Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 16 Discussion

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Oosran said:

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oh and btw, I don't think you answered in that other thread wherever it was, how'd your finals go?: p

I answered :( go check!

oh you did? : O in which post was that? xD I seem to have missed it : /

>_>...I don't remember...possibly 07-ghost one?

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robbydesu said:

Oosran said:

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oh and btw, I don't think you answered in that other thread wherever it was, how'd your finals go?: p

I answered :( go check!

oh you did? : O in which post was that? xD I seem to have missed it : /

>_>...I don't remember...possibly 07-ghost one?

sounds probable .. oh I might as well check that then : D

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robbydesu said:
I wonder if there will ever be a moment when people will start giving a substantial review or comment about a FMA:B episode without mentioning about the pace.

The fun part? This episode covered the SAME AMOUNT as did all the episodes, minus 13 and 14....

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Fai said:

robbydesu said:
I wonder if there will ever be a moment when people will start giving a substantial review or comment about a FMA:B episode without mentioning about the pace.

The fun part? This episode covered the SAME AMOUNT as did all the episodes, minus 13 and 14....

Really? You think that's the fun part? O_o;;; I really don't get what your point is

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robbydesu said:

Oosran said:

robbydesu said:

Oosran said:
oh and btw, I don't think you answered in that other thread wherever it was, how'd your finals go?: p

I answered :( go check!

oh you did? : O in which post was that? xD I seem to have missed it : /

>_>...I don't remember...possibly 07-ghost one?

ah look, I found it xD 07-Ghost Episode 15, apparantly : p BUT it was modified, and probably after I checked there last time, and therefore I missed your answer : p

that's what I found : p
oh, and I suppose your DONE then : p and you're most likely quite happy about that too : p

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Oosran said:

robbydesu said:

Oosran said:

robbydesu said:

Oosran said:
oh and btw, I don't think you answered in that other thread wherever it was, how'd your finals go?: p

I answered :( go check!

oh you did? : O in which post was that? xD I seem to have missed it : /

>_>...I don't remember...possibly 07-ghost one?

ah look, I found it xD 07-Ghost Episode 15, apparantly : p BUT it was modified, and probably after I checked there last time, and therefore I missed your answer : p

that's what I found : p
oh, and I suppose your DONE then : p and you're most likely quite happy about that too : p

YEAAP :D!

Jul 20, 2009 1:12 PM

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sad ep is sad ;_; it really looks like that everything is going just like their plans. "all is playing into the hands of unknow" a totally fitting sentence.

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robbydesu said:

Oosran said:

robbydesu said:

Oosran said:

robbydesu said:

Oosran said:
oh and btw, I don't think you answered in that other thread wherever it was, how'd your finals go?: p

I answered :( go check!

oh you did? : O in which post was that? xD I seem to have missed it : /

>_>...I don't remember...possibly 07-ghost one?

ah look, I found it xD 07-Ghost Episode 15, apparantly : p BUT it was modified, and probably after I checked there last time, and therefore I missed your answer : p

that's what I found : p
oh, and I suppose your DONE then : p and you're most likely quite happy about that too : p

YEAAP :D!

good for ya : ) and this is becoming as off-topic as last time I think xD booyah
hmm wasn't that.. in the thread of the previous episide of FMA:B?xD

Kiseki said:
sad ep is sad ;_; it really looks like that everything is going just like their plans. "all is playing into the hands of unknow" a totally fitting sentence.

yeah pretty much, except for the "sad ep is sad" part, or well.. bah it actually was a bit sad, nvm xD

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Jul 20, 2009 2:25 PM

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This episode got me sniff over Maes again... Dx RIP Hughes, one of my favourite characters in this series.

And I swear, Mustang is SO GAR even when yawning.

Miki Shinichiro just adds another 10 levels of sexy (I heard some people complaining about him because they preferred the first Mustang's seiyuu...Fortunately I don't have that problem, never having watched the first version of the anime xD And I find his voice so incredibly MMMRR.)

(yes, that was me purring.)

NEED MOAR LING.

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This episode got me sniff over Maes again... Dx RIP Hughes, one of my favourite characters in this series.

And I swear, Mustang is SO GAR even when yawning.

Miki Shinichiro just adds another 10 levels of sexy (I heard some people complaining about him because they preferred the first Mustang's seiyuu...Fortunately I don't have that problem, never having watched the first version of the anime xD And I find his voice so incredibly MMMRR.)

(yes, that was me purring.)

NEED MOAR LING.

1. Yeah Hughes was a pile of epic, can't deny that in any possible way : /
2. Why don't we burn Mustang alive?: D He could provide us with fire himself
3. Ling's a pretty cool guy, makes a mess of stuff and doesn't care about it : D

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Cenedess said:
This episode got me sniff over Maes again... Dx RIP Hughes, one of my favourite characters in this series.

And I swear, Mustang is SO GAR even when yawning.

Miki Shinichiro just adds another 10 levels of sexy (I heard some people complaining about him because they preferred the first Mustang's seiyuu...Fortunately I don't have that problem, never having watched the first version of the anime xD And I find his voice so incredibly MMMRR.)

(yes, that was me purring.)

NEED MOAR LING.

Agree with everything you said minus the fangirlism (lol :D)

I too, don't have any issue with Miki Shinichiro (plus I like this VA) because I can barely remember the original voice actor. I checked how the original voice actor's voice and well my mind hasn't changed. The original actor was fine, but new Roy Mustang is perfectly fine as well.

I think it's just funny how friendly Barry is with the people who captured him. My favorite part of the episode. xD

I just hate shape shifting villans, they automatically bring huge tension, because you don't know who's real and who's not. Just thinking about what they have in plan makes me shudder. I can't wait for the next episode to find out -gulp- what they have planned next.

Jul 20, 2009 6:09 PM

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Good Episode.
Kind of sad...

Jul 20, 2009 6:20 PM

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Yeah, people complaining about the pacing - if you're gonna do it, PLEASE please don't compare it to the manga, that is not how it works. That is a failure of an argument.

Now while I did like the newspaper scene, the Ross reveal was really well done, especially in the tension between what Ross knows and what the brothers assumed. It really showcased Hawkeye's speech about how cruel it is to keep the two out of the loop. This wasn't in the manga I believe, so kudos to the creators. At the same time though, Mustang was being kind, knowing how they would blame themselves for Hughes's death.

I'm really glad I read the manga long ago, so I can still get excited for what happens next.

Jul 20, 2009 8:19 PM

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Good episode, as usual cant wait to see what happens next, glad i have not read the manga.

Jul 20, 2009 10:02 PM

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Next week is easily my most anticipated episode, yet.

Jul 20, 2009 10:47 PM

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Seems things are little bit too fast again, probably following the pace of earlier episode which is not good because several good scenes not included.

The emotional neswpaper scene and apple pie scene are not included, which is bad. Bad move BONES...

I hope they won't cut another good manga scene...

Jul 20, 2009 10:50 PM

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yamato21 said:
Seems things are little bit too fast again, probably following the pace of earlier episode which is not good because several good scenes not included.

The emotional neswpaper scene and apple pie scene are not included, which is bad. Bad move BONES...

I hope they won't cut another good manga scene...

robbydesu said:
Fast, slow, fast, slow, fast, slow.

I wonder if there will ever be a moment when people will start giving a substantial review or comment about a FMA:B episode without mentioning about the pace.

I wonder...

And huuuh? I swear there was an apple pie scene. Unless there was more to that scene

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robbydesu said:

yamato21 said:
Seems things are little bit too fast again, probably following the pace of earlier episode which is not good because several good scenes not included.

The emotional neswpaper scene and apple pie scene are not included, which is bad. Bad move BONES...

I hope they won't cut another good manga scene...

robbydesu said:
Fast, slow, fast, slow, fast, slow.

I wonder if there will ever be a moment when people will start giving a substantial review or comment about a FMA:B episode without mentioning about the pace.

I wonder...

And huuuh? I swear there was an apple pie scene. Unless there was more to that scene

quoting yourself now are you : o
but apple pie.. apple pie.. apple pie.... don't think there was one, but there sure were apples \o/

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Jul 21, 2009 3:12 AM

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Winry is focking hot.

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If that was fast, then I'm glad they made it like that, because this episode was boring as hell.

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Oosran said:

robbydesu said:

yamato21 said:
Seems things are little bit too fast again, probably following the pace of earlier episode which is not good because several good scenes not included.

The emotional neswpaper scene and apple pie scene are not included, which is bad. Bad move BONES...

I hope they won't cut another good manga scene...

robbydesu said:
Fast, slow, fast, slow, fast, slow.

I wonder if there will ever be a moment when people will start giving a substantial review or comment about a FMA:B episode without mentioning about the pace.

I wonder...

And huuuh? I swear there was an apple pie scene. Unless there was more to that scene

quoting yourself now are you : o
but apple pie.. apple pie.. apple pie.... don't think there was one, but there sure were apples o/

You know me, waaay too lazy to say all of that again. It's SUMMER!! Muahaha :D

But yea, I consider the mention of apple pie as the apple pie scene

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robbydesu said:

Oosran said:

robbydesu said:

yamato21 said:
Seems things are little bit too fast again, probably following the pace of earlier episode which is not good because several good scenes not included.

The emotional neswpaper scene and apple pie scene are not included, which is bad. Bad move BONES...

I hope they won't cut another good manga scene...

robbydesu said:
Fast, slow, fast, slow, fast, slow.

I wonder if there will ever be a moment when people will start giving a substantial review or comment about a FMA:B episode without mentioning about the pace.

I wonder...

And huuuh? I swear there was an apple pie scene. Unless there was more to that scene

quoting yourself now are you : o
but apple pie.. apple pie.. apple pie.... don't think there was one, but there sure were apples o/

You know me, waaay too lazy to say all of that again. It's SUMMER!! Muahaha :D

But yea, I consider the mention of apple pie as the apple pie scene

Yeah, it's summer allright, I get your point : p
oh well guess talking about apple pie could count as apple pie scene, as you're saying xD

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Jul 21, 2009 10:54 AM

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Fai said:

QFT, (minus the exaggerated Ed running down the street scene)

i liked that.
it was a good scene.

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QFT, (minus the exaggerated Ed running down the street scene)

i liked that.
it was a good scene.

My problem with it was that it was over-exaggerated, whats with him emoing. A simple sulking by the wall down the hallway would have been way more realistic.

The whole running seemed, well, over-dramatic, FMA1-style

Jul 21, 2009 2:21 PM

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Gracia crying almost made me start up all over again...
(cries in the corner)

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Td99 said:
Gracia crying almost made me start up all over again...
(cries in the corner)

Her eyecatch depressed me. T__T

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Great episode - Hughes has always been one of my favourite characters in FMA (first 'season' too).

Although he did not last as many episodes in FMA2, I'm glad they executed his death so well and touchingly.. compared to the first one anyway!

+blog

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eh not as good as the last few episodes. next one looks good though! Mustang is awesome!

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Fai said:

The whole running seemed, well, over-dramatic, FMA1-style

Ha ha ha, but FMA2 showed it and not FMA1 :P Anyway, didn't like the episode. It was trying to be emotional but lost it. Also, I didn't understand if Hughes knowing their secret was the cause of his death, then why would Ed tell Gracia, Elicia and Winry about it too? oO Wouldn't that endanger their lives? It's amazing how FMA2 manages to disappoint in a episode like this which I had hoped would be great.

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Also, I didn't understand if Hughes knowing their secret was the cause of his death, then why would Ed tell Gracia, Elicia and Winry about it too? oO Wouldn't that endanger their lives?

That was not.

The cause of his death was that Hughes used that knowledge to find out something about the homonunculus that they did not want anyone to know. These guys tend to go to extreme lengths to cover their secrets and what Hughes found is well, one of the biggest secrets they had.

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It's amazing how FMA2 manages to disappoint in a episode like this which I had hoped would be great.

I don't know why is it so for you. For me its one of the best manga arcs and one of the best episodes (well minus Ed's outrageous running and scriptwriters missing the point of apple pie scene) of FMA2.

It gives something FMA1 SERIOUSLY lacked - a follow up for Hughes death and the fact that it matters.

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Fanboys/Fangirls will have their devotion tested next episode :P

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Fanboys/Fangirls will have their devotion tested next episode :P

That's true.
I'm looking forward to people's comments on that :D

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Fai said:
Fanboys/Fangirls will have their devotion tested next episode :P

That's true xD

apparently you missed the BOLD in the thread start:

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.

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Fai said:

Cenedess said:

Fai said:
Fanboys/Fangirls will have their devotion tested next episode :P

That's true xD
I'm looking forward to people's comments on that :D]

apparently you missed the BOLD in the thread start:

Fai said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.

Oops, yeah, you're right -scratches-
It's all anime-centric now xP

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Jul 22, 2009 5:49 AM

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Nice episode, pretty dramatized. Kinda boring though

Jul 22, 2009 6:51 AM

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Nick_xD said:
Nice episode, pretty dramatized. Kinda boring though

Indeed^^
I'm looking forward to the next episode with a little bit Mustang Action xD

Jul 22, 2009 8:35 AM

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I hope Mustang will kill Rosa or something...

Jul 22, 2009 12:36 PM

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I actually liked how they changed the newspaper scene. Watching the answer slowly dawn on Ed was more emotional in my opinion.
Great episode~

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I agree with the general concensus. Solid episode. Nice to slow the pace down a little bit and let everything about Hughes finally sink in. Again, didn't read the manga so I can't compare with the newspaper, but I thought Ross telling the brothers what happened was fine. I actually started getting emotional seeing Ed's face while he was putting everything together in his mind.

But then that all went down the toilet when he started running...

Thank god for the scene in the Hughes household and afterwards, or this episode would've lost me completely. That got me back into it and looking forward to the next one.

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I agree with the general concensus. Solid episode. Nice to slow the pace down a little bit and let everything about Hughes finally sink in. Again, didn't read the manga so I can't compare with the newspaper, but I thought Ross telling the brothers what happened was fine. I actually started getting emotional seeing Ed's face while he was putting everything together in his mind.

IN the manga Ed

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Fai said:

IN the manga Ed

Thanks for that manga part. Yes,I feel that would have been more powerful than Ed running about with so much energy :P

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Sapta said:

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IN the manga Ed

Thanks for that manga part. Yes,I feel that would have been more powerful than Ed running about with so much energy :P

Yep, that definitely is better. Wonder why they changed it.

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Sapta said:

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IN the manga Ed

Thanks for that manga part. Yes,I feel that would have been more powerful than Ed running about with so much energy :P

Yep, that definitely is better. Wonder why they changed it.

well, stupid choice of change was stupid, huh? certainly would've been better that way

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Jul 23, 2009 9:57 AM

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i loved it :D

but omg i cryed whene ed,al and winry found auot about huges death that was sooo sad :,(
poor ed he tried to cry but winry did for him :(

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Finally the pace is slowing down... or maybe just for this episode? Anyway I wasn't entirely content with this episode, but there were a good number of scenes that were, for the most part, faithful to the manga.

Enjoyable nevertheless. :) The EdxWin scene was there so yusss~

But ay. Poor Gracia and Elicia... D':

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Finally the pace is slowing down... or maybe just for this episode? Anyway I wasn't entirely content with this episode, but there were a good number of scenes that were, for the most part, faithful to the manga.

Enjoyable nevertheless. :) The EdxWin scene was there so yusss~

But ay. Poor Gracia and Elicia... D':

you think the pace was slow? oh.. wait.. maybe it was.. xD..... just a sec, I'll think for a bit.
. . .
yeah it might've actually been slow you know : o

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Jul 23, 2009 7:53 PM

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Eh, good, not great. Was I the only one who found the episode where he actually died way more emotional than this one?

Jul 23, 2009 11:20 PM

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The ED was perfect for this ep!

Awesome ep, glad the pace has slowed down and we can really delve into the characters emotions.

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