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| Damn that was anti-climactic. I knew Reiji put up a death-flag when he said he would return to Ein but at the last few minutes I figured I was wrong and bang. What the hell ? What happened? I'm all for ambiguous endings but this was just so bizarre.... My interpretation is that they both died. Kind of sad but whatever it was a fitting ending.... Sort of. I really liked Scythe, he was just such and evil fucker it was awesome. He sure loved to lube up his girls haha, fuck he was a great villain! I felt like he was similar to Light from Death Note. You know, thinking your plans could never fail and having a god complex. His death was definitely well done. I don't know whether to give this anime a 7 or an 8. The beginning was kind of slow but after about 5 episodes it really pulled me in and around episode 8 if I remember correctly it started getting great. The middle was still good but towards the ending of the middle it kind of dragged on a bit, I also don't really get the Cal hate I actually preferred her to Elen up until the last arc when Cal kind of became an evil character for the wrong reasons. Reiji was a so-so character I'm not sure what to think about him. I'm gonna give it an 8, even though it had its flaws it definitely was fun to watch and the ending kind of redeemed the sort of weak last arc. Great watch! |
noturaiOct 21, 2012 4:06 AM
| pointless plot was pointless wasted my time they did not achieve any thing major. completely disappointing ending they had to use a diabolus ex machina. ending was completely unoriginal. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| This anime is one of my favorites. Action-packed, smart, well-written, absolutely riveting, and beautifully depressing. Music was amazing as well. Beautiful OST Entire series gets a 10/10 for me |
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| Just rewatched the entire series. I still get a bit annoyed with the death of Reiji and Elen. But then again, they had nowhere else to go. They had found her hometown, killed scyche master and can't return to Reiji's city anytime soon. It feels fitting for an anime such as this, but I'm still a sucker for happily ever after. And hopefully even an epilogue to showcase it. ...I'm hopeless regarding that aspect. |
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Rodaa said: Just rewatched the entire series. I still get a bit annoyed with the death of Reiji and Elen. But then again, they had nowhere else to go. They had found her hometown, killed scyche master and can't return to Reiji's city anytime soon. It feels fitting for an anime such as this, but I'm still a sucker for happily ever after. And hopefully even an epilogue to showcase it. ...I'm hopeless regarding that aspect. I re-watched this series not to long ago also, and i thought to myself it would of been awesome if they made a third season. Just put it right between 1 and 2. Show Reiji and Ellen on the run from inferno. Then show how Cal became a full on phantom. Probably could of introduced more characters too. |
| *Standing applause* So this is it. It's finally over, Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom. One of the best shows I've ever seen. A definite re-watch someday, or better yet, I'll play the VN. This show started strong and maintained a 10/10 from me the first two arcs. It dropped to an 8 the last episode and regained a 9 this final episode. Now, I've read many theories on the "end" but I'm going to accept the one where Reiji got shot by the traveller and then Eren who felt fulfilled, consumed the poisonous flower, after she realized that Reiji was also dead. Wow, this is one of the first of "these" kind of endings I've ever experienced (don't know if I should count Code Geass lol). Oh yeah, Scythe Master's death was too glorious for him, I was expecting him to die in fear. Oh well, I guess he was actually the first one to say "he hated this world" in episode 1. He was one hell of a memorable character. 9/10, a definite re-watch and when taking a step back, a definite top 10 favourite anime of all time, and definitely my favourite Seinen as of yet. Way too many powerful/memorable scenes and characters in all 3 arcs overall. Glad I watched it, I'll never forget the journey of "Phantom". |
Kayaba-Jan 6, 2013 8:07 PM
| Man, that was a pretty lame death at the end. A lame death for the two best assassins -_- but whatever lol. It was also wayyy too easy for the other assassins to die but I guess with everyone dead, this ends the anime forever. |
 "I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika |
| Really good watch, enjoyed every second of it. Now for the ending, as of right now I'll stick with "both dead at the end" one, there is a lot of clues that support this theory + it makes the most sense for whole anime, with all 3 Phantom's dead, their Master dead, and those 6 girls dead as well. That's just what I think, then again, this is based on a game, and in the game a player chooses what kind of end he/she will get, either good or bad one, so they probably tried to do the same for anime, by setting up everything, and leaving it up to the watchers to decide what to do with Reiji and Eren at the end. Overall great anime, ofc it had some flaws, like McGuire guy staying alive at the end (jk, he's cool), but that doesn't take anything away from this anime in my opinion. |
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| A sad but beautiful ending. |
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| I've been thinking also... This particular ending, besides confusing the heck out of people with those vague scenes, is also actually quite sad for more reasons than just the fact that Reiji (and possibly Elen) dies. To be honest, I was kinda expecting something like it since the end of the 1st arc. If Reiji was no longer able to face his old life, then there was only one resolution for his character's story. However, when the dreaded ending did come, it was like a punch in the gut. And in some way it was because of the way Reiji dies. If you remember back in arc 2, Reiji was telling Cal that everyone dies and that it's the way you go that really matters. And that dying with someone mourning you is a good death. Unfortunately, by the time he and Elen arrive in Mongolia and he meets his own end, anyone who might have mourned him is gone. His own family have probably forgotten about him years ago. Claudia and Lizzy are gone. He had to kill Cal with his own hands. Scythe is also dead and Mio gets left behind in Japan. In a way, by the time the show ends Reiji and Elen's existence is a very lonely one, with no one else alive who really knew who they are (as people that is, Inferno is still there but to them they are now more of a legend and a wanted poster face). They are literally the last two standing from the string of characters that had been involved in this whole messy plot. And we would have been okay with it, because let's face it, they were on their way to freedom and we had already seen them build a niche for themselves in normal life by making friends already once in Japan, right? So it could happen again. They could set up home in Mongolia or wherever and a new Mio or whatever could appear. Except that they don't. The moment they find Elen's birthplace and their journey is over, Reiji life is unexpectedly cut short. In a way, even this would have been more tolerable if we had been shown Elen's reaction. Her agony, her grief, her tears. Someone mourning Reiji for all that he lost right there in the end. But we never see that. Even as the last scene fades, Elen is still smiling. Sure, she might be dying or whatever, depending on that theory you believe in, but that ending right there evoked a much more powerful sadness because it gives you the impression that in the end no one acknowledged Reiji's death. His and Elen's tortured existence, their mistakes, their hopes and despair, their struggles, everything, will simply go away in obscurity. And in my opinion, it's one of the reasons why killing Reiji like this had such a stronger effect on people. |
| this show was really good but why the f**K did Reiji and Elen have to die..The ending was...well theoretical and I have read some good speculations about this ending here but i will stick with them both bieng dead. |
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QuantumReality said: Wow I how you mentioned what Reiji said to Cal regarding the way someone dies and having someone else mourning for them because I kind of forgot about that. It's sad how both of them (well don't know about Eren but I think she did) died without someone to mourn for them. It was the most sudden death ever. What's worse was that we were given the illusion that they could live normal lives now, and even found Eren's "home" but then right when I saw that guy with the carriage, I knew death was coming. Seriously this was so sudden that I had no time to cry. Still, it was one of the most heartbreaking deaths ever. Both Reiji and Eren were thinking about their future, about how all they want is for each other to be happy, but then all of that is now nothing but a dream, a dream no one will care about. Without anyone to mourn for them, their deaths are meaningless. At least Cal had Reiji to mourn for her, but for Reiji and Eren...there's absolutely no one, really fitting way to die for "ghosts." It's even worse that Eren genuinely smiled when she turned around to look at Reiji, something Reiji longed to see, and he's no longer there to see it. This is probably the most depressing anime I've seen yet. But I think it couldn't have gone any other way, except to end it with both of them dying. After all, both of them can never really let go of their past deeds and will still live in pain and guilt for the rest of their lives if they were to live on. It's bittersweet, really. Death relived them of suffering. ;_; |
| Firstly what does AOE mean, anyone please. Lastly, I loved the last episode but I do not get why Zwei had to die, I was kinda hoping that him and Elen could have a normal peaceful life now that they had remembered their pasts. :-(,,, But I really loved this anime, I enjoyed it in every bit, the plot and character development was phenomenal and it really got to me on a deep level. Such creativity deserves only the highest praise. |
| What a depressing ass anime. But that's dark realism for you and it's still a very good depressing ride. |
Ichizuki said: Firstly what does AOE mean, anyone please Anime Original Ending. |
| "Hey! I'm totally an adult! I bitch and whine, lie through my teeth, and do things that are unfair." |
| Mr. Albino kinda reminded me of another villan from Gun x Sword and he met with a similar fate, that makes me happy.... But then that they go all the way to Mongolia and he gets killed. Weather or not she got her memory's back still leaves her in an orphan all alone in a place she has not been in years. And that other girl is going to be waiting for him for the rest of her life. The story, the acting, the music, the characters & character development was all really great, but God why does it have to be so depressing. I knew beforehand that this would be a depressing show but I didn't think it wold be this bad, I knew Cal would die (from a YouTube clip) but this is too much. I probably wold have rated it a little higher if at least both of the main characters had survived. I wish the people who made this show would have made a more lighthearted show or at least less depressing. What a waste of such good talent. |
| I like Hentai, you like real life. Instead of complaining about my tastes, be grateful you now don't have to compete against me. |
| I'm not really sure about my interpretation of the ending, but what I got out of it was that Eren recognized the sky when she reached up to it, and was satisfied that she was able to recognize the colors she saw in her dreams. This was enough for her. That was enough to bring out her natural smile, which is the only thing that still mattered to Reiji. I think that his assassination represented the harsh reality - that they would always be on the run from Inferno and would never be able to settle down peacefully. So once they finally reached Eren's homeland, both Eren and Reiji were satisfied that they could see the places they came from one more time and didn't want to run anymore. Reiji seemed to be at peace with his death, atoning for everything he'd done and moving on with Cal. But just as others have said, I think the tragic part is that Reiji died alone, fading away like a phantom. Ending aside though, overall I enjoyed this series but just wasn't emotionally invested into the characters or story. I wish the ending wasn't so vague, but my verdict is an 8/10. |
ZekkenshinJul 16, 2013 1:01 PM
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| loved the ending! great anime! hope in the future for an other adaptation of it! |
| Like robots? Then watch getter robot :D |
| Ending was 10/10 However for the leon the professional... and school part... It's 7/10 |
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| The series started out great for me. Everything up until the short time-skip was great but I didn't like anything after that. Some people love the ending, others don't it seems. I wasn't a fan of how this ended at all. =/ Watching way too many series where the ending disappoints me. Gave it a 6/10. Probably a 4 or 5 without those first few episodes. |
| love everything about this. absolutely beautiful from the beginning till the end. ending is just fantastic for those two tortured souls... i cried... with no second thoughts 10 from me! |
sorashikaDec 16, 2013 8:43 PM
| 私の力はあなたの理解を超えています |
| Everything was good until the final arc w/ the timeskip with a girl that somehow grows massive tits in 3 years or something. Lovely, just lovely. It was an okay arc, but it wasn't my type and oh that Bullshit of an ending >Rant I posted on final episode. |
TyrelDec 26, 2013 2:01 AM
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SatanicBeaver said: Well, that was an excellent ending. Which actually makes me feel kind of bad for giving it and overall 5/10, an Average. In the end, i just can't justify anything higher. It started and ended great, but everything in-between ranged from alright to pretty damn horrible, and even the alright parts were made worse by the means the story took to get to them in the terrible episode 10. The worst part of the show for me, was the erratic and nonsensical way in which most all of the characters acted from episode 10 to 23. Both Eren and Cal went through major character development in their respective arcs, only to have it all completely thrown away, and then magically come back for the ending. Reiji acted somewhat sane for the majority of the series, but even he ended up frustrating me with regards to Cal in the few episodes before 24, and his actions in episode 10 were the absolute worst part of the series for me. Because of all of this, even the excellent ending was really not effective because by then I had lost pretty much all feelings for all of the characters. The action was also pretty damn sub-par aside from the beginning and the ending. The best parts of the story for me were actually the Inferno side of the story, and everything involving Lizzie and Claudia. Both were good, constant characters, with interesting motives and stories. In the end, if it had been a 13 episode series with a whole lot cut out and some changed, it could have been great. It had a lot of potential, but mostly ended up failing to realize it and just becoming a frustrating series to watch. pretty this, i lost lot of interest at the episode 10 by how unreal this episode was at all. the plot was not so bad but because of big flaw like at the episode 10 or the loli girl become a tall and sexy girl in only 2 years, i cant give more that 6/10 actually, i dont regret to have watched it but i got dissapointed for sure |
| Yeah, as I said in my last post, there ain't happy ending for assassin. Uh, even in the end, Scythe had that stupid smug on his face. Hated him, glad he's dead. For those who were not sure if they were dead or not, I have read on this site that Elen ate the flower after Reiji died, meaning that she died poisonned. Weirdly, I just can't stop thinking that if she died poisonned, she couldn't have possibly died with a smile on his face xD Still it was so sad, god this is depressing... I should have seen it coming. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| the ending was... so fucked up it's beyond comprehension I would've given this anime a 9 if it stayed consistent... but when Reiji and Elen escaped to Japan together everything went downhill up to the end... 7/10 |
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| Nooo, soo saad! Poor Reiji, Elen smiled right at the moment he died. Dem tears... Life-long irony. Assassins simply don't have their fairytales for long, the past is always one step behind them. Anyway, I had a ride watching this show, it started slowly but every next ep is better and better up until ep 20 when it kinda slows down to catch the breath but last three eps were great again. Man, so much suffering and sadness in this show one almost can't bear it. But even that there were some hickups on the road from half-way through I had to maraton this and that is something I haven't done since Monster, there are very few anime that makes me do it. So in the end, I really enjoyed this. 8/10 |
| What a hilarious ending, had me cracking up for all the wrong reasons. While assassins inevitably being killed sure is a plausible ending the abruptness of this ending in particular is just too funny. Mostly because I had to sit through the god awful final arc and inevitable outcome that they would beat Drei and Scythe while watching them do so with Matrix like super human moves and embarrassingly incompetent antagonists. Although I would of liked it to redeem itself I'm just glad it's over. Another anime that I can cross off my list and forever have context for when someone brings up an "underrated" anime. I think I'm being rather generous with my rating but for now I'll leave at 5/10. I actually rather enjoyed the first 10 episodes or so and I finished this series in about a week. Which is really fast for me but after episode 11 I believe, it never fully recovered. |
| i really dont get the last scenes of this show. just dafuq? |
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| Expected somewhat a better ending, but to be honest I'm not sure what I would expect from this series ending, so in general it was a pretty okay ending. The series itself was okay it had some really good and rather bad moments with some very interesting characters and various development twists. So it was pretty lovely in general but somewhere I couldn't really like nor dislike the development I've got mixed feelings about the whole series but only basing on the quality of the overall series it was still pretty nice! 7/10 I do wonder what the 3 ova's have to offer for a story as I'll be watching that directly after this. |
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| Well this was the most depressing anime I've seen. Why can't I find a seinen anime with tragedy where the main character couple doesn't die or get separated at the end? |
HandsomeMan said: Well this was the most depressing anime I've seen. Why can't I find a seinen anime with tragedy where the main character couple doesn't die or get separated at the end? maybe try Ergo Proxy? |
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| This must be a first for me.. more than half the cast dies off and its still a great story. CAL's death was the most torturing for me.. it really hurts the deepest part. :'( Well.. in the end everyone died.. There are so many places where things could have been better but they just love to depress us so much. =.= I give credit for the amazing character developments and good twists.. but nobody kills off my fav character !! *CAL* Still.. it's worth the watch. |
| What a tragic end. So many people died, all for nothing. Really don't like the ending. Reiji gets shot and Eren dies by eating the petal of a poisonous flower. I guess a happy end was too much to ask for but now Reiji and Eren can finally rest in peace. Such a bitter-sweet ending. 10/10 |
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| Sad ending, but still good. Overall the series gets an 8/10. My biggest issue with the show was Cal in the last several episodes. I just didn't feel her motivation. She wants to kill Reiji so bad, but once she's dying in his arms, she acts like she wishes things could've been different. Idk. That part just doesn't sit well with me. Still enjoyed the show a lot, though. |
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| Amazing series and quite sad for last episode. Also, The ending is quite confusing @_@ |
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