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| This episode was a good example of people's arrogance caused by ignorance. You know, the kind when they say they know better, even though they haven't actually experienced the other person has gone through. I feel like Okarin will have to man it up in order to save the world, but this still doesn't give any right to Maho and even Daru to hold that tone to him. And in the end, that's the thing - he is special not just because of his Reading Steiner, but because he will find the strength to go through with everything required for success. I'm sure that Maho doesn't really have the force of will to actually experience Okarin's suffering from the previous attempts and keep her psyche intact, in order to solve the formula. |
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| That was one of the most emotional episodes on par with episode 8, no doubt. Though it's not without some questionable moments, again. Seriously, why on Earth did the creators think that inserting naked Maho in the middle of a heated and emotional argument was good? Really? The previous moment Okabe and Daru were emotional as hell, Okabe screaming at him, and the next second we have an embarrassed Maho with a towel and cheering Daru, happy to see a "legal loli" after being scorned so much? Uhhhhh. It's just so out of place. You could've literally put this scene ANYWHERE to make it work but not where it ended up. And it keeps happening. Every time there's fanservice in this sequel, it's out of place. The original Steins;Gate had such a good pace, everything was flawless. It makes me sad because I want to love the sequel to one of my favourite anime shows of all time, but it keeps failing my expectations in various details, even tiny ones. Though again, I'm not denying that overall this particular episode was great. It's precisely because of its greatness that I'm so picky about details. |
St0rmbladeApr 12, 2020 1:38 AM
St0rmblade said: That was one of the most emotional episodes on par with episode 8, no doubt. Though it's not without some questionable moments, again. Seriously, why on Earth did the creators think that inserting naked Maho in the middle of a heated and emotional argument was good? Really? The previous moment Okabe and Daru were emotional as hell, Okabe screaming at him, and the next second we have an embarrassed Maho with a towel and cheering Daru, happy to see a "legal loli" after being scorned so much? Uhhhhh. It's just so out of place. You could've literally put this scene ANYWHERE to make it work but not where it ended up. And it keeps happening. Every time there's fanservice in this sequel, it's out of place. The original Steins;Gate had such a good pace, everything was flawless. It makes me sad because I want to love the sequel to one of my favourite anime shows of all time, but it keeps failing my expectations in various details, even tiny ones. Though again, I'm not denying that overall this particulae episode was great. It's precisely because of its greatness that I'm so picky about details. This was basically was the same as inthe original, when Okabe saw Mayuri and Kurisu having shower. |
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KidLeaf said: Of course 0 is meant to be an alternate line after episode 23 of S;G so imo 0 shouldn't have been given a full 2 cour treatment. It is not an alternate line. |
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KidLeaf said: Yes it is. It is a divergence after episode 23 of the original S;G, a line where Okabe doesn't go back to convince himself Kurisu is dead. Hence his somber personality in this line. It's is still not an alternate line. I mean, it is not a what-if story, if that's what you mean by the word alternate. |
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KidLeaf said: SheevPalpatine said: It's is still not an alternate line. I mean, it is not a what-if story, if that's what you mean by the word alternate. No; that's not what I meant. I haven't completed S;G0 but from what I understand it is meant to be an "alternate path" essentially to the end of original S;G. It diverges after episode 23 (maybe 22, I can't quite remember the exact episode number, the episode where Okabe goes back in time but accidentally kills Kurisu), but S;G0 still leads into the final 2 episodes of original S;G where Okabe realizes he can fake Kurisu's death and deceive his past self. And then from what I understand, the movie follows the end of original S;G. Yes, you are right, but the "alternate" word is not good in this case, since the events of 0 contrubute to the events of the original. Without the events in 0, the ending of the original would be impossible. It is also not exactly true that it takes place between episode 22 and 24. In terms of worldline iteration chronology it takes place before episode 1. The chronology is most likely this: Steins;Gate 1B (a theoretical episode where Okabe didn't got the D-Mail from the future) Steins;Gate 2-22 Steins;Gate 23B Steins;Gate 0 1-23 Steins;Gate 1-24 Explaining this would be a bit spoiler though, so don't ask for that until you finished 0. |
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| The moment I've been waiting for and this anime has been building to seems to have arrived: the emotions of the original cast reaching a tipping point to where everyone's guilt from the moment the decision was made in 23B comes spilling out. I was not expecting Daru's punch or to see him cry when admitting that he and Mayuri have been suffering like Okabe but Okabe hasn't been noticing it. Mayuri overhearing everything and then confronting Okabe in the park hurt. It just hurts to see Mayuri cry. She already felt the guilt for being the reason Okabe chose not to save Kurisu and for not wanting to visit the lab. Now she has to contend with the guilt that Okabe sacrificed the woman he loved in order for her to live. Quite an emotional episode. Completely escalated from the previous episode with Daru x Yuki. |
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| Kana Hanazawa and Miyano Mamoru both flexed their acting muscles in a big way at the end (I have no idea how that scene would have felt when watching the dub, my guess is it would be quite subpar). Very powerful and emotional scene, I loved it. I also loved Miyano Mamoru and Yahagi Sayuri(Maho-san)'s intense debate at the roof earlier. Perhaps this was the best episode of the season so far. |
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| não consegui segurar o choro com esse final |
| Emotional episode and Okabe gonna be more stressed. He just not like Okabe that I know. |
| Damn another gut-wrenching episode, Mayuri learning the truth from the Alpha worldline and confronting Okabe about it is so T_T The clash in morals is damn strong in this one, who can really blame Okabe after experiencing so much mental torture or Daru + Maho for trying to change the eventual despairful future |
| Well my friend warned me about this being a bit dark. Who would have ever thought that Daru would slap Okabe in the face.. A harsh discussion going on between Okabe and Maho. There's still hope and I'm pretty sure we can believe that. He'll reawaken as KYOUMA. (hopefully) xD Well Mayurii heard everything and confronted Okabe about it. Maho's right about Mayurii, she's also suffering. Left out of everything.. Just saying ''don't think about it'' won't save her. Pretty sure Okabe knows that. But I don't think he's in the right mind right now. |
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| At least, finally, Mayuri could have a glance at the truth after all. Is understandable that those tragic events Okabe has to go through have torn his heart to be calloused and I appreciated the efforts that he has tried, his arrogance and selfishness still warrant to blame, it's isn't felt like the self-confidence of Hououin Kyouma, but far more irritating. I'm expecting he will admit his mistake soon, let go of his self-esteem and accept to search for the possibilities to reach the perfect worldline, as he says: “No one knows what the future holds. That’s why its potential is infinite.” One of a few, if not the only episode (so far) that the tension and the dramatic occurrence actually make me amazed as the original Steins;Gate did. The character interactions and emotions were well done, the voice acting was on point and the directing was excellent. |
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| FINALLY something is happening omgggggggg. They DO NOT UNDERSTAND what he has been through, THEY DO NOT. She said i do but is she yapping ????????? Now it totally-completely makes sense why users say to watch orig S;G 1-22 and only then these series(after a "Missing Link" episode ofc). Alr i hope Hououin Kyouma is backkk and he will use that time leap machine again onmymama we finna go crazyyy. But seriously, im tired of that, show us the ACTION. |
| "Then why?! Why do your eyes look like you're suffering?!" I've seen that line floating around in memes but actually experiencing its scene in full context shook me to my core, man. Hearing Mayuri even fathom the idea that maybe it'd be better if she hadn't been saved is in its own tier of pain. And while both Daru and Maho both snap were powerful moments too, can't help but feel like they really haven't given the psychological toll of the timeleaps had on Okabe the acknowledgement it deserves. Still though, that punch had impact. |
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FINALLY something is happening omgggggggg.
They DO NOT UNDERSTAND what he has been through, THEY DO NOT. She said i do but is she yapping ?????????
Now it totally-completely makes sense why users say to watch orig S;G 1-22 and only then these series(after a "Missing Link" episode ofc). Alr i hope Hououin Kyouma is backkk and he will use that time leap machine again onmymama we finna go crazyyy.
But seriously, im tired of that, show us the ACTION.
They DO NOT UNDERSTAND what he has been through, THEY DO NOT. She said i do but is she yapping ?????????
Now it totally-completely makes sense why users say to watch orig S;G 1-22 and only then these series(after a "Missing Link" episode ofc). Alr i hope Hououin Kyouma is backkk and he will use that time leap machine again onmymama we finna go crazyyy.
But seriously, im tired of that, show us the ACTION.
FlameyWT said: Now it totally-completely makes sense why users say to watch orig S;G 1-22 and only then these series(after a "Missing Link" episode ofc) No, that order doesn't make any sense. It was invented by some moron who doesn't understand Steins;Gate |
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FlameyWT said:
Now it totally-completely makes sense why users say to watch orig S;G 1-22 and only then these series(after a "Missing Link" episode ofc)
Now it totally-completely makes sense why users say to watch orig S;G 1-22 and only then these series(after a "Missing Link" episode ofc)
No, that order doesn't make any sense. It was invented by some moron who doesn't understand Steins;Gate
| @SciADV_Maniac It does, many ppl agree with that, and to call "moron" it's not appropriate here, every opinion has a right to exist. |
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@SciADV_Maniac It does, many ppl agree with that, and to call "moron" it's not appropriate here, every opinion has a right to exist.
| @FlameyWT No, it doesn't make sense. It's not "chronological". It's a total BS order. Steins;Gate is the main story, 0 is a side entry. And that's it. Narratively it does not work. The Science Adventure series (the series that Steins;Gate is part of) is intended to be experienced in release order. That's just how it works. Sorry, but I will call anyone a moron if they are saying stuff that doesn't make sense. |
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