderate democrats have felt that the party has left them. Some people are waking up. African-Americans have realized that the Dems give nothing but empty promises and use them for votes. Realizing that Trump has done more for them in 4 years than Obama did in 8. We see democrat led cities that have restrained the police, imposed wealth taxes, allowed rioting, go up in flames. Some people are smart enough to realize that just because it's not happening in your city, doesn't mean your day won't come. It's obvious who has supported law and order and who hasn't. You are literally talking about taking people's hard earned money away from them on the basis of their skin color and giving it to other people on the basis of skin color. You are talking about defunding emergency services (police) and making it difficult for them to operate. Many of you seem utterly complicit in the fact that people's lives are being ruined just because they oppose the policies you want. But I'm sure that you'll excuse that by saying anyone who opposes BLM is a racist who deserved it. It sounds good on paper. It really does. Wanting to assist black people that have still felt the rippling effect of past injustices. But when we look at it through a different lens it comes off a bit different. Essentially with reparations we are having people pay for a debt that was incurred not through their own actions and often times before they were even born. And then it's like there are so many questions. Is every black individual getting this or is it per family..? How do we determine what a fair amount is? Who gets to determine this? Where is the money going to come from? If your family is now interracial with white does that mean it cancels itself out..? Are we just going to throw money at education or attempt to "reform" the criminal justice system as reparations..? Is that actually going to make a difference when a common menality in their communities are; Fuck school, Fuck the police, and everything is against me. Maybe the solution is to go after the issues and mentalities that continue to drag them further into the gutter.. But that's just me. Attacking the heart of the issue and not looking for a bandaid solution.. o----o said: The only thing I will say is that if BLM and all the rioters were there for something good, they would have publicly denounced any radicals. This is huge and you are absolutely correct. I mentioned that before in the large Portland topic. If those protestors were truly peaceful by a large majority then it should've been easy to get the violent minority to stand down.. You see someone with fireworks, dangerous lasers or any other signal that would indicate they aren't peaceful..? You tell them that this is a peaceful protest and they need to put that shit away. They aren't going to stick around if they are shamed and denounced.. It was pure chaos.. nothing more. Unfortunately there are just some people that feel the need to take the "anti-trump" stance no matter the circumstance. Violent protestors destroying buisnesses, setting fires, and hurting people? No worries the media gave you an out! You can hyper focus on their cooked up "Trump's secret police kidnapping random people". Perhaps they would change their tune if the violence came to their doorstep.. but then again I doubt it. There are mayors and other political figures of various cities that continue to support the radical group even after their own property is damaged. There is no reaching people by appealing to common sense... Folks have just dug their heels and it really just makes things worse. |
JFujiAug 16, 2020 11:57 PM
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| Guess it's time to pay more to officers for some overtime |
| شقایق، اینجا من، خیلی غریبم |
| Gentrification is a valid issue to talk about, though taking out your anger on the homeowners seems a bit much. Though ngl, right wing weebs really give me second hand embarrassment. This is one of the reasons anime fans get a bad rep |
LeMastaAug 17, 2020 9:55 AM
Wharf said: Media Bias/Fact Check is honestly such a retarded website lmao apparently SocalistWorker, AngryWhiteMen, and fricking SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTRE are highly factual sources. SPLC. Lmao. Talk about being a useless and untrustworthy site that is not to be taken seriously by anybody with a functioning brain. It's just a site run by a far-leftie propping up other far left organizations while masquerading as an "impartial" source. Didn't the SPLC guy literally have a bulletin in his room of the white population of the United States from the early 1900s till now? what a joke kek Also, isn't Seattle the headquarters of all those bleeding heart liberal white people I hear so much about? I wonder how they feel about this lmao. Give them your houses, ladies and gentlemen. You wouldn't want to be thought of as *gasp* racist, now, would you? Literally what are you talking about? SPLC has black supremacy groups listed as hate groups on their site. |
| why must there always be people who ruin an otherwise good cause... things like this are the reason that people think protestors aren't doing the right thing. so many people are just protesting for what's right and then some dumbasses have to come along and ruin it all... |
| Blm supporters: https://twitter.com/russomanchu/status/1295337485711572992?s=19 Nothing to say about that. |
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Wharf said: Media Bias/Fact Check is honestly such a retarded website lmao apparently SocalistWorker, AngryWhiteMen, and fricking SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTRE are highly factual sources. SPLC. Lmao. Talk about being a useless and untrustworthy site that is not to be taken seriously by anybody with a functioning brain. It's just a site run by a far-leftie propping up other far left organizations while masquerading as an "impartial" source. Didn't the SPLC guy literally have a bulletin in his room of the white population of the United States from the early 1900s till now? what a joke kek Also, isn't Seattle the headquarters of all those bleeding heart liberal white people I hear so much about? I wonder how they feel about this lmao. Give them your houses, ladies and gentlemen. You wouldn't want to be thought of as *gasp* racist, now, would you? Yup that website is a joke. They also consider Feminist Frequency and Anita Sarkeesian to be highly accurate source lol. Even on wikipedia it's states that "Media Bias/Fact Check is a widely cited source for news stories and even studies about misinformation, despite the fact that its method is in no way scientific." It's no different than anyone of us stating our own opinion which site is accurate and which isn't. I also like how some people around here like to pretend that event didn't happen or it doesn't matter if it's not covered by regressive approved media source. |
 “There is great satisfaction in fighting for the sake of gaining power, but it’s joyless to fight for the sake of maintaining it.” – Reinhard Von Lohengramm |
| white people are the reason why they can live off of their welfare tho |
| I'm a strong supporter of capitalism because literally every corporation in existence is supporting this. It's like how I support George Soros cause he supports Vuic in Serbia whose buying Chinese weapons and Huawei. |
faridog204Aug 17, 2020 7:53 PM
--ALEX-- said: Cool story. No one takes it seriously. Or do you think a few crazy idiots speaks for EVERYONE? Here’s what I like about this type of “my team vs the other team” mentality. When the other team has a few crazies, the ENTIRE “team” is crazy. When YOUR team has a few crazies....it’s just a few bad apples...NOT ALL WHITE people are racist! But whatever, I’m fine with calling out crazy people out, yes, these a crazy people, I think we can agree on that. Did you see his other thread? The OP the same guy who said "All blacks want to start a war with non black people they hate jews and whites and asians and latinos." LMFAO. |
Bayek said: traed said: So, who do you think has 2,000+ years of history with usury and predatory money lending practices? Is it the English? The Swedes? The Dutch? The entrepreneurship conceived of by the American founders was not the capitalism & corporatism that we see today.Yeah capitalism is all about being entitled to other people's labour that's what a capitalist business is some guy on top taking proffit from other people's labour. It's wage slavery. To top it off gentrification means to push people out of their property by making living there not affordable for them anymore due to predatory real estate and development practices. You shoud know already It's so obvious. Just look the evidence... |
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Ryuk9428 said: Progressive policies and ideas create single motherhood. Single motherhood creates crime. Crime creates poverty. that is probably the most retarded string of false logic i have seen all day. so by that logic everyone who's dad dies before there mother are criminals by that string of logic? dad died when i was 8ish (so long ago i don't even remember exactly how old i was.) mother raised me from then on haven't committed a single crime unless you count watching anime (not downloading.) online a crime. (which means basically everyone on this site is a criminal by that logic.) same goes for my older sibling. deg said: lots of few incidents posting here this is why anecdotal incident news should not fill up MAL overall statistics like survey of BLM sentiments will be a better news for this too much overgeneralization of few incidents this thread is a prime example of why rule 7 was made in the first place. people (mainly nyu and alterius.) would dreg up the most obscure incident's that many of which weren't even current and spam them over the forums and try to use them to make claims on an entire race and it would just turn into a long ass flame war thread. (which this thread is quickly becoming.) @Bernrika i don't think Ryuk is a nazi or anywhere close to it. a bit ignorant when it comes to how the past affects the present? maybe, but i don't seem him advocating for mass serialization of all afician americans and sending people death threats in PM's like Alterius was. or trying to defend litteral regimes like china and nazi germany like Nyu does constantly. |
GrimAtramentAug 18, 2020 1:56 AM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| We should do something about the Irish, they elected Saudi Arabia of all nations to judge women's rights. They and Belgium, the most evil nation in existence. |
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