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Oct 11, 2012 11:30 AM
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Minus the new girl, it reminded me a little of GITS
Oct 11, 2012 11:31 AM
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This into ep was fantastic, some great setting up for the dystopian world. Akane is definitely in the right for shooting Kou, as latency is directly proportional to stress level just talking the woman out of it saved her life instead of hooting her there and then. It's also great how criminals are actually made by the psycho-pass system as these latent criminals turn into real ones through social conditioning. I am so gonna root for Shogo as he's prob gonna be in the right for the entirety of the show. This is so freaking watched.
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June93 said:
This into ep was fantastic, some great setting up for the dystopian world. Akane is definitely in the right for shooting Kou, as latency is directly proportional to stress level just talking the woman out of it saved her life instead of hooting her there and then. It's also great how criminals are actually made by the psycho-pass system as these latent criminals turn into real ones through social conditioning. I am so gonna root for Shogo as he's prob gonna be in the right for the entirety of the show. This is so freaking watched.


Dont be trying to justify that annoying bitch actions and you cant put logic in anime.
Oct 11, 2012 11:34 AM

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Damn, that guy blew up like a watermelon and it wasn't even censored to boot.

I already see the issue with letting the system decide what action to take against criminals instead of using your own judgement. Let's see if this comes to bite them in the ass later.
Oct 11, 2012 11:35 AM

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Not for the faint hearted.
The whole series is intended to be as mature and PRO as Fate Zero was and as a matter of fact:
http://myanimelist.net/people/10308/Urobuchi_Gen
START SAYING! YEAH! HE IS IN! YEAH!


Aren't I allowed to mention it? :P

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AmberFebruary said:
and am i the only one thinking Ishida Akira should be the one voicing Makishima Shogo XD


yup sakurai is the best but i think that akira ishida isnt the right one too voice the red haired guy soome more anoying voice like kaiji (= shu) should had voiced him
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June93 said:
This into ep was fantastic, some great setting up for the dystopian world. Akane is definitely in the right for shooting Kou, as latency is directly proportional to stress level just talking the woman out of it saved her life instead of hooting her there and then. It's also great how criminals are actually made by the psycho-pass system as these latent criminals turn into real ones through social conditioning. I am so gonna root for Shogo as he's prob gonna be in the right for the entirety of the show. This is so freaking watched.


Agree with this. At first I was mad when Akane shot Kou, but when I saw that the gun changed to just a paralyzer...I was surprised. I had no idea it could just change like that, which leads me to think that they could kill a lot of people who could of been helped and not killed. Also she's a rookie, she'll understand what she has to do as she starts to see what its really like.
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Oct 11, 2012 11:42 AM

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It was cool. Although I kind of understand the girls way of thinking, that the other girl was just a victim here, it was not her fault that her psyche got warped up but the hell... i hope she gets tougher as the show goes on. Like kind of losing this innocent worldview would be quite nice.
Heck there's a lot more stories about "humanizing" tough guys, let it be a little about toughening some rookie girl in the police force (or whatever it is). Otherwise she could get on my nerves like, a lot.

But well, I kind of like how the situation turned out in the end and it's thanks to her that one more life was saved. Or not? We shall see.
Oct 11, 2012 11:46 AM

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bonifide said:
I hope she dies.


This, show would be so much better without her.
Oct 11, 2012 11:47 AM

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It was kind of ok
nothing too original - basic rookie that learns about hardship of life, becomes stronger but less idealistic, setting.

One problem I have is main character...
but maybe she starts acting like officer, as this time it was meh
Oct 11, 2012 11:49 AM
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Not as good as I hoped it would be. It's obviously trying to be a Ghost in the Shell or Minority Report kind of series, and I certainly applaud that, but there's just too much infodump going on in the first episode and the part with the victim just comes across as forced for the sake of making the newbie girl [who supposedly was the top of her class but for some reason needs the most basic facts of futuristic law-enforcement spelled out for her] decided between killing a victim that hasn't done anything wrong and shooting her "partner."

I'm not giving up on it, but this episode is much closer to a 3 than a 5.
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bonifide said:
June93 said:
This into ep was fantastic, some great setting up for the dystopian world. Akane is definitely in the right for shooting Kou, as latency is directly proportional to stress level just talking the woman out of it saved her life instead of hooting her there and then. It's also great how criminals are actually made by the psycho-pass system as these latent criminals turn into real ones through social conditioning. I am so gonna root for Shogo as he's prob gonna be in the right for the entirety of the show. This is so freaking watched.


Dont be trying to justify that annoying bitch actions and you cant put logic in anime.
I wouldn't say it makes her annoying, I mean if she hadn't shot him I'd say the story would be worse off because we would have no moral compass except for what is most likely the main antagonist of the show (Shogo) and the cast would be a bunch of tools, moral conflicts among the group only make the characters more compelling especially with an Orwellian setting such as this. I personally can't wait to see how the individual members of the group react to Akane's actions in the next episode. The one thing that is ambiguos about the show now is Shogo, if they can manage to make him a compelling antagonist with a sympathetic view in this harsh world and not some Joker ripoff (wanting to see the world burn) then the show will be golden.
edit: Also it will be interesting to see the antagonist on what we see as the morally correct side in the grand scheme of things as he seems to detest the dystopian regime by his profile and the scan of him holding a copy of 1984.
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I would totally hate living in a world like this.

Ok start, not too different from what I expected. Well except the gun thing. That's neat. I just hope the story/characterization doesn't go in the most obvious direction. I've seen enough movies with similar systems and stuff. Surprise us, Urobuchi!

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i think that akira ishida isnt the right one too voice the red haired guy soome more anoying voice like kaiji (= shu) should had voiced him
NO.
Oct 11, 2012 12:11 PM

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Well, I already hate the world they live in after just one episode so I guess they did a good job. Not sure if I will keep watching, because I hate dystopias unless the protagonists are some kind of resistance/revolutionists.
Oct 11, 2012 12:12 PM

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I absolutly loved this, Im really liking the concept of this show. The only thing I disliked was Akane.
Oct 11, 2012 12:14 PM

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Finally a mature anime.
I loved the world and technology they have. The background music really got my attention and liked it a lot!
I somehow got the feeling that this felt like watching a movie which is really surprising and positive! One of my favorite series from this season 5/5 loved it!
Oct 11, 2012 12:15 PM
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Reinou said:
Well, I already hate the world they live in after just one episode so I guess they did a good job. Not sure if I will keep watching, because I hate dystopias unless the protagonists are some kind of resistance/revolutionists.
I think the show is just about set up for something along those lines, with Akane momentarily going against the system and whatnot. Plus Shogo is most likely going to cause huge problems in opposition to the government. Seeing as this si Urobuchi however I wouldn't be surprised if some of the cast ended up going against the system by the end of the story and being totally crushed in a despair fileld ending with a spark of hope.
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InfiniteDestiny said:
bonifide said:
I hope she dies.


This, show would be so much better without her.


Dude she's a rookie and it was her first case, suddenly being thrown into a mad world, what do you expect? Cold-blooded like those lethal criminals?

At least she saved a life which I thought the hostage would dead, so there's a glitch in this system as well. It's kinda unstable to exactly measure the mind of a human being ...

Wow I like this a lot, deep psychological stuff there.
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The OP is fucking awesome.
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That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain."
Oct 11, 2012 12:20 PM

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Interesting series, for a bunch of reasons.

I know, judging from the comments so far, that there isn't a real high opinion of Akane so far. How does a little, naive girl end up being the top of her class at the academy and act this befuddled? It does seem odd, but this is the impression I get from it. Do any of you remember your first day at a new job, especially a job where you feel like you're under-qualified for? I guess the point I'm trying to make is Akane is being thrown into a situation that not most rookie officers are thrown into on their first case.

While a lot of people noticed "Akane", I loved the "psychology" behind this episode. Basically these officers are armed with weapons that take out their targets in a fashion that's deemed acceptable by a computer system that acts much like a judge. What made this episode interesting was that this program can only make determinations based on a person's psychological state and not take into consideration why that person is in such a state. The last 5 minutes of the episode was great! Here's a victim that was kidnapped, raped, and deceived into thinking that she's a criminal. Her kidnapper is essentially "blown up" right in front of her eyes by people with guns that are also pointing them at her. Naturally, she panics and figures the best way out would be to start a fire and kill herself on the spot. A horrible way to commit suicide due to the level of suffering you'd go through before you'd die, but a method nevertheless. Here's where it gets good. Shinya has the shot to take her out but Akane, despite panicked, understands the situation. She understands that the woman is only under an egregious amount of stress and is only acting in the moment. She shoots Shinya to stop him from taking the shot, knowing the gun will only paralyze him and follows up by calming the victim down so she'll drop the lighter. Another thing to keep in mind (and I'm not sure if Akane did this in her own brilliance or not) is if Shinya takes that shot, the woman drops the lighter and the whole place goes boom.

To see Akane in action was interesting because she rubs off as an incompetent, inexperienced police officer while, underneath it all, was the brightest mind in that entire situation.
Oct 11, 2012 12:22 PM

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Fun anime, the only thing i don't like tho is that the main girl's face is to flat.
Oct 11, 2012 12:26 PM

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June93 said:
Reinou said:
Well, I already hate the world they live in after just one episode so I guess they did a good job. Not sure if I will keep watching, because I hate dystopias unless the protagonists are some kind of resistance/revolutionists.
I think the show is just about set up for something along those lines, with Akane momentarily going against the system and whatnot. Plus Shogo is most likely going to cause huge problems in opposition to the government. Seeing as this si Urobuchi however I wouldn't be surprised if some of the cast ended up going against the system by the end of the story and being totally crushed in a despair fileld ending with a spark of hope.

Yeah, that wouldn't be bad actually. I guess I'm going to stay for at least a few more episodes to see how it turns out.
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Takana_no_Hana said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
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I hope she dies.


This, show would be so much better without her.


Dude she's a rookie and it was her first case, suddenly being thrown into a mad world, what do you expect? Cold-blooded like those lethal criminals?

At least she saved a life which I thought the hostage would dead, so there's a glitch in this system as well. It's kinda unstable to exactly measure the mind of a human being ...

Wow I like this a lot, deep psychological stuff there.


I know I posted it after you (wrote it while you were commenting), but that's what I LOVED about the situation. Essentially the comments I made were that she rubs off as a useless character, but you have to look more closely at the situation. Her first day on the job where she's thrown into a bad situation due to understaffing, she not only saves a person's life, but prevents a fire that could've thrown the rest of their lives into peril. If Shinya takes the shot, the woman drops the lighter and the whole place burns up. Akane made a brilliant fucking move because she fully understood the situation whereas the enforcers like Shinya are only acting based on "taking the criminals out".

I found it to be psychologically brilliant!
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I know, judging from the comments so far, that there isn't a real high opinion of Akane so far. How does a little, naive girl end up being the top of her class at the academy and act this befuddled?


Thought: in Japan, "top of the class" is literally just "highest test scores." Maybe she's just a good test-taker.
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Toucanbird said:
I know, judging from the comments so far, that there isn't a real high opinion of Akane so far. How does a little, naive girl end up being the top of her class at the academy and act this befuddled?


Thought: in Japan, "top of the class" is literally just "highest test scores." Maybe she's just a good test-taker.
Exactly, she was just academically strong, doesn't mean she will have tough skin against the situations that she read about. I mean imagine if you did well in police academy, for some reason after you became a cop you were told to shoot someone during a riot (I use riot because these incude normally innocent people like the raped woman), you read about how to deal with this and wrote a thesis on it, can you still take the shot even if you feel it's not right?
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addiemon said:
Toucanbird said:
I know, judging from the comments so far, that there isn't a real high opinion of Akane so far. How does a little, naive girl end up being the top of her class at the academy and act this befuddled?


Thought: in Japan, "top of the class" is literally just "highest test scores." Maybe she's just a good test-taker.


I'm not really the one asking that question. That's more or less a statement of how some of the prior posters feel about her. I offered my explanations about her.

I don't doubt you one bit it's based off test-scoring. Even the discussion between Akane and Tomomi (actually, it's more of a lecture than a discussion) showed light on the situation where he says "you're better off forgetting everything you learned there" kinda tells me he knows the only reason why she's out there in the field that day is due to being smart.
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Takana_no_Hana said:

At least she saved a life which I thought the hostage would dead, so there's a glitch in this system as well. It's kinda unstable to exactly measure the mind of a human being ...


Actually, she didn't save anyone, Masaoka intended to paralyse the hostage just after the death of the criminal, but Akane prevented him from doing it, and because of that the hostage managed to flee. If it wasn't for this stupid intervention, the hostage would have been dealt exactly the same way and Akane wouldn't have to shoot Shinya.
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I am just wondering who to enticed by Akane's smile in the following,

??? The classical TIGER SMILE!

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SetsukoHara said:
Takana_no_Hana said:

At least she saved a life which I thought the hostage would dead, so there's a glitch in this system as well. It's kinda unstable to exactly measure the mind of a human being ...


Actually, she didn't save anyone, Masaoka intended to paralyse the hostage just after the death of the criminal, but Akane prevented him from doing it, and because of that the hostage managed to flee. If it wasn't for this stupid intervention, the hostage would have been dealt exactly the same way and Akane wouldn't have to shoot Shinya.
For all we know Akane could have assumed at that moment that calming the hostage down would reduce her latency to a level in which there would be no need to be paralyzed. After the hostage is knocked out she would be taken into therapy and would most likely be told that she is a probable criminal, thus having her become a stigma to the rest of society. It's likely that once you are taken in you are to be branded as a criminal for life and are to experience the feeling of being an outcast among the "Innocent civilians". However, this is all an assumption i drew and I could be completely wrong by future episodes as we have't seen how the procedures with dealing with these kind of people (just stressed out) are dealt with exactly.
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Why do I have the feeling that newbie is gonna mess things around?
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Why do I have the feeling that newbie is gonna mess things around?
Same here buddy and I suspect her nosing too much around.

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SetsukoHara said:
Actually, she didn't save anyone, Masaoka intended to paralyse the hostage just after the death of the criminal, but Akane prevented him from doing it, and because of that the hostage managed to flee. If it wasn't for this stupid intervention, the hostage would have been dealt exactly the same way and Akane wouldn't have to shoot Shinya.


This is true, but what she did showed how flawed this system is. Also if the rape victim was handled with care from the start instead of being paralyzed her criminality would have dropped even more. Akane probably acted on this assumption, and she wasn't wrong.
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First day at work :D


Hmm... this could become pretty interesting I must say.

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Why do I have the feeling that newbie is gonna mess things around?


I think she's this show Madoka. Her "naive" world view willl probably end up saving the world at the end.
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Lol i knew everyone would hate the girl...but I don't see why. This system is like 20 different types of flawed. It judges your criminality based on your mental state at that given moment...which is wrong since everyone has criminal thoughts at one time or another. The criminal in this episode is sort of a victim himself based on his little monologue about not doing anything but suddenly labeled a criminal.

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This is true, but what she did showed how flawed this system is. Also if the rape victim was handled with care from the start instead of being paralyzed her criminality would have dropped even more. Akane probably acted on this assumption, and she wasn't wrong.


This is pretty much what i was thinking. The most important part of the episode was how the gun changed from Lethal to non lethal mode after an exchange of words. System is black and white and we know things don't work that way.
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June93 said:
For all we know Akane could have assumed at that moment that calming the hostage down would reduce her latency to a level in which there would be no need to be paralyzed. After the hostage is knocked out she would be taken into therapy and would most likely be told that she is a probable criminal, thus having her become a stigma to the rest of society. It's likely that once you are taken in you are to be branded as a criminal for life and are to experience the feeling of being an outcast among the "Innocent civilians". However, this is all an assumption i drew and I could be completely wrong by future episodes as we have't seen how the procedures with dealing with these kind of people (just stressed out) are dealt with exactly.


Well, we'll see. Tbh, I also think that she was right, and yeah the system is flawed, it's clear the hostage was a victim in this situation. But I was mostly talking about the consequences of Akane's action, in the end, two people were shot: the rape victime and Shinya.
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Lol i knew everyone would hate the girl...but I don't see why. This system is like 20 different types of flawed. It judges your criminality based on your mental state at that given moment...which is wrong since everyone has criminal thoughts at one time or another. The criminal in this episode is sort of a victim himself based on his little monologue about not doing anything but suddenly labeled a criminal.


That's right, and when they chase a potential criminal, the stress of being hunted down makes them even more criminal.

The whole system is retarded as fuck. It's a pile of shit. I'm hoping protagonist girl will oppose this fucked up system.
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Pretty interesting love the new york environment feel also if there was a system where criminals work under the law with cool weapons everyone would want to be a criminal lol
That group is pretty messed up she was a victim all they had to do was calm her down not "oh look the gun says to kill her now soooo....um"
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there is always at least one shit character to ruin a good anime. why is it always a dumb illogical/irrational bitch who just gets in the way *cough* sakura from naruto *cough*

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there is always at least one shit character to ruin a good anime. why is it always a dumb illogical/irrational bitch who just gets in the way *cough* sakura from naruto *cough*


Even though she was probably (by human, not this worlds fucked up standards) the most logical/rational one.

I don't get it "lets paralyze and criminalize a rape/battery victim who just witnessed a brutal killing" is okay, but "hey don't shoot her she's pretty stressed and its affecting her mental state lets console her" is illogical and irrational.
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Jourdal said:
jfizzl said:
there is always at least one shit character to ruin a good anime. why is it always a dumb illogical/irrational bitch who just gets in the way *cough* sakura from naruto *cough*


Even though she was probably (by human, not this worlds fucked up standards) the most logical/rational one.


main character is fine. she is suffering from overdramatizing and cluelessness. but she's pretty intelligent and has a good sense of reason. i'm sure she'll settle into the job eventually. she's unfortunately not as aass as i'd like...
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Jourdal said:
Lol i knew everyone would hate the girl...but I don't see why. This system is like 20 different types of flawed. It judges your criminality based on your mental state at that given moment...which is wrong since everyone has criminal thoughts at one time or another. The criminal in this episode is sort of a victim himself based on his little monologue about not doing anything but suddenly labeled a criminal.


That's right, and when they chase a potential criminal, the stress of being hunted down makes them even more criminal.

The whole system is retarded as fuck. It's a pile of shit. I'm hoping protagonist girl will oppose this fucked up system.
Indeed, the system is a product made by the current government officials to keep their power and wealth over the populace, as no one will want to oppose since even a little stress can land you into criminal status, and as it seems from what the criminal dude was saying earlier the populace seems to be brainwashed or conditioned into believing that people with a high enough latency to them shouldn't be associated with and casted out of society.
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Can't expect anything less from Gen Urobuchi. Simply outstanding.
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It's basically HanaKana narrating homolust of characters.
Flop of the year? Not really but compared to expectations...
Dark and edgy fans will love it.
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What a mind bugging episode... really interesting but I think I will have a heart attack and trauma watching.. hehe.. but a really good one...
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That intro was amazing @_@ it was like something out of a movie. The whold case they handled was quite... disturbing. A dark show indeed. And a gun that makes people explode.. Dang. Anyways, this show looks interesting.

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
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It's not Akane's actions that bother me. It's more the overdramatic screaming and gun clutching that has me wincing.

But yeah overall good episode.
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Urobutcher once again has exceed my expectations
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June93 said:
1idd0kun said:
Jourdal said:
Lol i knew everyone would hate the girl...but I don't see why. This system is like 20 different types of flawed. It judges your criminality based on your mental state at that given moment...which is wrong since everyone has criminal thoughts at one time or another. The criminal in this episode is sort of a victim himself based on his little monologue about not doing anything but suddenly labeled a criminal.


That's right, and when they chase a potential criminal, the stress of being hunted down makes them even more criminal.

The whole system is retarded as fuck. It's a pile of shit. I'm hoping protagonist girl will oppose this fucked up system.
Indeed, the system is a product made by the current government officials to keep their power and wealth over the populace, as no one will want to oppose since even a little stress can land you into criminal status, and as it seems from what the criminal dude was saying earlier the populace seems to be brainwashed or conditioned into believing that people with a high enough latency to them shouldn't be associated with and casted out of society.


My God, I can see the conspiracy unraveling already.

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
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QuiGonJon said:
June93 said:
1idd0kun said:
Jourdal said:
Lol i knew everyone would hate the girl...but I don't see why. This system is like 20 different types of flawed. It judges your criminality based on your mental state at that given moment...which is wrong since everyone has criminal thoughts at one time or another. The criminal in this episode is sort of a victim himself based on his little monologue about not doing anything but suddenly labeled a criminal.


That's right, and when they chase a potential criminal, the stress of being hunted down makes them even more criminal.

The whole system is retarded as fuck. It's a pile of shit. I'm hoping protagonist girl will oppose this fucked up system.
Indeed, the system is a product made by the current government officials to keep their power and wealth over the populace, as no one will want to oppose since even a little stress can land you into criminal status, and as it seems from what the criminal dude was saying earlier the populace seems to be brainwashed or conditioned into believing that people with a high enough latency to them shouldn't be associated with and casted out of society.


My God, I can see the conspiracy unraveling already.
Thats right man, the big twist will be that Shogo wasn't bad the bad guy but the government itself. The cast will realize they've been used as tools, etc.., revolt, death, Bam Urobuchi-styled ending. Shogo will appear before Shinya butt naked, sitting on the ruins of a govt building while reciting quotes from 1984, Believe.
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