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Jan 28, 2020 5:20 PM

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any not important character magic knight always use the super duper uninteresting magic to defend against any threat.

seen a lot of these in Naruto's ninja war and I feel annoyed with it and the same thing happened in Black Clover....
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Jan 28, 2020 7:09 PM
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ReegrezSNK said:
I think answer its simple , if Black Clover would be made by Ufotable for example , it could be praised like KNY is .
Yeah, people just care about the animation nowadays

MAYOIII said:
it is imo
as a shounen its mediocre at best
predictable outcomes of battles, poor soundtracks and voice acting, generic character design, even more generic combat system, overall uninspired story
i would gladly give it a 5 if I am to be lenient
“Poor soundtrack” are you deaf?

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Jan 28, 2020 7:35 PM

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TheAmbassador said:
ReegrezSNK said:
I think answer its simple , if Black Clover would be made by Ufotable for example , it could be praised like KNY is .
Yeah, people just care about the animation nowadays


Its not the team behind Black Clover's fault, but the animation is hilariously bad and its very noticeable too. I'm surprised they were able to make it this far with little to no help so I can appreciate their passion at least. The studio is mainly focusing on Boruto and Black Clover get the worst end of the shit stick. I feel bad for the people working on this series.

I feel like if any other studio like Ufotable got Black Clover it probably would've gotten one 26 episode season and that would be it cause I don't think its as popular in Japan as the other titles in SJ like KnY and My Hero. I could be wrong though. Sure it would've been higher quality, but I think people would still hate on it based on its generic start it does not get REALLY good until around episode 44 at least for me. I'm honestly surprised I didn't drop Black Clover, but I hung in there and now its one of my favorite Jump series...well the manga at least.
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Jan 29, 2020 6:28 AM

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Its painfully medicore. It may not be as bad as Seven Deadly Sins, Boruto and Fairy Tail but its still a empty shell of shounen in terms of productions.
Sure the elf/black devil arc its leagues better than the previous arcs but in order to get to the that arc you have sit throughout almost 85 episodes of mediocrity.
It didn't help that the visuals, soundtrack and pacing were atrocious completely screwing the competent writing of Black
Also the anime butchers a lot of scenes and content.
Its a shame because I really like most of the characters as well the world-building and power system
I liked the manga but the anime is just poorly directed mess.

I hope the show ends after this arc because I don't want to see this poorly managed adaptation become Filleruto 2.0.
TV Tokyo needs to let this show go and rest for a while.
Jan 29, 2020 10:03 AM
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Used to hate the anime until 50 episodes later. I cant believe people still find asta’s voice annoying and didnt bother to continue to watch. It isnt that bad later on.
Jan 29, 2020 10:11 AM

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BryanLovesAnime said:
Used to hate the anime until 50 episodes later. I cant believe people still find asta’s voice annoying and didnt bother to continue to watch. It isnt that bad later on.


I literally got used to his voice by episode 2. It took me by surprise at first, but I understood that was supposed to be his characters and started to find it funny. And when he entered the black bull around episode 6-8 or so he drastically toned down his voice and by the episode 13 he significantly stopped being annoying.

So yes, the criticism of Asta having annoying voice doesn't hold water.
Jan 29, 2020 10:31 AM

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Well, it is not bad but it is close to bad because it has the same type of shit like Naruto and Bleach so people are kind of fed up with these.

Jan 29, 2020 10:50 AM

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Its incredibly boring, i would rather watch a terrible anime that i can ironically enjoy, then an ok anime that is boring, its filled with shounen tropes that are done just decently enough so an average shounen jump reader can enjoy it, it has no outstanding features. You would be better off any other battle shounen.
Jan 29, 2020 10:53 AM
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Astas voice is annoying.
It's as generic and mediocre as you gonna get when it comes to battle shounens.
There is nothing compelling about it's story and characters it's just meh, I rather watch something else.
Jan 29, 2020 11:06 AM

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Watched the trailer when it was first coming out.

Saw one of the kids screeching the entire time. Decided that was all of the Black Clover I was ever going to watch after that. Judging from the score and reception, seems I'm not missing much.
Jan 29, 2020 11:40 AM

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No, it's not a bad anime. The first arc was slow and boring but it gets better and better after that, the current arc is pure epicness.

Also I'm glad I didn't listen to some idiots who comparing it with Fairy Tail "cuz magic", BC is like x1000 times better than this shit. Or the "Asta screams" meme, dead meme after the first few episodes.
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I don'know....Because That Animation not good for them or them not understand the story😁
Jan 30, 2020 1:54 PM
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I personally love the show and gave it a 10/10. However it didn't start as a 10 for me. It kind of started a 6 or maybe a 7 and slowly managed to get to the magical 10 for me. A lot of people as I saw tend to say that they don't like Asta's voice, and find it annoying. This I can agree with. It was really annoying, but gladly I kept on since I saw a forum post that it's going to get better about 10~ episode. Like around 15-17 episodes. So I went on and it indeed did get better. Asta didn't yell that much, also even if he did yell, the tone of it was less noisy and bearable. So that removed my biggest issue with the show.

I really loved the story, the characters and the world the anime is set in. I agree in a sense that the show didn't invent anything special whatsoever, but where does it say that every show has to go into some uncharted, undiscovered route and do that? If you put together stuff that works with a good pace, then it can do wonders.

And for others why people hate this show. Since it has like 25 000 drops and like amazingly low score here on MAL.

Well first that if you were following the show from the very beginning, I could see people dropping it. Since you watch the first episode and you find an annoying MC, and a really nothing special rival character. You wait a week, and the MC still remains an annoying yelling idiot, and the rival is still nothing special. This goes for like 10~ episoded. That's 3 months. If you can marathon the show, sure you can get past these rocky parts under a day, but for those who are following the show required months of time this very same task.

Secondly, if you go on youtube you will see big anime channels (like gigguk) complaining about BC, thus you will either not start it, or drop it even more likely. Luckily some of them are starting to promote BC and try to get people back to watch the show, since it became a much better show than it was.

And lastly, the first impression. If you have a really bad first impression for something, it's really difficult to change your opinion about it. Since you kind of start to watch the anime with a pretty much negative mindset, you will not enjoying it. Lot of people dropped the show, and could come back to give it another chance, but the damage was already done, and it made a very bad first impression for a lot of people, and when they came back and started to re-watch it, they just reaffirmed themself that the show just bad.
Jan 30, 2020 2:15 PM

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Poor characters, story world etc. even if we just compare it in the battle Shounen genre. Fight animation is decent but thats just it. Watched the first 70 episodes cause people said it will get better, it got a little better but its still a very bad show. Dropped it now.
Feb 1, 2020 8:26 AM
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cchigu said:
Because Black Clover does not bring anything new to the genre, plus the constant shouting is irritating. I love battle shounens but bar few episodes, black clover till now has been very irritating everything wise.


Dude, you rated every Fairy Tail season 10/10, your anime opinion means literally nothing XDDD

But going back to the main topic, I think the latest Black Clover arcs are decent, but it's still a typical shonen. Characters are ok at best, and music and animation are pretty meh to good. I think the strongest thing in Black Clover is in it's world. By world I mean that it's a wizardry world with a lot of cool twists and additions. And they don't use the power of love, feelings and friendship or other asspulls to beat their enemies like in every Fairy Tail fight, so I think it's a big positive too.

But I think many people don't like it that much because of very bad start, first arcs can be pretty meh, but it gets muuuch better later.
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Feb 4, 2020 1:08 PM

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You know, I surprisingly found it hilarious whenever Asta is loud. Probably because It's just so much of a surprise to me for a character to do this much screaming and it's so dumb that it's funny.
Feb 4, 2020 3:14 PM
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It got better recently. Before the elves, it was borderline unwatchable for me. It had a really long stretch of bad comedy and just pointless episodes. I could see people dropping it.
Mar 16, 2020 2:18 AM

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Because the animation is horrible?
Mar 17, 2020 9:40 AM

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Because the animation is horrible?


Then explain how Hunter x Hunter 2011 has a score of 9.12 despite how terrible is the art/animation in this one.
Mar 17, 2020 10:17 AM

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Probably cause it's a shounen anime. And a long-running one too because not gonna lie, I never have seen an episode of Black Clover in my life except for small clips and previews but I think it's a bad anime. Like yeah, I'm judging a book by its cover but it's probably not that bad of an anime, I'm just closed-minded. But I don't spread hate it on online or anywhere, I don't even talk about it. So don't attack me and call me toxic
Mar 17, 2020 10:26 AM

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Hrybami said:
mafuyuu14 said:
Because the animation is horrible?


Then explain how Hunter x Hunter 2011 has a score of 9.12 despite how terrible is the art/animation in this one.

Not a fan of HxH, but...

I don't remember HxH having some bad animation like this....
as far as I've seen (34 episodes) most episodes are horrible like that...
Mar 17, 2020 10:46 AM

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Hrybami said:


Then explain how Hunter x Hunter 2011 has a score of 9.12 despite how terrible is the art/animation in this one.

Not a fan of HxH, but...

I don't remember HxH having some bad animation like this....
as far as I've seen (34 episodes) most episodes are horrible like that...


At least Asta is actually moving and is in motion. In HxH the characters barely move. They mostly appear and disappear or the camera is shaking for imitating movement or there are just a bunch a flashy lines spinning around to give the illusion the characters is moving. You can't see the bad animation if there is none amiright?

Not saying the animation in BC is stellar, but if it was a factor for the low score, then it should apply to other badly animated anime as well.
Mar 17, 2020 12:26 PM

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Hrybami said:

At least Asta is actually moving and is in motion. In HxH the characters barely move. They mostly appear and disappear or the camera is shaking for imitating movement or there are just a bunch a flashy lines spinning around to give the illusion the characters is moving. You can't see the bad animation if there is none amiright?

If what HxH does is "imitating movement" then I'd like Black Clover to do it as well, at least it won't be an eyesore like what I've been seeing for most of the 34 episodes.
Mar 17, 2020 12:46 PM

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To answer ops question. Its because they have nothing better to do with their lives other than try to tear down other peoples enjoyment of a story simply because they don't like it. May the corona virus take them. Amen.
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Apr 13, 2020 9:08 AM
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after a long time, I finally started Black Clover. I was always afraid to watch, since everyone spoke badly, and now that I'm in ep 105, I don't understand the absurd hate
Apr 13, 2020 9:10 AM
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I certainly don't hate it so there you go.
Apr 13, 2020 9:12 AM

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I can’t speak for myself as I haven’t watched it yet but I remember when it started airing lots of people said it was generic and the MC was annoying.
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Apr 13, 2020 9:14 AM

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as someone who likes black clover, I think it has something to do with Asta voice acting at the beginning.
Apr 13, 2020 9:14 AM

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I think they hate Asta cause he tends to speak loudly most of the time, i like it a lot but indeed sometimes he can be annoying.
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Apr 13, 2020 9:15 AM

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Haha, so you say even I who haven't seen Black Clover probably hate it already

maybe you're right
Apr 13, 2020 9:16 AM

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Well everyone can agree that the openings are fire so there’s that.They were probably disappointed that the show didn’t meet their expectations because of how awesome the ops are.
I haven’t seen the show but I have been listening to every op of the show as they came out.
Apr 13, 2020 9:17 AM

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You're just adding oil to a fire that doesn't exist anymore~
should have made this thread 3 years ago~
Now go and rename it to SAO~
It's a classic bait but always work.
Apr 13, 2020 9:17 AM

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1. If "Everyone" hates Black Clover (including you), this thread wouldn't be made.
2. I don't hate something I know nothing of.
3. #Not_All.
Apr 13, 2020 9:23 AM

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it does start off very eh because Asta is kinda annoying with the yelling(it really isn't that loud but it sounds annoying) but after that, it's quite decent and in just entertainment and enjoyment I find it to be top tier, but honestly, the anime is only a decent adaptation apart from the fights, the animation when it's not a fight is very mediocre and some things are overused honestly like Astas star eyes. the fights are amazing though with fluid and fast animation and the moments in two of the big fights where the final hit becomes black and white look amazing and add real impact to the moment. anyway, most of the hate stems from the start of the series with Astas yelling and nothing much interesting and unique plot-wise happening and there are a few similarities to other big shonen such as naruto, bleach and one piece which people criticize it for. Also a positive is that most people agree that all the openings except maybe to newest are insanely good. the end.
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Stop being so insecure and watch more bOrUtO.
Apr 13, 2020 9:25 AM

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I don't see this "absurd hate" you're talking about. It was only really apparent to me when the series first kicked off, as it didn't seem promising to a lot of people at first. It's doing pretty well now from what I can see anyway. If you're concerned, you can at least be sure that it won't ever reach the levels of hate Fairy Tail has lol

Apr 13, 2020 9:26 AM

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because asuta voice actor needs to tone down the screaming.



need i say more?

and i didn't enjoy naruto and considering how many comparisons people make to naurto i would rather avoid black clover as well.
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Apr 13, 2020 9:29 AM
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It really sucks even by shonen standards.
Apr 13, 2020 9:31 AM

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Beginning was lackluster and I disliked it myself tbh. People like to bash it for recycled tropes and lack of ambition.

But now I think it's a treat for battle shounen fans.

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Apr 13, 2020 9:34 AM

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because it's a bad anime and adaptation, even by shounen standards. also asta is annoying
Apr 13, 2020 9:36 AM
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Not sure with everyone.. But in my personal opinion Asta voice was too loud and annoying
Apr 13, 2020 9:37 AM
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tbh black clover is one of the best shounen i have seen and the cliches and mc dont really bother me much even though i have seen the big 3 but still black clover is very entertaining. Im a shounen junkie so that might be why i dont mind.
Apr 13, 2020 9:38 AM

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Some of them hate battle shounen in general, others just have enthusiastic main character like Asta and I think that sums up pretty much all the criticisms I've heard about it. Either it's just Asta or his voice, which I can't relate to on a fundamental level (I'd never drop a show just because I don't like a voice) but whatever floats their boat. Or they just criticize it for the same shit they throw at every battle shounen as if those criticisms somehow become more relevant by repeating them over and over again.

Personally I'm not fully caught up (at ep 94) but I've been having a blast with the show so far. It's just a very solid battle shounen, with all the parts you need and it knows what it's doing and as a fan of the genre that's really all I need.
I probably regret this post by now.
Apr 13, 2020 9:38 AM

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because asuta voice actor needs to tone down the screaming.



need i say more?

and i didn't enjoy naruto and considering how many comparisons people make to naurto i would rather avoid black clover as well.
wow, this is some next level shit. even burrito doesn't yell this much
Apr 13, 2020 9:42 AM

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The manga is pretty respected by the community from what I've seen.
Apr 13, 2020 9:44 AM

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As previously said a big part is probably the screaming from asta and maybe that the anime adaption isn't that good.

But I have to say that I absolutely love the Black Clover Manga, for me it is one of the best ongoing shounen manga series at the moment
Apr 13, 2020 9:49 AM

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Asta and his yelling is annoying for some people
Beginning isn’t very good show is better after episode 30 or so (in my opinion)
Pierrot doesn’t care much for BC and pour resources to Boruto so animation isn’t as good as it could be but thanks to BC team’s hard work it is still decent
Apr 13, 2020 9:51 AM

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Well its is a pretty mediocre adaption of the manga and the animation is questionable sometimes cause of the lack of people working on the anime, but I find it rather enjoyable nonetheless.

Manga is A++++++ though.
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Apr 13, 2020 9:52 AM
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Black Clover is my right now Naruto. Asta is Naruto, Yuno is Sasuke... etc etc.
I enjoy it.
Asta is loud because no one sees him as a person... the same translates to real life.
People who feel they are invisible are constantly crying out.
Apr 13, 2020 9:58 AM

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Black Clover had a very rough start and first impression is the most important. It was there when most people dropped it.
Most likely due to Asta's unbearable voice and autistic screeching, which over time eventually got better.
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