Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Jun 26, 2016 3:12 PM
#301
All in all I don't know what to feel with this episode. Sure it was better than the last only for it concluding with Subaru paying a mild price for his insolence. But overall it just gets more and more awkward as we go on. The tactlessness of the candidates once again begs me to ask; why them? Loli sounds like a penny pincher. Red dress in largely concerned with being spoiled. ...Wait *re-watches green-haired girls "speech"* I'm so lost on parts of "the dragon" I don't even understand the significance of the "dragon's covenant". But compared to the "bitch in the red dress" and the smallest one it seems to be a legitimate concern. And Emilia's wish sounds reasonable and consistent with the "pure" act. Felt sounds like she's raring for a "revolution" or something. Pretty much sold on the green haired election wise, taking into account Emilia's shady AF appearance. But I guess they really have confidence in the emblem's indication. Strangely enough Subaru's outburst was kinda reasonable but the lead up to it tattered it. The that knight was pretty much spot on. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:13 PM
#302
I'm not sure what to think about this episode tbh. I think I would've liked to see Al's scene or something, considering how much everyone is going on about it. I really hope they keep adapting it well though, from what everyone was saying they were doing a good job of it up till now. That ending scene was good though. I wonder if Subaru really is selfish, or is trying to do this all for Emilia. I don't think we actually know enough about him - Other than HOLY FUCK HE CAN BE STUPID |
Jun 26, 2016 3:13 PM
#303
Tevens said: Fai said: AvidAnimeViewer said: To be fair I think Subaru could use some time away from Emilia. All he's done is follow her around and try to help her. He hasn't even bothered to try figuring out why he was sent to this world or how to remove the curse. It's great how much he cares for her, but he needs to start making some headway on solving his own problems. How many times will he have to experience the horribleness of the curse before he gets on trying to permanetly save himself? One of my highest hopes is that this all ends with him realizing his obsession around her is toxic and unhealthy and has him move on from her. Alas he will most likely just be gifted a second chance from her instead :/ Tevens said: when the studio/author gives you a realistic character, you all dislike it and talk shit about the character. and when the studio/author gives you a flawless character, you all dislike it and talk shit about it like what happen with Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei or Sword Art online. what the fuck do you all want god dammit ?! Subaru WAS realistic up till this point. He is absolutely not in these last two episodes because it clashes with rest of his characterization. Its not problem of character being real and flawed. Its problem of characterization being unclear and incoherent. the characterization already cleared. it's in the second arc and it still continues to the third arc. for the reason why he did all of that is in the end of the episode. Subaru's Character- Weak, Cannot fight, Revives and travels back in time, Likes Emilia from another timeline, Likes kids, gets angry really easily. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:14 PM
#304
Lol what is with the forced drama in this episode, I know they want to make a strong emotional appeal to the audience but the way it was done felt so unnatural. Anyways, Felt best girl! |
Jun 26, 2016 3:15 PM
#305
Everyone saying that the last scene was great, and I'm here totally hating it xD I really love the anime, but I couldn't get myself to like this episode. Probably because I don't like when two characters I want to have in a good relationship fight. And because Subaru was really cringy this episode. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:17 PM
#306
I feel Subaru illustrated pretty well the old proverb: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" ... So now he is in a hell of his own making. Poor fool. |
"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" Friedrich Schiller |
Jun 26, 2016 3:17 PM
#307
Idiotproofninja said: stone616 said: Deep down Subaru is a despicable person. He's not the type that helps people because he wants to help them. He's the type that helps others for himself. He does it to feel important and when reality informs him that he really isn't important he throws an embarrassing tantrum about it. Emilia thought he was her friend. In reality he only cares about her to the extent to prop himself up on her. His deeds to "help" her are nothing more than some sick egotistical masturbation for him. It's one thing to help others because it makes you feel good. It's an entirely different thing to help others because it makes you feel good then demand they acknowledge they need you and have them shower you with praise and status for your deeds. In other words your actual helping them doesn't make you feel good at all. your sense of entitlement and importance to them because you helped them coupled with the debt you feel they owe to you is what makes you feel good. The feel good after effect is the reason a lot of people donate to charity. His crush on Emilia just doesn't make sense. He likes Emilia from another timeline, for doing something rather trivial (I say this because he can settle that situation if he dies and gathers knowledge). Emilia does nothing for most of the show besides existing. He just needs to find another job besides bootlicking and actually learn how to kick some ass even if he has to die a couple of times. It's ok to help others to make yourself feel good. This guy isn't that sort. He helps others and wants the world to prop him up for it. She's important and he's not but he clearly wants to use the fact that he helped her to place himself into a status that doesn't belong to him. I question if he even really likes her. He's just a loser that happened into meeting a hot girl. He put on a fake persona to get her to be into him and she's a trophy to him. When he was screaming at her in the bed about her never being able to repay her debt to him that's who he really is. He's an insignificant powerless fool who wants to be important and matter. He found a way to capture those feelings but his curse won't even let him talk or brag about it. It's a good thing too because if he could talk about how he's died over and over to create an ideal timeline and hold that over their heads he'd be even more despicable than he already is. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:17 PM
#308
The_Cube5671 said: I'm not sure what to think about this episode tbh. I think I would've liked to see Al's scene or something, considering how much everyone is going on about it. I really hope they keep adapting it well though, from what everyone was saying they were doing a good job of it up till now. That ending scene was good though. I wonder if Subaru really is selfish, or is trying to do this all for Emilia. I don't think we actually know enough about him - Other than HOLY FUCK HE CAN BE STUPID Being an idiot is part of his character, it takes him many deaths to figure out very very basic things. That's why he has the built-in RPG autosave cheat. stone616 said: Idiotproofninja said: stone616 said: Deep down Subaru is a despicable person. He's not the type that helps people because he wants to help them. He's the type that helps others for himself. He does it to feel important and when reality informs him that he really isn't important he throws an embarrassing tantrum about it. Emilia thought he was her friend. In reality he only cares about her to the extent to prop himself up on her. His deeds to "help" her are nothing more than some sick egotistical masturbation for him. It's one thing to help others because it makes you feel good. It's an entirely different thing to help others because it makes you feel good then demand they acknowledge they need you and have them shower you with praise and status for your deeds. In other words your actual helping them doesn't make you feel good at all. your sense of entitlement and importance to them because you helped them coupled with the debt you feel they owe to you is what makes you feel good. The feel good after effect is the reason a lot of people donate to charity. His crush on Emilia just doesn't make sense. He likes Emilia from another timeline, for doing something rather trivial (I say this because he can settle that situation if he dies and gathers knowledge). Emilia does nothing for most of the show besides existing. He just needs to find another job besides bootlicking and actually learn how to kick some ass even if he has to die a couple of times. It's ok to help others to make yourself feel good. This guy isn't that sort. He helps others and wants the world to prop him up for it. She's important and he's not but he clearly wants to use the fact that he helped her to place himself into a status that doesn't belong to him. I question if he even really likes her. He's just a loser that happened into meeting a hot girl. He put on a fake persona to get her to be into him and she's a trophy to him. When he was screaming at her in the bed about her never being able to repay her debt to him that's who he really is. He's an insignificant powerless fool who wants to be important and matter. He found a way to capture those feelings but his curse won't even let him talk or brag about it. It's a good thing too because if he could talk about how he's died over and over to create an ideal timeline and hold that over their heads he'd be even more despicable than he already is. Well that might just be true, he technically like Emilia from another timeline that doesn't exist because she's not the 'same' person that saved him. It's not like she has amnesia and cannot remember she saved him. She never saved him in this timeline. He wants to be the Hero ...For some reason, that's why he's doing all this stupid shit getting himself involved in things that he shouldn't get involved .Like I said he needs to use his power and actually gain knowledge and strength then be a hero. Not the other way around. |
IdiotproofninjaJun 26, 2016 3:21 PM
Jun 26, 2016 3:20 PM
#309
I Rarely comment on forums but If this is not the most overrated anime the last 4-5 years. I HONESTLY dont know which it is. Plots holes everyhwere, 0 explanation. and propably the most dumb and annoying MC ever. At this point it is like the writer has made the MC so fucking stupid so he can serve his plot whenever and however he wants.I Honestly try to find something apealling(since so many like it) and apart from the first 2 episodes that were QUITE interesting and set a plot and a direction.SInce then the anime and the story is all over the place. He fucking dies every couple of days and his constant issue is how he will help EMilia(after ofc pouring those mmorpg jokes) instead of trying to figure what is going on and also give us a hint about what the fuck is going on in generall we are in the 13th episode. Maybe bother and spent some time on your curse, MAYBE? I am done srsly |
Jun 26, 2016 3:21 PM
#310
Tevens said: when the studio/author gives you a realistic character, you all dislike it and talk shit about the character. and when the studio/author gives you a flawless character, you all dislike it and talk shit about it like what happen with Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei or Sword Art online. what the fuck do you all want god dammit ?! Subaru used to be realistic. Up until the beginning of ep.12 This Ep it would've been fine if he didn't go full ''I am a knight'' and then badmouth them all. And if he didn't go full ''YOU OWE ME'' to EMF. She owes him nothing. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:22 PM
#311
Wow, I found this episode to be amazing. I know a lot of people hate how Subaru acted this episode but I found it refreshing. It's refreshing to see the protagonist mimic real life emotions rather than the typical anime protagonist emotions. We have to remember all the times Subaru has died and all that pain and memories built up from each instance. With no one able to remember each failed attempt and not being able to tell anybody, a person would surely go insane. I find Subaru's mental breakdown to be similar to that of the time he tried to overwork himself in the mansion. Where he was trying so hard to be perfect but realizes he just needs to be himself. I'm sure he'll bounce back from this and return even stronger. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:24 PM
#312
Subxaero said: I Rarely comment on forums but If this is not the most overrated anime the last 4-5 years. I HONESTLY dont know which it is. Plots holes everyhwere, 0 explanation. and propably the most dumb and annoying MC ever. At this point it is like the writer has made the MC so fucking stupid so he can serve his plot whenever and however he wants.I Honestly try to find something apealling(since so many like it) and apart from the first 2 episodes that were QUITE interesting and set a plot and a direction.SInce then the anime and the story is all over the place. He fucking dies every couple of days and his constant issue is how he will help EMilia(after ofc pouring those mmorpg jokes) instead of trying to figure what is going on and also give us a hint about what the fuck is going on in generall we are in the 13th episode. Maybe bother and spent some time on your curse, MAYBE? I am done srsly His entire character is EMILIA>EVERYTHING ON THE PLANET cause she saved me once from weak robbers that I could easily figure out how to beat by dying and trying again. Shrimperor said: Tevens said: when the studio/author gives you a realistic character, you all dislike it and talk shit about the character. and when the studio/author gives you a flawless character, you all dislike it and talk shit about it like what happen with Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei or Sword Art online. what the fuck do you all want god dammit ?! Subaru used to be realistic. Up until the beginning of last ep. Technically he was never realistic, he has a crush on a version of Emilia from another timeline. This girl from this timeline never saved him. He likes to do stupid shit for people and get himself into weird situations even though he's weaksauce. This episode just proves he can be cringey while trying to impress a girl and failing cause he's weaksauce. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:25 PM
#313
Idiotproofninja said: The_Cube5671 said: I'm not sure what to think about this episode tbh. I think I would've liked to see Al's scene or something, considering how much everyone is going on about it. I really hope they keep adapting it well though, from what everyone was saying they were doing a good job of it up till now. That ending scene was good though. I wonder if Subaru really is selfish, or is trying to do this all for Emilia. I don't think we actually know enough about him - Other than HOLY FUCK HE CAN BE STUPID Being an idiot is part of his character, it takes him many deaths to figure out very very basic things. That's why he has the built-in RPG autosave cheat Anyone from our world would've died, in his place. That's why it's unadvisable to be there. Seek a peaceful life, if you wanna survive. Or not, but have the cheat ready. |
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Jun 26, 2016 3:26 PM
#314
when subaru embarrassed himself in front of the whole council, he embarrassed emilia too. the fact that he wasn't even aware of that and kept going is proof that he is just doing this for himself at this point. it was even more obvious when he couldn't back down from julius that he was only trying to feed his ego. honestly subaru deserved what he got. if emilia didn't put her foot down now it'd only encourage subaru to act out even more. and to everyone who thinks emilia should've been able to see his sincerity: think about how YOU would feel of you were in her position -- you're a part of a heavily prejudiced race, you're also a candidate for ruler (aka. big target for assassins), then this stranger comes out of nowhere and forcibly inserts himself into your life doing all these self sacrificing things for you for no discernible reason. he seems nice, but you literally don't know anything about him at all (and it doesn't help that he doesn't seem to want to answer when you ask). then you tell him to do ONE THING (stay home), but he disobeys you immediately to do whatever he wants. honestly i'd be super unnerved, i'd think he was undependable and unpredictable, and possibly a huge liability down the road, if not straight-out turn traitor. so kudos to emilia for doing what anyone in her position with half a brain would do and cut off ties completely. don't get me wrong, i like subaru in general, and since the story's told from his point of view i totally understand his motivations, but his actions this ep was thoroughly disgusting, so i'm glad he experienced the consequences. |
lin000Jun 26, 2016 3:40 PM
Jun 26, 2016 3:28 PM
#315
I'm truly impressed by the characterization is this show! Also we need Emilia back story asap! I just can't shake the feeling between her and this witch Satella. Also it seems they went a bit off script from the manga but nothing game breaking.. still would've been nice to see Emilia and Puck put that council in their place |
Jun 26, 2016 3:28 PM
#316
iRels said: Idiotproofninja said: The_Cube5671 said: I'm not sure what to think about this episode tbh. I think I would've liked to see Al's scene or something, considering how much everyone is going on about it. I really hope they keep adapting it well though, from what everyone was saying they were doing a good job of it up till now. That ending scene was good though. I wonder if Subaru really is selfish, or is trying to do this all for Emilia. I don't think we actually know enough about him - Other than HOLY FUCK HE CAN BE STUPID Being an idiot is part of his character, it takes him many deaths to figure out very very basic things. That's why he has the built-in RPG autosave cheat Anyone from our world would've died in his place. That's why it's unadvisable to be there. Seek a peaceful life, if you wanna survive. Or not, but have the cheat ready. The guy from Overlord is a lot more cautious about how he deals with every situation even though he is OP as hell. He still treats everything as if it could a threat. That's how a Smart MCs that got transported to another dimension would to act. Overly cautious, analyse his situation before making a move. Subaru is a clueless idiot. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:29 PM
#317
Lol what a garbage. Pretty over hyped show. It's funny how it stands above Hero no academia in ranking people really are retarded and are satisfied as long some pretty girls are in anime. So pathetic. |
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Jun 26, 2016 3:30 PM
#318
Shrimperor said: Tevens said: when the studio/author gives you a realistic character, you all dislike it and talk shit about the character. and when the studio/author gives you a flawless character, you all dislike it and talk shit about it like what happen with Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei or Sword Art online. what the fuck do you all want god dammit ?! Subaru used to be realistic. Up until the beginning of ep.12 This Ep it would've been fine if he didn't go full ''I am a knight'' and then badmouth them all. And if he didn't go full ''YOU OWE ME'' to EMF. She owes him nothing. He's like that "nice guy" that plays a friendly role and takes a woman out to dinner a few times and pays then demands she have sex with him in return. He didn't take her out to date her or enjoy her company he did it as a means to an end. She really doesn't own him but he feels like she does because that's why he did it. If you notice he was more offended by their attacks on her then she was. That's because his ego and sense of self importance is latched to her status so when they attack her they attack him. In the end he can only be as important as her status allows him to be. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:31 PM
#319
johnyjohny said: Lol what a garbage. Pretty over hyped show. It's funny how it stands above Hero no academia in ranking people really are retarded and are satisfied as long some pretty girls are in anime. So pathetic. The whole point of the show is some guy having a crush on a pretty girl that happened to save him once from weakling in another timeline and spends the rest of the show trying to win her approval. This is just the chapter where he fails epicly at doing it cause his ego got in the way. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:31 PM
#320
Idiotproofninja said: Subxaero said: I Rarely comment on forums but If this is not the most overrated anime the last 4-5 years. I HONESTLY dont know which it is. Plots holes everyhwere, 0 explanation. and propably the most dumb and annoying MC ever. At this point it is like the writer has made the MC so fucking stupid so he can serve his plot whenever and however he wants.I Honestly try to find something apealling(since so many like it) and apart from the first 2 episodes that were QUITE interesting and set a plot and a direction.SInce then the anime and the story is all over the place. He fucking dies every couple of days and his constant issue is how he will help EMilia(after ofc pouring those mmorpg jokes) instead of trying to figure what is going on and also give us a hint about what the fuck is going on in generall we are in the 13th episode. Maybe bother and spent some time on your curse, MAYBE? I am done srsly His entire character is EMILIA>EVERYTHING ON THE PLANET cause she saved me once from weak robbers that I could easily figure out how to beat by dying and trying again. Now you're being idiotic. It isn't that simple. Shrimperor said: Tevens said: when the studio/author gives you a realistic character, you all dislike it and talk shit about the character. and when the studio/author gives you a flawless character, you all dislike it and talk shit about it like what happen with Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei or Sword Art online. what the fuck do you all want god dammit ?! Subaru used to be realistic. Up until the beginning of last ep. Idiotproofninja said: Technically he was never realistic, he has a crush on a version of Emilia from another timeline. This girl from this timeline never saved him. Fail try. That's not how it works. Idiotproofninja said: This girl from this timeline never saved him. He likes to do stupid shit for people and get himself into weird situations even though he's weaksauce. This episode just proves he can be cringey while trying to impress a girl and failing cause he's weaksauce. He failed because he tried to pass himself as a knight, being a peasant. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:33 PM
#321
Idiotproofninja said: iRels said: Idiotproofninja said: The_Cube5671 said: I'm not sure what to think about this episode tbh. I think I would've liked to see Al's scene or something, considering how much everyone is going on about it. I really hope they keep adapting it well though, from what everyone was saying they were doing a good job of it up till now. That ending scene was good though. I wonder if Subaru really is selfish, or is trying to do this all for Emilia. I don't think we actually know enough about him - Other than HOLY FUCK HE CAN BE STUPID Being an idiot is part of his character, it takes him many deaths to figure out very very basic things. That's why he has the built-in RPG autosave cheat Anyone from our world would've died in his place. That's why it's unadvisable to be there. Seek a peaceful life, if you wanna survive. Or not, but have the cheat ready. The guy from Overlord is a lot more cautious about how he deals with every situation even though he is OP as hell. He still treats everything as if it could a threat. That's how a Smart MCs that got transported to another dimension would to act. Overly cautious, analyse his situation before making a move. Subaru is a clueless idiot. But Momonga litteraly became some OP lich in a new world where he dwarfs the most powerful persons. He lost his human emotions, the lich's passive effect protects him from fear and other bad emotions... also the guy was a working member of society who knows much more than a neet... well, even though he was kind of an otaku himself. Edit: To mod, this isn't a Overlord spoiler in case you want to delete this post... |
SirLezardJun 26, 2016 3:36 PM
Jun 26, 2016 3:33 PM
#322
Subxaero said: I Rarely comment on forums but If this is not the most overrated anime the last 4-5 years. I HONESTLY dont know which it is. Plots holes everyhwere, 0 explanation. and propably the most dumb and annoying MC ever. At this point it is like the writer has made the MC so fucking stupid so he can serve his plot whenever and however he wants.I Honestly try to find something apealling(since so many like it) and apart from the first 2 episodes that were QUITE interesting and set a plot and a direction.SInce then the anime and the story is all over the place. He fucking dies every couple of days and his constant issue is how he will help EMilia(after ofc pouring those mmorpg jokes) instead of trying to figure what is going on and also give us a hint about what the fuck is going on in generall we are in the 13th episode. Maybe bother and spent some time on your curse, MAYBE? I am done srsly I respect your opinion on not liking this show, but calling out on "Plot-holes" is retarded when the show isn't even finished, we are literally just above the halfway mark, lots of time to explain many things and even the source material is only halfway done with the story. Just drop it if you don't like it by now, and no, it's not the most overrated anime in the last 5 years because judging by your anime list, I can name many which you rated as a 7 and above which are far more overrated than this. But anyways, on topic, I really loved the ending song, I can't wait to see visuals for it, it may even be better than the first ending for me personally, I just want to hear it clean first. Also can't wait to see the major development for Subaru's character (Finally). Interested to see what's gonna be the story of this arc. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:33 PM
#323
The most cringe-worthy episode I have seen in any anime. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:35 PM
#325
Reading the comments thus far made me realize how many People misjudge Subaru in this Episode. Lets just recap, the dude died multiple times and had to start over without anyone remembering him or what happened in the timeline before. Dammit he wasnt even able to tell anyone about his "Return by Death", which makes this all the more difficult but lets let that aside for a Moment. Can you guys comprehend in the slightest how dying many times over and over and over again fucks up your mind ? Getting his belly cut open, getting smashed to death, getting cursed, i hope you get the Point, this outbursts of his is understandable it´s absolute human one might say. Now think you were in his shoes dying over and over again cruel deaths just to make everyones life happy and you get nothing in return, no thanks but instead the woman you like doesnt even remember a Thing due to the different timelines and cuts ties with you. Hell say what you want but everyone would have a meltdown in this Situation. |
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Jun 26, 2016 3:35 PM
#326
SimplyKairi said: I'm truly impressed by the characterization is this show! Also we need Emilia back story asap! I just can't shake the feeling between her and this witch Satella. Also it seems they went a bit off script from the manga but nothing game breaking.. still would've been nice to see Emilia and Puck put that council in their place You trolling right now arent u? |
Jun 26, 2016 3:35 PM
#327
Tony_SansNom said: Idiotproofninja said: iRels said: Idiotproofninja said: The_Cube5671 said: I'm not sure what to think about this episode tbh. I think I would've liked to see Al's scene or something, considering how much everyone is going on about it. I really hope they keep adapting it well though, from what everyone was saying they were doing a good job of it up till now. That ending scene was good though. I wonder if Subaru really is selfish, or is trying to do this all for Emilia. I don't think we actually know enough about him - Other than HOLY FUCK HE CAN BE STUPID Being an idiot is part of his character, it takes him many deaths to figure out very very basic things. That's why he has the built-in RPG autosave cheat Anyone from our world would've died in his place. That's why it's unadvisable to be there. Seek a peaceful life, if you wanna survive. Or not, but have the cheat ready. The guy from Overlord is a lot more cautious about how he deals with every situation even though he is OP as hell. He still treats everything as if it could a threat. That's how a Smart MCs that got transported to another dimension would to act. Overly cautious, analyse his situation before making a move. Subaru is a clueless idiot. But Momonga litteraly became some OP lich in a new world where he dwarfs the most powerful persons. He lost his human emotions, the lich's passive effect protects him from fear and other bad emotions... also the guy was a working member of society who knows much more than a neet... well, even though he was kind of a otaku himself. He can still get horny. Like Subaru. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:36 PM
#328
johnyjohny said: Lol what a garbage. Pretty over hyped show. It's funny how it stands above Hero no academia in ranking people really are retarded and are satisfied as long some pretty girls are in anime. So pathetic. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wouldn't be wrong, if were true. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:36 PM
#329
I feel for Subaru, but he's kind of too tactless. That would basically be like standing in front of actual people in an army, and then calling yourself a "soldier" brazenly. Plus, Emelia told him a thousand times not to do anything, and he didn't listen and broke his promise. |
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Jun 26, 2016 3:37 PM
#330
Idiotproofninja said: Dude if the main thing about the story is just hitting on some cute girl it is just a bad harem anime. I don't score the anime that low. But still pretty disappointing considering the high score. Many things are not really new or especially good directed. I seriously get the feeling that both the original work and the anime does not realize what good of a potential they have.johnyjohny said: Lol what a garbage. Pretty over hyped show. It's funny how it stands above Hero no academia in ranking people really are retarded and are satisfied as long some pretty girls are in anime. So pathetic. The whole point of the show is some guy having a crush on a pretty girl that happened to save him once from weakling in another timeline and spends the rest of the show trying to win her approval. This is just the chapter where he fails epicly at doing it cause his ego got in the way. |
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Jun 26, 2016 3:37 PM
#331
CorvusDruyaga said: Nobody made him do any of that stuff. It was the path he chose. After the first death and reset he could have cut all ties.Reading the comments thus far made me realize how many People misjudge Subaru in this Episode. Lets just recap, the dude died multiple times and had to start over without anyone memorizing what happened in the timeline before. Dammit he wasnt even able to tell anyone about his "Return by Death", which makes this all the more difficult but lets let that aside for a Moment. Can you guys comprehend in the slightest how dying many times over and over and over again fucks up your mind ? Getting his belly cut open, getting smashed to death, getting cursed, i hope you get the Point, this outbursts of his is understandable it´s absolute human one might say. Now think you were in his shoes dying over and over again cruel deaths just to make everyones life happy and you get nothing in return, no thanks but instead the woman you like doesnt even remember a Thing due to the different timelines and cuts ties with you. Hell say what you want but everyone would have a meltdown in this Situation. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:37 PM
#332
Subxaero said: SimplyKairi said: I'm truly impressed by the characterization is this show! Also we need Emilia back story asap! I just can't shake the feeling between her and this witch Satella. Also it seems they went a bit off script from the manga but nothing game breaking.. still would've been nice to see Emilia and Puck put that council in their place You trolling right now arent u? We get it , you don't like the show, I'm personally meh. But it's ok if other people like what you don't find enjoyable. Accept it and move on. stone616 said: CorvusDruyaga said: Nobody made him do any of that stuff. It was the path he chose. After the first death and reset he could have cut all ties.Reading the comments thus far made me realize how many People misjudge Subaru in this Episode. Lets just recap, the dude died multiple times and had to start over without anyone memorizing what happened in the timeline before. Dammit he wasnt even able to tell anyone about his "Return by Death", which makes this all the more difficult but lets let that aside for a Moment. Can you guys comprehend in the slightest how dying many times over and over and over again fucks up your mind ? Getting his belly cut open, getting smashed to death, getting cursed, i hope you get the Point, this outbursts of his is understandable it´s absolute human one might say. Now think you were in his shoes dying over and over again cruel deaths just to make everyones life happy and you get nothing in return, no thanks but instead the woman you like doesnt even remember a Thing due to the different timelines and cuts ties with you. Hell say what you want but everyone would have a meltdown in this Situation. That's why I said his entire character is having a crush on Emilia from another timeline and trying to impress her and win her approval. That and being weak as hell. He doesn't use logic to guide his actions so he will die and respawn like a guy in Dark Souls that just keeps swinging at Bosses until he figures out where the dodge button is. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:39 PM
#333
This drama is lameeeeeeee Subaru has no shame/respect for himself. He upstages an important meeting, and looks like an absolute dbag in front of everyone, which makes Emilia look bad too. He's a damn embarrassment plain and simple. Sure i understand he is frustrated that Emilia doesn't know where he is coming from but saying those things at the end just makes it even worse for himself especially when he knows full well that he can't say those magic words. It just made him look like a creep with ulterior motives, and it's not like she isn't appreciative of what he has done for her (at least what she remembers). Attending the event was one thing, but there was no need for him to make such a cringey scene, which would have saved him a lot of grief. |
zzzeallyJun 26, 2016 3:44 PM
Jun 26, 2016 3:39 PM
#334
stone616 said: Shrimperor said: Tevens said: when the studio/author gives you a realistic character, you all dislike it and talk shit about the character. and when the studio/author gives you a flawless character, you all dislike it and talk shit about it like what happen with Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei or Sword Art online. what the fuck do you all want god dammit ?! Subaru used to be realistic. Up until the beginning of ep.12 This Ep it would've been fine if he didn't go full ''I am a knight'' and then badmouth them all. And if he didn't go full ''YOU OWE ME'' to EMF. She owes him nothing. He's like that "nice guy" that plays a friendly role and takes a woman out to dinner a few times and pays then demands she have sex with him in return. He didn't take her out to date her or enjoy her company he did it as a means to an end. She really doesn't own him but he feels like she does because that's why he did it. If you notice he was more offended by their attacks on her then she was. That's because his ego and sense of self importance is latched to her status so when they attack her they attack him. In the end he can only be as important as her status allows him to be. I have no problems with him defending her. I have more problems with what happened after. And how this Natsuki isn't the same Barusu from the first 11 episodes. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:40 PM
#335
stone616 said: CorvusDruyaga said: Nobody made him do any of that stuff. It was the path he chose. After the first death and reset he could have cut all ties.Reading the comments thus far made me realize how many People misjudge Subaru in this Episode. Lets just recap, the dude died multiple times and had to start over without anyone memorizing what happened in the timeline before. Dammit he wasnt even able to tell anyone about his "Return by Death", which makes this all the more difficult but lets let that aside for a Moment. Can you guys comprehend in the slightest how dying many times over and over and over again fucks up your mind ? Getting his belly cut open, getting smashed to death, getting cursed, i hope you get the Point, this outbursts of his is understandable it´s absolute human one might say. Now think you were in his shoes dying over and over again cruel deaths just to make everyones life happy and you get nothing in return, no thanks but instead the woman you like doesnt even remember a Thing due to the different timelines and cuts ties with you. Hell say what you want but everyone would have a meltdown in this Situation. You dont get my Point at all i´m looking at this from a psychological Point of view, yes he didnt have to do all this but well he did and getting nothing not even thanks not even remembering him come on dont tell me you would just say "Well ok fine i deserved it after i died over and over again to get treated like trash" |
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Jun 26, 2016 3:41 PM
#336
Shrimperor said: stone616 said: Shrimperor said: Tevens said: when the studio/author gives you a realistic character, you all dislike it and talk shit about the character. and when the studio/author gives you a flawless character, you all dislike it and talk shit about it like what happen with Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei or Sword Art online. what the fuck do you all want god dammit ?! Subaru used to be realistic. Up until the beginning of ep.12 This Ep it would've been fine if he didn't go full ''I am a knight'' and then badmouth them all. And if he didn't go full ''YOU OWE ME'' to EMF. She owes him nothing. He's like that "nice guy" that plays a friendly role and takes a woman out to dinner a few times and pays then demands she have sex with him in return. He didn't take her out to date her or enjoy her company he did it as a means to an end. She really doesn't own him but he feels like she does because that's why he did it. If you notice he was more offended by their attacks on her then she was. That's because his ego and sense of self importance is latched to her status so when they attack her they attack him. In the end he can only be as important as her status allows him to be. I have no problems with him defending her. I have more problem with what happened after. And how this Natsuki isn't the same Barusu from the first 11 episodes. Yes and No. We are just shown his egotistical side when it comes to loving Emilia. The Quest to win Emilia's approval is his entire character. Someone should compile how many times he says Emilia every episode. Now that he's won her approval. He's moving to the stage of I'm her man so I'll protect her. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:42 PM
#337
Shrimperor said: Tevens said: when the studio/author gives you a realistic character, you all dislike it and talk shit about the character. and when the studio/author gives you a flawless character, you all dislike it and talk shit about it like what happen with Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei or Sword Art online. what the fuck do you all want god dammit ?! Subaru used to be realistic. Up until the beginning of ep.12 This Ep it would've been fine if he didn't go full ''I am a knight'' and then badmouth them all. And if he didn't go full ''YOU OWE ME'' to EMF. She owes him nothing. Actually that is the part which i think looks very realistic. But when he self proclaimed as a knight is only depends on personality. Because he has that kind of personality he proclaimed himself as the best knight. So it depends on personality and based on his personality i think it make sense for hin to did that. And that "YOU OWE ME" thing, that part looks realistic to me cause that is what i would do if i was in that kind of situation like subaru. He got despressed cause he can't everything, can't tell everything, moreover, emilia lose her trust towards subaru, and subaru thinks emilia just betrayed him(though actually in other way, he betrayed emilia) or something like that for losing her trust towards him afterall what he did to saved emilia |
Jun 26, 2016 3:42 PM
#338
AnimeMagnitude said: Subxaero said: I Rarely comment on forums but If this is not the most overrated anime the last 4-5 years. I HONESTLY dont know which it is. Plots holes everyhwere, 0 explanation. and propably the most dumb and annoying MC ever. At this point it is like the writer has made the MC so fucking stupid so he can serve his plot whenever and however he wants.I Honestly try to find something apealling(since so many like it) and apart from the first 2 episodes that were QUITE interesting and set a plot and a direction.SInce then the anime and the story is all over the place. He fucking dies every couple of days and his constant issue is how he will help EMilia(after ofc pouring those mmorpg jokes) instead of trying to figure what is going on and also give us a hint about what the fuck is going on in generall we are in the 13th episode. Maybe bother and spent some time on your curse, MAYBE? I am done srsly I respect your opinion on not liking this show, but calling out on "Plot-holes" is retarded when the show isn't even finished, we are literally just above the halfway mark, lots of time to explain many things and even the source material is only halfway done with the story. Just drop it if you don't like it by now, and no, it's not the most overrated anime in the last 5 years because judging by your anime list, I can name many which you rated as a 7 and above which are far more overrated than this. But anyways, on topic, I really loved the ending song, I can't wait to see visuals for it, it may even be better than the first ending for me personally, I just want to hear it clean first. Also can't wait to see the major development for Subaru's character (Finally). Interested to see what's gonna be the story of this arc. Anime is a ''plot hole'' itself story is all over the place , havent read the manga, but the first 2-3 episodes were very solid,they should have kept the anime going from there, |
Jun 26, 2016 3:45 PM
#339
Subxaero said: AnimeMagnitude said: Subxaero said: I Rarely comment on forums but If this is not the most overrated anime the last 4-5 years. I HONESTLY dont know which it is. Plots holes everyhwere, 0 explanation. and propably the most dumb and annoying MC ever. At this point it is like the writer has made the MC so fucking stupid so he can serve his plot whenever and however he wants.I Honestly try to find something apealling(since so many like it) and apart from the first 2 episodes that were QUITE interesting and set a plot and a direction.SInce then the anime and the story is all over the place. He fucking dies every couple of days and his constant issue is how he will help EMilia(after ofc pouring those mmorpg jokes) instead of trying to figure what is going on and also give us a hint about what the fuck is going on in generall we are in the 13th episode. Maybe bother and spent some time on your curse, MAYBE? I am done srsly I respect your opinion on not liking this show, but calling out on "Plot-holes" is retarded when the show isn't even finished, we are literally just above the halfway mark, lots of time to explain many things and even the source material is only halfway done with the story. Just drop it if you don't like it by now, and no, it's not the most overrated anime in the last 5 years because judging by your anime list, I can name many which you rated as a 7 and above which are far more overrated than this. But anyways, on topic, I really loved the ending song, I can't wait to see visuals for it, it may even be better than the first ending for me personally, I just want to hear it clean first. Also can't wait to see the major development for Subaru's character (Finally). Interested to see what's gonna be the story of this arc. Anime is a ''plot hole'' itself story is all over the place , havent read the manga, but the first 2-3 episodes were very solid,they should have kept the anime going from there, If your complaint was that he doesn't go after figuring out the curse and everything rewatch the episodes and count how many times he says Emilia. His entire character is I love that chick. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:45 PM
#340
Bit mixed feelings on this tbh. I mean the writer has already proven earlier in the show that he can invoke some really intense and emotional scenes in numerous different scenarios for the show, but this time it felt a little bit overdone. Like not really forced per se, but just a bit awkward to watch. It went from just being drama to full melodrama. Probably my least favorite episode thus far (though still perfectly passable) |
Jun 26, 2016 3:45 PM
#341
Subxaero said: SimplyKairi said: I'm truly impressed by the characterization is this show! Also we need Emilia back story asap! I just can't shake the feeling between her and this witch Satella. Also it seems they went a bit off script from the manga but nothing game breaking.. still would've been nice to see Emilia and Puck put that council in their place You trolling right now arent u? Don't like the show yet you're still watching and complaining. So tell me are you trolling? Or you generally don't comprehend the concept of Re:Zero? |
Jun 26, 2016 3:46 PM
#343
Subxaero said: AnimeMagnitude said: Subxaero said: I Rarely comment on forums but If this is not the most overrated anime the last 4-5 years. I HONESTLY dont know which it is. Plots holes everyhwere, 0 explanation. and propably the most dumb and annoying MC ever. At this point it is like the writer has made the MC so fucking stupid so he can serve his plot whenever and however he wants.I Honestly try to find something apealling(since so many like it) and apart from the first 2 episodes that were QUITE interesting and set a plot and a direction.SInce then the anime and the story is all over the place. He fucking dies every couple of days and his constant issue is how he will help EMilia(after ofc pouring those mmorpg jokes) instead of trying to figure what is going on and also give us a hint about what the fuck is going on in generall we are in the 13th episode. Maybe bother and spent some time on your curse, MAYBE? I am done srsly I respect your opinion on not liking this show, but calling out on "Plot-holes" is retarded when the show isn't even finished, we are literally just above the halfway mark, lots of time to explain many things and even the source material is only halfway done with the story. Just drop it if you don't like it by now, and no, it's not the most overrated anime in the last 5 years because judging by your anime list, I can name many which you rated as a 7 and above which are far more overrated than this. But anyways, on topic, I really loved the ending song, I can't wait to see visuals for it, it may even be better than the first ending for me personally, I just want to hear it clean first. Also can't wait to see the major development for Subaru's character (Finally). Interested to see what's gonna be the story of this arc. Anime is a ''plot hole'' itself story is all over the place , havent read the manga, but the first 2-3 episodes were very solid,they should have kept the anime going from there, What plot hole ? Please explain ! The story still about Subaru's life in different world trying get his first love. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:48 PM
#344
CorvusDruyaga said: Reading the comments thus far made me realize how many People misjudge Subaru in this Episode. Lets just recap, the dude died multiple times and had to start over without anyone remembering him or what happened in the timeline before. Dammit he wasnt even able to tell anyone about his "Return by Death", which makes this all the more difficult but lets let that aside for a Moment. Can you guys comprehend in the slightest how dying many times over and over and over again fucks up your mind ? Getting his belly cut open, getting smashed to death, getting cursed, i hope you get the Point, this outbursts of his is understandable it´s absolute human one might say. Now think you were in his shoes dying over and over again cruel deaths just to make everyones life happy and you get nothing in return, no thanks but instead the woman you like doesnt even remember a Thing due to the different timelines and cuts ties with you. Hell say what you want but everyone would have a meltdown in this Situation. i'm pretty sure the majority of people can empathize with subaru since the whole story's pretty much told from his perspective, but the world doesn't revolve around him. when he does shitty things, it's going to affect those around him, and those people are going to react to it. subaru's actions are justified from subaru's point of view, but emilia's actions are also justified from HER point of view. subaru isn't the only person who has motivations. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:48 PM
#345
SimplyKairi said: He is right tho. Characterization is really nothing special.Subxaero said: SimplyKairi said: I'm truly impressed by the characterization is this show! Also we need Emilia back story asap! I just can't shake the feeling between her and this witch Satella. Also it seems they went a bit off script from the manga but nothing game breaking.. still would've been nice to see Emilia and Puck put that council in their place You trolling right now arent u? Don't like the show yet you're still watching and complaining. So tell me are you trolling? Or you generally don't comprehend the concept of Re:Zero? |
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Jun 26, 2016 3:49 PM
#346
Subxaero said: AnimeMagnitude said: Subxaero said: I Rarely comment on forums but If this is not the most overrated anime the last 4-5 years. I HONESTLY dont know which it is. Plots holes everyhwere, 0 explanation. and propably the most dumb and annoying MC ever. At this point it is like the writer has made the MC so fucking stupid so he can serve his plot whenever and however he wants.I Honestly try to find something apealling(since so many like it) and apart from the first 2 episodes that were QUITE interesting and set a plot and a direction.SInce then the anime and the story is all over the place. He fucking dies every couple of days and his constant issue is how he will help EMilia(after ofc pouring those mmorpg jokes) instead of trying to figure what is going on and also give us a hint about what the fuck is going on in generall we are in the 13th episode. Maybe bother and spent some time on your curse, MAYBE? I am done srsly I respect your opinion on not liking this show, but calling out on "Plot-holes" is retarded when the show isn't even finished, we are literally just above the halfway mark, lots of time to explain many things and even the source material is only halfway done with the story. Just drop it if you don't like it by now, and no, it's not the most overrated anime in the last 5 years because judging by your anime list, I can name many which you rated as a 7 and above which are far more overrated than this. But anyways, on topic, I really loved the ending song, I can't wait to see visuals for it, it may even be better than the first ending for me personally, I just want to hear it clean first. Also can't wait to see the major development for Subaru's character (Finally). Interested to see what's gonna be the story of this arc. Anime is a ''plot hole'' itself story is all over the place , havent read the manga, but the first 2-3 episodes were very solid,they should have kept the anime going from there, No, I disagree, the anime isn't a plot hole and the story isn't all over the place. Can you explain why you think the story is all over the place? Because to me, it's going solid 1 arc at a time, introducing characters to us, building them. Sure, I don't think that much has happened in 13 episodes, but I generally think it's a very well directed anime, with an amazing story and a great cast of characters except for Subaru of course, but I think he'll become a better character sooner than I think. I think what you are unhappy about is that they don't explain anything. But just hear me out, this is a huge story, I've heard the web novel has like 30 volumes and is only halfway done. So it only makes sense to NOT reveal everything in the begin. Where's the fun in that? I'm sure in time they'll answer many of our questions, but until then you can't say there's plot holes. |
Jun 26, 2016 3:49 PM
#348
Jun 26, 2016 3:51 PM
#349
Tevens said: Yea I don't blame you. Facts are hard to accept. Better get out of here fast.I can only see people insulting this anime just because the mc being stupidly cringe in this episode so....i'm out of this thread. Looks like many people doesn't give a fuck with the plot development, characterization and the plot development anymore.....so im out. |
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Jun 26, 2016 3:52 PM
#350
Tevens said: I can only see people insulting this anime just because the mc being stupidly cringe in this episode so....i'm out of this thread. Looks like many people doesn't give a fuck with the plot development, characterization and the plot development anymore.....so im out. His character is I love Emilia and his development is She doesn't like it when I become egotistical sometimes and get involved in her shtick. Am I missing something? |
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