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Nov 6, 2015 2:50 PM

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okay no one knows what they are talking about. Here is the answer why there isn;t more shows like ergo proxy. Manglobe started making solid shows. They did champloo , then ergo proxy, and helped out with gurran lagann. But guess what? Japan didn't like champloo or ergo proxy. Those shows sales were bad and manglobe was forced to make shitty shows that Japanese otakus love. It's unfortunate that good shows don't do well there. But companies can't take risks making something unique because it 99% wont sell well.
Brace yourself.

Soon as LotGH 2017 comes out. The anime community is going to become so cancerous you will need to take cover and hide.
Nov 10, 2015 6:01 AM

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Randoll_ said:
ghoullovesharem said:

why is that?

Basically, it stopped being a good prediction of our future some time ago. Humanity has shown that it still has enough will to live and moral strength to avert it. We will likely see cyborgization and lots of computers and in our lifetime, but it isn't going to be punky. So now, cyberpunk is as empty as steampunk.

Other sci-fi remains relevant (maybe Fractale), but cyberpunk is not.

If you look on the internet, you can find some good articles about it.
Nov 10, 2015 6:06 AM

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Nowadays anime viewers can't bear the idea of something they watch making them think. Anything and everything in last few years that is above the most simplistic "They need to go from point A to point B and there are explosions" gets called "confusing" or "impossible to understand" and rated lowly.

We are talking about the age when add kitsch like OPM or overlord is rated higher than the likes of Casshern Sins, Texhnolyze or Lain.
Nov 10, 2015 6:07 AM
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Because anime like Ergo Proxy doesn't sell well in Japan.

It may have long legs and actually make the studio money in the long run, but it's not a good short term investment.
Nov 10, 2015 11:15 AM

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Because writers and directors don't have as much creative freedom as they did in the early-mid 00s.
Take care of yourself

Nov 10, 2015 11:24 AM

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CookingPriest said:

We are talking about the age when add kitsch like OPM or overlord is rated higher than the likes of Casshern Sins, Texhnolyze or Lain.

They're franchises that will last unlike those series that come on go.
And they have more to offer than those 3 which aren't worth their price.
Nov 10, 2015 11:33 AM

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romagia said:
studio manglobe is literally dead lol

and no; i want more ecchi battle harem light novel adaptations of 13 episodes.. is this what you want to hear?

hey those titles sell compared to ergo proxy
Nov 10, 2015 1:44 PM

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I wish there was more anime like Ergo Proxy OP. Sadly, the demand in Japan is loli girls and fanservice.
Nov 10, 2015 2:18 PM
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I mean, it's not like they're never, ever, ever gonna make another philosphical anime ever.
Nov 10, 2015 2:27 PM

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It doesn't sell ?
Wohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Nov 10, 2015 2:49 PM
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Shinseki Yori and Yuri Kuma Arashi are fairly recent anime, and both of them have depth and philosophical ideas.
Apr 6, 2016 9:57 PM

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I dont want Ergo Proxy, I want Konosuba.
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Apr 6, 2016 11:03 PM

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Fai said:
Nowadays anime viewers can't bear the idea of something they watch making them think. Anything and everything in last few years that is above the most simplistic "They need to go from point A to point B and there are explosions" gets called "confusing" or "impossible to understand" and rated lowly.

We are talking about the age when add kitsch like OPM or overlord is rated higher than the likes of Casshern Sins, Texhnolyze or Lain.

Last time I checked Shinsekai Yori was rated 80th on MAL which I think is pretty high. Besides, what do you mean with 'nowadays'? This has been going on for ages already. The reason why we generally remember the more complex stuff is because they often become (cult)classics.
Apr 6, 2016 11:16 PM

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romagia said:
studio manglobe is literally dead lol

^^^
hell it's probably due to shows like ergo proxy that they're gone forever

Randoll_ said:
romagia said:
studio manglobe is literally dead lol

and no; i want more ecchi battle harem light novel adaptations of 13 episodes.. is this what you want to hear?

They are dead because they stopped making good anime, so why is anime killing itself? Next studio to follow is Madhouse it seems.

What do you like so much about ecchi battle harem light novel adaptations of 13 episodes?

yeah the studio that's been around since the 70s, has like a million owners and still produces tons of successful shows every year is gonna die soon
in other news dragon ball is more profitable than precure and toei's execs are commiting sudoku

speaking of the number 13 manglobe only existed for 13 years lol
Apr 6, 2016 11:33 PM

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Hey dude, this may seem a little weird, but hear me out on this.

Nana, Ergo Proxy, and Mushishi. All those shows kind of share something in common. They are all different genres, but kind of appeal to something. I remember someone explained it to me and it was really cool. I don't remember, but perhaps those 2 other shows could be something you like. They are very different, but something about them lol.
Brace yourself.

Soon as LotGH 2017 comes out. The anime community is going to become so cancerous you will need to take cover and hide.
Apr 7, 2016 12:45 AM

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I guess it's harder to convince the studios to invent in weird anime, and the fanbase for it is smaller.
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Apr 7, 2016 12:54 AM

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Because the average anime viewer is fucking retarded.

THERE I SAID IT!
Apr 7, 2016 2:10 AM

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Because they were never popular, did not make money, and weren't really that good.
Apr 7, 2016 2:26 AM

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Wait so EP is more easily watchable than the chiaki konaka trilogy? (SEL, Haibane and Texhnolyze)

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Apr 7, 2016 3:09 AM

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Melkaticox said:
romagia said:
studio manglobe is literally dead lol

^^^
hell it's probably due to shows like ergo proxy that they're gone forever

Randoll_ said:

They are dead because they stopped making good anime, so why is anime killing itself? Next studio to follow is Madhouse it seems.

What do you like so much about ecchi battle harem light novel adaptations of 13 episodes?

yeah the studio that's been around since the 70s, has like a million owners and still produces tons of successful shows every year is gonna die soon
in other news dragon ball is more profitable than precure and toei's execs are commiting sudoku
madhouse already die once thou. if not because NTV , they already has same fate as manglobe.
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Apr 7, 2016 6:04 AM

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We still have Psycho-Pass though, have you seen the movie?

And we're talking about similarity here; not the quality.
Apr 7, 2016 6:09 AM
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Because the average anime viewer is fucking retarded.

THERE I SAID IT!


You know, it's not nice to insult retarded people like that...
Apr 7, 2016 6:26 AM

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Melkaticox said:
romagia said:
studio manglobe is literally dead lol

^^^
hell it's probably due to shows like ergo proxy that they're gone forever
i'd rather also blame samurai flamenco, gangsta, and those lame hayate no gotoku sequels which are quite different from ergo proxy
Apr 7, 2016 7:57 AM

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Randoll_ said:
romagia said:
studio manglobe is literally dead lol

and no; i want more ecchi battle harem light novel adaptations of 13 episodes.. is this what you want to hear?

They are dead because they stopped making good anime, so why is anime killing itself? Next studio to follow is Madhouse it seems.

What do you like so much about ecchi battle harem light novel adaptations of 13 episodes?

Eh, Madhouse aren't going away anytime soon, not with the cash cow that is One Punch Man under their belts.

OPM has become successful outside of japan, and whenever that happens the production staff behind it are usually subsequently considered "big boyz" in the industry.
Apr 7, 2016 8:45 AM

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Because

1. Not every writer is good enough to pull off such complex plots.
2. Not everyone is smart enough to understand wtfs going on in such shows.
3. Due to the aforementioned reasons, they choose to not take any risks and stick to what they know best; highschool romance harems with dense MCs..

And what do you mean by 'anymore'?
They are being made, just not as often..
Apr 7, 2016 8:46 AM

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Wensbane said:
JkayW said:
Because the average anime viewer is fucking retarded.

THERE I SAID IT!


You know, it's not nice to insult retarded people like that...


Wait let me find the gif.

Or video it should be somewhere

*Finds video*

*Puts VHS into machine*

*Presses play*

Apr 7, 2016 1:01 PM

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romagia said:
Melkaticox said:

^^^
hell it's probably due to shows like ergo proxy that they're gone forever
i'd rather also blame samurai flamenco, gangsta, and those lame hayate no gotoku sequels which are quite different from ergo proxy

I'd say they kind of have the same "problems" ergo had. They're a lot more serious/western (except hayate, which I think is one of the few things they made that sold decently? or am I mixing that up with something else?) than the productions that tend to actually sell.
Poor manglobe. They never stood a chance.

Kuma said:
Melkaticox said:

^^^
hell it's probably due to shows like ergo proxy that they're gone forever


yeah the studio that's been around since the 70s, has like a million owners and still produces tons of successful shows every year is gonna die soon
in other news dragon ball is more profitable than precure and toei's execs are commiting sudoku
madhouse already die once thou. if not because NTV , they already has same fate as manglobe.

Yeah, I know about that. But afaik they didn't really have that many successful productions in the 2000s before NTV bought them.
They did a lot better (NGNL, OPM, Oremono, HunHun) post-acquisition.
Apr 7, 2016 1:55 PM

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Melkaticox said:
romagia said:
i'd rather also blame samurai flamenco, gangsta, and those lame hayate no gotoku sequels which are quite different from ergo proxy

I'd say they kind of have the same "problems" ergo had. They're a lot more serious/western (except hayate, which I think is one of the few things they made that sold decently? or am I mixing that up with something else?) than the productions that tend to actually sell.
Poor manglobe. They never stood a chance.
@hayate, no, not at all; it sold significantly lower than the non-manglobe seasons

the only manglobe that sold significantly over the manabi line is Karneval at 5k

you know you can easily check those, right? http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view
Apr 7, 2016 2:20 PM

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romagia said:
Melkaticox said:

I'd say they kind of have the same "problems" ergo had. They're a lot more serious/western (except hayate, which I think is one of the few things they made that sold decently? or am I mixing that up with something else?) than the productions that tend to actually sell.
Poor manglobe. They never stood a chance.
@hayate, no, not at all; it sold significantly lower than the non-manglobe seasons

the only manglobe that sold significantly over the manabi line is Karneval at 5k

you know you can easily check those, right? http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view

right right it was the world only god knows and karneval
at least they gave us samflam

and yeah I know but fact checking can be annoying with my slow ass shit ass pc
Apr 7, 2016 5:40 PM

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Because the Japanese make things that appeal to the Japanese not us...unless we pay them enough.
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Jun 12, 2016 8:19 PM

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Because people don't like watching stuff that makes them think or feel afraid that the show might be too intellectual and hard to comprehend. Shows nowadays must be easy-going, normal, and simplistic or else it will end up being classified as "pretentious-trash" by the eyes of many.

-Mastergold.
Jun 12, 2016 8:34 PM

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I wonder how many more of these "modern animu sux" or "blame da otakus!!1!" answers we're gonna get here.
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This show had so much fucking potential to be a classic. Then it just became a "better than average" anime around the middle of the series. I'm not sure why, either. I have a feeling the writers outlined the story, but then had about 4 episodes left to fill in after all was said and done. It's just striking because it starts off as this really dark sci fi anime that kind of defies convention, especially anime convention, in its coherence and thematic steadiness. Then it randomly pops in with the infamous gameshow episode. Followed by an episode where literally nothing happens and the point is that the main character smiles for the first time. Then just a few episodes later, a theme park episode. But the episode that randomly throws them into a game show and gives no before/after explanation as to how the fuck they arrived there or how they escaped was like an insult to my intelligence. There's nothing worse than someone who knows they're making something good, so they sabotage it on purpose. Ergo Proxy wasn't a huge franchise. It didn't need to defy its own expectations. It just needed to set a mood and stay with it and tell a coherent story, which it had every opportunity to do, but didn't. Crashing a car on purpose and crashing a car on accident give you the same result in the end. Maybe that's why they didn't make more shit like it. Because there's not much of an audience for the weird middle ground between great art and for-shit schmaltz. Even less for self indulgent purposely clever tripe.
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Because it was pretentious and terrible. Also, the studio who made it is dead.
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