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Mar 10, 2016 11:23 PM
#51
hange pls be alive |
Mar 10, 2016 11:31 PM
#52
Truth4Lies said: What is up with the Beast Titan using baseball metaphors? Is he from our time line? That suggest the story line is in the future. I don't think so :D On the contrary - baseball uses old war machine analogies Well, at least, baseball as depicted in manga, although the physics behind the pitch might be actually the same. If you remember the battle in the Pelennor Fields, the orcs attacked Minas Tirith with spoon-like mobile catapults, which are called ballista. Minas Tirith's, on the other hand, are called trebuchets. They are bigger, might be mobile or not, and usually have some sort of a pouch, attached to a very long pole, making for a heavily loaded sling. Before the Fall actually begins with soldiers' heads being hurdled over Wall Maria, which I doubt it could have been done with small or deviant classes alone. So, yeah, the Beast titan's built is ideal for all-range assault on 50 m Walls :L On the chapter: Sorry, but there's no way to win a battle against three powerful shifters with Eren alone. Either the Scouting Legion gets allies or somehow they reach the basement and make the best of what had been concealed there. I have to admit I don't know what power currently resides in Eren. By all means, he should be able to use the coordinator as previously shown. The story with Frieda blurred what power she actually had developed - to erase human memories, remember the First King/Shifter dogmas or human history before the walls, produce hardening, or manipulating titans. |
Mar 11, 2016 1:16 AM
#53
@zellami I'm pretty sure the baseball reference is more hints that wherever the warriors live at is more modern. As the ape titan said, "he is going for a perfect game" which is a baseball reference. There are a lot of hints that where the warriors live is a lot more modern than inside the walls. For eg. Hanji said the serum is a product that has far exceeded our current technology. Another eg. Is Grisha that was able to cure a disease that was incurable in their time. Also this. This is how I think it goes, just like our current modern time, there are some places in the world that are still back in time, like a tribe for eg. So basically people inside the walls are behibd time, while persons outside the walls are much more modern and advance than inside the walls. Also the technology inside the walls is at a standstill since the MP where destroying all the new inventions that were being made. |
keragammingMar 11, 2016 1:37 AM
Mar 11, 2016 1:45 AM
#54
Does anyone know what's up with the Beast Titan scratching his ear, he's been seen doing that quite a few times, his ears can't be that itchy can it. |
Mar 11, 2016 2:02 AM
#55
sim0n2170 said: Does anyone know what's up with the Beast Titan scratching his ear, he's been seen doing that quite a few times, his ears can't be that itchy can it. It's probably a tic. He did the same gesture when he put back in place his glasses in chapter 77 when he was talking with Bertolt and Reiner. He's probably not aware of it and do it too when he is inside his titan. |
Mar 11, 2016 3:45 AM
#56
toutoune134 said: sim0n2170 said: Does anyone know what's up with the Beast Titan scratching his ear, he's been seen doing that quite a few times, his ears can't be that itchy can it. It's probably a tic. He did the same gesture when he put back in place his glasses in chapter 77 when he was talking with Bertolt and Reiner. He's probably not aware of it and do it too when he is inside his titan. I've read somewhere in reddit a conjuncture about him being able to hear from a quite distance. I'm not convinced enough but their points are: - Isayama-sensei doesn't put frames for nothing. The MT scratching his ears must mean something. - The MT only started pitching after Levi's statement of him 'having no balls'. (The MT isn't in the range of hearing that time) Still this might only be due to his fur which he as a human isn't used to. |
Mar 11, 2016 4:07 AM
#57
Sapewloth said: Hisokath said: i think that might be due the relatively small size of the projectiles (Monkey Trouble is crushing the rocks into smaller ones before throwing them) as well their incredible speed. They really aren't that big at all.It was ice to see Jean, who was a coward, take the reins and tell what to do. Giant boulders should crush these soldiers instead of cutting them like a blade. Wtf @asx-nici that might just be me, but I'm not sure the serum can be really used effectively at the moment, mainly because the Survey Corps have 0 way of controlling the (most likely) mindless titan that will result from the injection; Eren can't control the coordinate yet and they have no shifter nearby that the titan could eat easily. I mean, the SC could try and take cover while the mindless titan attacks Reiner or Bert, but I really don't see what it could do against an shifter with human intelligen... Hey! Now that I think about it, it might actually be a good idea! If the SC had someone take the serum and successfully led the mindless titan to Reiner's location, there might be a (very) slight chance that it would manage to eat Reiner before he's finished recovering. Meanwhile Eren would have to distract/defeat Bert so that the mindless titan won't be spotted and one shot'd. Mostly I agree with you. Well, let's see what are the mangaka's plans... :'D |
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Mar 11, 2016 4:41 AM
#58
keragamming said: @zellami I'm pretty sure the baseball reference is more hints that wherever the warriors live at is more modern. As the ape titan said, "he is going for a perfect game" which is a baseball reference. There are a lot of hints that where the warriors live is a lot more modern than inside the walls. For eg. Hanji said the serum is a product that has far exceeded our current technology. Another eg. Is Grisha that was able to cure a disease that was incurable in their time. Also this. This is how I think it goes, just like our current modern time, there are some places in the world that are still back in time, like a tribe for eg. So basically people inside the walls are behibd time, while persons outside the walls are much more modern and advance than inside the walls. Also the technology inside the walls is at a standstill since the MP where destroying all the new inventions that were being made. Also there is the coffee scene, when Armin found the "black drinks". Based on all these, I am pretty sure they live in a more modern world than the Wall people. This whole time issue needs more clarification, starting with chapter one's title and Eren's dream. |
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Mar 11, 2016 5:50 AM
#59
asx-nici said: keragamming said: @zellami I'm pretty sure the baseball reference is more hints that wherever the warriors live at is more modern. As the ape titan said, "he is going for a perfect game" which is a baseball reference. There are a lot of hints that where the warriors live is a lot more modern than inside the walls. For eg. Hanji said the serum is a product that has far exceeded our current technology. Another eg. Is Grisha that was able to cure a disease that was incurable in their time. Also this. This is how I think it goes, just like our current modern time, there are some places in the world that are still back in time, like a tribe for eg. So basically people inside the walls are behibd time, while persons outside the walls are much more modern and advance than inside the walls. Also the technology inside the walls is at a standstill since the MP where destroying all the new inventions that were being made. Also there is the coffee scene, when Armin found the "black drinks". Based on all these, I am pretty sure they live in a more modern world than the Wall people. This whole time issue needs more clarification, starting with chapter one's title and Eren's dream. I am not denying the theory, but the metaphor is kind of meh. Everyone jumped on baseball bandwagon, while hunters call their catch "a game". Here's the dictionary reference: a (1) : animals under pursuit or taken in hunting; especially : wild animals hunted for sport or food (2) : the flesh of game animals b archaic : pluck c : a target or object especially of ridicule or attack —often used in the phrase fair game The Beast Titan could hold a ribbon and accordingly had taken classes in rhythmic gymnastics for all I care :] Hinting the world outside the Walls might be more advanced is nothing new. Yet the BT is kind of late for the party and if the coordinator was so important to the organization outside the walls, they either were clueless where to search or couldn't come closer to the humankind area and snatch it earlier for 107 years. Which doesn't make the outsiders all that advanced, up to a baseball level. This was what I thought. Perhaps I should have phrased myself better. |
Mar 11, 2016 6:54 AM
#60
zellami said: I am not denying the theory, but the metaphor is kind of meh. Everyone jumped on baseball bandwagon, while hunters call their catch "a game". Here's the dictionary reference: a (1) : animals under pursuit or taken in hunting; especially : wild animals hunted for sport or food (2) : the flesh of game animals b archaic : pluck c : a target or object especially of ridicule or attack —often used in the phrase fair game The Beast Titan could hold a ribbon and accordingly had taken classes in rhythmic gymnastics for all I care :] Hinting the world outside the Walls might be more advanced is nothing new. Yet the BT is kind of late for the party and if the coordinator was so important to the organization outside the walls, they either were clueless where to search or couldn't come closer to the humankind area and snatch it earlier for 107 years. Which doesn't make the outsiders all that advanced, up to a baseball level. This was what I thought. Perhaps I should have phrased myself better. Lol... :D :D :D Sure, there must be some reason for them to wait. I think they are more advanced, but just like you mentioned not "up to baseball level". :D The "107 years history" was made up by the Reiss family, probably there were battles before that. That "carts" titan (does it have any spec.name BTW?) called the BT "warchief", so there might be other fights with human communities and like this they could not focus on the Reiss-territory more.(?) That could be a reason why they need the coordinator, otherwise they could just destroy the walls along with Eren. But his ability might be important for fighting somewhere else with a large number of titans. Either way, they do not seem to rush things... Waiting for 5 years between attacking the walls, then uncertain months for the SC to come to Shingashina... Recently, I reread chapter 9 when Eren first came out of his titan and wondered why RAB did not take action then? There were only a few trainees around, even with Mikasa present, killing them and take Eren would not be too much trouble. RAB could even leave one them behind without anyone's suspect to continue the investigation, if Eren happens to be not the coordinate. And why Rod did not find Eren earlier? He knew that Grisha stole Frieda's power. Is it not logical to investigate the people connected to Grisha? Or use Eren to catch him? |
asx-niciMar 11, 2016 6:57 AM
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Mar 11, 2016 7:53 AM
#61
Mar 11, 2016 9:35 AM
#62
asx-nici said: zellami said: I am not denying the theory, but the metaphor is kind of meh. Everyone jumped on baseball bandwagon, while hunters call their catch "a game". Here's the dictionary reference: a (1) : animals under pursuit or taken in hunting; especially : wild animals hunted for sport or food (2) : the flesh of game animals b archaic : pluck c : a target or object especially of ridicule or attack —often used in the phrase fair game The Beast Titan could hold a ribbon and accordingly had taken classes in rhythmic gymnastics for all I care :] Hinting the world outside the Walls might be more advanced is nothing new. Yet the BT is kind of late for the party and if the coordinator was so important to the organization outside the walls, they either were clueless where to search or couldn't come closer to the humankind area and snatch it earlier for 107 years. Which doesn't make the outsiders all that advanced, up to a baseball level. This was what I thought. Perhaps I should have phrased myself better. Lol... :D :D :D Sure, there must be some reason for them to wait. I think they are more advanced, but just like you mentioned not "up to baseball level". :D The "107 years history" was made up by the Reiss family, probably there were battles before that. That "carts" titan (does it have any spec.name BTW?) called the BT "warchief", so there might be other fights with human communities and like this they could not focus on the Reiss-territory more.(?) That could be a reason why they need the coordinator, otherwise they could just destroy the walls along with Eren. But his ability might be important for fighting somewhere else with a large number of titans. Either way, they do not seem to rush things... Waiting for 5 years between attacking the walls, then uncertain months for the SC to come to Shingashina... Recently, I reread chapter 9 when Eren first came out of his titan and wondered why RAB did not take action then? There were only a few trainees around, even with Mikasa present, killing them and take Eren would not be too much trouble. RAB could even leave one them behind without anyone's suspect to continue the investigation, if Eren happens to be not the coordinate. And why Rod did not find Eren earlier? He knew that Grisha stole Frieda's power. Is it not logical to investigate the people connected to Grisha? Or use Eren to catch him? Well, the reason why RBA didn't take action back at Trost might be connected to the recent revelation about Marco's death. Annie was literally forced to disable Marco's gear and the whole thing actually showed her more upset than when she saw Mikasa, Armin and Eren in Stohess. Long story short, being caught red handed by Marco threw them off the horse. The other reason is immediately obvious - the whole frigging army was there. Even I would be slow and cautious in this situation. Third, was Eren himself. It has been discussed here a lot, but bottom-line - Eren turning into a shfiter behind the walls was not something they had expected. RBA knew something about Krista's bloodline, but Ymir's titan popped out of the blue. The later actually hit Reiner and Bert hard during their escape, when they realized Ymir's shifter is courtesy to Berik (their own friend). Honestly, it is more troublesome to explain why they took Eren, without being certain he had the coordinator, than why they chose to lay down at Trost. They kidnapped him as a consolation prize for being busted :D The 5 years spent in waiting are also suspicious. Breaking Wall Maria cannot be considered less than being in some sort of urgency, yet, RBA slept their cell for quite a while, before attacking Trost. True, at the time they couldn't be certain the coordinator wouldn't take effect if they attack again, but this should be clarified by the manga. For the record, neither the reader, nor the trio knew the coordinator had changed its owner and was dormant. So, this is that. About the world. It is exciting, isn't, when you think about it? :) Seriously, behind the Walls is so low-level that everything outside would look if not more advanced then different in a good way, at least. Technologies on one hand, but the political stagnation on the other is really choking and stinky. The Inverted Scripts suggest that half of the population that managed to board ships in the continent was lost before reaching the Walls. Being 'lost' and 'perish' imply different outcomes, so other areas populated with all possible combinations of creatures are indeed hinted. |
Mar 11, 2016 3:18 PM
#63
Mar 11, 2016 10:58 PM
#64
midnightblade said: This situation is looking more and more hopeless .. there's a huge power disparity between Eren and Colossal Titan and now the Monkey Titan is essentially doing the equivalent of multiple simultaneous long range heavy artillery strikes damn. Not sure how our heroes will get out of this. And Armin is crying like a little baby!!! |
Mar 12, 2016 4:33 PM
#65
zellami said: I don't think you should use the english translation as a basis to question the baseball theory: if u look at the raw scans here's wat you see:I am not denying the theory, but the metaphor is kind of meh. Everyone jumped on baseball bandwagon, while hunters call their catch "a game". Here's the dictionary reference: a (1) : animals under pursuit or taken in hunting; especially : wild animals hunted for sport or food (2) : the flesh of game animals b archaic : pluck c : a target or object especially of ridicule or attack —often used in the phrase fair game The Beast Titan could hold a ribbon and accordingly had taken classes in rhythmic gymnastics for all I care :] Hinting the world outside the Walls might be more advanced is nothing new. Yet the BT is kind of late for the party and if the coordinator was so important to the organization outside the walls, they either were clueless where to search or couldn't come closer to the humankind area and snatch it earlier for 107 years. Which doesn't make the outsiders all that advanced, up to a baseball level. This was what I thought. Perhaps I should have phrased myself better. Here Ape-san uses the term "完全試合" (commonly pronunced 'kanzenshiai' but here reads 'perfect game' in furigana): from reading this it appears that the baseball reference was clearly intended by the author. Baseball is not the youngest sport out there either, with accounts of matches taking place in England dating all the way back to the XVIIIth century. So i'd definitely agree that he's not from our timeline (the warrior village(s) would be way too advanced to even bother looking for some random dood with a magical shout when they could just bomb the shit out of everything) but if we use the early years of the sport as a reference point, then that baseball reference already makes a bit more sense. It would still indicate the warrior village(s) being ahead of the wall peasants in terms of tech advancement, but not by a huge margin. |
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Mar 12, 2016 6:50 PM
#66
Sapewloth said: zellami said: I don't think you should use the english translation as a basis to question the baseball theory: if u look at the raw scans here's wat you see:I am not denying the theory, but the metaphor is kind of meh. Everyone jumped on baseball bandwagon, while hunters call their catch "a game". Here's the dictionary reference: a (1) : animals under pursuit or taken in hunting; especially : wild animals hunted for sport or food (2) : the flesh of game animals b archaic : pluck c : a target or object especially of ridicule or attack —often used in the phrase fair game The Beast Titan could hold a ribbon and accordingly had taken classes in rhythmic gymnastics for all I care :] Hinting the world outside the Walls might be more advanced is nothing new. Yet the BT is kind of late for the party and if the coordinator was so important to the organization outside the walls, they either were clueless where to search or couldn't come closer to the humankind area and snatch it earlier for 107 years. Which doesn't make the outsiders all that advanced, up to a baseball level. This was what I thought. Perhaps I should have phrased myself better. Here Ape-san uses the term "完全試合" (commonly pronunced 'kanzenshiai' but here reads 'perfect game' in furigana): from reading this it appears that the baseball reference was clearly intended by the author. Baseball is not the youngest sport out there either, with accounts of matches taking place in England dating all the way back to the XVIIIth century. So i'd definitely agree that he's not from our timeline (the warrior village(s) would be way too advanced to even bother looking for some random dood with a magical shout when they could just bomb the shit out of everything) but if we use the early years of the sport as a reference point, then that baseball reference already makes a bit more sense. It would still indicate the warrior village(s) being ahead of the wall peasants in terms of tech advancement, but not by a huge margin. Exactly. I'm not expecting where they live to be as modern as our current time. But I'm pretty sure they are more modern/advance than inside the walls. Isayama doesn't add in random stuff like that. |
Mar 12, 2016 11:37 PM
#67
After the latest chapter this was not the reaction they got |
Mar 13, 2016 1:10 AM
#68
Damn son they seriously just got soo rekt once again Titans 1000000 - humanity 0 |
Mar 13, 2016 5:00 AM
#69
Sapewloth said: zellami said: I don't think you should use the english translation as a basis to question the baseball theory: if u look at the raw scans here's wat you see:I am not denying the theory, but the metaphor is kind of meh. Everyone jumped on baseball bandwagon, while hunters call their catch "a game". Here's the dictionary reference: a (1) : animals under pursuit or taken in hunting; especially : wild animals hunted for sport or food (2) : the flesh of game animals b archaic : pluck c : a target or object especially of ridicule or attack —often used in the phrase fair game The Beast Titan could hold a ribbon and accordingly had taken classes in rhythmic gymnastics for all I care :] Hinting the world outside the Walls might be more advanced is nothing new. Yet the BT is kind of late for the party and if the coordinator was so important to the organization outside the walls, they either were clueless where to search or couldn't come closer to the humankind area and snatch it earlier for 107 years. Which doesn't make the outsiders all that advanced, up to a baseball level. This was what I thought. Perhaps I should have phrased myself better. Here Ape-san uses the term "完全試合" (commonly pronunced 'kanzenshiai' but here reads 'perfect game' in furigana): from reading this it appears that the baseball reference was clearly intended by the author. Baseball is not the youngest sport out there either, with accounts of matches taking place in England dating all the way back to the XVIIIth century. So i'd definitely agree that he's not from our timeline (the warrior village(s) would be way too advanced to even bother looking for some random dood with a magical shout when they could just bomb the shit out of everything) but if we use the early years of the sport as a reference point, then that baseball reference already makes a bit more sense. It would still indicate the warrior village(s) being ahead of the wall peasants in terms of tech advancement, but not by a huge margin. Oh well, OK, one thing cleared. I don't speak Japanese, so this is on me. Thanks for the clarification. |
Mar 13, 2016 5:47 AM
#70
No problem 👍 ........................... |
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Mar 13, 2016 8:55 AM
#71
I think you guys dive too deep into this baseball references. personally I think it's some kind of japanese puns on war terminologies. |
Mar 13, 2016 7:57 PM
#72
_ Humans in an awful situation again [again, again, again and again]. _ If Eren is not being kidnapped, he is getting rekt - CHECK _ Good to see Armin not being the smart one who can solve all problems everytime. He is still human. _ I can't stand the beast titan. I hope he gets killed soon. _ I REALLY HOPE REINER IS NOT COMING BACK _ Hanji don't die. I love you! *waiting patiently Eren get filled with rage and turn the tables. This makes justice to the shounen classification |
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Mar 14, 2016 1:36 PM
#73
Eren got fuckin reckt, jesus lmao everyone's dead and he just got slammed into the wall, wonder what asspull will get them out of this |
Mar 15, 2016 3:06 AM
#74
Dayum, survey corps is getting completely rekt. |
Mar 15, 2016 4:16 AM
#75
Terminus99 said: Guess that Reiner wasn't exaggerating when he said that Bertholdt was the strongest of them, I really wasn't expecting Eren to lose this badly. what can you expect when a "little" titan like Eren is running to fight that "huge" colossal Titan?? ;) |
Mar 15, 2016 4:18 AM
#76
midnightblade said: This situation is looking more and more hopeless .. there's a huge power disparity between Eren and Colossal Titan and now the Monkey Titan is essentially doing the equivalent of multiple simultaneous long range heavy artillery strikes damn. Not sure how our heroes will get out of this. well, this time they came fully prepared and also with very sharp tactics...so if our heroes can't pick out some ideas, we will see despair ahead :/ |
Mar 15, 2016 3:51 PM
#77
Dang. Losing Hange was probably the worst death for me out of all of the ones so far. Also, I wonder why Berthold is so insistent on killing them all even though he admits that none of them are really evil. The cruelest part is not having an explanation. |
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Mar 16, 2016 4:46 AM
#78
Mar 16, 2016 4:28 PM
#79
Eren has become a lot useless in those latest chapters , well the situation doesn't look good , Armin failed to think of a plan |
Mar 16, 2016 5:49 PM
#80
BadToTheBone said: HollowIchigo58 said: Armin is very intelligent and able to see the larger picture, but he is an excellent advisor, not a leader, at least not yet. Also Armin, pussy, I actully don't care if he dies, I always found him really annoying, mostly in the dub. He corrected Hange's mistake putting the correct person in charge instead, someone far more decisive and with leadership capabilities; in a normal unit this uncertainty would be crushing for morale but they are a platoon of friends that have known each other from the start, I think they all understand Armin's decision. And it beats the alternative, their leader freezing not knowing what to do at the worst moment. Precisely. Armin maybe smart, but that's not enough for leadership qualities. He can spot important things and advise his team accordingly, no doubt. But for now, that's all Armin is good for. Military leader, no. Military strategist, yes. |
Mar 20, 2016 11:17 AM
#82
Yes , situation is really miserable. It's complete shit. Eren's control ability might help them though. Wonder what Erwin's plan is. |
Mar 20, 2016 6:44 PM
#83
Wtf... I'm getting tired of the titans winning every damn time, I don't even feel anything anymore, just boredom, I was hoping that the SC would win without some deus ex machina, but lets see what happens next, since eren is on top of the wall if berthold walks towards him he could use the opportunity to destroy his eyes or something lol |
Mar 21, 2016 4:47 PM
#84
Am I the only one who's freakin tired of the plot going nowhere, month after month, after month again? FFS, it's pissing me off. Just make something interesting happen already. The pacing in this manga is downright terrrible. |
Mar 24, 2016 11:28 AM
#86
Didn't Mikasa have the control ability and they thought it was Eren |
Mar 24, 2016 3:39 PM
#87
FluffLynn said: If you're referring to the co ordinates ability that controls Titans then Eren is the one who has it not Mikasa.Didn't Mikasa have the control ability and they thought it was Eren |
Mar 25, 2016 2:31 PM
#88
sim0n2170 said: FluffLynn said: If you're referring to the co ordinates ability that controls Titans then Eren is the one who has it not Mikasa.Didn't Mikasa have the control ability and they thought it was Eren Oh, ok u_u I had a vague recollection that, when that ability "surfaced", Eren and Mikasa were together and that's why everyone thought it was Eren who did it... But with such rare manga updates I forget things so yeah my bad ^^' thanks |
Mar 28, 2016 12:05 PM
#89
I honestly don't think that reiner and berthold are gonna die. |
Mar 29, 2016 6:02 AM
#90
Apr 10, 2016 7:39 AM
#91
Jun 22, 2016 10:06 PM
#92
Everything is fucked. |
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Feb 14, 2017 1:00 AM
#93
Apr 16, 2017 4:06 PM
#94
That ape titan is indeed a pussy. Throwing stones from a distance lol. |
Sep 10, 2017 11:46 AM
#95
They're in deep shit right now, better think something soon! |
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