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Jul 9, 2009 1:31 AM
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Thank you very much for the spoiler. How lovely.


Yay, axe-crazy eyes xD And was Maria watching Higurashi? o.o
I feel bad for George :(
I need to play the game.


It's not a spoiler.
Jul 9, 2009 1:39 AM

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First, I'd like to say that Maria watching the Higurashi Kai DVD shorts on TV made my day.

Second, wow. That was such an improvement over the first episode (surprise surprise). Granted, this is the part where the VN hooked me, too, but I got the Umineko shivers all over again watching it all animated.

Maria's letter reading was perfect. Her face during the whole thing made the scene, and I think it should give her some comeback after the uu- incident that people seemed to hate so much. Speaking of which, I think I caught only one or two quick uu-'s in the entire episode for those who care.

I was (more than) a bit disappointed at how they rushed through the chessboard talk, so hopefully they'll explain that concept more as it becomes increasingly important. I'm also still not a fan of the Battler-commenting-on-big-boobs scenes, but whatever, it doesn't completely kill the show for me, and I didn't like them in the VN either.

Back to the pluses, the second half of the episode was awe-inspiring. Natsuhi got some much-needed development with the Kinzo scene, and everything that happened starting the next morning was exactly what this show needed, and captured exactly what I loved so much about the VN's first chapter. I was also pleasantly surprised at how lenient the censors were on the faces. The one tiny complaint I had about the second half is that George's proposal scene seemed a little awkwardly executed. It was quickly made up for, though.

Voice acting was great all around, BGM was apparently awesome (I rarely listen for it on my first watchthrough, and I'm not one of those guys who can identify the VN's music by name) and it added a great deal to the mood, and I still love the OP and ED themes (ED is growing on me more and more each time I hear it - I guess I'm getting used to the guy's voice). Animation was serviceable, although I did notice one scene where Genji and Nanjo were walking kinda funny.

Things are getting good... ^_^

Sheepdude said:
it seems the game griefers won't be satisfied until the show becomes a thirty-hour long video of someone scrolling through the game text.
This. There's always the crowd like that.

The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai. You will be honored to accept his invitation.
Jul 9, 2009 1:40 AM
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Like I said in the episode 1 discussion thread, the ones who have played the game/visual novel will find all the faults in the story, like saying the story is being rushed and not enjoy it to the fullest. Thank goodness I'm an anime only watcher where I can enjoy it to the fullest and if the visual novel is better, that would be a bonus.

As far as the episode goes, it got better (or worse in this case), many more mysteries are popping up and murder has begun, the first move it is. I think the next few episodes will determine how for real this anime is.
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Cenedess said:
confused_kitsune said:


Thank you very much for the spoiler. How lovely.


Yay, axe-crazy eyes xD And was Maria watching Higurashi? o.o
I feel bad for George :(
I need to play the game.


Should it be considered a spoiler when it's information you should already long know? The first 10 minutes of the game, you learn that.

Well.. rereading. It's worded poorly. Kyrie is Battler's step-mom.
LunarEmeraldJul 9, 2009 1:44 AM
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PsychFreak said:
I think the next few episodes will determine how for real this anime is.
Having finished only the first chapter of the VN, all I can say in response to this is =)

The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai. You will be honored to accept his invitation.
Jul 9, 2009 1:56 AM

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MarthX said:
Cenedess said:
confused_kitsune said:


Thank you very much for the spoiler. How lovely.


Should it be considered a spoiler when it's information you should already long know? The first 10 minutes of the game, you learn that.

Well.. rereading. It's worded poorly. Kyrie is Battler's step-mom.


Ah, well, sorry for the poor wording. But honestly, they should mention it already, otherwise half of Episode IV would make absolutely no sense at all. It's kinda like the
in Higurashi, which was never mentioned in the anime, but consisted a crucial part.

Drengot said:
Too bad for people who played the game, this is an anime discussion. Please leave all the game BGM somewhere.


Why should we leave the BGMs when they're included in the anime?... had Umineko been like Higurashi, with a complete new soundtrack, there would have probably been less talk concerning music. But since Umineko is a sound novel, and since they're using remixes of the game tracks, and since we're appreciating that, why should we not discuss about it?
Jul 9, 2009 2:04 AM

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Hahaha, holy crap that's more like it.
Jul 9, 2009 2:11 AM

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Whoa, the scene when Maria was reading the letter was amazingly creepy. And I haven't played the game or anything, but I still thought this episode was a bit rushed and disjointed (/ducks from bricks), but it wasn't terrible enough that I didn't enjoy the show. I'm quite glad we're jumping into things, also the one-winged eagle symbol is awesome.
Jul 9, 2009 2:13 AM

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Mmmm already getting extremely exciting, can't wait for the next episode. <3
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Jul 9, 2009 2:14 AM

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Maybe for future episodes. Two threads should be created. One for the visual novel players and one for the anime only watchers.
Jul 9, 2009 2:31 AM

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MarthX said:
Maybe for future episodes. Two threads should be created. One for the visual novel players and one for the anime only watchers.


Not sure how good of an idea this would be. I have the vague impression that they would call us elitists or something. But yes, it would spare us from a lot of contradictory and possible spoiler~ish talk. (And for heavens, I don't mean to spoil anyone. There are plenty of series where I didn't read the original source material and was spoilered by those who did, so I do understand the anime viewers' POV.)

On the other hand
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Bitching bitching bitching bitching


Play the damn game already before you criticize someone for being anxious, young girl.
Jul 9, 2009 2:35 AM

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Oh I found so much potential in this anime.It can easily become one of the best for the season.
Jul 9, 2009 2:35 AM

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Or the vn players should just talk about the anime. I played the vn too, but if an information like Kyrie's identity is not revealed it's a spoil even if we learn it in the beginning of the vn.

The episode was good, I was impressed by Jessica's yell.
Jul 9, 2009 2:39 AM

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Creepy Maria is creepy.

WTF I was expecting seeing the family getting killed 1 by 1 not a complete slaughter at the beginning. I don't know why they even bother put them in the OP.
Guess it's going to be a 12 episodes series.
Jul 9, 2009 2:46 AM

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hell that was insane. totally cool. didnt think it would develop so fast. and when maria got her ring i thought something will happen to her, and i was right T_T
wants to see next~~ but i really hope it wont be censored.


Jul 9, 2009 2:50 AM

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Oh boy, this nerdrage is delicious, but I didnt expect anything else.

I liked it very much and I think it was a good adaption, of course you cant capture every single detail of the VN because this show would need at least 100 eps that way.

Im just watching this to see my favourite scenes animated, thats all, I dont care if its not perfect, I have the VN for that :3


Jul 9, 2009 2:53 AM

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Holy shit. Killing off shannon and battlers mom. Im definitely more interested in this than Higurashi.
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Jul 9, 2009 2:53 AM
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Seriously, create a topic where you can talk about VN, I don't want to read damn spoilers, if I wanted to know what will happen so bad I would play the game already.


Anyway, does anyone else think that Kanon is an asshole. Really, he spoke 2 times and he annoyed the hell out of me both times. Furniture? Go kill yourself, Kanon.

I wonder if Kinzo molested him when he was a kid or something.
Jul 9, 2009 2:56 AM

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Jure said:
Seriously, create a topic where you can talk about VN, I don't want to read damn spoilers, if I wanted to know what will happen so bad I would play the game already.


Anyway, does anyone else think that Kanon is an asshole. Really, he spoke 2 times and he annoyed the hell out of me both times. Furniture? Go kill yourself, Kanon.

I wonder if Kinzo molested him when he was a kid or something.


Kanon is love.
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Jul 9, 2009 3:04 AM

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MarthX said:
Maybe for future episodes. Two threads should be created. One for the visual novel players and one for the anime only watchers.


Might be a good idea. Too much opposition from two completely different types of viewers. Just create a megathread or something for VN readers, and leave the people new to the series to these threads. I don't know though, this wouldn't be needed if people stopped complaining about eachother.
Jul 9, 2009 3:08 AM

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I also think the VN-people need to be a little bit more cautions.

The episode was good. Not much to complain about.

Only two points:
- 6 deaths already and we didn't get much to see of some of these 6 guys. I even have a hard time to remember which persons those 6 are. I mean Shanon and Battler's parents and the cook and Krause, but the 6th is not there in my mind, therefore it might have really been a bit too fast when a non-VN viewer can't even remember everyone that was killed after only 2 episodes.

- Battler's reaction seemed really unreal. I mean his parents were killed. A long time he did nothing and then he let out a scream that was not really convincing and kind of strange. Really, that reaction felt wrong. Totally forced.

On another note, I really hope there is an interesting plot, because right now judging from the text underneath the painting it seems like one after the other is getting killed until Bea emerges and has some interactions with Battler judging from the OP. I mean since you already know about more killings, that's kind of totally anticlimactic and boring. I hope there is some more to this show.
Jul 9, 2009 3:20 AM
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Wow, what a crazy episode. Definitely enjoying this show, and although I can't comment on what it's like compared to the VN (since I never played it), I must say that this is definitely some compelling stuff. 4/5.
Jul 9, 2009 3:26 AM
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Hybrid00 said:
Kanon is love.
Apparently, he is a furniture.
Jul 9, 2009 3:29 AM

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Forever said:
- 6 deaths already and we didn't get much to see of some of these 6 guys. I even have a hard time to remember which persons those 6 are. I mean Shanon and Battler's parents and the cook and Krause, but the 6th is not there in my mind, therefore it might have really been a bit too fast when a non-VN viewer can't even remember everyone that was killed after only 2 episodes.


*Krauss
The sixth one was Rosa.
Jul 9, 2009 3:34 AM

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Oresund said:


Hybrid00 said:
Kanon is love.


This. Kanon may seem a little annoying with this 'furniture' thing. But he needs loev too. :<


WAIT "HE", shit I was convinced he was a she till now D:

BTW the VA were translated to English? Where can I find them?
Jul 9, 2009 3:44 AM

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Soulstrider said:
BTW the VA were translated to English? Where can I find them?


Here you go, the English patch. You need to have the original game, though.
Jul 9, 2009 4:00 AM

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Pretty nicely done. I was extremely concerned about how they were gonna censure the first twilight, but it seemed well done too me. Thing is iv'e been getting mixed up with scenes from ep 1, 2 and 3 so going through the events again is confusing me a bit.

I just read through the thread and i see no problem from the VN readers (me being one). There hasn't been a single spoiler. there is honestly no reason they would keep Kyrie's position and the name Ange a secret so it must have just been scenes they didn't have time for (which will make it hard on them when their gonna need to bring it up), hence no spoilers. And seeing how the BGM was one of the main points to the game it's a given that people who've played will want to bring it up. But i guess all it takes is 1 pissed off person bitching to tern the whole thread upside down -_-
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Forever said:
therefore it might have really been a bit too fast when a non-VN viewer can't even remember everyone that was killed after only 2 episodes.

I have to say that as a VN player, I didn't remember them at first either. But thank God the games have a list of the characters where the time and cause of death is stated. Unfortunately it's something you can't do in the anime ^^'

Forever said:
- Battler's reaction seemed really unreal. I mean his parents were killed. A long time he did nothing and then he let out a scream that was not really convincing and kind of strange. Really, that reaction felt wrong. Totally forced.

My thoughts exactly, it was kind of forced :/ Jessica's reaction was much better.

Forever said:
that's kind of totally anticlimactic and boring. I hope there is some more to this show.

Believe me my friend, there will be muwhahaha :D
Jul 9, 2009 4:32 AM

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Hybrid00 said:

Kanon is love.

Definitely. I don't think he's annoying (unlike Shanon and fanservice for guys -_-), somehow he resembles Ritsuka from Loveless... It's a pity that he has different seiyuu :<

Forever said:
- Battler's reaction seemed really unreal. I mean his parents were killed. A long time he did nothing and then he let out a scream that was not really convincing and kind of strange. Really, that reaction felt wrong. Totally forced.

I couldn't agree more.
Jul 9, 2009 4:36 AM

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confused_kitsune said:
The sixth one was Rosa.
Ah right. Maria's mother. Thanks for clearing that up.
Too bad. I have the feeling I will miss Rosa, Battler's mom and Shanon. They were kind of interesting.

SunyiNyufi said:
Jessica's reaction was much better.
Agreed. No complaints with her reaction.

SunyiNyufi said:
Believe me my friend, there will be muwhahaha :D
I will believe it for now. Only because it's you, though! ;P
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Forever said:
SunyiNyufi said:
Believe me my friend, there will be muwhahaha :D
I will believe it for now. Only because it's you, though! ;P

I feel so special :D
Jul 9, 2009 5:13 AM

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I love the direction this series seems to be going. It's like an old murder mystery, mixed with Higurashi-style gore. I can't wait for more.
Jul 9, 2009 5:39 AM

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Hybrid00 said:
Kanon is love.


Yeah they made him pretty moé. I'm sure there will be hundreds of Kanon doujins later on for you fangirls to schlick to.

This was a huge improvement over the first episode in terms of pacing. I especially liked how they didn't completely pussy out on the murders.
Jul 9, 2009 6:10 AM

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far too rushed...
many good scenes that rushed like george-shannon scene, turn back the chessboard scene, beatrice gold scene and many more...

i'm a lil dissapointed, but the gore is good !! yeah !!
Jul 9, 2009 6:16 AM

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Jure said:
Anyway, does anyone else think that Kanon is an asshole. Really, he spoke 2 times and he annoyed the hell out of me both times. Furniture? Go kill yourself, Kanon.

He is a butler and that's why they're like furnitures. And god, Kanon is like the best character from the whole serie.

Aa, forgot to say this on my first post; the first half was kinda rushed, but the second half ... they really made it, thanks DEEN. And Inoue Marina as Jessica was great choice, that scream was perfect ~


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Six deaths already.....
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After the 2nd episode, this crap is officially dropped.
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Jul 9, 2009 6:33 AM
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Still waiting for Battler and Kyrie


Couldn't tell that this is considered a spoiler.
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Sonja said:
He is a butler and that's why they're like furnitures.
I am telling you, that's exactly what I hate about him. Why would he be a furniture if he is a butler? It's not like he is a slave, damn it. He can always quit his job if he hates it that much.


I see people saying that this episode is rushed. I really don't see what's so rushed here, everything looks natural to me... well, except the fact that 6 people's faces got brutally violated.
Jul 9, 2009 7:08 AM
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Sonja said:
He is a butler and that's why they're like furnitures.
I am telling you, that's exactly what I hate about him. Why would he be a furniture if he is a butler? It's not like he is a slave, damn it. He can always quit his job if he hates it that much.


He is a slave in a sense. You'll learn more about him later, and will definitely grow onto you. Reasons why he is also explained later.

Kanon and Shannon has never really gotten out of Rokkenjima. Even his musical and culinary tastes and such are acquired from the Ushiromiya family, whom he isn't even related to.

Genji, Shannon, and Kanon are all furniture. Kumasawa and Gohda however, not really.


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That was a pretty violent episode. I just want to know how they're going to deal with killing off a third of the cast in a single episode.
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Jul 9, 2009 7:45 AM

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z2000 said:
Still waiting for [...] to be badass. Battler that should be in Episode [...] ... [...] that's a long ways til now.


Thanks for spoiling ... -.-

That why I said the VN people should be more careful.

She died this episode. Guess what your sentence means for an anime only viewer?
Jul 9, 2009 7:45 AM

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If something like the higurashi axe murder of 2007 happens with this... O.o

I can say only one thing. Nice boat!
Jul 9, 2009 7:47 AM
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Since I'm not familiar with the source material I thought this episode was pretty good and definitely above average. I have to agree on the rushed feeling though... the show moves really quickly and leaves a lot of the characters feeling shallow. It doesn't help when they kill off a third of the cast in a single episode... but I guess in typical "Higurashi" fashion things will be explained later on and given back story.
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Jul 9, 2009 8:23 AM
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Hmm, I seriously hope the epitaph will be read in its entirety somewhere in the beginning of the next episode. It would be a little too late (should have been done before anyone was killed), but would be better than nothing. The only reference they made to it was when, in episode I-I, Battler said "thirteen people would be dead by the eighth night" while nothing was mentioned about how six people would be killed in the first night.

Meh, we'll see how next episode pans out. Have to wait another week again >:^(.
Jul 9, 2009 8:24 AM

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that was a disturbing episode, loved it though <3
Jul 9, 2009 8:31 AM

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Wow what a amazing episode, I freaked out at the end and totally didn't expected this (I didn't wanted spoilers either so I never looked it up).
Can't wait for more this was really amazing, the only anime this season I really looked forward to.
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seishi-sama said:
After the 2nd episode, this crap is officially dropped.
Yeah, nothing interesting so far. Hope Beatrice doesn't exist. Otherwise I will drop the series too.
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Did anyone else notice that Maria was watch Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai?
:D

Awww :( At the end of the episode I felt so bad for Jessia, Battler and George X(

Music is from the soul~ ♥
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