Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
New
What did you think of this episode?
DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
Pages (3) « 1 [2] 3 »
Feb 15, 2015 3:28 PM
Offline
Jul 2018
564488
I totally thought that after Angelise was manipulated, Hilda would come in and save her by kissing her confirming Hilda x Ange.

An OK episode nonetheless, we did get a grasp on who Embroyo is, and how he's managed to manipulate others. It seems he's even used Alektra, but I'm sure as of now Embroyo only cares about having Angelise with him.

P.S we can't forget about that BDSM!
Feb 15, 2015 4:23 PM
Offline
Dec 2014
41
Silent7 said:
sonakoto said:
I think the tweet of Fukuda you are talking about is this
マインドコントロールね<MC
translate it with google means
I Mind Control <MC

The katakana there translates to Mind Control, and the hiragana ne probably isn't intended as i, me there so it's MC > Mind Control which theoretically means Ange will be able to overcome the mind control magic, again?
[/quote]

Actually I think this post of his was intended for this episode as he posted it on Sunday, Mindcontrol < MC the "<" could mean Ange overcame it, so yea maybe?

Anyway still bothered by that black Villkiss with a red outline in the opening, if Ange will be joining Embryo's team for a while, it might be for some other reason than mindbreak
Feb 15, 2015 4:42 PM

Offline
Oct 2014
70
GAWD Embryo pisses me off

at the end are they hinting that Jill's still under the control of Embryo's manipulation or are they just showing that she's struggling internally with that fact that she was manipulated by him in the past and she's overcoming it?
Hilda's reaction makes me think it may be the former but idk
Feb 15, 2015 4:53 PM

Offline
Jul 2010
8334
Embryo is such a manwhore, good to see Ange snap out of the mind rape fast.
Feb 15, 2015 6:24 PM

Offline
Jun 2014
2800
Embryo has quite the harem.
Feb 16, 2015 4:46 AM

Offline
Jan 2013
4064
So everyone's being mind controlled by their weakness, and a little of seduction.
I was expecting Ange to point the gun at her sister, shame it didn't happen.
Tho I loved when she started killing Embryo.

Nothing better than a main villain that is immortal so that the main character can kill him over and over.
Feb 16, 2015 12:48 PM

Offline
Jan 2013
1637
beccca14 said:
Was anyone else pissed that Ange left Riza in the library to most likely be whipped again by her sister when Embryo said he wanted to talk to her?! Seriously, you can take a few minutes to undo that face mask and argue with Embryo about letting her go. Or at least put Momika in charge of her. Don't just leave her there.
Ange's sister has killed 0 people. She's just a super bitch. Lizardia is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of dragons.
Tres_Bandidas said:
Embyro is a manipulating piece of shit, so did he also banged Salia, Chris and Ersha?

Lol why are so many people hung up on Embryo's sexual life XD. Here's what you should know about embryo. He gives you what you want... technically.

Salia: In the beginning she was the harsh on the outside little girl on the inside type. She read books where a prince charming whisks her away and needs her in his life. Embryo did that for her

Chris: This one's kinda hard... She's always been a background character. They show this with her character design and overall plot relevance. Her sexual orientation is lesbian but that's not the main reason she was in the yuri triad. The main reason she was a part of a group is because she wants that companionship. The reason Chris didn't want Rosalie to leave her wasn't purely romantic, but because she doesn't want to be alone.

Ersha: Ersha's always been shown to be fond of children. She was always seen hanging around Vivian and we know she was born? (Wait... how...) and raised in Arzenal like most of the other kids. Her sexual orientation doesn't matter because what she wants is a safe place for the children of Arzenal.

Jill's complicated. We know that embryo got her during the mission where she was sent to kill him. Maybe what Jill really wants is a normal life which is why the scene felt like the inside of a house.

From the preview it seems like we're finally going to get an explanation of why there are 2 seperate earths. What other loose ends do they need to tie?
The only other thing i can think of is that when Ange first meets Salamandinay she get's flashbacks of past lives where they meet in different circumstances... most of them as enemies.
Feb 16, 2015 2:16 PM

Offline
Sep 2007
503
beccca14 said:
Was anyone else pissed that Ange left Riza in the library to most likely be whipped again by her sister when Embryo said he wanted to talk to her?! Seriously, you can take a few minutes to undo that face mask and argue with Embryo about letting her go. Or at least put Momika in charge of her. Don't just leave her there.

I was thinking about that. Must admit i don't remember exactly about all the bad things she did. But she needed help at the moment and Ange didn't give a damn despite working with the Dragoons.

Another thing. Embryo is powerful enough to resurrect people but he can't heal a girl in wheelchair? So lame ^^.
.
Feb 16, 2015 2:37 PM

Offline
Oct 2014
70
Inuki said:
beccca14 said:
Was anyone else pissed that Ange left Riza in the library to most likely be whipped again by her sister when Embryo said he wanted to talk to her?! Seriously, you can take a few minutes to undo that face mask and argue with Embryo about letting her go. Or at least put Momika in charge of her. Don't just leave her there.

I was thinking about that. Must admit i don't remember exactly about all the bad things she did. But she needed help at the moment and Ange didn't give a damn despite working with the Dragoons.

Another thing. Embryo is powerful enough to resurrect people but he can't heal a girl in wheelchair? So lame ^^.


I'm glad other people were thinking about that too. Even if she did do some bad things, I don't think Ange even knew about the worst ones but she knew she was an ally by then. I was pretty disappointed when she hardly batted an eye.

And yeah I don't really get Embryo's power -- sometimes it seems really op and other times I think he should have been able to use his power better. It's like he's got some godly powers but he's super lacking with it other places.
Feb 16, 2015 3:52 PM

Offline
Jan 2013
1637
The reason why the dragons failed their Aura reclamation advance was because Lizardia betrayed the dragons and gave Embryo information such as when and where the dragons would appear. The dragons no longer had the element of surprise and had to retreat almost immediately. They suffered heavy losses.

Lizardia betrayed the dragons and caused the death of hundreds of them willingly. It was also Lizardia that put Ange's brother up to revealing her status as a Norma to all of Misurugi completely ruining Ange's life.

Ange's little sister is fucked up in the head because her family's gone and she doesn't know who to blame.

Now, I'm not saying that the scene was good, but I think since we're reaching the final stretch Fukuda wanted to show at least slightly that Lizardia got some punishment from her actions even though Embryo's probably the one who put her up to it. Maybe the way Embryo doesn't give a shit about Lizardia will be the kink in Embryo's persuasiveness... Either way, Lizardia's got a lot of blood on her hands. Ange's sister doesnt.

Honestly, I think Earth2 might be a copy universe of Earth1... maybe digital? Where Embryo's got administrative privileges. I'm pretty sure Embryo created the RagnaMail and caused the destruction of Earth1 albeit indirectly and in order to make up for his mistake, he made Earth2 and is trying to turn it into a utopia. A world where global conflicts like the one that destroyed Earth1 do not occur.

I think that fits in with his name too. Embryo - creator of a lot of things.

Also... about the wheelchair thing. He honestly doesn't care so she's still in a wheelchair. I don't think it's about whether or not he can or can't, it's whether or not he wants too.
Feb 16, 2015 3:58 PM

Offline
May 2014
5645
neww shipp

momoka x light of raping mana :")
Feb 16, 2015 6:59 PM

Offline
Jul 2008
220
amazing how ppl define tusk as a main character on mal when he rarely shows up
After I Crush Your Dreams......
Your Bones Will Follow......
Feb 16, 2015 7:12 PM

Offline
Jun 2013
1140
And we were this close to making a bunch of SJW's cry and throw tantrums.. oh well, maybe next time...
Feb 16, 2015 7:17 PM

Offline
Jun 2014
1377
The sound felt off in the first part. anyone else notice that?
I feel like Chris And Ersha(?) are the only ones with a legit reason to join Embryo. Chris was shot in the head, and revived, and Ersha saw him bring back all the dead girls. Salia? welll she.... uhhh.... Almost drowned?
And this show CONTINUES to impress me. This went from a show I ABSOLUTELY thought I would hate, to one where i cant wait to see the next episode.
Be sure to message me if you quoted me and want me to respond! Just give me a link to the forum, because usually I leave my comment, then leave the forum.
Feb 16, 2015 7:20 PM

Offline
Jan 2013
1637
Takala said:
amazing how ppl define tusk as a main character on mal when he rarely shows up

Hmmm... out of all the characters in the anime, who knows the most about the world, and shows up the most often.

I'd say Hilda, Rosalie, Chris, Jill, and Salia don't really know all the sides to the story. I mean they might've heard of it, but only 3 characters. Ange, Tusk, and Viviane technically really KNOW the plights of all 3 factions in the world (Arzenal, Dragon, Embryo) Viviane doesn't really even know Embryo faction all that well.

Salamandinay is a contestant for Main but she's the leader of a faction so unless the story's focusing on that faction she wont get much screen time.

I also don't think Tusk is a main character because he doesn't show up as often as Ange, but I'll say he discovers the truths about the world at around the same pace as Ange, and he's Ange's love interest so there's that.
Feb 16, 2015 7:52 PM

Offline
Oct 2014
70
TitanAnteus said:
Also... about the wheelchair thing. He honestly doesn't care so she's still in a wheelchair. I don't think it's about whether or not he can or can't, it's whether or not he wants too.


I think you're probably right about that. He might even prefer that she stay in the wheelchair
Feb 17, 2015 1:12 AM

Offline
May 2013
2766
Its already 19 episodes and I can't get enough of this show, lmao.
The world shall know the truth soon.
Feb 17, 2015 1:22 AM

Offline
Sep 2013
3999
SweetCoconut said:
Its already 19 episodes and I can't get enough of this show, lmao.


+ 1


That Alektra's plan though, wasn't bad, if it wasn't for Ange opposition there was a high chance of success.

I'm still curious as for the real nature of Embryo's powers.
Once an alt always an alt! | ( ˇ෴ˇ ) | I ♥ Music
Feb 17, 2015 3:05 AM

Offline
Feb 2008
2094
Embryo seems to be quite the manipulator indeed. Almost got Ange.
Feb 17, 2015 10:00 AM
Offline
Sep 2011
1782
ex_necross said:
And we were this close to making a bunch of SJW's cry and throw tantrums.. oh well, maybe next time...


I don't think people are nearly as upset with this show as you think or want them to be. And after all this time I don't think anyone's suddenly going to complain about anything this show does after what has already happened for 19 episodes.
Feb 17, 2015 10:40 AM

Offline
Jun 2008
15842
KazuhoYoshii said:
I'm not entirely sold on the writing of this episode. There's a part in which she accuses Embryo of killing people/dragons, and her brother - but did she somehow forget she was going to do that herself, with the Villkiss's beam sword?


Maybe she considers her brother a victim of embryo in general. For example yes she was willing to kill him but maybe she sees it as a case of having to kill him because he became a lunatic after being manipulated by Embryo etc.

TitanAnteus said:
The reason why the dragons failed their Aura reclamation advance was because Lizardia betrayed the dragons and gave Embryo information such as when and where the dragons would appear. The dragons no longer had the element of surprise and had to retreat almost immediately. They suffered heavy losses.

Lizardia betrayed the dragons and caused the death of hundreds of them willingly. It was also Lizardia that put Ange's brother up to revealing her status as a Norma to all of Misurugi completely ruining Ange's life.

Ange's little sister is fucked up in the head because her family's gone and she doesn't know who to blame.

Now, I'm not saying that the scene was good, but I think since we're reaching the final stretch Fukuda wanted to show at least slightly that Lizardia got some punishment from her actions even though Embryo's probably the one who put her up to it. Maybe the way Embryo doesn't give a shit about Lizardia will be the kink in Embryo's persuasiveness... Either way, Lizardia's got a lot of blood on her hands. Ange's sister doesnt.

Honestly, I think Earth2 might be a copy universe of Earth1... maybe digital? Where Embryo's got administrative privileges. I'm pretty sure Embryo created the RagnaMail and caused the destruction of Earth1 albeit indirectly and in order to make up for his mistake, he made Earth2 and is trying to turn it into a utopia. A world where global conflicts like the one that destroyed Earth1 do not occur.

I think that fits in with his name too. Embryo - creator of a lot of things.

Also... about the wheelchair thing. He honestly doesn't care so she's still in a wheelchair. I don't think it's about whether or not he can or can't, it's whether or not he wants too.


TitanAnteus said:
beccca14 said:
Was anyone else pissed that Ange left Riza in the library to most likely be whipped again by her sister when Embryo said he wanted to talk to her?! Seriously, you can take a few minutes to undo that face mask and argue with Embryo about letting her go. Or at least put Momika in charge of her. Don't just leave her there.
Ange's sister has killed 0 people. She's just a super bitch. Lizardia is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of dragons.


You failed to realize that Lizardia was captured and tortured(or maybe brain fucked to say their plans) by Embryo. Is not like she was just an ass. Anyone could talk after being captured and tortured.
Where to you get this willingly bullshit?
She didn't betray anyone and she wasn't working with Embryo. The reason she's that crazy wheelchair loli's little bitch right now is exactly because she was never working with him and whatever help she gave him was by force and not willingly.
If she was actually helping him willingly she will be all nice and dressed like all the others that are with him helping him in his plans.
MonadFeb 17, 2015 11:05 AM
Feb 17, 2015 11:04 AM

Offline
Jun 2013
1140
RLinksoul said:
ex_necross said:
And we were this close to making a bunch of SJW's cry and throw tantrums.. oh well, maybe next time...


I don't think people are nearly as upset with this show as you think or want them to be. And after all this time I don't think anyone's suddenly going to complain about anything this show does after what has already happened for 19 episodes.


I don't think we will be able to recreate the episode 1 shitstorm either, but SJW still have the most hilarious reactions when something "bad" happens.
Feb 17, 2015 11:39 AM

Offline
Jun 2008
15842
ex_necross said:
RLinksoul said:


I don't think people are nearly as upset with this show as you think or want them to be. And after all this time I don't think anyone's suddenly going to complain about anything this show does after what has already happened for 19 episodes.


I don't think we will be able to recreate the episode 1 shitstorm either, but SJW still have the most hilarious reactions when something "bad" happens.


SJW have long abandoned this show after they couldn't handle the first episodes. If they hadn't we would have gotten a tone of shocked reactions on how this anime is disgusting for showing a woman as a pet slave naked and whipped. Can you imagine if that scene was in the first episode?
Feb 17, 2015 12:08 PM
Offline
Sep 2011
1782
Monad said:
SJW have long abandoned this show after they couldn't handle the first episodes. If they hadn't we would have gotten a tone of shocked reactions on how this anime is disgusting for showing a woman as a pet slave naked and whipped. Can you imagine if that scene was in the first episode?


After everything else this show has done I think that would be the least of anyone's concern. Had that scene with Riza been in the first five episodes it might have gotten a reaction, but by now we all know what this anime's about.

Honestly it's amazing this show isn't actually a hentai, which makes it doubly hilarious that people are freaking out over the BDs not including nipples.
Feb 17, 2015 12:48 PM

Offline
Jun 2013
1140
RLinksoul said:
Monad said:
SJW have long abandoned this show after they couldn't handle the first episodes. If they hadn't we would have gotten a tone of shocked reactions on how this anime is disgusting for showing a woman as a pet slave naked and whipped. Can you imagine if that scene was in the first episode?


After everything else this show has done I think that would be the least of anyone's concern. Had that scene with Riza been in the first five episodes it might have gotten a reaction, but by now we all know what this anime's about.

Honestly it's amazing this show isn't actually a hentai, which makes it doubly hilarious that people are freaking out over the BDs not including nipples.


That's because far less pervy shows have nipples in their blu rays. It's surprising to say the least.
Feb 17, 2015 1:08 PM

Offline
Feb 2014
1733
Ewww Embryo is so gross! Forcing Ange to take off her clothes and kiss him is gross! o_o

Sylvia is a terrible girl. I wish Ange had given her what she deserved.

Haha but when Ange destroyed Salia in her bedroom and started insulting her I was like "yess go Angeeeee" xD Best scene in the episode by far. And then she's like "ha this is MY house can't find me!"

But I'm a bit confused as to the true reason why norma exist. Are they physically incapable of using mana, or are they just forced or "picked out" per se to not use mana?
Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines.
Feb 17, 2015 1:37 PM
Offline
Feb 2015
6
Noodle070 said:
Ewww Embryo is so gross! Forcing Ange to take off her clothes and kiss him is gross! o_o

Sylvia is a terrible girl. I wish Ange had given her what she deserved.

Haha but when Ange destroyed Salia in her bedroom and started insulting her I was like "yess go Angeeeee" xD Best scene in the episode by far. And then she's like "ha this is MY house can't find me!"

But I'm a bit confused as to the true reason why norma exist. Are they physically incapable of using mana, or are they just forced or "picked out" per se to not use mana?


im not clear on that myself looks like embryo explains somthing to do with the 2 world maby he will cover that topic while hes at still sure if she theyr of her own free will or not a cople of things seem off regarding her in this preview
Feb 17, 2015 1:43 PM

Offline
May 2009
252
He's a Tuner and he tunes Ange's pink.... hehehe
<img src="http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4424/jeff1244.png" border="0" />
Feb 17, 2015 7:17 PM

Offline
Jul 2013
3302
Damn, Embryo is cool.
Almost rape scene lol and Salia still sucks.
Salamandinay needs to come back, like right now.
Feb 17, 2015 8:33 PM
Offline
Nov 2014
12
25 chapters will be enought to solve all this War??

I mean, There will be season 2?
Feb 17, 2015 10:39 PM

Offline
Jan 2011
1662
MarcowNikkoff said:
25 chapters will be enought to solve all this War??

I mean, There will be season 2?


please no
Feb 17, 2015 10:50 PM

Offline
May 2012
6851
I wish if Salia and Ange got raped

4/5 for the lack of rape scene
Feb 18, 2015 12:43 AM

Offline
Feb 2012
942
Ange almost got Cosby'd
Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines.
Feb 18, 2015 1:46 AM
Offline
Feb 2015
6
MarcowNikkoff said:
25 chapters will be enought to solve all this War??

I mean, There will be season 2?


as long as they dont drag theyr heels at this curret bit and get ange out of theyr in here normal sate of mind eaither episode 20 or 21 i think it can be done right embryo is relly the caue of the problems her so they just have to remove him

i dont think theyr will be a season 2 dont see how theyr could be without alot of filler and i relly wodent wont one ive seen can make shows go bad at lest in my opion
Feb 18, 2015 4:34 AM

Offline
Jul 2009
4805
So Embryo even help Salia out giving her love that she always wished Jill could give...
So Ange got back to herself when she remembered of Tusk tsk...really, where is my yuri?!
And oh, Jill used to sleep with Embryo too...

Really this show is like Game of Thrones, we have dragons, incest, lesbians, a princess that want her empire back...no wonder why I like it so much...too bad my NanoFate is not having sweet moments =/
Feb 18, 2015 9:33 AM

Offline
Jun 2013
1140
kickmesign said:
Ange almost got Cosby'd


You mean her and the rest of the normas blamed him for something all at once to get their 15 minutes of fame?
Feb 18, 2015 10:35 AM
Offline
Nov 2014
12
naver200 said:
MarcowNikkoff said:
25 chapters will be enought to solve all this War??

I mean, There will be season 2?


as long as they dont drag theyr heels at this curret bit and get ange out of theyr in here normal sate of mind eaither episode 20 or 21 i think it can be done right embryo is relly the caue of the problems her so they just have to remove him

i dont think theyr will be a season 2 dont see how theyr could be without alot of filler and i relly wodent wont one ive seen can make shows go bad at lest in my opion


Well almost of thiese series made by sunrise have 2 seasons, especially those who are like gundam, besides I see to many loose ends in the story!!!

and God!! That Embryo really piss me off, but the girls tempted by him a lot more!!

I mean, Embryo is like the Devil,he just wants to tempt and corrupt, that`s his fun!!, plus all the terrible things that happened to those girls, was due to embryo, so come on girls, It`s too good to be true, wake up, where is the trap?
to me the worst is Ersha!!! and the second Jill who was having fun with embryo during the battle for Libertus!! All those psycho actions made by Jill arre because her love with Embryo.
MarcowNikkoffFeb 18, 2015 10:50 AM
Feb 18, 2015 11:07 AM
Offline
Feb 2015
6
MarcowNikkoff said:
naver200 said:


as long as they dont drag theyr heels at this curret bit and get ange out of theyr in here normal sate of mind eaither episode 20 or 21 i think it can be done right embryo is relly the caue of the problems her so they just have to remove him

i dont think theyr will be a season 2 dont see how theyr could be without alot of filler and i relly wodent wont one ive seen can make shows go bad at lest in my opion



Well almost of thiese series made by sunrise have 2 seasons, especially those who are like gundam, besides I see to many loose ends in the story!!!

and God!! That Embryo really piss me off, but the girls tempted by him a lot more!!

I mean, Embryo is like the Devil,he just wants to tempt and corrupt, that`s his fun!!, plus all the terrible things that happened to those girls, was due to embryo, so come on girls, It`s too good to be true, wake up, where is the trap?
to me the worst is Ersha!!! and the second Jill who was having fun with embryo during the battle for Libertus!! All those psycho actions made by Jill arre because her love with Embryo.


if i might use valvrave as an example i felt that end was to rush with polt holes left open that were never explained by the end so we may see that agen id also add most sights seem to have cross ange confrimed for a while now at a 25 episode run i presonaly think they are just runing it all at one seriese this time

from past exprinces of sunrise i think if it were spilt in half it would have been around or just after the time the norma facilaty was attacked just my thoughts tho theyr is still 6 episodes to go i am sure if hadled right they can wrap it up in satisfactary way i would also add most sun rises non gundam seriese seem to genral run for 24-25 episodes not that this one cant run longer just dosnt seem likly to me

tho to finsh up id also reply to your comment on embryo and say he dosnt so much piss me off as creeps me the fuck out
naver200Feb 18, 2015 11:33 AM
Feb 18, 2015 2:15 PM

Offline
Dec 2014
239
thepath said:
I wish if Salia and Ange got raped

4/5 for the lack of rape scene


you should watch a hentai.




ex_necross said:
kickmesign said:
Ange almost got Cosby'd


You mean her and the rest of the normas blamed him for something all at once to get their 15 minutes of fame?


Ange doesn't need fame. She's already got her own harem.

Feb 18, 2015 8:11 PM
Offline
Dec 2014
41
Currently i feel that at the end of cross ange at episode 25 there will be a Talia Gladys and Gilbert Durandal (SEED DESTINY) scene for Jill and Embryo haha where both of the them dies together :)) I really don't expect the Jill will live through this war against Embryo as she is dedicated to get back at Embryo, I expect that she'll go through heights and risk her life just get back at that bastard that fucked her during Libertus as a form of her repentance to what she did before
Feb 18, 2015 8:17 PM
Offline
Dec 2014
41
MarcowNikkoff said:
25 chapters will be enought to solve all this War??

I mean, There will be season 2?


Lets face it, as much as i don't want cross ange to end at episode 25, there will be no season 2 as how the story currently goes, it cannot further be stretched, as sides of Salamandenden and Embryo are in place.. Also Embryo is clearly the last boss holding the strings on the series, meaning there could be no more superior antagonist than that fcking rapist narcissist

Sunrise usually airs non-gundam mecha anime for 20ish episodes like Valverave, Gundam series are the only ones that reaches 50 episodes, and SEED was the only one given with a sequal of another 50 episodes, so yeah its unlikely that Ange will get another season..
Feb 18, 2015 11:58 PM

Offline
Dec 2013
2814
I don't get why everyone is talking about rape. All he did was tell her to do a striptease in front of him. It's not like he told her to get down on her knees or lay on a table or anything. He was just testing her strength of mind, which she passed spectacularly.

That said, I wonder why Embryo would even allow Ange to keep her memories or even to bring Momoka along with her to the palace in the first place. If he only brought Ange, she'd be all alone in the palace with no one to help her out, wouldn't that be more advantageous of a position to be in for him? What he's been doing with Chris, Salia and the others is just feeding them with the psychological (and in Salia's case, physical) comfort that they so craved. He's like the devil tempting with what each girl innately desires. I get the feeling why Ange was impervious to it was simply because he guessed wrong about what Ange deeply wanted (i.e. he thought she wanted love after all the trauma she went through, but she's much tougher of a girl than he expected). Top it off with the fact that she's already been kissed before (i.e. not a new sensation like he expected), it was easy for her to break out of his spell.

I think Jill's subconscious confession was more like her trying to run away from her guilt of succumbing to Embryo previously. She's like a drug addict going back into remission. It's not that her ideals of killing off Embryo are fake, its more like she was previously in too deep of a conditioning by Embryo that even after she escaped, she's still feeling the side-effects. I kind of agree with some forumers here that she might have to sacrifice herself in the end just to be rid of her addiction.

And for the record, I still believe in the Yuri. I also believe that the Oji-sama that the little sister was talking about to be Embryo as well. XD

After checking the preview a second time, anyone wanna bet with me that the black boots at the end were actually Jills? I think she couldn't fight her addiction and had to return to Embryo's side.
L-RyoshiFeb 19, 2015 12:03 AM
HESTIAAPPROVES
Feb 19, 2015 1:31 AM
Offline
Feb 2015
6
L-Ryoshi said:
I don't get why everyone is talking about rape. All he did was tell her to do a striptease in front of him. It's not like he told her to get down on her knees or lay on a table or anything. He was just testing her strength of mind, which she passed spectacularly.

That said, I wonder why Embryo would even allow Ange to keep her memories or even to bring Momoka along with her to the palace in the first place. If he only brought Ange, she'd be all alone in the palace with no one to help her out, wouldn't that be more advantageous of a position to be in for him? What he's been doing with Chris, Salia and the others is just feeding them with the psychological (and in Salia's case, physical) comfort that they so craved. He's like the devil tempting with what each girl innately desires. I get the feeling why Ange was impervious to it was simply because he guessed wrong about what Ange deeply wanted (i.e. he thought she wanted love after all the trauma she went through, but she's much tougher of a girl than he expected). Top it off with the fact that she's already been kissed before (i.e. not a new sensation like he expected), it was easy for her to break out of his spell.

I think Jill's subconscious confession was more like her trying to run away from her guilt of succumbing to Embryo previously. She's like a drug addict going back into remission. It's not that her ideals of killing off Embryo are fake, its more like she was previously in too deep of a conditioning by Embryo that even after she escaped, she's still feeling the side-effects. I kind of agree with some forumers here that she might have to sacrifice herself in the end just to be rid of her addiction.

And for the record, I still believe in the Yuri. I also believe that the Oji-sama that the little sister was talking about to be Embryo as well. XD

After checking the preview a second time, anyone wanna bet with me that the black boots at the end were actually Jills? I think she couldn't fight her addiction and had to return to Embryo's side.
L-Ryoshi said:
I don't get why everyone is talking about rape. All he did was tell her to do a striptease in front of him. It's not like he told her to get down on her knees or lay on a table or anything. He was just testing her strength of mind, which she passed spectacularly.

That said, I wonder why Embryo would even allow Ange to keep her memories or even to bring Momoka along with her to the palace in the first place. If he only brought Ange, she'd be all alone in the palace with no one to help her out, wouldn't that be more advantageous of a position to be in for him? What he's been doing with Chris, Salia and the others is just feeding them with the psychological (and in Salia's case, physical) comfort that they so craved. He's like the devil tempting with what each girl innately desires. I get the feeling why Ange was impervious to it was simply because he guessed wrong about what Ange deeply wanted (i.e. he thought she wanted love after all the trauma she went through, but she's much tougher of a girl than he expected). Top it off with the fact that she's already been kissed before (i.e. not a new sensation like he expected), it was easy for her to break out of his spell.

I think Jill's subconscious confession was more like her trying to run away from her guilt of succumbing to Embryo previously. She's like a drug addict going back into remission. It's not that her ideals of killing off Embryo are fake, its more like she was previously in too deep of a conditioning by Embryo that even after she escaped, she's still feeling the side-effects. I kind of agree with some forumers here that she might have to sacrifice herself in the end just to be rid of her addiction.

And for the record, I still believe in the Yuri. I also believe that the Oji-sama that the little sister was talking about to be Embryo as well. XD

After checking the preview a second time, anyone wanna bet with me that the black boots at the end were actually Jills? I think she couldn't fight her addiction and had to return to Embryo's side.


frist id argue we should just asume the brainwash is done the preview has a few bit that may sugest she evental sucums but i hope thats not and somthing eles going on im from wheaver it works or fail i get the feeling she will at lest pretend to get onbord for maby an episode

i agree i dont think he was going to rape here but based on the way he was talking id agrue he has some attraction to her and the way her face reacted sugest it worked till he kissed her and she pretty much rember she allready had what she wanted

as for bring momaka along it simple she help keep ange happy he making them think his the most wonderful person ever that gives them everything they want having momaka theyr helps cemet that image and keep in mind how he controls them by making them think its what they want if it went as plan momakas presence would make no difrenice

oh good point didnt occure to me it could be jill if we asume it were jill then that would completly rule out ange sucuming or join him in anyway and the easy anwser would be that ange was wearing thos boots so yea that would be a good way to misdircet ppl but still theyr is that bit in curret opening with a black vilkus behind ange and the bit the sart of the opening were she tied up in bands posably syboling a peroid were embryo controls her and tho its also posably it could repressent her being pulled three ways btween the 3 factions/groups

or maby im just reading in to pointless parts of an opening that have no baring on the show at all
naver200Feb 19, 2015 2:36 AM
Feb 19, 2015 2:44 PM

Offline
Jan 2013
1637
The midway cutaways are looking like they'll come true, Ange helping the dragon's attack the city of Misurugi. Well the Yuri's still possible but I don't think it's very likely.

The anime fukuda's worked on prior have had no real romance in them but have all had male protagonists. The most yuri thing the director, Ashino, Yoshiharu worked on was Madoka, and he worked on the least yuri parts of madoka. Ep1-3.

I think with their track record in anime, both their romantic interests don't really fit with Yuri. The character designer is a fan though so there's still a chance.

To be honest, I don't mind if all the side characters got their Yuri end, because a very good number of the sidecharacters are explicitly gay. I personally don't want Ange to have a Yuri end because I like Tusk as a character, and he likes her. I wouldn't mind if Ange had a Yuri end if Tusk liked someone else... like Vivian for example.
Feb 21, 2015 1:15 AM

Offline
Oct 2008
13682
Fight Ange, don't be corrupted by the likes of Embryo-sama!


Feb 21, 2015 1:40 AM
Offline
Feb 2015
6
matias067 said:
Fight Ange, don't be corrupted by the likes of Embryo-sama!


can only hope it dosnt play out like relly dont want that to happen i fell it would relly comprismis the strong Charter the show has spent time in the early episods to devlope

tho im currus as to what embryo is trying to achive his* i couldent just abdon humanity* line intregis me pershapps humanity was in some sort of perail tho he may have just been trying to sway ange or pershase staiting he thinks its his duty to protect humaity as speices

but you tho somthing did occure to my with i was playing Final fantasy 14

hes is posably feeding off a great magical energy sorce and is worshiped like a god as well being able to intraill ppl i knew emybroy is a primal!:P
Feb 21, 2015 2:46 AM

Offline
Apr 2012
34062
god this show is so shit lmao

i regret picking it back up

Feb 22, 2015 6:44 PM

Offline
Mar 2014
1531
That Ange stripping scene was necessary imo.
MAL: A community that thinks every anime is bad, but rates everything a 7/10.
Feb 25, 2015 5:17 AM

Offline
Jul 2012
248
Damn it made me so happy a main character was able to pull the trigger and shoot the badie!.. and more than once. Sadly it wasn't effective as we all know that would be too easy in any anime that we so dearly wished it to happen. Still fuck yeah she pulled that trigger twice on him!
Feb 26, 2015 8:27 AM

Offline
Nov 2011
7621
Embryo seems a conqueror of women, rather than a god, how slippery that character, I have the chills!
Brrrr ...
Narrative once more to reveal what has happened in the world of Angelese that to continue the main story, much fanservice to make happy those who awaited with trepidation.
LOL
Drawing a little less poor than the previous episode.
Overall the episode is usable if not look much from the plot, Alektra hiding something, Ange is good not to trust her.
Pages (3) « 1 [2] 3 »

More topics from this board

» Is there anywhere online where I can watch this legally?

Aletheia_xxx - May 20

4 by Aletheia_xxx »»
May 21, 3:41 PM

Poll: » Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo Episode 25 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )

Stark700 - Mar 28, 2015

331 by jiashun02 »»
Oct 22, 2023 3:16 AM

Poll: » Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo Episode 3 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )

Stark700 - Oct 18, 2014

194 by Babieca009 »»
Aug 17, 2023 5:51 PM

Poll: » Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo Episode 10 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )

Stark700 - Dec 6, 2014

131 by FireRifle64 »»
Aug 8, 2023 1:03 AM

Poll: » Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo Episode 22 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )

Stark700 - Mar 7, 2015

285 by Nikoslovescoffee »»
Jul 17, 2023 4:24 AM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login