Rokka: Braves of the Six Flowers (light novel)
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juicykitten95 said: Tevens said: WHY EVERYONE EXCEPT ADELT , FLAMIE AND HANS WAS FUCKING STUPID? In this episode : MAURA WAS THE SEVENT BRAVE (i guess) THE PRINCESS HAS GONE MAD AND IN THE HALF WAY FLAMIE WAS FUCKING STUPID. This series only airing 12 episode , but now , episode 10 , they still fighting each other like a fool. When will they fight the Demon God? Will there be a second season ? demon god is not important since he is just a part of the sub plot so what is the meaning of this story, then? seriously , i'm getting confuse right now |
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Tevens said: juicykitten95 said: demon god is not important since he is just a part of the sub plot so what is the meaning of this story, then? seriously , i'm getting confuse right now Muster your brain power. I'm rooting for you. |
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| While animation wasn't great, I was able to completely ignore that. Awesome episode, I am so happy with this adaptation. And a toast to the voice actors because they are doing amazing jobs! :D I think they exaggerated Adlet confessing to Flamie a bit, especially since they changed it from "I care about you" to "I love you", but whatever. I am so excited to see the reveal of the seventh animated OuO |
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| None of the character are stupid~. And they're all fighting with their life on the line here, as well as the whole humanity on the line. Of course they're fighting. They were trying to discuss it out and it didn't work. Also, defeating the demon god is the final goal of the story. The demon god is currently recovering the sealed strength, so the longer the heroes take before reaching the demon god, the best it is for the opposite side. The highest the number of heroes dying quickly, the same. The meaning of them being trapped is exactly that. Winning time and trying to have some of them killed before they can even start their mission. In between them and the demon god, there are full armies of fiends, who obviously don't intend to just get killed by fodders and have their own plans in motion as well. So the meaning of what you're seeing now is the "first lethal obstacle" the opposite side has prepared for them. |
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juicykitten95 said: Tevens said: WHY EVERYONE EXCEPT ADELT , FLAMIE AND HANS WAS FUCKING STUPID? In this episode : MAURA WAS THE SEVENT BRAVE (i guess) THE PRINCESS HAS GONE MAD AND IN THE HALF WAY FLAMIE WAS FUCKING STUPID. This series only airing 12 episode , but now , episode 10 , they still fighting each other like a fool. When will they fight the Demon God? Will there be a second season ? demon god is not important since he is just a part of the sub plot Well, the Demon God is important actually, but unlike most anime that adapt LN, this series is going to give the full first season to the first volume. Personally I'm really happy about this because trying to squeeze two or three novels into 12 episodes completely ruins a series. So yeah, these 12 episodes are dedicated to first volume which is getting out of the barrier, and then the (likely) next season will be in the Wailing Demon Territory. |
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Zefyris said: None of the character are stupid~. And they're all fighting with their life on the line here, as well as the whole humanity on the line. Of course they're fighting. They were trying to discuss it out and it didn't work. I think you can't get to some people when MC is attacked by someone for them all is clear .. |
apokaliz500 said: Random theory: What if Hans activated it? Let's say that Lauren really works with fiends and didn't tell Braves you can actually repogram the temple when you go inside legally and use the sword? If you can reprogram it and Hans did it, that's what could happen: 1. Mora gets the key from Lauren 2 days before activation. (fact) 2. She meets with Hans day later (fact) from now what COULD happen: 3. During the night (between day earlier and today) when Mora is asleep, Hans secretly steals the key, goes to the temple, opens the door with a key, reprograms temple to activate a fog the moment someone braks the door seal, then goes and closes the door (it was Hans who said you cannot close it, and if he's the bad guy he could lie about that), goes back to Mora and put the key where it was. 4. Hans and Mora proceed to the temple the next day with Mora not being aware of anything. Except Hans is innocent, imo. See, if Lauren was a fiend in human form, he could've easily lied about the way the seal is activated. He's the one person that they all got info from, right? Hans seems pretty clean. Plus, in stories like these, the most suspicious at the start(Hans and Fremie) are the least likely to be the perpetrator. And the least likely at the start(Adlet, Nacchan, Maura) are the most likely to be the fake. Ofc, Adlet is completely out of the question, but if his theory is correct, then Nacchan and Maura could be the 7th and 8th. Tho, I'm confused how there can be an 8th when there're only 7 of them. Unless someone else is in the field? Or there was never an actual 6th brave? Maybe the 6th doesn't even know they're the 6th and hasn't arrived yet. :/ Things are too vague at this point. >.> Nacchan and Oppai Saint are still the most suspicious, tho. Gotta wonder if Nacchan has a mental condition that turns her into a yangire when things are going her way. |
mira-pyonSep 6, 2015 11:53 AM
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| God damn, this anime... I don't even know where to start. First of all, great action scenes and plot twists. I though the romance thing would happen later on in the books, but I guess it's starting to happen now. At first I was like "should have listened to Hans and kept your mouth shut", but it worked out in the end (at least between Adlet and Flamie). Starting to dislike Maura as well now, especially considering how I spoiled myself for the later volumes, so what she's doing now annoys me even more. Anyway, great episode for sure, had a bit of everything. |
KageNoAbisu said: juicykitten95 said: demon god is not important since he is just a part of the sub plot Well, the Demon God is important actually, but unlike most anime that adapt LN, this series is going to give the full first season to the first volume. Personally I'm really happy about this because trying to squeeze two or three novels into 12 episodes completely ruins a series. So yeah, these 12 episodes are dedicated to first volume which is getting out of the barrier, and then the (likely) next season will be in the Wailing Demon Territory. It depends on what the series is. The first LN of haruhi fits perfectly into 6 episodes. |
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skudoops said: I wish that this dude would stop saying he's the strongest man in the world. Is there some sort of psychological reason behind that or something? Is he saying that to reassure himself that his path is the correct one and he isn't wasting his time? I dunno.. but I wish he'd stop. He says it because it's self-amusing and he probably believes it makes him seem reliable to others. I see nothing wrong with it. You must be a really boring person if you never over-praise yourself for a comedic effect. |
sarroush said: What the fuck is going on. Why the hell is Mora acting like a grade A retard who doesn't use her brain? It's like she was told one thing and just decided to go with it without believing that there may be other explanations. If there isn't a proper explanation for her behavior, I can't believe an idiot is basically the 'leader' of the Braves. Specially when she's supposed to be my favorite character. I'm going to move back to team Fremy. Mora left me incredibly salty. Because there's a reason for everything. The only retarded character in this series is Chamot, everyone else acts like they do for "reasons". |
Tylaen said: Tevens said: so what is the meaning of this story, then? seriously , i'm getting confuse right now Muster your brain power. I'm rooting for you. Snark 10/10. You're my hero. |
thebrentinator24 said: It was cool to see Maura's abilities, and Nashetania's yandere-like mental breakdown was quite something. At this point, the 7th is definitely either Maura or Nashetania, no question. It's difficult to pinpoint exactly who it could be since both of them get more suspicious after each episode. If Nashetania didn't go batshit crazy, I definitely would have concluded that it's Maura, based on her actions and how she reacted to certain situations in this episode.......but because of what happened with Nashetania, she's still as equally suspicious (if not a little more suspicious) as Maura. Such an intense episode overall. Many say this but Maura just lied to kill Adlet. She so very keen on killing him. The question is why? Because she's the 7th does not seem like a good answer because if he gets killed it won't be "ok now we are six therefore none is fake" since the barrier has to be deactivated. If his not the 7th that won't happen and considering how she already showed how keen she was to kill him, after killing him she will make herself the first suspect of being the 7th, especially after lying like that. Therefore the only reason she could have to want to kill him so much is because she really thinks he is the 7th. And if she truly thinks that, then it means she does not see herself as the 7th. |
apokaliz500 said: mira-nyan said: Except Hans is innocent, imo. See, if Lauren was a fiend in human form, he could've easily lied about the way the seal is activated. He's the one person that they all got info from, right? Hans seems pretty clean. Plus, in stories like these, the most suspicious at the start(Hans and Fremie) are the least likely to be the perpetrator. And the least likely at the start(Adlet, Nacchan, Maura) are the most likely to be the fake. Ofc, Adlet is completely out of the question, but if his theory is correct, then Nacchan and Maura could be the 7th and 8th. Tho, I'm confused how there can be an 8th when there're only 7 of them. Unless someone else is in the field? Or there was never an actual 6th brave? Maybe the 6th doesn't even know they're the 6th and hasn't arrived yet. :/ Things are too vague at this point. >.> Nacchan and Oppai Saint are still the most suspicious, tho. Gotta wonder if Nacchan has a mental condition that turns her into a yangire when things are going her way. The thing is we need to figure out how the hell it happened that temple activated the moment Adlet blew up the door. This is imo more important than how characters behave beacuse behaviour can be an act, but logical arguments about who activated the temple can't be an act, so they're more reliable imo. If we go by what both Hans and Maura have said, specially Hans, who gave most of the info about the seals, then it shouldn't be possible to go in before the seal activates. At the moment, I'm theorising that the seal activates when the door is opened. That, or Adlet was brainwashed/memory wiped as soon as he got inside, meaning something happened and he didn't know. Ofc, the latter is unlikely. If Lauren was a fiend, then the former is definitely likely. |
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Monad said: thebrentinator24 said: It was cool to see Maura's abilities, and Nashetania's yandere-like mental breakdown was quite something. At this point, the 7th is definitely either Maura or Nashetania, no question. It's difficult to pinpoint exactly who it could be since both of them get more suspicious after each episode. If Nashetania didn't go batshit crazy, I definitely would have concluded that it's Maura, based on her actions and how she reacted to certain situations in this episode.......but because of what happened with Nashetania, she's still as equally suspicious (if not a little more suspicious) as Maura. Such an intense episode overall. Many say this but Maura just lied to kill Adlet. She so very keen on killing him. The question is why? Because she's the 7th does not seem like a good answer because if he gets killed it won't be "ok now we are six therefore none is fake" since the barrier has to be deactivated. If his not the 7th that won't happen and considering how she already showed how keen she was to kill him, after killing him she will make herself the first suspect of being the 7th, especially after lying like that. Therefore the only reason she could have to want to kill him so much is because she really thinks he is the 7th. And if she truly thinks that, then it means she does not see herself as the 7th. Meaning that it's possible that the 7th doesn't know they're the 7th. :/ With the line 'even I thought you might be genuine', it's extremely possible that 1) She does't know she's the 7th, if she is ofc 2) she has a mental condition. Like, she's said something so much to herself that even she started to believe it. Kinda like |
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apokaliz500 said: The point is that if we assume Hans is the seventh, we should assume he doesn't tell the truth. In other words, the info about seals shouldn't be treated as a fact here. mira-nyan said: Plus, in stories like these, the most suspicious at the start(Hans and Fremie) are the least likely to be the perpetrator. I'm already correct about Fremie. Hans seems legit, tho. Whether he's the 7th or not, I don't see why he'd not kill Adlet straight away. Why he insisted on helping Adlet in the fight against Chamot. Why he continuously sides with Adlet after 'the face of a dying man can't lie'. It could be that he's a great actor, or that he's genuinely like that. Plus, Hans is one of the characters that we've gotten to know. The 2 we know a lot about are already striked off the list. We know more about Hans than the other 4, so for now, he'd be the least suspicious, imo. |
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Mathias2001 said: HandsomeMan said: Because there's a reason for everything. The only retarded character in this series is Chamot, everyone else acts like they do for "reasons". Chamo is far from retarted, but than again, I am a fanboy of her so I biased. Maura may be being close-minded, but she's not a "grade A retard". And Chamot's not really retarded either - more like childish, impulsive, overconfident, and annoying. |
| Adlet, i'm a bit disappointed... |
Mathias2001 said: HandsomeMan said: God damn, this anime... I don't even know where to start. First of all, great action scenes and plot twists. I though the romance thing would happen later on in the books, but I guess it's starting to happen now. At first I was like "should have listened to Hans and kept your mouth shut", but it worked out in the end (at least between Adlet and Flamie). Starting to dislike Maura as well now, especially considering how I spoiled myself for the later volumes, so what she's doing now annoys me even more. Anyway, great episode for sure, had a bit of everything. Why, Volume 2 really made me like Mora, I mean love her. I don't understand how Vol.2 can make you hate her. I dislike her now not from volume 2, and it's because what she's doing now is . Although I wouldn't say I like her later in the series either. |
Chiyousagi said: ttcchen said: she'd already made a great accomplishment by getting one of the braves killed. after all, there are only 6 Braves fighting the demon lord and thousands of fiends. its not like you have dozens of Braves that it doesn't matter if one or two dies. the Braves can't afford to lose anyone Pretty sure that isn't true. Either that or the story has major plot hole. Fremy can kill so many saint easily, and they are all supposedly better candidate. So losing braves should be something that happen often. Not to mention if all 6 braves are required to stop the demon lord resurrection, then the demon lord would have resurrected long ago on the premises that killing off a single brave should be an easy task. Lastly, if what you propose hold any weight, the fake brave would have kill anyone/someone already given all those chances assuming the goal is to just even kill one brave. Remember Adlet thinking to himself that is the best chance for the fake to act/kill given how Mora had everyone split into pairs to locate him? But nope, whoever the fake is, obviously killing a single real brave isn't on the menu. yes, but in the end only 6 Braves get chosen and only these 6 can go defeat the demon lord. so losing even one is greatly decreasing the Braves' strength. Secondly, the demon lord doesn't resurrect whenever he/she wants to. it was said in the first episode, the demon lord awakens every few hundred years. in fact, this story takes place on his/her third time's awakening. Lastly, we don't know who the fake is, so we can't say this for sure at the moment |
apokaliz500 said: I agree that his behaviour implies he's innocent, but the biggest problem is still the temple. And that theory about Hans I made to me seems the most legit among all the theories I've read and tried to come up with myself. And we cannot completely exclude the possibility he's such a great actor. Who ever said he was a great actor? Being an assassin =/= being the best actor. It just takes blending into the background. Which can be as easy as sipping a glass of wine in a party. And what theory? |
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apokaliz500 said: Also I'd like to use this opportunity to remind everyone that in the early episodes they make a big deal of Riura the Sun Saint being missing and even Fremy, Brave-Killer, knows nothing about that. no, they didn't make a huge deal about her. she was only mentioned once or twice Gov said: Confucius said:  You are welcome. Looks like two lesbians making out. Adlet should cut his hair |
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ttcchen said: apokaliz500 said: Also I'd like to use this opportunity to remind everyone that in the early episodes they make a big deal of Riura the Sun Saint being missing and even Fremy, Brave-Killer, knows nothing about that. no, they didn't make a huge deal about her. she was only entwined once or twice Iirc, Fremie said she killed her. :/ |
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HandsomeMan said: Mathias2001 said: Why, Volume 2 really made me like Mora, I mean love her. I don't understand how Vol.2 can make you hate her. I dislike her now not from volume 2, and it's because what she's doing now is . Although I wouldn't say I like her later in the series either. I'd still recommend reading the 2nd volume though. Reading spoilers isn't, in my opinion, the best way to judge a character. |
ttcchen said: Adlet should cut his hair NOH! His hair is beautiful. D: |
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mira-nyan said: ttcchen said: no, they didn't make a huge deal about her. she was only entwined once or twice Iirc, Fremie said she killed her. :/ Fremy said that she knows nothing about her disappearance...(ep. 3) also she was mention 3/4 times (Hime,Adlet,Mora,Fremy) |
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mira-nyan said: Also, the artwork quality went down this ep. Such lol-worthy faces  I thought that picture looks pretty good Frrrosty said: I'd still recommend reading the 2nd volume though. Reading spoilers isn't, in my opinion, the best way to judge a character. I totally agree. |
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mira-nyan said: Except Hans is innocent, imo. Hans seems pretty clean. Plus, in stories like these, the most suspicious at the start(Hans and Fremie) are the least likely to be the perpetrator. And the least likely at the start(Adlet, Nacchan, Maura) are the most likely to be the fake. Ofc, Adlet is completely out of the question, but if his theory is correct, then Nacchan and Maura could be the 7th and 8th. Tho, I'm confused how there can be an 8th when there're only 7 of them. Unless someone else is in the field? Or there was never an actual 6th brave? Maybe the 6th doesn't even know they're the 6th and hasn't arrived yet. :/ I disagree with nearly everything you had just said. "Hans is innocent." How do you know? Do you have evidence to back up your claim? "Hans seems pretty clean." you even said it yourself, he seems clean "Plus, in stories like these, the most suspicious at the start(Hans and Fremie) are the least likely to be the perpetrator." have you not learned from the past episodes that the author of this story doesn't do cliche plots? Instead of writing a simple hero fight demon lord story, he turned it into a mystery. instead of Adlet falling for the first girl that showed up, he fell for a cold killer. instead of a cute loli, he gave the loli puking power. You should have realized by now that you shouldn't judge this story based on what "stories like these" are like. "Ofc, Adlet is completely out of the question" again, you are judging this story based on "stories like these". If this author doesn't write cliche plot, then it's not completely impossible he won't make a unexpected twist and make Adlet the seventh, brainwash or whatever. so Adlet isn't out of the question yet. Lastly, the eighth doesn't mean an eighth person. Adlet had explained it already. The eighth is the person who helps activate the barrier, not a literal eighth person. |
ramenystSep 6, 2015 2:02 PM
| That confession tho... So now we are down to 2 people that are likely be the fake. 1. Mora, she want to kill Adlet so bad and even lie about Hans getting hurt. Did not listen to reason and just label Adlet as the fake. 2. Nashetania, she is still super suspicious and just suddenly attack Adlet after hearing Mora announcement. This must be a reason of her plan if she is the fake so that she can kill Adlet which is one of the 6 heroes. So now...Adlet have Fremy and Hans? on his side...I really hate Mora for being such an asshole character haha. |
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darboux said: Well will the reasons you say be explained in the series? or the show gonna just end ''look the 7th is this one go read the ln'' Hope at least we get some backround as the series reaches the end why Maura/Nashetania act like this and some other stuff. I think this show should have been at least 24 episodes or hope it gets more seasons. you will see the reason if this show gets a second season. or just go read the LN, it's worth it. |
| Best episode yet and the fact that the animation was meh had absolutely no impact on how much I enjoyed it. Adlet's decision at the end not to escape baffled me, though. Did he really think surrendering would allow him to survive or was he just that confident about Flamie turning to his side? He doesn't really strike me as the type to accept death without trying everything and at that point he wasn't even backed into a corner that much, or at least not any more than he has been since episode 5. |
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ttcchen said: whatever worth or not everyone should make own decision i first finish regios than maybe Rokka .. it's funny that last two episodes make people belevie that Mora is 7 when for me chances for that drop to 0 % it's Hime/Goldov or Hans in my opinion ..darboux said: Well will the reasons you say be explained in the series? or the show gonna just end ''look the 7th is this one go read the ln'' Hope at least we get some backround as the series reaches the end why Maura/Nashetania act like this and some other stuff. I think this show should have been at least 24 episodes or hope it gets more seasons. you will see the reason if this show gets a second season. or just go read the LN, it's worth it. |
Zos said: This series is really amazing and captivating but seeing how annoying some of these characters are, makes it so exhausting to watch... That Maura lying, bossing around, just giving the orders to kill, etc. That Chamo being an overconfident brat. Thet princess just believing some random shit. And finally - that Goldov being useless, easily forgotten character which you would hope to bring some god damn reasoning into the show, but nope - jealousy. I can't remember when was the last time an anime could piss me off like this one... and still make me want to see more. Given how well written this is, I gave these characters the benefit of the doubt, even if some of them annoyed me. Now that I've read ahead, just about every complaint you have has a mostly deep-rooted, logical reason behind their (sometimes illogical) behaviors; not because they're aloof and/or temperamental potatoes. |
Dangerr said: Zos said: This series is really amazing and captivating but seeing how annoying some of these characters are, makes it so exhausting to watch... That Maura lying, bossing around, just giving the orders to kill, etc. That Chamo being an overconfident brat. Thet princess just believing some random shit. And finally - that Goldov being useless, easily forgotten character which you would hope to bring some god damn reasoning into the show, but nope - jealousy. I can't remember when was the last time an anime could piss me off like this one... and still make me want to see more. Given how well written this was, I gave these characters the benefit of the doubt, even if some of them annoyed me. Now that I've read ahead, just about every complaint you have has a mostly deep-rooted, logical reason behind their behaviors; not because they're aloof and/or temperamental potatoes. Unfortunately, we might not see the reasoning for their behaviors, considering the anime has only 2 episodes left. And not everyone will be reading the source material after the anime ends; so the "rooted hate" will persist nonetheless. |
HandsomeMan said: As much as I would love to see a second season (I really want to see vol. 2 animated), the lack of BD sales in Japan is troubling. It doesn't happen often, but I really hope international revenues / merch sales make it possible.Dangerr said: Given how well written this was, I gave these characters the benefit of the doubt, even if some of them annoyed me. Now that I've read ahead, just about every complaint you have has a mostly deep-rooted, logical reason behind their behaviors; not because they're aloof and/or temperamental potatoes. Unfortunately, we might not see the reasoning for their behaviors, considering the anime has only 2 episodes left. And not everyone will be reading the source material after the anime ends; so the "rooted hate" will persist nonetheless. |
darboux said: No I can't prove it wrong. because I can't, it's possible. who knows? just patiently wait for the truth to be revealed. the point of my post is to let you guys know to don't judge things too quickly based on other cliche stories. only think of a character as innocent when you have evidence |
darboux said: Sorry but i dont think a writter would be that bad to make his first volume LN based completely on mystery only to be solved with an ***pull..... You'd be surprised how often that happens. I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of Volume 10 Adlet wakes up and realises it was all a dream. Then he makes coffee and goes to his job. He is a fresh banking intern in New York City after all, gotta give it your best! Oh, and he also has a date this afternoon with this girl who likes to dye her hair white and wear an eye-patch sometimes. The end. |
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