Hametsu no Oukoku Episode 6 Discussion

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Nov 11, 2023 2:38 PM

#41

hannibal_l

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This show has terrible main cast
Adonis is a psycho who has lost his mind doroka is stupid

Only hope for this show was the twist that a witch orchestrated everything behind the scenes hopefully the main cast gets better cause if all they are gonna do is kill people mindlessly it will be extremely annoying

Nov 11, 2023 3:07 PM

#42

Alex_the_reaper

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i understand why everyone thinks this is cringe and all but i still like it ngl
the way adonis DOESNT GIVE A FUK about anything rly, he was left in a binding state for years right after being subjected to trauma, that trauma vrewed inside his head and now he doesnt have goals or a personality he only wants ppl to pay, he isnt mov3d by tears or blood, he doesnt want to maie a better world for either side, he just want everyone to experience the pain and injustice of being persecuted and killed/seing loved ones getting killed for absolutely no reason. he doesn't have ideals that he wants to turn reality, he is not like lelouch from code geass who turned the world into a bloodbath to make it better at the end, or like eren who is willing to wipe out humanity so his friends that make up 0.1% of the world can live forever in peace, Adonis just want to off everyone

Nov 11, 2023 4:10 PM

#43

Otcho_Shogun28

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An anime that set out to aquire the (coveted?) title of edgiest anime in the World!

Honestly, this is a big disappointment for me after I kinda liked the first few episodes. The setting is super interesting and you could've really done a ton of great stuff with it. Instead we get a story that has just kinda removed any element that you need for a good show. It features an incredibly unsympathetic MC and with exception of Doroka every other Character apparently only gets introduced to be slaughtered wthin 2-3 episodes. The entire plot consists of just setting up one senseless massacre after another.

Dark and brutal series can be phenomenal, but you need to get the viewer to give a shit about what's happening. And that's where this fails. you have no emotional connection to anything on the screen. That's the big difference to works like Berserk, Made in Abyss or even Attack on Titan.
I care about Guts and Casca and want to see them prevail through all the fucked up mess they encounter and that's why the story works.

It is honesly impressive to manage to make something like Elfen Lied appear like a complex Character driven Drama in comparison. And that's not a compliment!

Nov 11, 2023 4:19 PM

#44

dragynfaerie

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I am not sure why I am still watching this. I can't find anyone to root for. Adonis is insane. His hand in the slaughter of the witches is unforgivable. Doroka is stupid. If she didn't want the men to be slaughtered, why didn't she release them from her spell? At least release 2 or 3 to fight Adonis. And the humans, well, that's what the conqueror has done throughout history (pretend to be friendly and then kill & destroy). Now we have a witch (former) queen (knew it first time I saw her) that looks suspiciously like Doroka and also has a Dor name. Guess they're sisters maybe twins. I dunno. I kinda want their whole world to burn leaving only animals.

dragynfaerieNov 11, 2023 4:24 PM

Nov 11, 2023 7:42 PM

#45

Tomimi

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I like how this anime started but the rest of the episodes kinda sucks. It's chaotic and dumb, most of the things he did didn't make sense and not even in a childish way it was just stupid. They keep introducing side characters that doesn't really play a role, like what's the point of showing them wasting precious frames? Its already sus that the queen was wearing a veil over her head while the rest of the women in the anime - just the genocide didn't make sense until this episode.

Idk I might need episode 7 to see if I drop this or not.

Nov 11, 2023 10:03 PM

#46

KANLen09

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Doroka was essentially the game changing factor with her Love Spell: Mandragora, convincing Director Yamato to cease the fighting and not giving Adonis the light of day to get him killed then and there. But Doroka chaps on her idea of witches and humans being in commune together, though Adonis is having none of this nonsense and wants revenge upon all.

Emperor Goethe may still be living and breathing, but his desire is still the same for the eradication of all witches. The twist though, is with Goethe's wife complimenting him for his efforts, though she is a witch herself as well, being ensnared under the same Mandragora Love Spell as Yamato did. The realization that the empress is a witch herself, the Love Spell proves too much, and Usagi claims the world with her: Dorothea, the witch of the unknown, to get Adonis's quill back.

To Adonis, revenge is his fulfillment, though he won't hesitate to kill Doroka if she interrupts him, and his Paravoice was the message that the National Security Bureau heard, which Director Theta instantly knew that it wasn't him. And with that, both Adonis and Doroka gets transported back to Earth, bading fare well to Lunamille, now the Kingdoms of Ruin.

Director Theta is ready for Adonis's return, but will she get the result of eradicating the witch's apprentice?

Nov 11, 2023 11:50 PM

#47

ItsTankCraft

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the writing is terrible. how come witches with powerfull spell lose against some humans with guns. you can see them standing idly waiting to be slaughtered. man the writing annoys me

Nov 12, 2023 2:01 AM

#48

Lanz

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As everyone knows it's really stupid all around, but ignoring that
There was far too much spoken exposition

Nov 12, 2023 6:04 AM

#49

GooseHybrid

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The previous episode (ep. 5) was incredibly silly, so at least this was slightly better, but the scenes on the moon still felt pretty silly and disappointing. It would have been interesting to see a bewitched Yamato return to Earth as a pacifist too rather than just doing an edgy "sudden gory murder" moment.

The Queen being a witch was really cool though, and the scenes with the Emperor were entertaining and interesting.

Nov 12, 2023 9:29 AM

#50

1WanteD1

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Finally, a story no one can predict... finally a story that there is no POWER OF FRIENDSHIP LOL!
Of course, this anime is not for soft boys!
Underrated! So far 10/10 for me.

Nov 12, 2023 9:49 AM

#51

RedChrome

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Still savage as ever and while I do not like Yamato but his death is little funny

Okay so I guess I suspected that the queen has something to do the witch hunt but turns she is the mastermind, kinda change my perspective of this show a bit

Nov 12, 2023 9:52 AM

#52

RedChrome

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Yes! Kingdom of C**iburn is here!!!!!

@Kenfahmiii Love to see it, the prequel can give us a bit more info about what happened before

Nov 12, 2023 11:46 AM

#53

The_Black_B3ast

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This anime knows how 2 leave u wanting more. He apologised does this mean he is become more human again? I KNEW IT THAT THE QUEEN WAS BEHIND THIS. She gave sus vibes from the very first time we met her. NGL Adonis is very very OP.

Nov 12, 2023 1:46 PM

#54

Crashmatt

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this is some of the most edgy shit I've ever seen. Does Adonis have any redeeming qualities or is he just a dick the whole series?

in fact is there anyone worth liking in this show?

Nov 12, 2023 4:53 PM

#55

thowan

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Jan 2021

good adonis berserk mode

Nov 13, 2023 2:16 AM

#56

sandalfon_akil_6

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It was very sad sad & ...

Nov 13, 2023 3:25 AM

#57

Dw00010

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Jul 2021

Stay tuned for the next “Omg it’s so over this time for sure” scene, because whoever wrote this has on obsession with having 2 or 3 of those every episode.

Nov 13, 2023 9:09 AM

#58

LuisSV23

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Damn, I'm speechless, a lot of blood, almost like an execution of some Mexican cartel._.

Nov 13, 2023 10:46 AM

#59

Thille

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Alright, the story is still mostly a big mess, but at least it started to solidify at some point and peak my interest. Possibly some time travel or multiverse stuff?

Nov 13, 2023 11:46 PM

#60

Farabeuf

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The emperor went full Denethor. You never go full Denethor. And there is undoubtedly a connection between naive witch and Dorothea (quite a looker btw) who's really completely psycho.

Adonis is all stupidity and revenge. Unless he gets a brain transplant there's no way he can beat Dorothea. And now he's helped slaughter the one group of people that can help him achieve his objective.

FarabeufNov 14, 2023 12:17 AM

"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii

There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov

Nov 14, 2023 8:39 AM

#61

Yeshaiah2015yesh

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Dec 2022

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so that's the plot ha not very impressive not I mean convincing

Nov 14, 2023 7:12 PM

#62

GarudoHS

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WHAT THE F IS WRONG WITH THIS ANIME?! SERIOUSLY!
10/10

Nov 14, 2023 10:46 PM

#63

waldy713

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He who wore the face of Onii-san will inevitably face the imouto's revenge arc. Something to look forward to. 👍

Nov 14, 2023 10:47 PM

#64

waldy713

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Reply to 1WanteD1

Finally, a story no one can predict... finally a story that there is no POWER OF FRIENDSHIP LOL!
Of course, this anime is not for soft boys!
Underrated! So far 10/10 for me.

@1WanteD1 Through the power of friendship the imouto's fury will be realized.

Nov 16, 2023 4:03 AM

#65

Icarus1488

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Oct 2020

What a trashfire, holy shit.

Nov 19, 2023 4:47 AM

#66

LayZoNn

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Nov 2023

The worst Anime ever always woman destroying anime

Nov 21, 2023 7:01 AM

#67

matias067

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and it still goes on, the chains of hatred! i doubt Adonis can make homosapiens be eradicated lolz
4/5.

Nov 23, 2023 11:39 AM

#68

Xilpheed_Breaker

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Jan 2013

Doroka I don't like her, she's useless
she spares Villains.

Nov 24, 2023 6:04 AM

#69

Kingofpyrt12

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Jun 2022

Anime has a brutal killing sense of style

Dec 5, 2023 2:46 PM

#70

Kays90

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Reply to phantomfandom

I correctly predict (in ep1 thread) that the queen is actually the witch and also behind the witchhunt. Now it resolved just as I predict, I'll make another prediction.

This story is kinda loop. Doroka will fall in love with Adonis at some point, and somehow Adonis will die in the future, and Doroka want to bring him back at all cost, she will go as far as abandon her moral, becoming the greatest evil of all time, and travel across the multiverse just to find a way to bring him back, of course at some point she also change her name from Doroka to Dorothea, the same name of the witch that manipulate the king. But are Doroka and Dorothea the same person? Hard to say, my best guess is it's kinda like the multiverse version of herself.

@phantomfandom Your prediction is quite obvious. In this episode there were clear signs of Dorothea being Doroka (and Adonis's death or something like that).

Same magic of now re-birth Doroka & Dorothea, Adonic Magic Pen being stored in glass case, potraits of young Dorothea (aka Doroka), etc.

Time Travel (or Multiverse) is the only real point. Especially as to how it happen. Doroka/Dorothea didn't have this power. Maybe its her new servant (but then again Witches are all female, so how will he do it) or Adonis's spell (Maybe he learnt about the excessive affection & teleported her somewhere far. Adonis has no specific power restriction.)

Dec 5, 2023 2:55 PM

#71

Kays90

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I think this is going to become a duel of love spell between Doroka and the queen. One using it for peace and the other for war.
I wonder if Adonis will side with the queen, since she will probably allow him to continue killing at will.
Friendship and reason really don't seem to have a place in this show.

@Dan_ALves I doubt that Adonis will ever side with Queen.

So far its clear that Adonis is not a naive fool or a psychopath, just a deeply anguished soul filled with hatred who want revenge (as a justice).

The first person he'll kill is Dorothea (the witch who was responsible for witchhunt aka murder of Chloe).

He didn't let other witches go unpunished (by death) for Chloe's banishment & not trying their best to save Chloe and him when they needed it the most.

So, Dorothea will never escape his judgement.

Dec 6, 2023 4:45 AM

#72

Dan_ALves

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@Kays90 Ok, I haven´t thought about that, you´re right. At least you seem to be.

Dec 16, 2023 11:53 PM

#73

monstrousamigo

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It drops down my expectation, I was expecting some revenge anime like Redo of Healer, but this thing goes out of its concept and the animation at most of the time is terrible to look at,

Dec 18, 2023 9:50 PM

#74

WolfWood37

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So the main enemy is a witch with Doroka's power I guess? And more slaughter slaughter slaughter...

Dec 19, 2023 1:07 PM

#75

vitoralenkart

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Mano, como um episodio de anime mostra tão bem a contemporaneidade sem sequer falar sobre isso???!?!???! Muito bom o ep

Dec 21, 2023 1:43 AM

#76

removed-user

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It's ok, rip & tear episode

Jan 3, 2024 3:41 AM

#77

BetaMaleUltra

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Dropped this while it was airing, but idk kind of felt like coming back to it. I forgot how wild it could get. Now I wish I had more than just 6 episodes to watch lol

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Jan 11, 2024 10:06 AM

#78

whitebeartigtig

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A good amount of fighting, and a plot twist that I really wasn't expecting, that being the queen is a witch. That love spell is super powerful, and I have a feeling it's going to become a fight based around that now. Good show so far.

Mar 8, 2024 12:12 AM

#79

Adnash

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I don't know if this recap-like first two minutes and thirty seconds were necessary, but I'm glad we received a detailed explanation of the previous episode's last scene. Clever tactic, not gonna lie. Adonis is cunning and creative. I can't wait to see how will he get outta this grave danger he's about to face. Theta saw through his intrigue and decided to act immediately and without any half-measures.

Dorothea is pretty. Dangerous, intelligent and ruthless as well, hah. She orchestrated the whole witch genocide, and even made the emperor commit suicide, to take over the country and rule it by herself.

✨Saint Seiya Club🌠

Apr 19, 2024 5:32 AM

#80

Garrett_Dark

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It was obvious the queen was likely a witch, she had that veil on like she was a mystic or something, and looked hot with that body like the majority of the other witches. That's the first thing I thought when I first saw her, and other commenters predicted it as well. Anyways, what was even the point of the queen using a spell to make the king/emperor kill himself? Wasn't he already sick from the cell degeneration of the anti-magic device, and was very close to death anyways? Like he was coughing up blood, had a breather mask on, and IV drips attached to him. Wouldn't it had made more sense for the queen to just wait a little longer, after playing her charade for 10 years?! It's SO stupid.

And talking about stupid, if the science woman already knew the guy getting teleported back wasn't their guy, but the MC, then why did they even bother teleporting him back? And into their main command center also? Wouldn't it make more sense to teleport him into empty space? Or into a volcano? At least teleport him into a secure location, not your bloody command center. Or teleport more people over to the moon to confirm. So incredibly dumb.

And how come the MC is so OP even against witches? He's just a freaking apprentice, and he has to use his stupid wand thing. You'd think the witches would be able to just crush him instantly. So stupid I'm literally face palming right now with all the stupid.

May 5, 2024 9:34 AM

#81

Thyriad-oPPailov

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not much happened in this episode but I knew this queen is witch ;d

(づ￣ ³￣)づちゅっちゅっキス (´｡✪ω✪｡｀)

I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P

I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;)

Jun 4, 2024 4:06 PM

#82

nick_el_son

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Oh no, who have thought that the king was just the puppet of another witch... His wife looked 100% not suspicious with her face hidden under the cloth... I'm shocked!

Pathetic.

Apr 4, 5:39 PM

#83

ST63LTH

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yo wtf adonis really went hard on yamato and did the witches even dirtier. Episode was chaotic but enjoyed it

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