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Apr 27, 2016 11:03 PM

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Korrvo said:
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rather than broad shouldered double D cup bimbos.
They're called real women, grow a pair

cough cough ahem

Anyways I used to be super against people who were into lolis, but I don't care as much anymore. People can like whatever they want to like; I really don't see any harm in it.


So having big breasts and broad shoulders defines what "real women" are.. Hmm after 28k posts you'd think people would get slightly less stupid about the stuff they say.. Guess not : O
Apr 27, 2016 11:17 PM

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nomanz said:
Korrvo said:
They're called real women, grow a pair

cough cough ahem

Anyways I used to be super against people who were into lolis, but I don't care as much anymore. People can like whatever they want to like; I really don't see any harm in it.


So having big breasts and broad shoulders defines what "real women" are.. Hmm after 28k posts you'd think people would get slightly less stupid about the stuff they say.. Guess not : O
Might wanna take a look over my post again cause that's not what I said. All I basically said is that curvy women are women, didn't say that flat women weren't.

Let's not jump to conclusions at the same time you decide to insult someone's intelligence. That irony can bit you in the ass later.
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Apr 27, 2016 11:19 PM

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Because they're aliens from outer space that wear human skin.


that sounds like yet another grand excuse to subject people TO THIS!



ARRRHHHHHH!!!
Apr 27, 2016 11:46 PM

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Korrvo said:
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So having big breasts and broad shoulders defines what "real women" are.. Hmm after 28k posts you'd think people would get slightly less stupid about the stuff they say.. Guess not : O
Might wanna take a look over my post again cause that's not what I said. All I basically said is that curvy women are women, didn't say that flat women weren't.

Let's not jump to conclusions at the same time you decide to insult someone's intelligence. That irony can bit you in the ass later.


Actually you said "They're called real women" then proceeded to tell me to grow a pair for not being attracted to something that I can't really decide to be attracted to. Nice logic pal. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Apr 27, 2016 11:56 PM

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"why do people freak out if you're attracted to kids"

can u take 1 minute and read what u fuckin wrote? do you think being attracted to kids is NORMAL.? you think its normal for people when find out u sexualice KIDS to go like...'oh yeah thtas cool'.

smh. you answer own quesiton stupido.
Apr 28, 2016 12:01 AM

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The whole "Seek help" bit has always been passive aggressive condescension. Seek help? So are you willing to help them? Are you willing to pay for their therapy? Since apparently you think it's a problem, you should be willing to help solve it.

With that said, I find pedophilia to be self-destructive by nature. There is no upside to being one and even though it's harmless when it's not acted upon, it doesn't do that person any favors. They need help, but actual support and guidance - not this emotional drivel that's meant to dehumanize them. Since I believe that sexual orientation isn't something you're born with, I do think that with the right perspective people can overcome it. Most won't come out about it to anyone since even a slight hint of it will ruin their lives and forever isolate them from society.

As for lolis, it's a gray area that obviously differs between each person. If you're looking at them and going "yes I love that prepubescent body! Ohhh yeaaah so glad she's a kid!" then that's a red flag. For me, I'm just abnormally attracted to anime girls in general. I don't discriminate as long as they're cute and I highly favor 2D over 3D in the case of adult women. I've worked with kids up close before and never had an urge or desire for them. It's just a completely different ballgame, there's simply no comparing them on any rational level.
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Apr 28, 2016 12:17 AM

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As long as you don't associate Lolis to real life little children - I'm okay with it.

Personally, I don't consider anime characters human. Even if I was attracted to any of them it wouldn't be too deep.

I'm against pedophilia and cp , most definitely. About consensual sex though, I have seen children who are way more sexually and mentally mature than the average and legally they may not be able to give consent but they've got ideas of their own as well.
I think in that situation the adult is responsible for consequences.

If what @traed says is true I'd be disturbed. I'm not that open minded as of yet.
Apr 28, 2016 2:37 AM

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Being attracted to women around the age of 14 is normal. Sexuality is developed.

Pedophilia is different. Pedophilia is attraction to underage kids, specifically those who don't show a sign of sexual maturity or development. The problem in it is that these kids can't actually consent to your desires since they're not sexual yet. Your sexual desires are harmful towards others if they're acted upon. It's not like homosexuality, which is abnormal but no one gets hurt.

But the most interesting question is, if for example a male adult had sex with an underage boy, without the perpetrator testimony which one would people think most of him? a gay rapist? a pedophile rapist? maybe both? or just a rapist?


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It was quite a while back I found it so youd be no worse off finding it than me. I think they did a survey of prison inmates or something. Im not sure I recall if its the same study but something said most child rapists had personality disorders rather than being pedophiles.


Indeed, the major problem is research on 'disturbing' mental disorders are mostly done on criminals, just like how a lot of research done on psychopathy. While in reality not all psychopaths turns into criminals or serial killers. Science community is not at all free from prejudice, after all research needs funding and unpopular topics easily shunned by media. People want to cling to normalcy, even when we clearly see how 'neurotic' a modern society is.


What do you mean by 'underage'?

According to the law it will be rape, but it depends where the law defines 'underage'. Biologically, it makes sense for a gay person to want to have sex with a 14-year-old boy.

This boy most likely masturbates and watches porn. He's in the process of sexual development.

The reason these relationships are considered bad is because of the power imbalance. The grown-up has more power - more life experience which leads to more authority - and that increases the probability of sexual abuse.

Sexual abuse often involves manipulation and a power imbalance. It's not just brute force.
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Apr 28, 2016 2:52 AM

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If someone told you they were sexually attracted to children, would you not be concerned as a friend? I would assume you'd be a friend otherwise wtf are they telling your for heh. I'm not saying 'freaking out' (w/e that entails) is the proper reaction, but it does raise some issue's, especially if you have children yourself. It's an abnormal fetish and one that can't be acted on or encouraged, so yes, some type of help may be beneficial. There's a difference between genuine support or trying to get someone the help they need and being condescending.

I couldn't care less about people attracted to loli's though. While I don't understand the attraction, I do think there is a difference between animated fictional characters and real life children. I also don't care about hebephilia. The age of consent is not a biological imperative, but rather one constructed by society. I personally don't think there is anything inherently wrong with being attracted to pubescent females or males. However, this is something that more often than not, shouldn't be acted on either.
Apr 28, 2016 8:58 AM

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nomanz said:
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Might wanna take a look over my post again cause that's not what I said. All I basically said is that curvy women are women, didn't say that flat women weren't.

Let's not jump to conclusions at the same time you decide to insult someone's intelligence. That irony can bit you in the ass later.


Actually you said "They're called real women" then proceeded to tell me to grow a pair for not being attracted to something that I can't really decide to be attracted to. Nice logic pal. Stop embarrassing yourself.
I didn't tell you to be attracted to them either..

Sigh.. not gonna bother
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Apr 28, 2016 9:07 AM

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Korrvo said:
nomanz said:


Actually you said "They're called real women" then proceeded to tell me to grow a pair for not being attracted to something that I can't really decide to be attracted to. Nice logic pal. Stop embarrassing yourself.
I didn't tell you to be attracted to them either..

Sigh.. not gonna bother


no you just stated I had no balls because I wasn't attracted to them? lol? Nice!!
Apr 28, 2016 9:29 AM

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I guess you can't help it if you are, but it doesn't change the fact that it's creepy and you're going straight to hell LOL
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Apr 28, 2016 9:36 AM

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Most of the hypocrites SJW would fuck a 14 year old Hollywood girl if they had the chance.
Almost 90% of rape victims are underage kids as well, so the legal age has to be lowered or women have to stop being ugly.
May 5, 2016 8:12 AM
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same reason some people freak out if you're into violent video games or movies, etc

yet people will usually make a special case for why its particularly wrong to like lolis. but it will be bullshit


its not fucking real..... fiction does not = i like the same thing irl

get the fuck over it
Dec 8, 2020 12:18 PM
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ion care what anyone says loli/shota or whatever, if it shows children, is disgusting. It doesnt matter if its real or not, ITS A CHILD!
Dec 8, 2020 12:22 PM

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If I remember correctly, this character was fifteen years old. People have just gotten way too sensitive. Admitting you find them attractive doesn't mean you would molest them.

Obviously that scene would never fly today. She'd be written as eighteen. Well, it would probably be considered too offensive and pervy for broadcast anyway. Like I said, everyone has gotten too sensitive.
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Dec 8, 2020 12:51 PM

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Because kids shouldn't be molested or fucked by adults or teens. Idc what u like as long as it isn't actual hardcore CP. If people are into loli or highschoolers then I won't hate, but if you are into little kids and want to actively have sex with them then I don't approve.
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Dec 8, 2020 12:53 PM
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Don't ever try to have nuanced take on paedophilia.
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Understandable, have a nice day...
Dec 9, 2020 7:56 AM

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This is bait but yeah.

If you like kids that is fucked unless you are a kid then carry on i guess?
Lolis are hard because just because someone finds them sexually attractive it doesn't mean they will find real children attractive.

I used to be into them when i was 18-19 not anymore but i was never a pedo nor did i like real children the idea has always been abhorrent and creepy.

Now the issue is some people that are attracted to lolis are pedo so it's safer to just lump everyone into one group for safety and yknow most people will assume if you are attracted to lolis they are childlike so you must like real children now this makes sense but isn't exactly true in all cases but it makes sense so most people will assume that.


So yeah uh.... two take aways

Don't be attracted to real kids
and if your attracted to loli hentai......DON'T FUCKING TELL PEOPLE MY FUCKING GOD KEEP YOUR KINKS TO YOURSELF PEOPLE.

Also those who do like loli hentai don't post it online in discords etc it always makes me feel ill and others feel ill when some dumbass decides it would be funny.
Dec 9, 2020 9:33 AM
This thread is creepy. I would understand if they were attracted to fictional characters who are 15/14 yo or older but below that is creepy. And in real life, you are a pedo if u like kids, ew.
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Dec 9, 2020 10:17 AM
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I'll actually bite the bullet here and provide you with an even hotter take, something most people would feel repulsed by upon hearing it but one that is nevertheless true. There is nothing immoral about being attracted to children. Before typing an unintelligible angry reply think for a second, what makes an act immoral?

The primary criterion would probably be "causing suffering" But that's not sufficient by itself, clearly. A hurricane causes great deal of suffering, but we wouldn't classify it as immoral. Therefore another aspect would have to be added. What is inadequate in hurricane's case to conclude immorality is "an agent capable of moral judgement performing the said threat". But that's still not enough, a hostage doing as they're told under the threat of death would in most scenarios not be considered immoral either. Thus, lastly, we should also add "meaningful level of control over one's actions" (aka. "Ought implies can"). When you plug all 3 considerations into your framework, it'll start to look a lot more intuitive. But it is easy to see that attraction to children fails to meet any of the 3, it does not cause suffering, it is not performed by a moral agent (in the sense that it's not "performed" but a state of being), and it isn't within one's control. Funnily enough, it ticks off even less boxes than the hurricane does.
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being pedophile ≠ molesting children
so many people confuse those terms and if they hear "pedophile" they automatically think of a rapist
nothing wrong with fapping to lolis/cp as long as you don't do anything with children in real life
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Dec 9, 2020 1:27 PM

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Adults liking children sounds pretty disturbing to me idk

I just hope it's a shitpost
Dec 9, 2020 11:56 PM

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good to see quality threads being bumped
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Dec 10, 2020 12:06 AM
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I love how all anti-loli arguments boil down to "being sexually attracted to X is objectively wrong and wicked due to subjective social norms and personal beliefs."
Dec 10, 2020 12:14 AM
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Cuz lolis are supposed to be headpatted and protected not being sexualised. Either way idc what you do, just fap at them without saying anything or else you will be flagged as a lolicon.
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Because it's never a normal thing. Best case scenario it's a fucking disgusting power fantasy.
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its just a 2d drawing no need to freak out over it.

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