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Jun 3, 2015 11:52 PM

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And just googling it would've been too hard for you?
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Jun 4, 2015 12:25 AM
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Could be some things called the Sino-Japanese wars.
Jun 4, 2015 1:10 AM

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Comic_Sans said:
And just googling it would've been too hard for you?


Never heard of google. What is it?
Jun 4, 2015 11:22 AM

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One must always have an enemy, preferably one close by.
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Jun 4, 2015 11:58 AM

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Other Asian countries hating Japan probably stems from them never having admitted their war crimes.
Jun 4, 2015 4:03 PM

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because they're siblings, and siblings like to fight each other :-p

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I don't care, I equally hate all of them.

Asians are fucking ugly.


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Jun 4, 2015 9:22 PM
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They still totally do?

And even if they do, it's the older generations and nationalists, not everyone else.
Jun 5, 2015 7:46 AM

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Bloodshade said:
Japan, China, South Korea all hate each other.
North Korea hates everyone.


Not really NK actually has a good relationship with The Republic Of China (one half of China), it's The Peoples Republic Of China that NK has issues with. Even though the Chinese Civil War has ended their are still hostilities between the two government bodies with land, relations, and power. Today though when we talk about China we usually either talk about it as a whole or just identify with The Peoples Republic Of China.
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Jun 5, 2015 7:54 AM

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lolatusenpai said:
Yes i am aware of the events in WW2.

That doesn't explain why chinese people appreciate japanese entertainment so much.


What kind of question is that? They like it because it is good entrainment that fits their taste. They also like US entertainment and they ain't exactly best friends with them ether. Is like asking why you like a song. There is no reason. We just like it because it is a nice song. Isn't that simple?
Jun 5, 2015 8:00 AM

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because they're too childish to let go of the past.
Jun 5, 2015 8:44 AM

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BlueScarf said:
lolatusenpai said:
Yes i am aware of the events in WW2.

That doesn't explain why chinese people appreciate japanese entertainment so much.
Not much Chinese really have beef with the Japanese. Most of the nip hate comes from old people/nationalist (history, wars, and whatnot) and certain politicians (island territory conflict).


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because they're too childish to let go of the past.


You obviously haven't heard of the 'Aboriginals' lol
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Jun 5, 2015 8:55 AM

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There was actually a article in a Belgian newspaper yesterday or 2 days ago about how "A Japanese comic character is helping Japan and China grow a little closer to each other". It was about Doraemon and that the new movie is like super popular in China, and that it's the first anime movie since (I think 2012) that is allowed to air in Chinese cinema's


It's one of the few times I've read something about manga/anime that wasn't related to a convention in a Belgium newspaper
Jun 5, 2015 9:08 AM
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They do? Didn't know about that.
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Some bad blood
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Jun 5, 2015 11:27 AM

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Porofy said:
History.
Jun 5, 2015 2:17 PM

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Most Japanese don't care all that much about China, to be honest. The ネトウヨ and such are busier making fun of Koreans.
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DesuTronic said:
Porofy said:
History.
Dec 11, 2015 10:36 PM
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Japanese are of different stock of people : haplogroup O2b1 (47z) > Austro-Asiatic
Chinese are of haplogroup O3a3c1a (M134) > Sino-TIbetan

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They have a really bloody history. I heard the Rape of Nanking is still controversial in Japan. It's hard to re-build a relationship after so much blood.
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Dec 12, 2015 5:37 AM

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the 2nd sino-japanese war, major war crimes committed during the Japanese occupation of parts of china ... japan didn't really apologize for them. that is the short version, google the " rape of Nanking" if you want to know more details.
Dec 12, 2015 5:39 AM

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The Japanese were real bastards so much so that im not surprised China is still pissed. I bet when they get their war machine rolling thats going to be their first stop.
Dec 12, 2015 5:53 AM

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Uhm... I watched Ip Man, so it might be
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History.
Dec 12, 2015 5:54 AM

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Still salty about the war obv
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Didius said:
Japanese are of different stock of people : haplogroup O2b1 (47z) > Austro-Asiatic
Chinese are of haplogroup O3a3c1a (M134) > Sino-TIbetan



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Dec 12, 2015 6:54 AM

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They think that they are the better -nese and the other having japa- or chin- is a complete disgrace for the -nese.
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lolatusenpai said:
It is to my knowledge that the chinese absolutely love japanese anime. I have to meet anyone who hasn't watched anime. And kanji alphabet in japanese is pretty much borrowed from china as far as I'm aware of.

And yet, on a political and social level both the chinese and japanese apparently despise each other according to wikipedia.

Why is that? Any political, sociological and philoscophical experts on the subject here?


For the most part history, but China is a communist country while Japan is (for the most part) Democratic.
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As a Chinese citizen, I don't think Chinese feud with Japanese/Korea lasted as long as 1000 years. In the past, China was a nation much greater in terms of economics and military power compared to Japan and Korea. In fact, Korea used to be loosely a part of China (every year it gives goods to China in return for protection), and although I am not exactly sure about Japan, it was kind of the same deal in terms of power balance. In the past, it was really the Chinese who "bullied" Japan, just like how a powerful nation like US do nowadays around the world. Sure, there were some skirmishes between Japan and China, but in the past Chinese always regarded Japanese as barbarians because, well, they used to be much less advanced in everything.

The hate of Chinese on Japan really started in the recent 100-200 years of history, starting with Japan as a part of 8-nations army that invaded the last dynasty of Imperial China. Afterward, China was divided by civil wars so technology development backtracked while Japan advanced. A lot of things happened even before WWII, usually Chinese government losing a war and is forced to sign an unequal treaty that gives gold, silver, and land to Japan. However, do note that in this period it is not just Japanese that bully China. Britain, Germany, US, France, etc. all the more powerful nations do the same thing to China and with greater frequency.

So what makes China "hate" Japan the most? Well, yes, like posters have said, the second world war, Japanese army killed a lot of Chinese civilians, Massacre of Nanjing, etc. 30 million dead makes China the country with the most casualty in WWII, and most of them civilians against their will, almost all of whom killed by Japanese imperial army (and some of them killed by the Japanese-controlled-Chinese-government army, btw). This kind of memory is not easily forgotten in any case, and in some ways should never be forgotten (in the way of always praying for peace because the war is so devastating). The hate stayed because the communist party (that won the civil war after WWII) focused on these kinds of propaganda . Why? Also like above posters have said, if all citizens focus on a common enemy, then they would focus less on the bad things that's happening within the country. Sort of like the Lelouch ideal, except it is for gov't control rather than world peace. To be fair, Japanese is pretty much doing the same things nowadays of trying to certain extent shift citizens' antagonism toward China and Korea, so that citizens don't notice how bad their economy has really been. I suspect China will be practising more of this in the future as well seeing as Chinese economy is projected to slow down.

And fyi, all I am saying is that these kind of sentiments kind of exist, but obviously not all Chinese hate Japanese. In fact, most Chinese don't hate Japanese, or wouldn't make hating Japanese part of their daily agenda. I would agree that more people dislike Japanese gov't though. For Chinese citizens, there are very good reasons for that. To this day, Japanese government still worships their past leaders in their sacred temple, including few of the commanders who orchestrated Japanese invasion and massacre in China and is put on trial for doing so, for example. Though, it's not like Chinese people living in China not satisfied with Chinese government doesn't exist, lol.

To close this post, and truly answer OP's question, there is nothing inherent contradictory about some Chinese loving Japanese anime and some Chinese absolutely despising Japanese (government) in general. China is a big country. It is the biggest country in the world. There are 1.4 billion people in China, making up 20% of the population on Earth. People who think differently are bound to exist, especially given a very relevant historical reason for doing so.

tl;dr
> the "hate" really started in the recent 100-200 years
> WWII is the main reason, when Japanese murdered a lot of Chinese citizens
> not everyone in China hate Japan; all sorts of different people have all sorts of different opinions
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Veronin said:
Most Japanese don't care all that much about China, to be honest.
They don't care because they weren't the ones being attacked during the war.
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