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Jun 1, 2014 11:35 PM

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MorteTorment said:
Wow, just...

Ok, let me make sure that I understand what I just saw(and yes, I am asking this.)

Aruka killed Karen's husband in the past, with him just being another job for her, with Karen realizing that it'd be pointless to take revenge against her because she was an emotionless assassin who wouldn't care if she died.

But over time Aruka has regained more of her humanity and therefore has become vulnerable emotionally, leading to her considering herself to be less than nothing. Then she gets pressured into taking another job, and it turns out to be a setup from Karen, who now just wants to hurt Aruka emotionally as vengeance

Is that correct?

yes.

MorteTorment said:
Tendou-kun said:
Karen went from the cool lady to a litlle bit yandere D:


Isn't a yandere more like the ultimate nightmare of a stalker girlfriend?

He gets that vibe from Karen cutting off some part of her husband's body and keeping it inside a box. I keep lol'ing at the speculation that it's his dick. -.-
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Jun 2, 2014 5:36 AM

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Woah, Karen had a dark side. Well, it was sort of implied before. How the heck would she become boss of that establishment otherwise, eh?

Alka getting her arse handed to her, finding someone somewhat important and then losing her. Seems like a set formula for each episode, no?

Wonder what will happen next. And will Karen ever forgive her after taking her out like that this episode?
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Jun 2, 2014 7:14 AM

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5/5

Episode very enjoyable and the incredible implications.
Plot from a nice clean slate to the past and sheds new revelations, I knew that Karen was not the goody-goody who wanted to look like!
Narrative that has left me a reason to end the series.
I'd love to take that Alka to kick ass Karen.
For now, though disappointing the previous part, this anime is much better than many series transposed from RPG but then as others. Hacks!
Jun 4, 2014 4:27 AM

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I've made it this far, only a few episodes left, but I find myself asking if it would even be worth it to watch the last few. The Jin Varrel fight in the last episode was atrocious, and now we get this episode with Karen turning out to be an idiot... err I mean "villain".

Her reason for revenge is stupid. Her plot to kill a character no one has ever seen before in order to hurt Alka is predictable and pointless. Wouldn't it make more sense to go after whoever hired Alka to kill the husband that apparently falls in love with the first bitch that shows kindness to him? "I just met you like 20 seconds ago as I was dying in the street, but I'm in love you" That's just rushed crap writing.

And in a small clip in this episode we see that Jin might still be alive, but with so few episodes left and this Karen thing stretching to yet another episode I don't see how it will matter.

So, I return to my original statement. I've stuck it out this long, but after the trip down the spiral that this has taken in the last couple episodes I find myself wondering if it's worth sticking with it for the last few episodes.

This is more rhetorical than anything, just getting it out of my system. Maybe I'll pick it back up after it's over if someone can convince me the last few episodes were worth it.

Done & Dropped
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Jun 4, 2014 5:16 PM

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In a weird way i like Karen as a character/villain :3 ... no hate ...
But would love to see a fight between them .
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Jun 4, 2014 8:44 PM

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So Alka killed Karen's husband huh? Definitely did not expect that. But still, Karen is such a bitch, how dare she kill Miharu. And to think I actually liked her...
Jun 5, 2014 8:55 PM

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Karen as a villian. Guessed it early on.
Jun 6, 2014 1:29 AM

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I'm fine with revenge and all, but go after Karen directly, now others that have nothing to do with it.

Now the feels train starts huh?
Jun 6, 2014 8:20 AM

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J053PH said:
So Alka killed Karen's husband huh? Definitely did not expect that. But still, Karen is such a bitch, how dare she kill Miharu. And to think I actually liked her...
I feel ya bro

Jun 6, 2014 9:22 AM
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Wow, that was tragic, though Miharu's mom forgives Alka, the dad hasn't and in his foolish attempt to snipe Alka he instead kills his wife and eventually himself, nice to see Jin alive again so I'm guess from ep 10 to 12 is gonna be Jin revive and Jin vs Alka again.
Jun 6, 2014 12:44 PM

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WOW
I new something was strange about her
and i thought we were going to have a little yuri action T-T
that ending didn't like it at first it has def grown on me
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Jun 6, 2014 7:41 PM
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This show officially sucks balls.

Karen is so much more awesome in the NCSoft Computer Game. She, her boyfriend, and Alka's master are part of a top league of badass fighters who defeated the Impurity a generation ago. In the original story, Karen actually saves Jin Varrel's life as a child and trains her even though she has some of the Impurity within her. That turns out to be a big mistake obviously. Karen was Jin Varrel's freaking master. Jin Varrel's sword is actually Karen's before she gave up being a fighter! Thus is the badass truth a person finds out in the world of Blade and Soul after hours and hours and hours of playing the game. But in this show, Karen indulges in petty revenge over some dude? This makes me so angry. I'm beginning to think they should just remake the entire series.
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Jun 6, 2014 7:52 PM
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The_Bif said:
I've made it this far, only a few episodes left, but I find myself asking if it would even be worth it to watch the last few. The Jin Varrel fight in the last episode was atrocious, and now we get this episode with Karen turning out to be an idiot... err I mean "villain".

Her reason for revenge is stupid. Her plot to kill a character no one has ever seen before in order to hurt Alka is predictable and pointless. Wouldn't it make more sense to go after whoever hired Alka to kill the husband that apparently falls in love with the first bitch that shows kindness to him? "I just met you like 20 seconds ago as I was dying in the street, but I'm in love you" That's just rushed crap writing.

And in a small clip in this episode we see that Jin might still be alive, but with so few episodes left and this Karen thing stretching to yet another episode I don't see how it will matter.

So, I return to my original statement. I've stuck it out this long, but after the trip down the spiral that this has taken in the last couple episodes I find myself wondering if it's worth sticking with it for the last few episodes.

This is more rhetorical than anything, just getting it out of my system. Maybe I'll pick it back up after it's over if someone can convince me the last few episodes were worth it.

Done & Dropped


Everything you said is so true. I really wish they had just followed the original story for the computer game. It's actually a hundred times better and simpler.
Jun 6, 2014 8:06 PM

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I did not see that coming, I knew Karin had a secret but I would never guess she would turn into a evil lady that would do anything to hurt Aruka...the anime is not so good, but it's almost over so I won't drop it, it's so--so...
Jun 7, 2014 11:01 PM

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Just went from ok, to wtf crap, well pause and barethis anime to the end. Its not surprising really but the why did did it...smh.
Jun 15, 2014 6:27 AM

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That's the real love shit right there.

edit;

She has such a pretty eyes.

https://i.imgur.com/wN6l3fe.jpg
KarhuJun 15, 2014 6:32 AM
I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls.
Jun 18, 2014 9:48 AM

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chicapees said:
This show officially sucks balls.

Karen is so much more awesome in the NCSoft Computer Game. She, her boyfriend, and Alka's master are part of a top league of badass fighters who defeated the Impurity a generation ago. In the original story, Karen actually saves Jin Varrel's life as a child and trains her even though she has some of the Impurity within her. That turns out to be a big mistake obviously. Karen was Jin Varrel's freaking master. Jin Varrel's sword is actually Karen's before she gave up being a fighter! Thus is the badass truth a person finds out in the world of Blade and Soul after hours and hours and hours of playing the game. But in this show, Karen indulges in petty revenge over some dude? This makes me so angry. I'm beginning to think they should just remake the entire series.


Really, that's interesting! Could you say more about what happened in the game please? What is actually Jin Varrel's role in the flower monks? It seems like she is getting manipulated by Ran Yu. I saw in a game cutscene on youtube that she(Ran Yu) turned into some kind of spider monster. Also if Alka's master was so strong how did he get easily defeated?
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Jun 20, 2014 4:27 PM

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that boy at the beginning slinked out like he just got raped

explains Karen odd infatuation Aruka, I though it was them been mum n daughter
Jun 21, 2014 7:31 PM

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I guess this "rainbow after the rain" is Karen's. Is Karyn keeping her deceased lover's penis in that box?

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Jun 27, 2014 1:06 PM
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wtf
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Jul 5, 2014 9:21 AM

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This show is so strange. Its like a train on rubber tires. The story is way off track to the point Im not sure there was supposed to be a main plot to begin with. However, somehow it is still able to keep going and be entertaining. This turn towards Karen's revenge is quite interesting; she was my favorite character to start with.
Aug 12, 2014 8:10 AM

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Now this a interesting turn.
But I wish Alka would stop grunting and sighing..
Sep 12, 2014 6:40 AM

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This episode was interesting and a lot better than what we got lately from this show.
Oct 13, 2014 10:43 AM

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Whoa!
Nov 27, 2014 4:19 PM
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Am I the only one who did not like this episode? Cause I'm completely put off by Alka's sudden discovery of emotions, it came out of nowhere.
Nov 29, 2014 5:29 PM

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Average episode and action... let's see what's next.
Jan 26, 2016 11:55 PM

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This is so god awful it hurts, it hurts so much.....


"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment"
Mar 12, 2016 12:38 PM

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I'm missing emotionless Alka already. She needs to buy more soulshields, her mental defense is down.

After watching this episode, i think a fan class would be nice for yuns.
Jun 1, 2016 5:18 AM
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All I can say is "damn".

I knew that Karen was a badass from when she killed that dude about the flowers that one time and she tends to demonstrate some badassery with Hazuki crazy-ass in her...bar?..host place?...hotel?...inn! I think it's an inn.

But dang, I would have never expected her to be a little on the crazy side. Poor Alka.

Also, Ga Ganta carrying Jin Varrel is kinda weird since I thought Yu Ran wanted her dead from that one episode where it's discovered she may be spying.

I actually quite like this series so far, slow start but sheet get real in this ep
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Jul 18, 2016 7:21 PM

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Finally some really good action even if the whole thing about Karen was telegraphed from far away.
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So, Alka killed Karen's lover because it's her job and Karen murdered Miharu for revenge. Nice.
Feb 15, 2023 9:05 AM

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Karen’s flashback is very interesting! This is the best episode so far!
Dec 22, 2023 9:40 AM
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Half the episode was confusing as heck, the other half was just ugly. The true villain has finally come out to play and apparently she's a creep. You don't keep remains of lovers (unless they're cremated). Then she kills a worker because... ??? And she wants to torture MC. Well she is the villain after all. Through nine episodes, my rating is 5.55/10. If the series ended here, I'd probably round down to 5/10. To think it was once above 8/10.
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