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Eight-Man said:
I think it's very powerful. The way it was used in Germany led to a complete turnaround for the country, causing it to become probably the strongest country in the world at the time.

Nope that was a facad actually. They just put the county in further debt and hid it. Also manipulated statistics.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/the-nazis-and-the-german-economy/

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Jul 10, 2017 10:35 PM

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traed said:

Eight-Man said:
I think it's very powerful. The way it was used in Germany led to a complete turnaround for the country, causing it to become probably the strongest country in the world at the time.

Nope that was a facad actually. They just put the county in further debt and hid it. Also manipulated statistics.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/the-nazis-and-the-german-economy/

Have read that this was one of the major reasons Hitler was so aggressive militarily, picking fights with pretty much every country in Europe in rapid succession instead of taking a more measured approach.

The only way National Socialism was sustainable economically was seizing assets from other countries militarily to keep the war machine going, and then using the war machine to seize more assets to keep the war machine going and so on and so forth.

Interestingly this is kind of comparable to the military industrial complex of the US in the Middle East today. Once an economy is founded on war there's no turning back.

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Jul 10, 2017 10:36 PM

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traed said:

Eight-Man said:
I think it's very powerful. The way it was used in Germany led to a complete turnaround for the country, causing it to become probably the strongest country in the world at the time.

Nope that was a facad actually. They just put the county in further debt and hid it. Also manipulated statistics.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/the-nazis-and-the-german-economy/

They put the entire nation to work, from a population in which were mostly jobless before hitler came to power. While they may have been in debt, if they would've won the war (which was quite likely if Japan and Italy didn't fuck them over) they would've quickly recovered their debt and became an instant super power in the world.

Jul 10, 2017 10:47 PM

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BarryManilow said:

traed said:

Nope that was a facad actually. They just put the county in further debt and hid it. Also manipulated statistics.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/the-nazis-and-the-german-economy/

Have read that this was one of the major reasons Hitler was so aggressive militarily, picking fights with pretty much every country in Europe in rapid succession instead of taking a more measured approach.

The only way National Socialism was sustainable economically was seizing assets from other countries militarily to keep the war machine going, and then using the war machine to seize more assets to keep the war machine going and so on and so forth.

Interestingly this is kind of comparable to the military industrial complex of the US in the Middle East today. Once an economy is founded on war there's no turning back.

That's also part of the reason forcing Jews into free labour and taking assets from Jews and people that hid them.

He even killed off the left wing of the Nazi party such as Stasser whom hated Hitler and called him doing a half assed revolution because it did not take down capitalism.

Eight-Man said:
They put the entire nation to work, from a population in which were mostly jobless before hitler came to power. While they may have been in debt, if they would've won the war (which was quite likely if Japan and Italy didn't fuck them over) they would've quickly recovered their debt and became an instant super power in the world.

Read the link. They weren't all working he just excluded immigrants and Jews as citizens to not count them among unemployed and didn't count unemployed women as well. He only changed how the employment rates were measured to give a deceiving rise

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Jul 11, 2017 4:34 PM

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traed said:

Narmy said:

All nationalism is bad.

@j0x
" Left-wing nationalism, leftist nationalism or socialist nationalism (not to be confused with national socialism) describes a form of nationalism based upon social equality, popular sovereignty, and national self-determination.[1] It has its origins in the Jacobinism of the French Revolution.[1] Left-wing nationalism typically espouses anti-imperialism.[2][3] It stands in contrast to right-wing nationalism, and often rejects ethno-nationalism and fascism,[2] although some forms of left-wing nationalism have included a platform of racialism and rejection of minorities.[2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_nationalism

"Civic nationalism, also known as progressive nationalism, is a kind of nationalism and identified by political philosophers who believe in a non-xenophobic form of nationalism compatible with progressive values of freedom, tolerance, equality and individual rights.[1][2] Ernest Renan[3] and John Stuart Mill[4][5] are often thought to be early civic nationalists. Civic nationalists often defend the value of national identity by saying that individuals need a national identity in order to lead meaningful, autonomous lives[6] and that democratic polities need national identity in order to function properly.[7]

Civic nationhood is a political identity built around shared citizenship in a democratic state. Thus, a "civic nation" isn't defined by its language or culture, but by its political institutions and progressive principles, which its citizens pledge to uphold. Membership in the civic nation is open to anyone who shares these values.[8]

In theory, a civic nation or state does not aim to promote one culture over another.[8] German philosopher Jürgen Habermas argued that immigrants to a progressive state need not assimilate into the host culture, but only need to accept the principles of the country's Constitution.[8]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_nationalism

that left-wing nationalism seems prone to racism too from the looks of it

but that civic nationalism seems different enough among the other kinds of nationalism

Jul 11, 2017 4:40 PM

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j0x said:

that left-wing nationalism seems prone to racism too from the looks of it

but that civic nationalism seems different enough among the other kinds of nationalism

That's just a right wing interpretation of it. Has nothing to do with race.

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Jul 11, 2017 8:25 PM

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Jul 11, 2017 8:30 PM

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Nyu said:

Rarusu_ said:

National Socialism is a scam.Thankfully, they realized that pretty early on here and didn't fall for the trick. In the name of the nation they rip you off of your civil freedoms, public influence and rights to individual property that your ancestors fought hard for. The nation is a product of a group of individuals and should work in their favour, not the other way around as many NS guys seem to think. The nation is supposed to empower the individual and lift her up.

Also, this thing about ancestry, it's not enough. There are too many skin heads around behaving like hooligans and commiting serious crimes. That's certainly not any form of behaviour that our ancestors would have approved of. If someone doesn't behave like one of us, I don't care how 100% ancestrally of my group somebody is. Take interest in your culture and heritage, and honour your ancestors. Before that, don't act like some kind of spokesman for us.

These types of posts are the exact reason I abandoned this thread. Perhaps learn what Aryan means before ignorantly posting about it.

Aryan means nothing, just like all other races.

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Nyu said:

Rarusu_ said:

National Socialism is a scam.Thankfully, they realized that pretty early on here and didn't fall for the trick. In the name of the nation they rip you off of your civil freedoms, public influence and rights to individual property that your ancestors fought hard for. The nation is a product of a group of individuals and should work in their favour, not the other way around as many NS guys seem to think. The nation is supposed to empower the individual and lift her up.

Also, this thing about ancestry, it's not enough. There are too many skin heads around behaving like hooligans and commiting serious crimes. That's certainly not any form of behaviour that our ancestors would have approved of. If someone doesn't behave like one of us, I don't care how 100% ancestrally of my group somebody is. Take interest in your culture and heritage, and honour your ancestors. Before that, don't act like some kind of spokesman for us.

These types of posts are the exact reason I abandoned this thread. Perhaps learn what Aryan means before ignorantly posting about it.

Aryans are Indo-Europeans probably related to Hittites and groups like that.

Actually pretty confusing that Hitler called white people 'Aryans,' to this day I am sure he meant to say "Avians' for we are the bird people.

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Nyu said:

These types of posts are the exact reason I abandoned this thread. Perhaps learn what Aryan means before ignorantly posting about it.

Aryans are Indo-Europeans probably related to Hittites and groups like that.

Actually pretty confusing that Hitler called white people 'Aryans,' to this day I am sure he meant to say "Avians' for we are the bird people.

there's not even any 'pure' people left by retarded neonazi logic. there are literally no people who're racially 'singular' enough to define being of a 'pure' race, not even in countries that're considered racially 'homogeneous'. even the japanese, whether they want to admit it or not, mixed with the koreans and chinese throughout history. ethnic groups beyond very basic form pretty much exist for very little reason, especially in the US where everyone, read, almost everyone, is fucking mixed, beyond just categorization or census purpose

there weren't 'pure' people when hitler was alive either, but who was he kidding, he ignored himself as a target for elimination despite having brown hair and brown eyes, and taking into consideration that most modern neonazis either look like greasy psychopaths or street urchins, theyre probably not breeding either. thank god for that.

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spuukiebuugi said:

xrockxz89 said:

Aryans are Indo-Europeans probably related to Hittites and groups like that.

Actually pretty confusing that Hitler called white people 'Aryans,' to this day I am sure he meant to say "Avians' for we are the bird people.

there's not even any 'pure' people left by retarded neonazi logic. there are literally no people who're racially 'singular' enough to define being of a 'pure' race, not even in countries that're considered racially 'homogeneous'. even the japanese, whether they want to admit it or not, mixed with the koreans and chinese throughout history. ethnic groups beyond very basic form pretty much exist for very little reason, especially in the US where everyone, read, almost everyone, is fucking mixed, beyond just categorization or census purpose

there weren't 'pure' people when hitler was alive either, but who was he kidding, he ignored himself as a target for elimination despite having brown hair and brown eyes, and taking into consideration that most modern neonazis either look like greasy psychopaths or street urchins, theyre probably not breeding either. thank god for that.

Yeah, it doesn't make too much sense. They seemed to have this idealized notion of eugenics that through selective breeding and no interference for like a thousand years, they could create the perfect race.

How silly of them.

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spuukiebuugi said:

there's not even any 'pure' people left by retarded neonazi logic. there are literally no people who're racially 'singular' enough to define being of a 'pure' race, not even in countries that're considered racially 'homogeneous'. even the japanese, whether they want to admit it or not, mixed with the koreans and chinese throughout history. ethnic groups beyond very basic form pretty much exist for very little reason, especially in the US where everyone, read, almost everyone, is fucking mixed, beyond just categorization or census purpose

there weren't 'pure' people when hitler was alive either, but who was he kidding, he ignored himself as a target for elimination despite having brown hair and brown eyes, and taking into consideration that most modern neonazis either look like greasy psychopaths or street urchins, theyre probably not breeding either. thank god for that.

Yeah, it doesn't make too much sense. They seemed to have this idealized notion of eugenics that through selective breeding and no interference for like a thousand years, they could create the perfect race.

How silly of them.

well since the whole idea of eugenics kind of goes against biology as we know it, yes, it's pretty fucking stupid. what's more fucking stupid is how people who didn't even follow their own standards of what was 'idealized' and what was not in accordance with their own regime, according to their own word, were put in charge of genocidally massacring thousands upon millions of people who didn't fit the aforemention "standards". nevertheless, it's more about the vileness of the nazi germany regime itself being repugnant and the chaos it ultimately caused beyond just the "does not fucking compute" logic that they seemed to follow.

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Rarusu_ said:

National Socialism is a scam.Thankfully, they realized that pretty early on here and didn't fall for the trick. In the name of the nation they rip you off of your civil freedoms, public influence and rights to individual property that your ancestors fought hard for. The nation is a product of a group of individuals and should work in their favour, not the other way around as many NS guys seem to think. The nation is supposed to empower the individual and lift her up.

Also, this thing about ancestry, it's not enough. There are too many skin heads around behaving like hooligans and commiting serious crimes. That's certainly not any form of behaviour that our ancestors would have approved of. If someone doesn't behave like one of us, I don't care how 100% ancestrally of my group somebody is. Take interest in your culture and heritage, and honour your ancestors. Before that, don't act like some kind of spokesman for us.

These types of posts are the exact reason I abandoned this thread. Perhaps learn what Aryan means before ignorantly posting about it.

Aryan is a class in Hinduism to define nobles which is in relation to a group of unknown origin in India. Perhaps you should learn what Aryan means before ignorantly posting about it.

Nyu said:

BarryManilow said:
Wow.... freedom of speech was a mistake. Way too many teenagers who want to take the most controversial opinion possible just because they can.

If the Nazis were so great why did they get owned by a bunch of starving underequipped Slavs?

Ah, so World War II consisted only of Germany and the Soviet Union?

No but they played the biggest roles.

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Socialism is pretty cancer. Like cancer though it takes time to spread and some people don't even realize it's affecting thing. Nationalism Socialism is like a straight up dumpster fire. It's right there in your face and it's pretty ugly... and smelly.

The contrast, you criticise National Socialism, yet you have a Nietzsche quote as your signature, he inspired National Socialism.

No that was a misinterpretation of Nietzsche pushed by his sister for her own benefit.

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Aaaand this thread continues. Well, can we make an argument for late-term abortions, such as this thread? And Nazism in general? Please?

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Hitler was fascist, while similar, it is not "socialist" - Per the ideals of socialism, all means of production are controlled by the people, per fascism means of production are controlled by the state (There is not "state" in a socialist society)

You're confused about communism, socialism and fascism.

Communism: All production belongs to all people, this has never been done by humans in a context larger than a village

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism

Socialism: Means of productions belong to the state, this has been done to varying extents and continues to be done to this day

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

Fascism: Is any ideology that has dictatorial tendencies and suppresses all dissent. Fascism isn't an ideology in itself, it is merely an aspect of other ideologies.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

I'm just pointing this out, cause it annoys me when people use words without knowing the meaning of those words. I'm not actually disagreeing with your point.

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From an economic perspective, National-Socialism was brilliant. In only 2 years, 6 million unemployed Germans had acquired a fixed job. In fact, his economic model was one of the main reasons why the capitalist powers wanted war against Germany - despite the fact that Hitler did not want war against his Germanic cousins but against Communism (Russia) - because the National Socialist model left in evidence the farce of Demoliberalism and Capitalism.

In the moral aspect, National Socialism was low. Hitler was right to accuse the Jews of much of Germany's problems. However, Hitler did not limit himself to punishing Jews responsible for major financial crises, or Communists, or those who attacked the morality and culture of the German people, but also attacked people unworthy of death. The solution to the Jewish problem could be solved by punishing the guilty, expelling the suspects and conditioning the stay of the "innocent".

On the other hand, the accusations against National German Socialism are relatively exaggerated. For now I will mention only two:
1.-The first deliberate exaggeration I see in the supposed 6 million Jews killed, a figure quite improbable if we take into account the technology of that time and the reports offered decades ago -at least in not-germanic nations-
2.-The second exaggeration is associated with the excessive bad propaganda that they receive.
Communist Jews murdered many more Russians than Nazis to Jews, however, how many times did we hear about it?
Russian and Chinese Communists murdered more people than Nazis, however, how many times did we hear about it?
The British Empire murdered many more foreigners thanNazis, what do we know about that?

In current Germanic nations, the Nazis are the excuse that is often used to repress actions associated with cultural greatness and consistency of basic principles.
They are allowed - with expiration date - to construct material greatness, but this certainly can not be associated with their culture and their principles, but with the schemes that impose them.

The questions are, why do Germanic nations receive this kind of propaganda if most Hitler allies are not-Germanic?
The reasons are multiple, but perhaps the most obvious, is that since the triumph of Liberalism, the main centers of economic power in the world are in the Germanic nations. It is not the same to have the enemy near than far.

The elites of these nations, unlike most Elites of past Empires, they do not seem to intend to exalt "their own people" - at least for their own benefit - but deliberately repress their pride .
Why not use that collective pride at least as a weapon?
In my opinion, those who have the last word in the current Germanic nations, are not Germanic, because if the elites really were Germanic, they would exalt the pride of the people for their own benefit. That is the most intelligent thing when you want to prolong the power and I doubt very much that the supposed Germanic elites lack common sense.

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Pirating_Ninja said:

Nyu said:
And if you don't know what national socialism represents, this is Hitler's interpretation.

"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our
race and our people, the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland."

Hitler was fascist, while similar, it is not "socialist" - Per the ideals of socialism, all means of production are controlled by the people, per fascism means of production are controlled by the state (There is not "state" in a socialist society) - Typically the state is controlled by a single leader (I would say not elected, i.e. inherited, but since fascism really never survives longer than 1 generation, one cannot really speculate on how the leader of a fascist country will pass on power).

Nyu said:
I see this to mean a homeland for the European people, primarily for the European people.

Hitler was talking about Aryans, not Europeans. Their is a very large difference.

Nyu said:
Purity of blood, well if you know anything about genetics, you'd know about recessive and dominant genes, it just so happens our genes are recessive, so if our blood mixes, we lose our features, this actually leads to less diversity. And our population, it's falling, in every one of our countries. And it's just casually ignored, if it was any other group, then people would care.

You are wrong on so many levels it is hard to tackle this statement without being insulting but I'll try:

1) Genetics is far more complicated than recessive / dominant alleles; In fact, the amount of traits coded for by a single gene are likely >.01% of total traits. Most phenotypic traits are polygenetic (many genes code for 1 trait) / pleiotropic (one gene codes for a single trait or part of a trait) with very complex interactions between. This does not even factor in the fact that many genes are not fully dominant / recessive, meaning that any inherited trait is a mixture of both such as eye or hair color.

2) More diversity in the gene pool = more diversity in inherited traits. I honestly don't know how you could possibly rationalize the reverse.

3) Genetics has nothing to do w/ declining birth rate in the way you are thinking; and if it did (which it is likely 90%+ due to environmental influences), then what you would want is to bring in "genes from races that are multiplying faster than Europeans" (of course this is ridiculous in theory for so many reasons - including the most basic reason that heritability is based within groups, and cannot explain differences between groups; i.e. because you are grouping Europeans v. others you cannot then apply genetics to both groups equally - I am just trying to explain a fundamental flaw in your already backwards theory).

Nyu said:
We also reject feminism since nature intends for women and men to be complementary, not contradictory. While feminists arrogantly reject women’s uniqueness, attempting to “liberate” women from their womanhood, National Socialists accept the differences between men and women as strengths. Due to these differences, or natural roles, political authority and war are masculine spheres.

Socialism at its core is equality, and we are not talking "equality of opportunity", we are talking "equality of outcome" - now, typically socialism is only applied to economic status, but if you were to expand it to other spheres, logically it would follow this line of thought. Furthermore, the "differences between men and women" as you put it are based on the "hunter-gatherer" form of society which has been obsolete for decades. It is no longer required for a man to be physically strong or for a women to be popping out babies left and right to make sure 1-2 survive.

Nyu said:
That is National Socialism.

Why call it socialism, pretty sure you would HATE anyone calling themselves a socialist.

Fascism does not state the means of production is owned by the state.

Its more so cooperation

The state intervenes if a private company is screwing over the people.

Just to clear that up.

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OP just call it what it is, the historical dumpster of idiocy known as "Nazism"
also genetics have repeatedly disproven your eugenic bullshit, most neonazis aren't even blonde haired and blue eyed anyway in accordance with their own ideological toxicity, they're often druggie looking scraggletoothed inbreds from some no name rural area who look like they did too much meth

Maybe you've already seen this, but if not you might find it amusing

https://authenticnationalsocialismmemes.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/untermensch.jpg

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These types of posts are the exact reason I abandoned this thread. Perhaps learn what Aryan means before ignorantly posting about it.

Oke-ly-dokeley. Apparently they're from Iran.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Aryan

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Aaaand this thread continues. Well, can we make an argument for late-term abortions, such as this thread? And Nazism in general? Please?

One could say that this thread was already born with a life ending birth defect

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Nyu said:

spuukiebuugi said:

One could say that this thread was already born with a life ending birth defect

Well I abandoned this thread pretty fast, so there are problems, but they mainly stem from people's misinformation about National Socialism.

can you please just call it what it is
literally what it is
say it with me
nazism.

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No issues with it, as I live in a country with a lot of socialist aspects to it. Personally, incorporating single payer healthcare and other social programs is a great thing for a government to do. We are only as strong as our weakest link.

come, you sweet hour of death

Jul 15, 2017 7:34 PM

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God am I a commie.

NotLikeThis. I need to move to russia

come, you sweet hour of death

Jul 16, 2017 12:02 AM

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spuukiebuugi said:

-Ouro- said:
Aaaand this thread continues. Well, can we make an argument for late-term abortions, such as this thread? And Nazism in general? Please?

One could say that this thread was already born with a life ending birth defect

Political threads on CD/CE rarely turn out well (if it all), but ones about Nazism are always bad whenever actual Nazis show up.

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-Ouro- said:

spuukiebuugi said:

One could say that this thread was already born with a life ending birth defect

Political threads on CD/CE rarely turn out well (if it all), but ones about Nazism are always bad whenever actual Nazis show up.

What's really funny is the constant stumbling back unto the substitution of the word "Nazi" with the term "national socialist", when the two effectively mean the same thing. The original name of the Nazi party, or at least the transliterated/translated version was the "National Socialist Party". Ergo, the two can't be conflated when they are exactly the same. But keep denying that, guys, keep denying that.

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Nyu said:

-Ouro- said:

Political threads on CD/CE rarely turn out well (if it all), but ones about Nazism are always bad whenever actual Nazis show up.

A Nazi showed up? Where? This thread is just for the discussion of National Socialist values.

You're the Nazi here though. Like, Nazis always get triggered whenever they're called Nazis...even though barely anyone respects Nazism or Nazis.

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spuukiebuugi said:

-Ouro- said:

Political threads on CD/CE rarely turn out well (if it all), but ones about Nazism are always bad whenever actual Nazis show up.

What's really funny is the constant stumbling back unto the substitution of the word "Nazi" with the term "national socialist", when the two effectively mean the same thing. The original name of the Nazi party, or at least the transliterated/translated version was the "National Socialist Party". Ergo, the two can't be conflated when they are exactly the same. But keep denying that, guys, keep denying that.

Back when I had Deviantart and I debated against Nazis, they always got triggered whenever they were called Nazis, instead of "National Socialist." I don't think they realize that barely anyone outside of /pol/ or internet edgelords (redundancy eh?) unironically likes Nazis.

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God am I a commie.

NotLikeThis. I need to move to russia

Are you the pro-Nork tankie leaf on /pol/ by any chance? kys pls if so

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Only good thing about the Nazis is the fashion. It's fabulous.

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Jul 16, 2017 3:16 PM

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From what I can tell most NatSocs/Nazis prefer the term National Socialism because the term Nazi is usually associated with Neo-Nazi skinheads types that even other Nazis find disgusting.

traed said:
Only good thing about the Nazis is the fashion. It's fabulous.

Fascists in general had decent aesthetics if nothing else. I also kind of like Falangist aesthetics

Jul 16, 2017 3:34 PM

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Asking to have a civil discussion about this. lol.

Jul 16, 2017 3:43 PM

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Gholy said:
@-Ouro-
From what I can tell most NatSocs/Nazis prefer the term National Socialism because the term Nazi is usually associated with Neo-Nazi skinheads types that even other Nazis find disgusting.

traed said:
Only good thing about the Nazis is the fashion. It's fabulous.

Fascists in general had decent aesthetics if nothing else. I also kind of like Falangist aesthetics

For the record skinhead is actually a punk subculture. There are anti-racist and hard left wing skinheads. The socialist ones are called redskins. Neo-Nazis make up the majority of all Nazis.

That guy looks like a dork though. I just like the symbol.

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Jul 16, 2017 4:00 PM

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traed said:
Only good thing about the Nazis is the fashion. It's fabulous.

Gotta agree with this, those uniforms were sexy af.

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Jul 16, 2017 9:32 PM

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Gholy said:
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From what I can tell most NatSocs/Nazis prefer the term National Socialism because the term Nazi is usually associated with Neo-Nazi skinheads types that even other Nazis find disgusting.

traed said:
Only good thing about the Nazis is the fashion. It's fabulous.

Fascists in general had decent aesthetics if nothing else. I also kind of like Falangist aesthetics

If I recall correctly in the first place, Nazi was an Anglo version of the original German name for the NSDAP, the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. It's basically their equivalent of calling Americans "Yankees." I usually just use Nazi regardless, because it's short and to the point.

Jul 16, 2017 11:21 PM

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Why is national socialism interchangeable with Nazism? Just seems like such a generic term (i.e. national capitalism). I could be misunderstanding, but isn't any socialist program implemented by the government on a national level considered national socialism by default?

jennicide said:

traed said:
Only good thing about the Nazis is the fashion. It's fabulous.

Gotta agree with this, those uniforms were sexy af.

Really? I think their wardrobe is a little dull these days:

Jul 17, 2017 9:44 AM

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Ratohnhaketon said:

jennicide said:

Gotta agree with this, those uniforms were sexy af.

Really? I think their wardrobe is a little dull these days:

I said "were". Plus, that commie/anarchist rabble doesn't apply here.

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Jul 17, 2017 11:41 AM

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jennicide said:

Ratohnhaketon said:

Really? I think their wardrobe is a little dull these days:

I said "were". Plus, that commie/anarchist rabble doesn't apply here.

I'm just being a bit facetious, albeit I'd say the comparison to Antifa and the Brownshirts is legitimate.

Jul 17, 2017 11:48 AM

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@Ratohnhaketon
National Socialism pretty much equals Nazism. The full name of the nazi party was the Nationaal Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiderspartei, after all. Fascism is a whole different story but if you are a national socialist you're a literal nazi.
A google search can teach you all about the different kinds of socialism

Jul 17, 2017 12:06 PM

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Omoshiroineko said:
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National Socialism pretty much equals Nazism. The full name of the nazi party was the Nationaal Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiderspartei, after all. Fascism is a whole different story but if you are a national socialist you're a literal nazi.
A google search can teach you all about the different kinds of socialism

Yeah but I guess my question is, why is national socialism exclusive to this specific moment in German history? Why can't Saudi Arabia, for example, become national socialists without becoming Nazis?

Jul 17, 2017 12:06 PM

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Nyu said:

traed said:
Only good thing about the Nazis is the fashion. It's fabulous.

That's how it starts, then you listen to their amazing songs.

Not for nothing do we praise German Women, German Loyalty, German Wine and German Song in our National Song.

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old German songs

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Jul 17, 2017 4:18 PM

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Ratohnhaketon said:

jennicide said:

I said "were". Plus, that commie/anarchist rabble doesn't apply here.

I'm just being a bit facetious, albeit I'd say the comparison to Antifa and the Brownshirts is legitimate.

The Brownshirts were the organized paramilitary arm of the NSDAP. Antifa are a bunch of idiotic teens going wild in the streets without a clear goal or organization, most of them don't even know what they are fighting for or against.

jennicideJul 17, 2017 5:18 PM

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