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Feb 4, 2020 12:47 PM
#41
keragamming said: Now on the real issue at hand a lot of persons are complaining that everyone is magically joining the squad like they weren't enemies. News flash the world is in imminent danger of being destroyed! The wall titans are already release and is about to turn this world upside down! Of course they would quickly agree to team up, what other choice do they have? Or did you think we needed to spend chapters on them trying to resolve their hatred for one another before they would team up? This would only make sense if the danger wasn't imminent. They have two choice stall and die or react. The problem here is, Eren is protecting paradise after all, and after he is done there will be no more enemies, hence no war, Eren is literally freeing paradise people, then why should our scouts be so quick to form an alliance with those who were there to kill them a few days before, after all, they are the ones who will be benefitting the most, also in chapter 124 Jean said all this like Eren did this all for us, world asked for this but then how fast he formed alliance with those who were responsible for their every loss this quickly, we as readers were so divided when Eren declared he will kill everyone outside, why there is no such division among characters, like conny saying, hey Eren is doing the right thing and I won't go against him. For Armin, it is understandable due to his pacifist ideology but for Levi, Hange, Connie, jean, Mikasa all to straight-up come together with enemies and possibly go against Eren and that too quick is the problem. For warriors, it makes sense since they definitely need help to stop Eren but there we see that those who need help still acting hostile, Magath being hostile to Levi and those who are losing nothing acting nice like Hange saying let's combine strength. |
Feb 4, 2020 12:53 PM
#42
Those two last pages were priceless. The crew was like "Not time to explain, get in the car. We're going to save the world" to Reiner. |
Feb 4, 2020 1:11 PM
#43
zerotitan said: keragamming said: Now on the real issue at hand a lot of persons are complaining that everyone is magically joining the squad like they weren't enemies. News flash the world is in imminent danger of being destroyed! The wall titans are already release and is about to turn this world upside down! Of course they would quickly agree to team up, what other choice do they have? Or did you think we needed to spend chapters on them trying to resolve their hatred for one another before they would team up? This would only make sense if the danger wasn't imminent. They have two choice stall and die or react. The problem here is, Eren is protecting paradise after all, and after he is done there will be no more enemies, hence no war, Eren is literally freeing paradise people, then why should our scouts be so quick to form an alliance with those who were there to kill them a few days before, after all, they are the ones who will be benefitting the most, also in chapter 124 Jean said all this like Eren did this all for us, world asked for this but then how fast he formed alliance with those who were responsible for their every loss this quickly, we as readers were so divided when Eren declared he will kill everyone outside, why there is no such division among characters, like conny saying, hey Eren is doing the right thing and I won't go against him. For Armin, it is understandable due to his pacifist ideology but for Levi, Hange, Connie, jean, Mikasa all to straight-up come together with enemies and possibly go against Eren and that too quick is the problem. For warriors, it makes sense since they definitely need help to stop Eren but there we see that those who need help still acting hostile, Magath being hostile to Levi and those who are losing nothing acting nice like Hange saying let's combine strength. The characters you mention are rational people that wouldn't want billions of people dying. Out of all the characters those characters I would say are the closest to call the "good guys" at the end of the day some persons would be for it while others against it and it seems a small minority is against it. |
Feb 4, 2020 1:18 PM
#44
keragamming said: zerotitan said: keragamming said: Now on the real issue at hand a lot of persons are complaining that everyone is magically joining the squad like they weren't enemies. News flash the world is in imminent danger of being destroyed! The wall titans are already release and is about to turn this world upside down! Of course they would quickly agree to team up, what other choice do they have? Or did you think we needed to spend chapters on them trying to resolve their hatred for one another before they would team up? This would only make sense if the danger wasn't imminent. They have two choice stall and die or react. The problem here is, Eren is protecting paradise after all, and after he is done there will be no more enemies, hence no war, Eren is literally freeing paradise people, then why should our scouts be so quick to form an alliance with those who were there to kill them a few days before, after all, they are the ones who will be benefitting the most, also in chapter 124 Jean said all this like Eren did this all for us, world asked for this but then how fast he formed alliance with those who were responsible for their every loss this quickly, we as readers were so divided when Eren declared he will kill everyone outside, why there is no such division among characters, like conny saying, hey Eren is doing the right thing and I won't go against him. For Armin, it is understandable due to his pacifist ideology but for Levi, Hange, Connie, jean, Mikasa all to straight-up come together with enemies and possibly go against Eren and that too quick is the problem. For warriors, it makes sense since they definitely need help to stop Eren but there we see that those who need help still acting hostile, Magath being hostile to Levi and those who are losing nothing acting nice like Hange saying let's combine strength. The characters you mention are rational people that wouldn't want billions of people dying. Out of all the characters those characters I would say are the closest to call the "good guys" at the end of the day some persons would be for it while others against it and it seems a small minority is against it. I agree with you on that, but Jean did say all those things, meaning he was in a dilemma over this, such a dilemma could have been shown for others and given a little more time and maybe their alliance formation could have been done in a more convincing way and not in a rushed way, my problem was how quickly things happened, them coming together was something people were speculating from previous chapter anyways. |
Feb 4, 2020 2:06 PM
#45
wow ok i just hope they dont kill eren |
DaBoi |
Feb 4, 2020 2:30 PM
#46
To be honest I didn't like this chapter as much. It felt too rushed, a little generic, predictable, and well, shounen like. Not that it was bad, just dissapointing, it's not something Isayama would do. It was kinda understandable giving the options tho. It just foreshadowed that AOT is gonna have a good ending, which isn't something many people would expect, unless Isayama surprises us as he always does, which I'm praying for... Well, even though it was slightly foreshadowed before that Reiner was going to be the hero of humanity, and to be honest, Reiner is GOAT. @Kilimini Agree |
FragMentizedFeb 4, 2020 2:38 PM
Today they say you're crazy, tomorrow they will say you're a genious. |
Feb 4, 2020 2:43 PM
#47
Lol @ Annie just sitting there, love it when Shingeki is random. Connie was fucking creepy. I mean look at this face Wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. And hell yeah, the squad is back(well almost) |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
Feb 4, 2020 2:51 PM
#48
plssss Isayama dont fuck up this masterpiece |
I don’t even know the real names of the two… no, three that I killed back then. I just closed my eyes, put my hands over my ears and tried to forget it all.” – Kirito MY ANIME LIST |
Feb 4, 2020 3:21 PM
#49
Feb 4, 2020 3:41 PM
#50
Was a decent chapter by Isayama, but not without it flaws. You get the feeling that this is the calm before the storm, and all the final pieces on the chessboard are being strategically set up for the final battle. The Hange / Levi panels at the beginning were really good and gave us some insight into their whereabouts in the immediate aftermath of the Zeke explosion. Levi's only concern right now is Zeke in order to finish him off, despite missing a couple of fingers and injuring half-his-face. However, he's not completely incapacitated and may actually contribute in some part to the final battle. I'm sure we'll get more exposition on the quid pro quo arrangement between Hange/Levi/Pieck and Magath over the next couple of chapters as I'm sure it takes more than just a "Let's Team Up" from Hange to get Marleyans to work together with Eldians on the island, but for now, I was quite happy with how that was done. The Connie/Armin narrative felt rushed and could have done with some more exploration. Emotions basically went from 0 to 100 within the space of a few panels with Armin pulling an Erwin, and putting all his eggs into one basket, banking on Connie saving him to force him to re-evaluate his principles as a soldier. I understand why it was done by Isayama, it just felt a little hollow because it wasn't fleshed out enough. Randomly bumping into Annie as they were talking about her was awfully convenient given number of people on the Island, and it's size. I doubt having Annie in their group was essential to their plan anyway, so it was probably just a nice addition. I'm sure we'll get a little more background over the next couple of chapters as to why she agreed to join their group. The interesting figure in the window, who could potentially be the mastermind behind the entire plan to get Yelena, Jean etc. to meet up, could be anyone at this point. Zeke? Shadis? In any case, unless Isayama provides us with a good explanation as to how this elaborate plan came to fruition, it'll all seem a bit too convenient. Was also interesting that Magath specifically wanted Yelena. Is this to prize information from her regarding Zeke and his euthanization plan or is there another reason why he needs her? At the moment, it looks like it's going down the LeLouch route with humanity being united faced by a common enemy in order to defeat it. Pixis also alluded to this in S1 of the anime. Even with the power of 5 titans, I still doubt the alliance has the ability to take down Eren in anycase, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. We still have to get Eren POV and Historia's POV is still unknown at this point. Rated this one 3/5. |
xenosysFeb 4, 2020 3:56 PM
Feb 4, 2020 3:48 PM
#51
* The best part of this naughty chapter was just the execution part, the parts Jean appeared in general, the plan was well built and well executed. But I was expecting at least Yelena or Oyonikapon. (Idk how to pronouce his name cause I'm not fluent in waka waka), it would have made this chapter more serious and interesting, since bro, no one died, is that even AOT? * The flashback scenes of Hanji and Levi were also good, showing Levi's desire, it was always clear. # Man, seriously, Annie was a joke here, I was expecting more of her. The scene where she meets with Armin was supossed to be epic, not out of comedy, dissapoiting asf. Not to mention how they rushed into the carts just too quickly without much explanations I guess. # I didn't like how Theo Magath just agreed to workout with them so easily, and so vice-versa with Hanji. I mean isn't Theo supposed to be the Erwin of Marley? # The final scene is an alive meme. |
Today they say you're crazy, tomorrow they will say you're a genious. |
Feb 4, 2020 4:16 PM
#52
Yeah pretty disappointing. Was hoping for WAY MORE with Annie reuniting with the rest of the characters. There was little to no interaction. It was basically like, “it’s annie! Okay let’s go get Eren”. It was very awkward and rushed. Hoping isayama dives into that way more next chapter. I could see them flashing back to the table scene and showing the conversations hopefully. Connies situation was also rushed and a bit confusing. He kind of quickly abandoned his mission to revive his mom. Could have added a few better character moments in there before he decided to change his mind. A sight mental breakdown would have been perfect. After losing Sasha and now failing to revive his mom, I was hoping for more. I really need Mikasa to have some internal monologue or something and really think about what she wants/needs to do. I’m expecting a big character moment for her by the end of the series. I’m excited for Eren to see Annie. |
Feb 4, 2020 4:29 PM
#53
I liked this chapter as much as I hated it ... Some pretty serious foreshadowing here and there (it's now almost 100% confirmed that Zeke will die, Levi has a promise to keep and he always won his fights against Zeke, there's no turning back now, and even with a hand incapacitated he could kill him pretty easily I guess). I liked the part with Connie / Falco and Armin... but it's getting more and more talk no jutsu and that's the part I'm worried the most about for future chapters... like some said I don't want it to be some "Acnologia" bullshit neither Code Geass... The ending was a big Nope for me (even if I smiled seeing them together like that...)... I just don't want this to end like a fucking Avenger movie where "the good guys just defeat the bad guy", because I don't even consider Zeke or Eren to be "bad" at this point, and don't want more casualties... but oh well, it's SNK we're talking about, if half of the cast is not dead by the end I would be pretty displeased as well... Isayama, what have you done to my brain ? |
Feb 4, 2020 5:55 PM
#54
Eldia and Marley determined to wipe out each other MADD mutually assured destruction |
Feb 4, 2020 6:56 PM
#55
I really dont like how they just let bygones be bygones with Annie and Reiner so easily. "I know you guys have tried to kill us and enact genocide of our people, but do you wanna team up?" "Ok". *pose for group panel shot like we've been friends all this time* |
Feb 4, 2020 7:36 PM
#56
Really good chapter, im loving the dialogue. As this series comes to an end I will treasure as much of the last few chapters that come to be. No matter how the chapters are structured, action packed or just straight up conversation based. Honestly in end game the more dialogue the better. |
Feb 4, 2020 8:03 PM
#57
yeah just like everyone said, this chapter felt rushed and weak. there was no conversation between Annie and the scouts after 4 years and suddenly she is on the wagon with everyone. Then how did jean and everyone teamed up with pieck? iirc those 2 didnt even had a screentime to planning something... also im curious who is this? well shouldnt lose hope just from 1 chapter though, i believe Isayama has a nice twist on his mind |
Feb 4, 2020 8:58 PM
#60
maybe its Zeke he is the only one missing right now besides Historia |
Feb 4, 2020 9:06 PM
#61
No idea, wonder if Isayama goes back to this or if this is just stating the obvious that random people were watching them at the time. |
Feb 4, 2020 11:18 PM
#62
I'm glad to see these subplots out of the way, I expected a better scene to reintroduce Annie with the 104th, also can I say the last line was really cheesy? "We have to go." would've been a much better line to put at the end and let the realization dawn on what they're trying to do. Also how do they plan to put an end to the world? |
Feb 4, 2020 11:21 PM
#63
ABDoesThings said: I'm glad to see these subplots out of the way, I expected a better scene to reintroduce Annie with the 104th, also can I say the last line was really cheesy? "We have to go." would've been a much better line to put at the end and let the realization dawn on what they're trying to do. Also how do they plan to put an end to the world? Put an end to the world? More like save the world that is. |
Feb 4, 2020 11:46 PM
#64
I think everyone just needs to calm down a little bit and wait and see how things go. This chapter definitely feels somewhat rushed compared to the last one’s we have gotten. But people are forgetting that this is AoT. People also seem to be forgetting that Grisha and Eren did saw the “horrible thing” he did in the future. So I wouldn’t be to quick to call it a wrap on this one. Besides, there is nothing they can do to stop Eren. Isayama is probably going to crush their hopes and dreams in the next chapter. It’s not a bad chapter, we just need more context. |
Gid0Feb 5, 2020 12:04 AM
Feb 5, 2020 1:27 AM
#65
C’mon Isayama, you had done so well up until now, why even rush? Probably most disappointing chapter ever |
Feb 5, 2020 1:32 AM
#66
8/10 chapter. The last 5-6 months have really felt like a huge set up for the finale which I imagine will be in summer if season 4 starts in October. Hitch's letter to Annie was definitely the highlight. Not much meme material for the past 2-3 chapters which saddens me because I can't shitpost lol Not sure why so many people are shitting on it and complaining. |
Marinate1016Feb 5, 2020 1:36 AM
Feb 5, 2020 2:42 AM
#68
Feb 5, 2020 3:02 AM
#69
xenosys said: Was also interesting that Magath specifically wanted Yelena. Is this to prize information from her regarding Zeke and his euthanization plan or is there another reason why he needs her? I remember Pieck mentioning she had a personal interest in Yelena. Maybe Magath was just covering for Pieck. |
Feb 5, 2020 3:31 AM
#70
No, I still cannot accept Gabi, I just cannot forgive her no matter what. |
Feb 5, 2020 4:19 AM
#71
Damn. It would be so disappointing if it ended on a cliche with eren just dying to save everyone else. That would be so shit tbh. |
Feb 5, 2020 5:16 AM
#72
Please don't make Eren the bad guy... |
Feb 5, 2020 5:45 AM
#73
Damn!! This chapter was so intense!! So now it's Eren against the whole world, literally. |
Feb 5, 2020 6:46 AM
#74
it'll be code geass all over again |
Feb 5, 2020 7:19 AM
#75
Annie's face when she was eating that pie XD. Well, it's time to save the world. |
Feb 5, 2020 7:42 AM
#76
Im extremely disappointed with this chapter and my day is ruined. Eren is doing a right thing. Everyone almost unanimously, at least when counting main characters, is against him. But what other choice did he have? Rest of the world enslaved Eldians on the continent and wanted to genocide them on the island. Why they are now forgetting all that? It's really ridiculous and unplausible how easily they turned against their own nation and Eren for the sake of wrongly understood human rights. After so long war, after being eaten alive and hunted they finally retaliate to protect themselves from genocide and yet all main characters are against that? Doesn't make sense at all. You would need to be really a pacifist snowflake to not agree with Eren right now. Eren did nothing wrong - he is protecting his kind from planned genocide. I'ts not nice, I would love for it to be avoided but they gave him no other option. Our characters, in real life, would strongly feel only for their own. Caring so much about fate of the rest of the world is unplausible even among modern humans not to mention battle hardened guys from Paradise who mercilessly fought for survival whole life. Remember all fallen comrades? Is this for what they gave their hearts? For main characters to now just side with their killers without blinking an eye? Really disappoining turn of the events. |
Feb 5, 2020 8:27 AM
#77
Who was the girl again that had Mikasa's scarf ? |
Feb 5, 2020 8:59 AM
#78
Andrzej2 said: Im extremely disappointed with this chapter and my day is ruined. Eren is doing a right thing. Everyone almost unanimously, at least when counting main characters, is against him. But what other choice did he have? Rest of the world enslaved Eldians on the continent and wanted to genocide them on the island. Why they are now forgetting all that? It's really ridiculous and unplausible how easily they turned against their own nation and Eren for the sake of wrongly understood human rights. After so long war, after being eaten alive and hunted they finally retaliate to protect themselves from genocide and yet all main characters are against that? Doesn't make sense at all. You would need to be really a pacifist snowflake to not agree with Eren right now. Eren did nothing wrong - he is protecting his kind from planned genocide. I'ts not nice, I would love for it to be avoided but they gave him no other option. Our characters, in real life, would strongly feel only for their own. Caring so much about fate of the rest of the world is unplausible even among modern humans not to mention battle hardened guys from Paradise who mercilessly fought for survival whole life. Remember all fallen comrades? Is this for what they gave their hearts? For main characters to now just side with their killers without blinking an eye? Really disappoining turn of the events. I agree whit everything you just said. I swear if the ending isn't either Eren destroying the world or that "Hero" team winning somehow but still getting the Eldians getting exterminate by the others nations because these "heroes" got the only one fighting for them killed... Ok I wouldn't be able to do much but I would still be really really pissed. Edit: More like I hope Eren destroy the world but if they stop him I hope the eldians will be exterminate just after that the ones who stopped Eren get to understand why he was doing what he was doing. Because of course the others nation won't just get all friendly whit the eldians because Eren was stopped |
DieuMivasFeb 5, 2020 9:04 AM
Feb 5, 2020 9:10 AM
#79
terrible this chapter destroys everything, is very bad and has turned into annoying rubbish crap, the main character seems to forget all the cruelty that marley has done to the paradis, all the deaths of the paradis become a futile sacrifice, the idea of working with the enemy is idiots that only exist in the world of Naruto, I can guess the ending "finally Eren was stopped and killed by his own friend, then the world immediately joined in killing all the remaining eldia, so Eldia was destroyed, after they became heroes and saved the world from eren" good work Ishiyama before you said that the ending AOT would be dramatic |
Feb 5, 2020 9:44 AM
#80
BlueSnow93 said: Who was the girl again that had Mikasa's scarf ? Louise, that little girl Mikasa saved back in Trost district, also that Yeagerist who had been locked in prison |
Feb 5, 2020 9:50 AM
#81
Raphchannnn said: terrible this chapter destroys everything, is very bad and has turned into annoying rubbish crap, the main character seems to forget all the cruelty that marley has done to the paradis, all the deaths of the paradis become a futile sacrifice, the idea of working with the enemy is idiots that only exist in the world of Naruto, I can guess the ending "finally Eren was stopped and killed by his own friend, then the world immediately joined in killing all the remaining eldia, so Eldia was destroyed, after they became heroes and saved the world from eren" good work Ishiyama before you said that the ending AOT would be dramatic Calm down my friend, I agree this chapter was not good, but we can at least wait till the end, you don't have Eren's power to see in the future so you can't be sure. From Isayama's interviews, we already have the idea that the ending is going to be bittersweet. Our hero's killing Eren's is highly unlikely because Eren is god right now. Isayama has delivered again and again and having some faith in him would not do any harm, right? Snk is known for its epic twists so we can wait for yet another epic twist. |
Feb 5, 2020 9:52 AM
#82
The chapter was ok then I liked it then I hated it I don’t like how Eren is the bad guy now 😤 |
Feb 5, 2020 9:58 AM
#83
lavah said: BlueSnow93 said: Who was the girl again that had Mikasa's scarf ? Louise, that little girl Mikasa saved back in Trost district, also that Yeagerist who had been locked in prison Oh, ok. Thank you. |
Feb 5, 2020 10:28 AM
#84
The chapter was good, though as it has been pointed out, that alliance was a bit rushed and sudden. I don't like that reaction to seeing Annie, it felt out of place. Also, I felt bad for Armin when he was gonna throw himself. |
Feb 5, 2020 10:42 AM
#85
Shadzzo said: >Connie - let's go. >Reiner - where? >Connie - to possibly kill a guy (eren) who always saved us (paradise) from genocide multiple times,and is still trying to protect us (paradise) from an incoming global invasion which would have killed our entire population, if it was not for eren. >And for achieving that,we the survey cops want the help of you warriors, who were just trying to destroy our country just a day ago. 10/10 writing. We are Naruto now Exactly when did Eren save them for genocide before. There has never been a scale invasion before. And in all of the previous instances other survey corps members served better in the fight than him. BUT It was the survey corps. Hundreds and hundreds of them, who died saving his kidnapped ass every fucking time. Armin's releasing the colossal titans of only shiganshina to destroy the marley military was a more logical solution. I know Eren feels helpness but THIS is mass genocide. This is even more ridicules than Thanos's plan. I see so many people wanting Eren to win. And I understand that. But this is the entire world we are talking about. There are countries that don't care and even give a fuck about Paradis. Minding their own business. Of course they would oppose this. And boom. DEAD. Onyankapon makes better sense here. |
AckermanmlFeb 5, 2020 10:56 AM
Feb 5, 2020 11:15 AM
#86
Well, that all went really smooth. The pie part was genuinely funny. |
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Feb 5, 2020 12:06 PM
#87
Finally, a chapter i appreciated and for a good reason : Levi's back. Ok, he's not ready to make a marathon but he's still pissed off. To see them all gave me nostalgia. Still feel confused by who is who, who did what... *Sigh* |
Feb 5, 2020 12:09 PM
#88
Hanji asking the important questions lol.......does Pieck brush her teeth in titan form? At this point I don't expect anything though..just let Levi kill Zeke. Eren will probably get friendship talked anyway. |
Feb 5, 2020 1:19 PM
#89
Shadzzo said: >Connie - let's go. >Reiner - where? >Connie - to possibly kill a guy (eren) who always saved us (paradise) from genocide multiple times,and is still trying to protect us (paradise) from an incoming global invasion which would have killed our entire population, if it was not for eren. >And for achieving that,we the survey cops want the help of you warriors, who were just trying to destroy our country just a day ago. 10/10 writing. We are Naruto now That roughly explains how I feel. I love this manga, been reading it from the start, but the story began to suffer once we hit Marley. That's my own personal opinion and don't expect people or share it. I hope for redemption once Historia opens up. She and Eren must know something the others don't. |
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