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Aug 29, 2020 8:28 PM
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I don't know what it is, but in both of the anime's I've seen with seven deadly sins themed characters, the greed based character seems to be a sort of a good guy.

Anyways, looks like Echidna seems to be the caring mother type right now. I don't know if this is just a mask though.
Aug 29, 2020 10:53 PM
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Subaru wouldn't go thus far without Echidna, every side-character in Re-Zero is extremely useful, ngl.
Aug 29, 2020 10:59 PM

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Subaru should carry something on him that allows for instantaneous death, so he doesnt have to watch all that suffering.
Aug 30, 2020 1:48 AM

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damn, Echidna really is second best girl (after Rem, of course) and is very close, at that. I really like her.

Subaru has some major characterisation as he finally is able to release his emotions. I'm glad his character arc is developing this way.

We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths.
As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are.
That's what death is, don't you think?


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Aug 30, 2020 4:25 AM

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StarAlone said:
the only thing i disliked was how he was trying so hard to escape like he was going to. We all know and he (should at least...) that after 3 days everyone in the mansion would be dead so he just had to restart anyway, but i guess that's a little plot hole to drive story into scene with rabbits and then with Echidna
There is no plot hole. Subaru has 5 days before Elsa's attack on the mansion. Last time she appeared earlier because Subaru returned earlier than she was told.
Aug 30, 2020 4:57 AM

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GlassesSenpai said:
can someone spoil me how many times subaru died until he overthrough the rabbit mabeast? lol thats pain in the ass to see subaru fight them
If I remember correctly
Aug 30, 2020 5:19 AM
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mozgow said:
There is no plot hole. Subaru has 5 days before Elsa's attack on the mansion. Last time she appeared earlier because Subaru returned earlier than she was told.


Hmm? Later i'll watch it again to confirm it, but she from what i recall, she was at the 'right time'. When Subaru rushed on the very next day to the mansion and met her anyway, from what i remember that was the plan. To kill everyone and wait 3 days for Subaru, but she was suprised by him being already inside.
Maybe im mixing up some facts, but after Subaru was locked inside by Garfiel, even if he rushed to the mansion, all would be already dead anyway, right?
Aug 30, 2020 5:29 AM
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There's just so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin. Someone said "rollercoaster of emotions", I call this rollercoaster of cringe. That generic music swelling during the tea scene to get low IQ people emotional was the final nail.
Whenever someone dies, the MC WILL die next in more and more unnecessarily gruesome ways. No suspense. It's like I'm watching dragon ball z. Oh, Piccolo (Otto) died. No problem, they'll just save him with the dragon balls (dying).
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StarAlone said:
mozgow said:
There is no plot hole. Subaru has 5 days before Elsa's attack on the mansion. Last time she appeared earlier because Subaru returned earlier than she was told.


Hmm? Later i'll watch it again to confirm it, but she from what i recall, she was at the 'right time'. When Subaru rushed on the very next day to the mansion and met her anyway, from what i remember that was the plan. To kill everyone and wait 3 days for Subaru, but she was suprised by him being already inside.
Maybe im mixing up some facts, but after Subaru was locked inside by Garfiel, even if he rushed to the mansion, all would be already dead anyway, right?



See what Elsa told to Subaru (from LN, but is the same in Crunchyroll translation)


“It was supposed to be two maids and one ‘shut-in,’ and everything was supposed to be timed to coincide with your return…”
Aug 30, 2020 6:05 AM
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There's just so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin. Someone said "rollercoaster of emotions", I call this rollercoaster of cringe. That generic music swelling during the tea scene to get low IQ people emotional was the final nail.
Whenever someone dies, the MC WILL die next in more and more unnecessarily gruesome ways. No suspense. It's like I'm watching dragon ball z. Oh, Piccolo (Otto) died. No problem, they'll just save him with the dragon balls (dying).


The cringe and the lack of consequences should be obvious by now, yet the fanboys are so delusional that they still praise it

LUL! And the haters are still stupid as ever. Watching something that they don't like? LUL
For the quote: LOW IQ! OMEGA LUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aug 30, 2020 6:15 AM
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Most of high IQ's favorite shows don't even reach my interest to convince a low IQ guy like me to watch it. What should I call those show guys?

Aug 30, 2020 6:15 AM

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DirtyOldGuy said:
Livius2001 said:


The cringe and the lack of consequences should be obvious by now, yet the fanboys are so delusional that they still praise it

LUL! And the haters are still stupid as ever. Watching something that they don't like? LUL
For the quote: LOW IQ! OMEGA LUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's just being contrarian like the other times. It's so pathetic that is already cringe lol. Just let him be
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I?
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Livius2001 said:
StardustReverie said:
There's just so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin. Someone said "rollercoaster of emotions", I call this rollercoaster of cringe. That generic music swelling during the tea scene to get low IQ people emotional was the final nail.
Whenever someone dies, the MC WILL die next in more and more unnecessarily gruesome ways. No suspense. It's like I'm watching dragon ball z. Oh, Piccolo (Otto) died. No problem, they'll just save him with the dragon balls (dying).


The cringe and the lack of consequences should be obvious by now, yet the fanboys are so delusional that they still praise it


yeahh , full metal anime is cringe . wtf that alchemic shit . Steins gate is also cringe. Wtf they creating time machine like doraemon lol. Basically all anime is cringe.
Aug 30, 2020 7:05 AM

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fullofregrets09 said:
Which brings me to how Roswall ended up flying away somewhere for an important meeting in the final loop. Who did he meet with?
If was mentioned in the LN
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Livius2001 said:
The cringe and the lack of consequences should be obvious by now, yet the fanboys are so delusional that they still praise it

Well everyone has different tastes when it comes to dialogues but personnal I really like them. They're a bit on the cringy side sometimes but that's pretty much the point and the goal of the author.

About the lack of consequences, it's not exactly true and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that side characters very rarely get long term consequences past Subaru's Return by Death.
You see, the show is more about Subaru going through stuff ~ alone ~ over and over. If you haven't noticed yet you're much better dropping the show, because it literally smashes that in our faces every episode and missing such an obvious fact would mean not listening to it.
Personally speaking, I would call Subaru's state after everything that happens a consequence, and Rem's state as well. The next two episodes will present to us a potential true consequence that could happen to Subaru if he messes up.

If you don't relate to Subaru's suffering it's probably not for you either.

It's also not my fault if you've missed the dozens of plot points since the start of the series; It's Re:Zero greatest strength after all. If it wasn't for this, I'd probably just find Re:Zero "cool and different" but I wouldn't praise it like I currently do.
Aug 30, 2020 7:31 AM

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dragynfaerie said:
I still don't believe Roswal. If that book gave Betty the ability to see the future, why didn't she know Big Boobies (totally blanked on her nam) was going to burst through the door?
The anime cut this part, but at the begging of the conversation Subaru asked if the promise from three days ago is still in place (the one in which Roswaal promised to say only truth). Roswaal said it was meant to be only for that one night but then added that he will not be picky about details and agreed to it.

And there's a reason why Beatrice did not know. You can PM me if you don't mind a spoilery answer.
Aug 30, 2020 8:08 AM
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I just wanna say
i broke down before subaru did
as soon as he said i return by death i broke down crying, just knowing how much he had to suffer alone and how he could finally say it to somebody
Aug 30, 2020 8:09 AM

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At this point, why in the world doesn't Subaru carry poison? πŸ™„
Aug 30, 2020 8:17 AM

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Marenwynn said:
At this point, why in the world doesn't Subaru carry poison? πŸ™„


Where would he get it? He has not been in this world for a long time. Also he would need a certain poison with a certain dosage to be deadly and quick about it. he might take some poison which would make his death even more miserable than a death by a blade is.
‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz.
Aug 30, 2020 8:25 AM

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Come on, Lugunica is so dangerous and Subaru is so fragile that find a "insta-death" kind of poison or spell would be the least difficult task. The biggest issue would be to explain to others why he would be interested in it.


Shuhan said:
Subaru should carry something on him that allows for instantaneous death, so he doesnt have to watch all that suffering.


Marenwynn said:
At this point, why in the world doesn't Subaru carry poison? πŸ™„


That is a good idea for a "professional" use of RbD, but first Subaru is the one that needs to "realize" something about it.





Btw, the end scene of this episode was so much "fan service" to me (since the start of this season it was bugging me why Subaru didn't tried to discuss anything about his condition with Equidna), that i could not resist and i read just the sequence of this meeting with the Witch (beginning of Ep. 9) and:

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'Dem rabbts from MP ruining Subarus life and shiet
"The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there."

"Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life."
Aug 30, 2020 9:03 AM

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Rob7 said:
Btw, the end scene of this episode was so much "fan service" to me (since the start of this season it was bugging me why Subaru didn't tried to discuss anything about his condition with Equidna)


I don't want to ruin it for you but
Aug 30, 2020 9:14 AM
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anime-prime said:
At this point it feels like this arc is being unnaturally stretched out to reach a 13 episode count. There was a lot of unnecessary padding in these past few episodes.

That being said, it was still enjoyable and we got a few more pieces of the puzzle, although the rabbit scene was a little too ridiculous, even for anime standards.
What are you even saying? there is so much cut content already that 25 episodes are not nearly enough to cover story as a whole. For the rabbit scene, yeah each can have them own opinion about that scene, personally I think it was great and very fitting for Re:zeros gruel universe.
Aug 30, 2020 9:25 AM

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hehe, you know that when you say "not wanting to ruin it but" already means "you are wrong and it is not going to happen" right? I'm not opening the spoiler btw.

I'm discovering this story bit by bit and the next lines of Subaru and Equidna dialogue will be total WIN for my previous expectations, no matter people who already spoiled all the history to themselves may think, since the experience is different between readers and viewers.


Anyway, No story is perfect for me (unlike looks like to be for the fandom that deny any critics). One moment the author is brilliant, and it does not prevents him to shit everything next.
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About this episode, no spoiler (i haven't read about the explanation of that), about all that snow, suddenly i realized about something:




- The Sanctuary was empyt and surely after Garfiel rage, deaths, Subaru's 2nd disappearance, there is no way for Emilia had overcome the trials.

- If she was not released from Sanctuary, and she is absent, and there is thousands of Piranha Rabitts around... it all means she died.

- And it is well known. When Emilia dies, Puck End's Beast is going to frozen the world.


So, maybe the time skip of this teleportation was shorter than we imagined.




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Rob7 said:
@QcDiablo

hehe, you know that when you say "not wanting to ruin it but" already means "you are wrong and it is not going to happen" right? I'm not opening the spoiler btw.

I'm discovering this story bit by bit and the next lines of Subaru and Equidna dialogue will be total WIN for my previous expectations, no matter people who already spoiled all the history to themselves may think, since the experience is different between readers and viewers.


Anyway, No story is perfect for me (unlike looks like to be for the fandom that deny any critics). One moment the author is brilliant, and it does not prevents him to shit everything next.
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About this episode, no spoiler (i haven't read about the explanation of that), about all that snow, suddenly i realized about something:




- The Sanctuary was empyt and surely after Garfiel rage, deaths, Subaru's 2nd disappearance, there is no way for Emilia had overcome the trials.

- If she was not released from Sanctuary, and she is absent, and there is thousands of Piranha Rabitts around... it all means she died.

- And it is well known. When Emilia dies, Puck End's Beast is going to frozen the world.


So, maybe the time skip of this teleportation was shorter than we imagined.






Or...hear me out. Garf killed Emilia, and then Puck enlisted the help of these snow bunnies to help destroy the world. It seems they would be good for doing just that, besides, Puck is only one Great Spirit, even for him it would take a while to destroy the whole world. He needed some help from the horde of man-eating bunnies to push the job along.

I’m only half-kidding though :)
Aug 30, 2020 11:59 AM

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Such a beautiful episode. Depressing as well. Subaru's suffering made me cry.
Rabbit scene was scary AF.
Echidna best girl.
Aug 30, 2020 12:29 PM

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BromWalar said:
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Oh Subaru having trust issues with Beatrice???? WTF, is it not enough that she save him numerus occasion , now just because she has that "gospel" book thing don't make her Subaru's enemy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

So, all that "Returning by Death" thing is making Subaru go boo hu hu mental.... Good thing that Echidna is there to comfort him.....TBFH , I'd wish he just go back to the real world and just be a loser for the rest of his life.


You did not listened to her last episode right? She told him that everything she did was because the gospel told her. Why wouldn't he suspect her or at least have doubts
Yeah yeah I know, you're the expert.
Aug 30, 2020 12:31 PM

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I don't know if it was in the previous OP animation (probably not) but I've noticed something this time.

Aug 30, 2020 12:43 PM

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Oh my god. He finally got to confide in someone. Finally. Gosh that scene tightened my chest up so bad. This must be one of the biggest reliefs he's ever felt since the very beginning of his adventure.
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Aug 30, 2020 12:48 PM

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mozgow said:
I don't know if it was in the previous OP animation (probably not) but I've noticed something this time.


Major spoiler indeed.
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JiangHaoyi1979 said:
BromWalar said:


You did not listened to her last episode right? She told him that everything she did was because the gospel told her. Why wouldn't he suspect her or at least have doubts
Yeah yeah I know, you're the expert.


What does that have to do with anything? I am correct no matter who I am. Disprove my point or stay with your delusions, your choice.
‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz.
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QcDiablo said:
mozgow said:
I don't know if it was in the previous OP animation (probably not) but I've noticed something this time.


Major spoiler indeed.
Ekhm.... Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu 2nd Season Episode 7 Discussion
Aug 30, 2020 4:03 PM

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lol my bad. I tried to find that post since I saw before it but didn't remember where it was.
Aug 30, 2020 8:52 PM

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One of the best episodes of Re:Zero tbh, but maaan, that rabbit scene will sure give me some nightmares in the next couple days lol.
Aug 30, 2020 9:11 PM

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Imma be real with yall,
This season has no where near the emotional bite that the first season had.

Like seriously, if you guys are considering this episode one of the best Re:zero episodes you've seen, you obviously care more for shock factor and gore than coherent emotional buildup and catharsis from character development.

Not a bad episode per se, but still not really that exceptional either.
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Damn, this Roswaal really know everything, huh.

Also, this mean that Satella's power can't reach on Echidna's "realm" and maybe the other witch too, now that's interesting. And seems like Echidna know everything about Subaru since he came to this world, as expected from witch I guess.
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MSK3 said:
Imma be real with yall,
This season has no where near the emotional bite that the first season had.

Like seriously, if you guys are considering this episode one of the best Re:zero episodes you've seen, you obviously care more for shock factor and gore than coherent emotional buildup and catharsis from character development.

Not a bad episode per se, but still not really that exceptional either.

Most of people here praised the revealing scene this episode not the rabbit scene dude.
8 episodes and we got 4 moments of emotional: Subaru's past, the POV suffering, Beatrice vs. Subaru and Echidna vs. Subaru.

Season 1 with 8 eps I think has the same numbers.

Aug 30, 2020 11:04 PM
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Dear God this episode was amazing It's my favorite episode of the whole series probably and that's saying a lot definitely a 10 out of 10 episode So much emotion.
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DirtyOldGuy said:
MSK3 said:
Imma be real with yall,
This season has no where near the emotional bite that the first season had.

Like seriously, if you guys are considering this episode one of the best Re:zero episodes you've seen, you obviously care more for shock factor and gore than coherent emotional buildup and catharsis from character development.

Not a bad episode per se, but still not really that exceptional either.

Most of people here praised the revealing scene this episode not the rabbit scene dude.


Season 1 with 8 eps I think has the same numbers.


I mean just looking by the numbers of comments about the goddamn rabbits, it seems like there is more talking about the rabbits than the reveal.

I will say that the Beatrice scene was a return to form of the first season, and was among the best parts of this season so far. On the other hand, the entire reveal of Subaru's powers to Echidna was poorly executed. All together, Subaru's interactions with Echidna have never really been that good. The tonal shift after his death to the scene with Echidna was incredibly odd. Regardless if it's canon that Echidna can take away the fear and other negative emotion from a person when they enter into her void, what they do with Subaru after he comes back to the tea party thing is just poor writing. He goes from an incredibly traumatic scene wherein he gets eaten by rabbits, to the floor in the sanctuary, to slamming his head into the ground so hard that it bleeds, and then to a tea conversation where he talks jovially with Echidna. Then, after messing around with Echidna and accidentally drinking some of her body fluids, the tone gets serious again, and then Subaru starts crying after he finally is able to tell someone that he can Return by Death. Like what the fuck, the emotional state you're in just kind of goes all over the place.

Again, looking back at the Beatrice scene, or any of the better scenes throughout the 1st or 2nd season, you will see that the key is tonal consistency. Any interaction with Subaru and Echidna is so wildly inconsistent that any development that occurs when one is in the presence of the other feels slightly artificial. Given that massive plot points hinge on their interaction, it just becomes harder to feel as emotionally invested in development when it doesn't have the genuineness of the 1st season.
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MSK3 said:
DirtyOldGuy said:

Most of people here praised the revealing scene this episode not the rabbit scene dude.


Season 1 with 8 eps I think has the same numbers.


I mean just looking by the numbers of comments about the goddamn rabbits, it seems like there is more talking about the rabbits than the reveal.

I will say that the Beatrice scene was a return to form of the first season, and was among the best parts of this season so far. On the other hand, the entire reveal of Subaru's powers to Echidna was poorly executed. All together, Subaru's interactions with Echidna have never really been that good. The tonal shift after his death to the scene with Echidna was incredibly odd. Regardless if it's canon that Echidna can take away the fear and other negative emotion from a person when they enter into her void, what they do with Subaru after he comes back to the tea party thing is just poor writing. He goes from an incredibly traumatic scene wherein he gets eaten by rabbits, to the floor in the sanctuary, to slamming his head into the ground so hard that it bleeds, and then to a tea conversation where he talks jovially with Echidna. Then, after messing around with Echidna and accidentally drinking some of her body fluids, the tone gets serious again, and then Subaru starts crying after he finally is able to tell someone that he can Return by Death. Like what the fuck, the emotional state you're in just kind of goes all over the place.

Again, looking back at the Beatrice scene, or any of the better scenes throughout the 1st or 2nd season, you will see that the key is tonal consistency. Any interaction with Subaru and Echidna is so wildly inconsistent that any development that occurs when one is in the presence of the other feels slightly artificial. Given that massive plot points hinge on their interaction, it just becomes harder to feel as emotionally invested in development when it doesn't have the genuineness of the 1st season.

Well all things you listed are all just your problems. I and other people feel the other way. This is just a problem of opinion so I don't say more.
The only problem I have with this season is the animation, nothing else.

Aug 31, 2020 1:50 AM
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good luck haterz . Probably we will have this shownfor next 20 years.
Aug 31, 2020 2:00 AM
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Slences said:
Definitely one of the best episode cuz the adaptation has been disappointed so far especially episode 1,2,6.This episode seem to be a turning point for re zero to able reach the same quality and smooth animation in season 1.

I noticed all Echidna scenes have good animation especially ep 8. They really want to buff her, don't they? Subaru himself has full of nice-drawing this ep in her 茢会.

Aug 31, 2020 4:46 AM

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omggggggggggg de hell did I just watch?

PTSD/10
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Aug 31, 2020 6:46 AM
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roswaal is the enemy and i think he knows subaru is
Aug 31, 2020 8:26 AM

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Man seeing subaru finally be able to get everything out of his chest really emotional . Ma man has been suffering for so long .
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Lmao people are seriously trying...

If you compare the first 8 episodes of both seasons, then in the emotional side this season is light years ahead.

And this season has not even reached the even greater parts, let alone the second cour.

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You can’t get hungry if you get eaten first.

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This is far from being the most emotional Re:Zero episode, but it's also a very good one.

It's funny seeing the HIGH IQ guys hating on this show.
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BromWalar said:
JiangHaoyi1979 said:
Yeah yeah I know, you're the expert.


What does that have to do with anything? I am correct no matter who I am. Disprove my point or stay with your delusions, your choice.
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